Fox News is asking for us to submit evidence of media bias

[swissaustrian]

USE examples of OTHER news outlets (CNN, MSNBC etc.)
Found this at the dailypaul:

They just spent an hour talking about media bias and ended with asking viewers to submit any evidence they have

Newswatch@foxnews.com

Not kidding.

They talked a lot on the show about Romney fumbling the States and Constitutional question from the last debate when he had to refer to Dr Paul. Was it a 'gotcha' question and so on.

Where do we start?

http://www.dailypaul.com/204330/foxnews-is-asking-for-us-to-submit-evidence-of-media-bias

[The One]

Title could have read "FoxNews asks us to do their job for them".

[Dr.3D]

I dunno, point them to Jon Stewart? Seems he has a lot of evidence.

[Shelton88]

Lets search people. Maybe they will actually redeem themselves.

[Varin]

Bee smart pick on CNN, MSNBC firstly not FOX. Use stuff that is easy to prove with numbers such as the "unelectable" label and the general election polling.

[brandon]

Just ignore them

[LibertyEagle]

I dunno, point them to Jon Stewart? Seems he has a lot of evidence.

That certainly would be the quickest thing to do.

[Ronulus]

Use the picture of the poll in NH or SC that excluded Ron Paul but had all the other candidates.

[Travlyr]

Just tell them to watch Fox News while being objective.

[Dr.3D]

Heck, we could even show them some stuff from 2007.

[KramerDSP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNnmZuPBSPM

[neverseen]

sounds like they want us to spend hours of our time not calling or doing local activism. Sounds like a distraction. Sounds like they need to be ignored.

[rp2012win]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLgWqiGjzyw&context=C3f96295ADOEgsToPDskJv49Tio8P8TT3xo_3Ul0rC

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Just tell them to watch Fox News while being objective.
Just tell them to watch television

[Steve-in-NY]

Ignore that request. Simply call it out every time on Twitter #theronpaulgame

[musicmax]

Use the picture of the poll in NH or SC that excluded Ron Paul but had all the other candidates.

+1. And the 12 minute CBS piece prior to NH that talked about every candidate except Paul. And most of the post-debate talking-head stuff that ignores Paul.

Not sure how to best portray the manufactured Santorum and Huntsman surges.

[Travlyr]

A "Black This Out" money bomb would have been a total failure if media bias weren't real.

[rp2012win]

Not sure how to best portray the manufactured Santorum and Huntsman surges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtDSSRFP_k&context=C3076a80ADOEgsToPDskL-a6-2EHjjzR8jkDKntK5p

I've got the santorum surge covered. CNN claimed Santorum was 2nd in their own poll for several days straight. Had graphics saying he was 2nd and Joe Johns said he was 2nd.

[lakefx]

There should be a tube of this!

Ames straw poll results/coverage.

Lets see, any time Dana Bash opens her mouth. 100 separate times of her asking about a 3rd party run.

Any clips from Jon Stewart. 'Forget about that Ron Paul stuff, if you see Michelle....' or ' If you take Ron Paul out, Jon Hunstman is the real 3rd.' etc.

any time 'dangerous' is used. etc.

[vechorik]

Ask Fox News to reveal their stats re: Ron Paul SEPARATELY from Fox BUSINESS News.

We all know they combine the good coverage of Fox Business News (Napolitano) with their very anti-Paul Fox News coverage (with MANY more viewers).

I'd like to hear the Fox News ONLY stats -- it would be embarrassing to them.
Fox News (only) pro-Paul and anti-Paul statements.

[EaSy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP_7ePK773Q&feature=related

[Indifference]

How about CNN shutting out the soldier? Or Fox News giving Ron those stupid interviews, such as the one with the blonde "newscaster"?

[Tyler_Durden]

Here's a good one. When Santorum jumped from 5% to 16% in Iowa (Dec 27-28??), it EXPLODED!!!

When Dr. Paul jumped from 9% to 20% a few days ago with ARG, the story was how Newt is gaining on Mitt. Dr. Paul barely received a footnote.....

[MsDoodahs]

Ignore that request. Simply call it out every time on Twitter #theronpaulgame

I think this is the best response.

[Revolution9]

Give them competitors to bash. Then when they start either the other #presscorpse will strike back at them or we got them by their short and curlies when they pull their shenanigans.

Rev9

[Elwar]

Ron Paul forums: Media Spin

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?305-Media-Spin

A few bits...

http://i.imgur.com/Koq19.png

"Rick Perry is the only candidate in the race with military experience"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=atQ4Oy5DLsk

The John Stewart segment:
http://gawker.com/5831167/

News reference via google trends
http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=ron+paul,+mitt+romney&date=2011&geo=us&graph=weekly_img&sort=0&sa=N

Pew Research:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/299617_10150270502483207_79085878206_7961888_51089 91_n.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7924/cnnbias.png

Replace Ron Paul's picture when he is at third with Bachmann: (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?313924-Calling-ABC-News-Out-on-EPIC-Bias-CHECK-THIS-OUT)
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8767/mediaa.png

More here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?269649-Start-documenting-media-bias-against-RP-in-this-thread-NOW

[IDefendThePlatform]

I'm sending them an email highlighting their own biases. As much as CNN and the others suck, foxnews has the majority of republican primary voters and they're the ones who need to be called out the most. Yes I know they probably won't air stuff exposing themselves. When I'm done I'll forward it to the other networks so they can use it against fox.

