BEWARE SC - News reporters spreading "closed primary" propaganda

[nc4rp]

according to http://www.fairvote.org the SC primary is open due to :



S.C.Code Ann. §§ 7-11-10
A U.S. District Court judge ruled inGreenville County Republican Party Executive Committee v. South Carolina, that South Carolina's open primary is constitutional.
Open











so why do MULTIPLE reporters on cnn/msnbc etc corraborate "YES - SC IS A CLOSED PRIMARY"

i think they are doing a massive push to make independents and democrats think that its closed.


also:


Court Dismisses GOP Lawsuit to End Open Primary System in South Carolina. (http://www.independentvoting.org/about/AttorneygeneralindependentstrytoblockRepublicansui ttocloseprimaries.html)

"The Republican Party’s legal efforts to close its primary elections to those outside its ranks has met resistance both from the state attorney general of its own party and an unlikely coalition of independents who say they want voting influence in the state’s dominant political organization." So writes Eric Connor who is covering the lawsuit for the http://independentvoting.org/about/AttorneygeneralindependentstrytoblockRepublicansui ttocloseprimaries.html
(http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20110214/NEWS/302140009/Attorney-general-independents-try-to-block-Republican-suit-to-close-primaries)

[PauliticsPolitics]

Yep...
SC is certainly open. Any registered voter can vote.
Read the official FAQ from South Carolina Election Commision:
http://www.scvotes.org/files/2012-01-09 (PPP FAQs).pdf (http://www.scvotes.org/files/2012-01-09%20(PPP%20FAQs).pdf)

[S.Shorland]

During a report about Ron exiting the diner in New Hampshire,the reporter stated it was funny that Paul concentrated his time on the youth because only those over 30 could vote in New Hampshire.I didn't imagine it and I'm looking for it on Youtube.An obvious attempt to persuade some younger people not to show.It was a female reporter/news reader.

[S.Shorland]

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[BigByrd47119]

During a report about Ron exiting the diner in New Hampshire,the reporter stated it was funny that Paul concentrated his time on the youth because only those over 30 could vote in New Hampshire.I didn't imagine it and I'm looking for it on Youtube.An obvious attempt to persuade some younger people not to show.It was a female reporter/news reader.

Probably Dana Bash...

[Student Of Paulism]

Seems this was just a lame attempt by the RNC to try and manipulate and have dominion over the voting process by shutting out dems and indies. Personally, i think everyone should be allowed to vote, but maybe put some 'penalties' in play for switching. Like if you are a dem and you want to vote repub, you can switch, but can't go back for a certain amount of time.

[Mark37snj]

This is a big problem. All day today and yesterday CNN and FOX have been saying the same thing, that SC is a closed primary. If SC is truely an open primary he needs to make an announcement to the media. Hopefully today when he has his big event in Florida he will say something or maybe at the first debate. This really needs to be brought up. All you vid makers out there, we need someone who can compile a vid of all the media clips saying that SC is closed and get it to go viral fast.

[jersdream]

that voteforronpaul site is even wrong on this, calling it closed. It is pathetic when pro-paul websites can't even get their facts straight because they can't do 5 seconds of research.

[nc4rp]

the campaign needs to fix this NOW.

[jersdream]

Wikipedia is not reporting closed primary, they have it as open.

[nc4rp]

Wikipedia is not reporting closed primary, they have it as open. thanks, i fixed my title. the wiki was hearsay but i witnessed a TV newscaster coraborate with 2 in-the-field reporters about SC being closed. all 3 agreed authoritatively that it was fact. they had me convnvced except i called bullshit and looked it up.

[jersdream]

thanks, i fixed my title. the wiki was hearsay but i witnessed a TV newscaster coraborate with 2 in-the-field reporters about SC being closed. all 3 agreed authoritatively that it was fact. they had me convnvced except i called bullshit and looked it up.


That is not good :(. Ugh. This is more open than New Hampshire. ANYBODY can vote in this primary. Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, etc. This is a huge deal. Especially our permanence with independents. We can't let any possible votes stay home because they think they can't vote.