[kusok]

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9419-study-confirms-ron-paul-blacked-out-by-media

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9nOIusbDwI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29CyBGlmBE

[pacelli]

Have them hire ben swann to provide political coverage on FOXNEWS, not fox business.

[speciallyblend]

I'm sending them an email highlighting their own biases. As much as CNN and the others suck, foxnews has the majority of republican primary voters and they're the ones who need to be called out the most. Yes I know they probably won't air stuff exposing themselves. When I'm done I'll forward it to the other networks so they can use it against fox.

i sent an email but can you post what ever you send?

[OrbitzXT]

I would show them anything said by Lawrence O'Donnell from MSNBC. He's said some of the harshest things about Ron Paul's campaign I've heard. He's flat out called Ron Paul a fraud, saying that Huntsman was the true 2nd place finisher in NH and that Ron Paul doesn't count. Here's the link. (http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7iLT9hJPqzIAGoVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1ajNoODM 4BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA01TWTAwNF8xN zE-/SIG=1203eisut/EXP=1326671699/**http%3a//www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=hP_7ePK773Q) There's plenty more ammo but I thought considering the network it came from and the statement itself, that it'd be good to use.

[IDefendThePlatform]

i sent an email but can you post what ever you send?

Sure thing my friend:


Foxnews needs to look in the mirror if they’re interested in seeing examples of media bias. Their treatment of Ron Paul this election has been atrocious. Just a few examples:


- hit piece by the Doocy kid on racist newsletters with zero mention of the fact that the head of the Austin, TX NAACP has been defending Ron Paul for 20 years. He states that Ron Paul is not a racist and that more people should listen to him. Also, no mention of how Ron Paul polls better with minorities than all the other GOP candidates. “Fair and Balanced?” Here are some links for next time (because we all know you hacks will bring this up again if Ron does well in South Carolina or others):
http://ronpaulflix.com/category/racism/ (http://ronpaulflix.com/category/racism/)

-number of times a Foxnews host or anchor says “Ron Paul can’t win..” “Concerns about electability...” “Won’t win a single primary...” “Not top tier...” and look at where he is now? 2nd place overall and surging in South Carolina, even IN SPITE OF YOUR BIASED COVERAGE. O’Reilly admitted the other day he didn’t like Ron Paul because “He engages in too many personal attacks”, which is complete bullshit but at least its just an opinion. Hannity, Huckabee, Bill Kristol, Steve Deace, O’Reilly, Hume, Krauthammer, Dick Morris all routinely do everything they can to downplay and discredit his poll numbers. Here’s one pathetic example from “Senior Political Analyst” Brit Hume:
http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2012/01/fox-host-says-rupaul-is-a-more-likely-gop-candidate-than-ron-paul/ (http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2012/01/fox-host-says-rupaul-is-a-more-likely-gop-candidate-than-ron-paul/)

Not news?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fLgWqiGjzyw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fLgWqiGjzyw)

Why not let the voters decide?
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/08/krauthammer-ron-paul-is-not-going-to-be-president-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/08/krauthammer-ron-paul-is-not-going-to-be-president-video/)

This is just pathetic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=VAVM_IZolkA#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=VAVM_IZolkA#t=0s)

More hit pieces, notably lacking in fairness and balance:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1353161979001/ron-pauls-iran-policy (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1353161979001/ron-pauls-iran-policy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YwRVUclo19A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YwRVUclo19A)


If any other GOP candidate had such a monstrous advantage in military donations it would be headline news. Somehow Ron Paul getting 2x as much active duty military $$$ as all the other Republicans combined doesn’t get discussed much, and when it does it’s “surprising”.

You should know that I was actually a Foxnews fan in the late 90s and early 00's. Used to watch OReilly and Hannity regularly. Then you guys morphed into the pro-war news channel and I wisened up.

And as long as I have this written I might as well send it to CNN, NBC and the other “news” networks.




Too harsh? At least someone in their newsroom will read it before hitting the delete button.

[sailingaway]

We have a whole forum devoted to this. And we pulled a bunch of stuff for 'Black this out' and there are pictures of polls where Ron is in second or third and is simply left off of the screen graphic....

And of course there are those Pew and Minnesota edu studies of lack of coverage earlier when other candidates were being introduced to the country.

[MelissaWV]

I don't really think calling people "hacks" when you are responding to their call for media bias is very helpful.

[ghengis86]

sounds like they want us to spend hours of our time not calling or doing local activism. Sounds like a distraction. Sounds like they need to be ignored.

i think sending a few links (like those in this thread and the Media Bias forum) wouldn't take much more than a few minutes. If we all sent the links in Elwar's post, that would probably be enough. Just don't waste too much time on it; PFH and local activism will get more votes than pleading with Fox to be objective (but worth a shot IMHO).

[silver]

Have them count how many times they have said Ron Paul unelectable vs every other candidate

[IDefendThePlatform]

I don't really think calling people "hacks" when you are responding to their call for media bias is very helpful.

I understand your concern. I considered toning it down, but really them asking for examples of media bias is kind of disingenuous when they're pumping out propaganda at the rate they are. Sometimes I think its a good thing for them to know people are pissed, rather than just calmly pointing out their shortcomings.

[ghengis86]

Have them count how many times they have said Ron Paul unelectable vs every other candidate

or how many times any candidate not named Paul gets asked if they'll run 3rd party?

[specsaregood]

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9171/iowastrawpollresults.jpg

[Bruno]

One of the Fox news people can just look in media spin.

[specsaregood]

//

[brushfire]

It'd be nice to pin the different mainstream outlets against each other, but something tells me Fox would do nothing with this information.

The bias has been brazenly displayed - they know they're biased. One has to wonder why they would be asking us for examples.

I say prepare examples for each network, and package them for distribution individually. Like throwing a steak into a cage to starving pitbulls.

[specsaregood]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwo0Iyrh1Zk

[walt]

I dunno, point them to Jon Stewart? Seems he has a lot of evidence.

this

[sanssq]

Media bias????? How about the McLaughlin group (CBS) citing a poll taken the 4th and 5th of January that showed Santorum in second place??? No mention of the last three polls that show Paul surging and Santorum crashing. (Time: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:00- 11:30 AM EST)

Gee, why would they do that? It's back to ignore Paul again.

[BUSHLIED]

MEDIA BIAS in a Nutshell.

1. Constantly referred to as a "fringe" candidate this election cycle. Out of step with the GOP, really a libertarian (You could argue the case that initially he was a "fringe" candidate in 07...even though I disagree.)
2. Constantly referred to as a Libertarian.
3. Only candidate asked about a third-party run even after placing third in IA and 2nd NH.
4. Debate time disproportionately less than other candidates even though he was/is higher in the polls and has more money.
5. Skipped on questions about economics or the federal reserve when he has been the ONLY one talking about it.
6. Said to be unelectable yet polls competitively against Obama.
7. Said that he won't be the nominee constantly.
8. Said to that he is an isolationist, dangerous etc...
9. Excluded from the Jewish forum because his ideas are radical
10. Hardly talked about in the media relative to other candidates and when he is talked about refer to 1 thru 8 above.
11. Excluded from polls shown on TV, fundraising numbers distorted or left out...
12. Saying that he wants to END medicaid and SS...
13. CNN Dana Bash, enough said there.
14. Not talking about Ron Paul's issues but focusing on distracting and trivial issues constantly.

CNN on NOW talking about media bias and taking Ron seriously....showing the Dana Bash clip.

Screen reads: "Ron Paul gets testy on CNN" Media discount second place finish.

Paul plays a weird game with the press. Not the best messenger for his message. Part of his authenticity...he doesn't care if the clip is on youtube. Saying that Ron gets annoyed when he just explained himself and asked the same question etc...

[William R]

Send this to FAUX news and ask why Brit Hume still has a job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6UO731mEoc

[69360]

Yeah lets give faux ammunition they can use against us in the future. :rolleyes:

Breaking on faux news wacky radical racist supporters of gadfly diminutive candidate Ron Paul accuse media of bias yet again. :mad:

Screw faux, if they weren't subliminally influencing people Ron would be in a much better place right now.

[sanssq]

Media bias????? How about the McLaughlin group (CBS) citing a poll taken the 4th and 5th of January that showed Santorum in second place??? No mention of the last three polls that show Paul surging and Santorum crashing. (Time: Jan 15th 2012 at 11:00- 11:30 AM EST)

Gee, why would they do that? It's back to ignore Paul again.


People..... All of what people are saying about Paul being "fringe", the marginalizing of him is, of course, true. We all know that. BUT it isn't something that cannot be dismissed as a opinion by the corrupt media. The above is much more difficult to dismiss. Using old polls to make their point is direct manipulation of news.

[ctiger2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09XzAyFwXbY

[TimeForChange]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwo0Iyrh1Zk
Wow, never saw that one. THat needs to be seen by everyone.

[jolynna]

Video of CNBC admitting they censored Ron Paul by removing their Online Poll because Ron Paul was dominating it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDcOQ_8WWMs&feature=related

[JK/SEA]

Will need to rent-a-truck and have someone deliver the boxes.

[Barrex]

OK LAZY ASS PUNKS: Time for some action. All you mighty "Internet Warriors"(sorry:D)

Fox just challanged us (well all viewers) to submit any evidence they have about media bias. They talked about other candidates and Ron Paul too.