Thanks for making this an issue. This cannot get unnoticed. I'm sure the other campaigns and the media would be more than happy to say this is a closed primary! +rep for attention

[tempest]

*double*

[tempest]

New Hampshire newspaper is still claiming (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?nfpr=1&hl=en&num=100&q=cache:1KPsUX8HEF8J:http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/newsstatenewengland/946205-227/sc-beckoning-gop-hopefuls.html+%22south+carolina+is+a+closed+primar y%22&ct=clnk) that SC is an open primary :rolleyes:

[speciallyblend]

isn't their laws to protect the election from this manipulation? voter suppression? This is being done on purpose.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

They did this crap in NEW JERSEY. It says closed primary everywhere I looked, but at the polls I was told it's open.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

If this is true we should file a lawsuit against the media companies doing this. This is total manipulation for political gain.

[wgadget]

bump

[Student Of Paulism]

They did this crap in NEW JERSEY. It says closed primary everywhere I looked, but at the polls I was told it's open.

Seriously? Wtf?? Im in Jersey as well, that's messed up. Everywhere i look pretty much said CLOSED. What a bunch space cadets these morons are. Either that, or its deliberate to keep other parties out.

I am sure Christie is behind that, that sell out bastard that he is.

[AlexAmore]

I remember clearly thinking SC was a closed primary too from the media. Then from the forums, I realized it was open. fuck...

[centure7]

Anyone fooled by this *should* personally file a lawsuit against the media companies participating in this.

[nc4rp]

I remember clearly thinking SC was a closed primary too from the media. Then from the forums, I realized it was open. fuck...

thats why im saying the official campaign needs to hear about this, and "insert" the counter msg into the msg in TV ads, at the debate or whatever such as people being interviewed, etc.

The mis-info just it needs to be countered, especially if there's a big effort to suppress the vote with a massive media push by the establishment or by PACs even that want to keep Dr Paul from getting votes.

the dirty tricks will be different in every state. we need to be alert for shennanegins.

[Shelton88]

I think this will backfire on them. Lets think for a second. Ron Paul supports tend to get there news more from other sources than MSM. Every other candidates people tend to watch the MSM. So the indipendants and democrats(yea right) that vote for the other candidates are the ones taking the full blunt of this attack, not ron paul supporters.

[nc4rp]

I think this will backfire on them. Lets think for a second. Ron Paul supports tend to get there news more from other sources than MSM. Every other candidates people tend to watch the MSM. So the indipendants and democrats(yea right) that vote for the other candidates are the ones taking the full blunt of this attack, not ron paul supporters.

but Ron Paul has like 10x the support from independents, democrats, and libertarians, than the rest combined.... thats a significant hit.

[musicmax]

Here is the message I just sent to the SC For Ron Paul meetup list. Feel free to modify and distribute to your own lists:
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There are multiple reports on www.RonPaulForums.com and elsewhere that media outlets and websites are reporting that South Carolina is a “closed” primary, meaning that only voters who are already registered Republican can vote. THIS IS FALSE, as confirmed by the South Carolina Board Of Elections:

http://www.scvotes.org/files/2012-01-09%20%28PPP%20FAQs%29.pdf


Q. Do I have to be a registered Republican to participate in the Republican Presidential Primary?
A. No, S.C. does not have registration by party. The Presidential Primary is open to all registered S.C. voters.

It is absolutely essential that all Ron Paul supporters call every radio talk show and email every newspaper and radio & TV station, to spread this information.

Also, call your local county GOP office and ask whether Independents and Democrats are eligible to vote in the GOP Primary. If they tell you they are not, inform them that they are wrong, ask to speak to the County Chairman, and report them to the media.
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[kpitcher]

People should tweet this during the upcoming primary debate with whatever the hashtag is

[parocks]

That is not good :(. Ugh. This is more open than New Hampshire. ANYBODY can vote in this primary. Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, etc. This is a huge deal. Especially our permanence with independents. We can't let any possible votes stay home because they think they can't vote.

Thanks for making this an issue. This cannot get unnoticed. I'm sure the other campaigns and the media would be more than happy to say this is a closed primary! +rep for attention

South Carolina isn't SAME DAY REGISTRATION. New Hampshire has SAME DAY REGISTRATION.

South Carolina = All Registered Voters
New Hampshire = Everyone but Registered Democrats

[No Free Beer]

I think the voters of the state are aware. Especially independents.