Newswatch@foxnews.com

Why not accept challange and up it a notch:

1)
Send evidance to FOX your self.If you decide to do this be carefull not to use materials that would give them Copyright infringement evidence.
2)
We should all contact reporter Ben Swann and Jon Stewart (from what I have seen he is really fair to us and Ron Paul) and ask them to compile evidence and respond to Fox.We could collect all evidence and send it to them.
Ben Swann contact information:
bswann@fox19.com
http://www.facebook.com/BenSwannRealityCheck

Jon Stewart contact information:
http://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
604 West 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019
Email: thedailyshow@comedycentral.com

Evidance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3x_uY4OTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUXBz6AGJFM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Jy4RYCqlQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWJR1r7Ex4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwyC95rGDL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ip3VwB5z5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWDUjgXwbbU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPpco4eMePQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cwMBXWmdIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTaOCvduoTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ji9Ond5pmM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0PQvntgjCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8M2JBIoqo&feature=BFa&list=...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9yOgLP7Lkw&feature=BFa&list=...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qpVWPlqSAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUxQadgSkoA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZBl1k7b9Aw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSkFezYS0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIUKxEjKV3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaJrMq51e9w&feature=youtu.be
http://voices.yahoo.com/cbs-news-pimping-parliament-whores-i...

http://www.reddit.com/r/ronpaulcensored
:oThere at least 2 threads here about media spin:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?305-Media-Spin

THEY ARE ASKING FOR IT!!!!!!
(For real revolution you need to have music, goal and HAVE FUN)

This is limited time offer.Please hammer them.

Any suggestions?

Other thread on this:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?351192-Fox-News-is-asking-for-us-to-submit-evidence-of-media-bias

[Mini-Me]

OK LAZY ASS PUNKS: Time for some action. All you mighty "Internet Warriors"(sorry:D)

Fox just challanged us (well all viewers) to submit any evidence they have about media bias. They talked about other candidates and Ron Paul too.

Newswatch@foxnews.com

Why not accept challange and up it a notch:

1)
Send evidance to FOX your self.If you decide to do this be carefull not to use materials that would give them Copyright infringement evidence.
2)
We should all contact reporter Ben Swann (from what I have seen he is really fair to us and Ron Paul) and ask him to compile evidence and respond to Fox.We could collect all evidance and send it to him.


Evidance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3x_uY4OTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUXBz6AGJFM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Jy4RYCqlQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWJR1r7Ex4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwyC95rGDL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ip3VwB5z5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWDUjgXwbbU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPpco4eMePQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cwMBXWmdIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTaOCvduoTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ji9Ond5pmM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0PQvntgjCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8M2JBIoqo&feature=BFa&list=...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9yOgLP7Lkw&feature=BFa&list=...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qpVWPlqSAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUxQadgSkoA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZBl1k7b9Aw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSkFezYS0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIUKxEjKV3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaJrMq51e9w&feature=youtu.be
http://voices.yahoo.com/cbs-news-pimping-parliament-whores-i...

http://www.reddit.com/r/ronpaulcensored


THEY ARE ASKING FOR IT!!!!!!
(For real revolution you need to have music, goal and HAVE FUN)

This is limited time offer.Please hammer them.

Any suggestions?

Just FYI, it's "evidence," with an 'e.' (I understand English isn't your first language. :))

Here's a related thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?351192-Fox-News-is-asking-for-us-to-submit-evidence-of-media-bias

[kpitcher]

Media bias forum has so many screen shots and/or exact channel timestamps to make any reporter's life easy. Anyone sent them a link?

[thesnake742]

The problem is that it's very hard to prove. Most networks probably have excuses at the ready for any example you may throw at them.

[Barrex]

Crap....... I did used search to see if there is another thread and I didnt find that thread... and "a" fixed to "e"...also:Why is this forum not on croatian language ffs?

[coffeewithgames]

Lets search people. Maybe they will actually redeem themselves.

The fact they have to ask, shows they can't be redeemed. It's 100% obvious to anybody that isn't a Fox News devotee, or liberal CNN/MSBNC devotee. The evidence hits them in the face daily with shows like Jon Steward, YouTube videos, and their own reporting...and they have to seriously ask others to do their job?

Here's just two examples in video form:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVT3dYTdw4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkrjU9dqdMA

[thoughtomator]

Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON@rly32g.srv.mailcontrol.com

1:07 PM (0 minutes ago)

to me
The original message was received at Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:07:47 GMT
from mail-tul01m020-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]

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[The Goat]

Do they really want to do this. Oh wait, they love getting involved in wars they wont win.

[bbartlog]

FOX will never be fair to Paul. I would expect this to be a waste of time. You'd be better off submitting it to the Daily Show.

[ScotTFO]

Should probably send this stuff to Ben and the Judge as well to make sure it gets used correctly.

[No Free Beer]

don't fall for this.

[vechorik]

Fake email -- I think it's a hoax and a waste of time for Ron Paul supporters. I sent this -- bad email address
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Final-Recipient: RFC822; Newswatch@foxnews.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; [74.120.98.10]
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Mailbox unavailable or access denied - <newswatch@foxnews.com>
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:16:02 GMT


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Elaine Vechorik <sturgissoapfactory@gmail.com>
To: Newswatch@foxnews.com
Cc:
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:15:59 -0600
Subject: Media bias
You asked for proof of media bias, yet you already know the statistics of your own network.

Try looking at the pro-Paul vs the anti-Paul statements on Fox News.

DON'T COMBINE FOX NEWS AND FOX BUSINESS NEWS -- just Fox News alone.

You know that the favorable coverage seen on Fox Business News has very few viewers and it's
like comparing apples to oranges.

Of course, your stats of pro vs anti Paul statements won't include OMISSION of his name, which
is how Fox mostly shows a bias against Ron Paul -- plain old omission.

As a Ron Paul supporter, I have more important things to do than fight your obviously biased network.
You already know the truth. I assume it's a media directive to the employees of Fox.

[Travlyr]

The most glaring example of media bias is that they avoid talking about the Federal Reserve System, how it came into being, and the fundamentals of 'elastic' fiat money.

If they did, then like Henry Ford said,

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/henryford136294.html#ixzz1jYIWO0z2
Their counterfeiting scheme would come to a grinding halt right away.

[vechorik]

don't fall for this.

Fake email -- I sent letter and returned with bad email address. Yes, I think it's fake and a waste of time for RP supporters.

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Final-Recipient: RFC822; Newswatch@foxnews.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; [74.120.98.10]
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Mailbox unavailable or access denied - <newswatch@foxnews.com>
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:16:02 GMT


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Elaine Vechorik <sturgissoapfactory@gmail.com>
To: Newswatch@foxnews.com
Cc:
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:15:59 -0600
Subject: Media bias
You asked for proof of media bias, yet you already know the statistics of your own network.

Try looking at the pro-Paul vs the anti-Paul statements on Fox News.

DON'T COMBINE FOX NEWS AND FOX BUSINESS NEWS -- just Fox News alone.

You know that the favorable coverage seen on Fox Business News has very few viewers and it's
like comparing apples to oranges.

Of course, your stats of pro vs anti Paul statements won't include OMISSION of his name, which
is how Fox mostly shows a bias against Ron Paul -- plain old omission.

As a Ron Paul supporter, I have more important things to do than fight your obviously biased network.
You already know the truth. I assume it's a media directive to the employees of Fox.

[swissaustrian]

Maybe their inbox is full?

[NoPants]

I'm guessing they're just fishing for ways to attack CNN and MSNBC. If they have a segment on "media bias" showing all the things their competitors do it makes Fox look bad for creating a hit piece about their compitetion. But... if they ask their viewers to send it in they can say "Well our viewers have submitted clips of media bias..." and it protects them from looking bad because it was the stuff WE chose, not them. This is just a way to do a hack job attack on their competition, nothing more.

[affa]

yea, because they're sure to be unbiased while doing anything with this

[goliberty78]

Sure thing my friend:


Foxnews needs to look in the mirror if they’re interested in seeing examples of media bias. Their treatment of Ron Paul this election has been atrocious. Just a few examples:


- hit piece by the Doocy kid on racist newsletters with zero mention of the fact that the head of the Austin, TX NAACP has been defending Ron Paul for 20 years. He states that Ron Paul is not a racist and that more people should listen to him. Also, no mention of how Ron Paul polls better with minorities than all the other GOP candidates. “Fair and Balanced?” Here are some links for next time (because we all know you hacks will bring this up again if Ron does well in South Carolina or others):
http://ronpaulflix.com/category/racism/ (http://ronpaulflix.com/category/racism/)

-number of times a Foxnews host or anchor says “Ron Paul can’t win..” “Concerns about electability...” “Won’t win a single primary...” “Not top tier...” and look at where he is now? 2nd place overall and surging in South Carolina, even IN SPITE OF YOUR BIASED COVERAGE. O’Reilly admitted the other day he didn’t like Ron Paul because “He engages in too many personal attacks”, which is complete bullshit but at least its just an opinion. Hannity, Huckabee, Bill Kristol, Steve Deace, O’Reilly, Hume, Krauthammer, Dick Morris all routinely do everything they can to downplay and discredit his poll numbers. Here’s one pathetic example from “Senior Political Analyst” Brit Hume:
http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2012/01/fox-host-says-rupaul-is-a-more-likely-gop-candidate-than-ron-paul/ (http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2012/01/fox-host-says-rupaul-is-a-more-likely-gop-candidate-than-ron-paul/)

Not news?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fLgWqiGjzyw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fLgWqiGjzyw)

Why not let the voters decide?
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/08/krauthammer-ron-paul-is-not-going-to-be-president-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/08/krauthammer-ron-paul-is-not-going-to-be-president-video/)

This is just pathetic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=VAVM_IZolkA#t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=VAVM_IZolkA#t=0s)

More hit pieces, notably lacking in fairness and balance:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1353161979001/ron-pauls-iran-policy (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1353161979001/ron-pauls-iran-policy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YwRVUclo19A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YwRVUclo19A)


If any other GOP candidate had such a monstrous advantage in military donations it would be headline news. Somehow Ron Paul getting 2x as much active duty military $$$ as all the other Republicans combined doesn’t get discussed much, and when it does it’s “surprising”.

You should know that I was actually a Foxnews fan in the late 90s and early 00's. Used to watch OReilly and Hannity regularly. Then you guys morphed into the pro-war news channel and I wisened up.

And as long as I have this written I might as well send it to CNN, NBC and the other “news” networks.




Too harsh? At least someone in their newsroom will read it before hitting the delete button.

You should put this in a post in the Media Spin forum titled something like "Paul Media Bias Examples" and keep adding to it. Would love to have all examples collected into a long list in one post, maybe even broken down by each network, and sticky that mofo. Would be very handy to have

[Dr.3D]

Why supply evidence to a biased "news" network? Do you expect them to be unbiased when and if they ever present a story about it?

[Barrex]

That is why I suggested to contact Ben and Jon... They would be glad to "stick it to them".

[William R]

Tell FAUX to put this in their pipe and smoke it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6UO731mEoc

[UK4Paul]

What about the time given to each candidate in the last debate?

I'd like to see a breakdown.

[UK4Paul]

What about the length of time given to each candidate in the last debate?

[69360]

When you all respond to stuff like this, you reinforce the msm meme that Ron isn't a top tier candidate and his supporter are whiners. Just saying.

[seeker4sho]

USE examples of OTHER news outlets (CNN, MSNBC etc.)
Found this at the dailypaul:

http://www.dailypaul.com/204330/foxnews-is-asking-for-us-to-submit-evidence-of-media-bias

That is one stupid request by FOX News, obviously they cannot see the forest for the trees.

[Kandilynn]

They want to start trying to turn the story around so that they don't lose their jobs when Ron Paul wins. Welp, better late than never to join the rEVOLution.



Also, I beg you guys to edit yourselves and try to be a little diplomatic. They seem to be trying to give us an olive branch and if we are hateful it will only result in blowback.

[jolynna]

When you all respond to stuff like this, you reinforce the msm meme that Ron isn't a top tier candidate and his supporter are whiners. Just saying.

It isn't whining.

I don't want my news (information) filtered for "my own good". Lying (and not telling ALL of the truth is a LIE) is how Hitler was able to kill 11 million people. It doesn't matter that Fox or CNN or CBS thinks their lies are little ones and "for our own good". At every level, lying is unethical, wrong, irresponsible and possibly dangerous.

We should treat it as a big deal because it is one.

[69360]

It isn't whining.

I don't want my news (information) filtered for "my own good". Lying (and not telling ALL of the truth is a LIE) is how Hitler was able to kill 11 million people. It doesn't matter that Fox or CNN or CBS thinks their lies are little ones and "for our own good". At every level, lying is unethical, wrong, irresponsible and possibly dangerous.

We should treat it as a big deal because it is one.

By responding to their little game, you are playing into their trap.

[JK/SEA]

Actually, i like the idea previous that suggested we do nothing and keep pounding via internet about bias. The MSM is a bleeding and wounded enemy. Let em die.

[jolynna]

Any responsible news network should understand that viewer's concerns about lying (and omitted information is the same thing as a lie) are a valid issue.

Playing "loose with the truth" is irresponsible and not fair to those who depend upon them for information.

(My own opinion.)

[PatriotOne]

Fox News is asking for us to submit evidence of media bias

A fools errand.

[Xenophage]

Just ignore them

ha!

[Bruno]

"We asked Paul's supporters to provide evidence of media bias, but they did not respond or were unable to provide any."

That is the statement we want to avoid.

[chipvogel]

Give them competitors to bash. Then when they start either the other #presscorpse will strike back at them or we got them by their short and curlies when they pull their shenanigans.

Rev9

exactly

shoot Fox the Dana Bash why didnt you shake the voters hand question

Fox news was there too, and reported on how hard it was to get near Paul.
Fox also showed the pushing and shoving at the event.

A fair question to Paul from Bash whould have been l
"Why didn't you fight your way through the media surrounding you to shake this voters hand?"

[PatriotOne]

"We asked Paul's supporters to provide evidence of media bias, but they did not respond or were unable to provide any."

That is the statement we want to avoid.

And what do you suppose will happen if we provide them proof? An public apology and a primetime 1 hour infocommercial for RP t explain his positions? They are going to spin it however they want and waste our time in the process. There is no reasoning or making up to them. They ARE the gatekeepers for the 1 percent. They aren't going to change. The people who control these networks needs to be destroyed, not catered to.

[DevilsAdvocate]

You guys, stop saying that it's a waste of time. Moaning all the time about media bias and then not providing examples when you are asked makes you look whiny and childish.

I am calling you all on your crap, it's my job. I am the Devils Advocate after all.

[BLS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht6dRsX0qdw

[CaptainAmerica]

every bill oreilly interview ever conducted is evidence. FOX's hit pieces on jon stewart the comedian.HMM we can name a few more:

FOX's inability to report the scandal with Rupert Murdochs gossip magazine that interfered with investigations of missing girls, and a reporter who was found dead while the scandal's lid was blown off.

[Cap]

Tell them to watch twitter...the "Ron Paul Game". That should provide many instances.

[WIwarrior]

You guys, stop saying that it's a waste of time. Moaning all the time about media bias and then not providing examples when you are asked makes you look whiny and childish.

I am calling you all on your crap, it's my job. I am the Devils Advocate after all.

It is a waste of time because FOX is the biggest offender of media bias. It's like a police officer assaults you then asks you to prove it to them.

[KingRobbStark]

Tell them to watch a rerun of that same program afterwords.

[Bruno]

Tell them to watch a rerun of that same program afterwords.

+ rep

[brushfire]

After thinking it over, they're probably preparing some sort of "victory" footage. I agree with others - pi$$ on fox, let them do their own work. They've taken their side, let them deal with the consequences.

[agorist ninja]

They'll just use whatever you send them in a way that attempts to discredit our stance on the media. "This is what they say, but is it really true? Here's one of the reporters in question! What does he have to say?" And there you go...

[Liberty4life]

Maybe the #theronpaulgame is getting some attention..

[The Gold Standard]

Send them a huge list of examples only on Fox. Then say, "Sorry if you were trying to attack the other networks. You still have plenty to do the story though. If not, I'm sure the other networks might like to do it."

[PatriotOne]

Some here act as if Fox (or any of the LSM) don't know they are intentionally destroying those opposed to their masters. What a bunch of bullshit. Anyone who has spent anytime at all folowing the media's coverage of RP should know this is the case and if they don't then they are an idiot. Even replying to this absurd request gives them legitamacy. They are not legit. They are nothing more than propaganda for the people who are destroying this country while they use our money and our resources to commit genocide and rape and pillage other countries and nation build while creating their one world government. We need to quit acting as if they are going to change and treat them as enemy of the people. That is what they are.

[All Ways]

Fox News can go play on Route 287.

[Tina]

Some here act as if Fox (or any of the LSM) don't know they are intentionally destroying those opposed to their masters. What a bunch of bullshit. Anyone who has spent anytime at all folowing the media's coverage of RP should know this is the case and if they don't then they are an idiot. Even replying to this absurd request gives them legitamacy. They are not legit. They are nothing more than propaganda for the people who are destroying this country while they use our money and our resources to commit genocide and rape and pillage other countries and nation build while creating their one world government. We need to quit acting as if they are going to change and treat them as enemy of the people. That is what they are.

+rep

[agorist ninja]

Some here act as if Fox (or any of the LSM) don't know they are intentionally destroying those opposed to their masters. What a bunch of bullshit. Anyone who has spent anytime at all folowing the media's coverage of RP should know this is the case and if they don't then they are an idiot. Even replying to this absurd request gives them legitamacy. They are not legit. They are nothing more than propaganda for the people who are destroying this country while they use our money and our resources to commit genocide and rape and pillage other countries and nation build while creating their one world government. We need to quit acting as if they are going to change and treat them as enemy of the people. That is what they are.
Fantastic post.

+rep for you.

Glad some people here still get it. Seems like many are being seduced by this nonsense.

[Mark37snj]

Its for Hanity's segment called Media Mash where they point out OTHER stations bias while they protend they have angel wings on and never do that kind of stuff.

[Bruno]

Fantastic post.

+rep for you.

Glad some people here still get it. Seems like many are being seduced by this nonsense.

Speaking for myself, I am not seduced one bit.

We know that they know they are biased. But they are going to run with the story regardless, and some the 98% of Ron Paul supporters outside these forums with supply their evidence no matter what is decided or done here.

Might as well give them good examples, let the public decide from what they show regardless of how we knew they would spin it? I can't see it being anything but a bet positive.

[jolynna]

Its for Hanity's segment called Media Mash where they point out OTHER stations bias while they protend they have angel wings on and never do that kind of stuff.

NBC, CNN & CBS and the rest deserve to be called out.

Hopefully, the stations bashed by Hannity's segment will get their revenge and illustrate Fox's hypocrisy with video of Fox showing bias.

I won't apologize for being upset that the media coverage of the 2012 GOP primaries and the polling for such has not been accurate.

[TheTexan]

Speaking for myself, I am not seduced one bit.

We know that they know they are biased. But they are going to run with the story regardless, and some the 98% of Ron Paul supporters outside these forums with supply their evidence no matter what is decided or done here.

Might as well give them good examples, let the public decide from what they show regardless of how we knew they would spin it? I can't see it being anything but a bet positive.

This is my view on it as well.

[silver]

Fox is probably losing a massive amount of viewers and may try to win back all of the Ron Pall supporters that left to get news from the internet.

[The Free Hornet]

I sent emails after Ames Iowa. Every email to foxnewswatch bounced. Months ago and weeks apart, everything bounces. I used to enjoy the show but their own bias became too much. Back then, they were Perry/Bachmann lovers. I think Pinkerton's wife was working for the Bachmann campaign. They live in their own world and the point of the News Watch is Orwellian. They're keeping people in line.

They are simply a waste of time and about as truthful as Bill O's "no spin zone".

[RonPaulVolunteer]

No time to read the thread, but all the evidence they need is compiled nicely on this website: http://FoxNews.com

Should be all they need.

:|

[PatriotOne]

Might as well give them good examples, let the public decide from what they show regardless of how we knew they would spin it?

Letting the public decide is the opposite of what they do.

[Mark37snj]

I won't apologize for being upset that the media coverage of the 2012 GOP primaries and the polling for such has not been accurate.

Who is asking you to do that?

[PatriotOne]

Fox is probably losing a massive amount of viewers and may try to win back all of the Ron Pall supporters that left to get news from the internet.That is a true statement. Some presidential race polls even include the question "Do you watch Fox News"? The percentage of RP supporters who say yes is really small compared to the rest of the candidates supporters.

[InTradePro]

From 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFbpgWeFSMs

[dc_]

89 seconds at CBS debate.

[Patrick Henry]

Why doesn't fox just use their own clips of them either talking about Paul or interviewing him?

[agorist ninja]

Why doesn't fox just use there own clips of them either talking about Paul or interviewing him?
Uh, because they're not really interested in sharing the MSM bias against Ron Paul. They most likely want to do exactly the opposite.

Your question should've been the first thing everyone asked themselves. Oh well.

[specsaregood]

//

[DevilsAdvocate]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?351330-Philadelphia-Inquirer-After-NH-results

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8884/croppedinquirer.jpg

Lol, WOW. Agenda much?

[Paulatized]

They would not have to go back any further than today. Just write the names Paul, Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, Perry and Huntsman down and left side of a paper. Then run back all of today's news broadcasts. Each time a one of the names is mentioned mark a tally. Ron Paul might have one. I know, I had Fox on today as I worked around the house. Not a word about Ron Paul, all day. But you will probably have to add extra paper to tally Santorum's. Especially about the outcome of the meeting in TX and the only 3 social conservatives in the race, Santorum, Perry and Gingrich. It makes me literally sick.

[Ohio4Paul]

How about the fact that they aren't mentioning the S.C. endorsement?

[Lishy]

I agree with the tally idea.

Each time one of them is mentioned, mark it down, and cite the source article of whichever company.

Additionally, we should make down debate times for the candidates.

[Matthew Zak]

I say we bomb them with so much evidence they have a hard time sifting through it to find the evidence they are looking for (which is to support their own agenda).

[michaelwise]

FOX can start their understanding of how their propaganda and bias works here;

The data on the following chart has been gathered from the media monitoring site TVEyes. The totals have been calculated from adding up all mentions from the past two months, May 28 to July 28, and separated by network.


Candidate, MSNBC, CNN, FOX, Mentions

Mitt Romney 1,756 868 961 3585
Sarah Palin 1,449 847 989 3,285
Michele Bachmann 1,531 709 895 3,135
Newt Gingrich 1,208 597 620 2,425
Donald Trump 514 435 605 1,554
Tim Pawlenty 922 390 587 1,899
Rick Perry 564 249 404 1,217
Ron Paul 352 315 391 1,058
Herman Cain 222 153 544 919
Rick Santorum 295 218 271 784
TOTAL 8,813 4,781 6,267 19,861

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-devoting-more-coverage-to-gop-candidates-than-cnn-or-fox-news/

[pacelli]

One has to wonder why they would be asking us for examples.


So they can continue to claim that they are FAIR. They ARE asking us, aren't they?

And when they go back to the "black out ron paul" mode again once more people exit the race, they'll be able to say, "we not only reached out to the campaign about this issue of media bias, but we also reached out to Ron Paul's grassroots supporters".

Then they will tie it all together with a big fat red republican bowtie, and claim that Mitt Romney is the tea party favorite...

Just mark my words.

[Barrex]

Again:
Ben Swanson and Jon Stewart. Contact them!
I posted contact info on this thread...

[squirekyle]

Guys, send them these links, here's TWO independent studies done on the debate times.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2011/10/equal_time_romney_records_one.php

http://www.journalism.org/node/26958

[Highstreet]

NY Times admits to it:
http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2012/01/the_times_admits_it_deep-sixed.html

[MelissaWV]

Excellent article:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/16/cnn-poll-obama-tied-with-romney-paul-in-november-showdowns/

Huge photo of Romney, Ron, and Obama at the top. Only problem?

1164

^ Click to Enlarge.

Ron Paul does not appear in the "Breaking News" link on their front page. You have to actually click the story to see that the latest poll shows Ron and Romney are both AS LIKELY TO BEAT OBAMA in a one-on-one race.

[slamhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXYetNw7tN8

[Thor]

Look at the camera angle FOX showed over and over last night at the SC debate. Ron Paul looks visually distant from the other 4. I never noticed the reverse angle with Perry at the other end being visually distant.

http://i.imgur.com/XGGjP.jpg


Plus, I think Dr Paul got only 1 minute or so to speak in the first 30 minutes of the debate. Did not time it, but noticed he did not get any air time so to speak.

[MsDoodahs]

That's a great demonstration of the "gang up on Ron Paul because he's kicking our asses."