[ghengis86]

Here is the message I just sent to the SC For Ron Paul meetup list. Feel free to modify and distribute to your own lists:
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There are multiple reports on www.RonPaulForums.com and elsewhere that media outlets and websites are reporting that South Carolina is a “closed” primary, meaning that only voters who are already registered Republican can vote. THIS IS FALSE, as confirmed by the South Carolina Board Of Elections:

http://www.scvotes.org/files/2012-01-09%20%28PPP%20FAQs%29.pdf


Q. Do I have to be a registered Republican to participate in the Republican Presidential Primary?
A. No, S.C. does not have registration by party. The Presidential Primary is open to all registered S.C. voters.

It is absolutely essential that all Ron Paul supporters call every radio talk show and email every newspaper and radio & TV station, to spread this information.

Also, call your local county GOP office and ask whether Independents and Democrats are eligible to vote in the GOP Primary. If they tell you they are not, inform them that they are wrong, ask to speak to the County Chairman, and report them to the media.
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no offense, but if the media is distorting the facts, what makes you think they will report the facts when pointed out to them?

I like the twitter bomb idea during the debate, e-mailing meetups (like you have, though without the 'report them to media' line), facbook walls, etc.

The MSM will fit tooth and nail against RP. Good for us that they are increasingly becoming irrelevant! Interwebs FTW

[moonbat]

I just uploaded a video from yesterday... I was heading out the door when I saw this so I hit the DVR button and forgot about it until I saw this thread. We need to figure out the best way to address this... :mad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTpC2seL0xg

[Lord Xar]

They don't want Ron Paul to win.

Ron Paul must mention this in the debates. MUST! And Wear must too during interviews.

[randomname]

I just uploaded a video from yesterday... I was heading out the door when I saw this so I hit the DVR button and forgot about it until I saw this thread. We need to figure out the best way to address this... :mad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTpC2seL0xg

If anyone wants to correct them on twitter... it's @ChristopherHahn and @pmusser

[Lord Xar]

RP campaign should issue a press release on this. And mention 'some' media sources have been reporting false information.

I would also mention this to Swan and uhmmm what the heck is that talkhost name is...

[tsai3904]

Seriously? Wtf?? Im in Jersey as well, that's messed up. Everywhere i look pretty much said CLOSED. What a bunch space cadets these morons are. Either that, or its deliberate to keep other parties out.

New Jersey is closed.

http://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/form_pdf/party-affiliation-form-062011.pdf

Look for here for all the states' rules with links to sources:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?315740-State-by-State-Voting-Information

[r3volution]

RP campaign should issue a press release on this. And mention 'some' media sources have been reporting false information.

I would also mention this to Swan and uhmmm what the heck is that talkhost name is... jerry doyle?

[Edward]

If the reporters are mistaken, then it means they have done a poor job of fact-checking and it is not propaganda. RP supporters stating that everything is propaganda is partially why we get labeled conspiracy theorists.

[Lord Xar]

jerry doyle?

just remembered - jon stewart

[Lord Xar]

If the reporters are mistaken, then it means they have done a poor job of fact-checking and it is not propaganda. RP supporters stating that everything is propaganda is partially why we get labeled conspiracy theorists.

How many reporters have actually gotten it right? If you are a "reporter" and getting this mundane, trivial piece wrong.. then what? You keep writing this off as the ineptitude of those reporting? If both CNN/Faux are parroting this, to me - that is an agenda.

[Edward]

How many reporters have actually gotten it right? If you are a "reporter" and getting this mundane, trivial piece wrong.. then what? You keep writing this off as the ineptitude of those reporting? If both CNN/Faux are parroting this, to me - that is an agenda.

So, someone within CNN and Fox has instructed their reporters to state that the SC primary is closed in order to deter independents and democrats from voting for Ron Paul? OK.

[goldpants]

So, someone within CNN and Fox has instructed their reporters to state that the SC primary is closed in order to deter independents and democrats from voting for Ron Paul? OK.

The answer to your question is YES.

[Liberty4life]

I'm pretty sure the residents of S.C. laughing their asses off about this, they are the ones who know.

[drak]

I just uploaded a video from yesterday... I was heading out the door when I saw this so I hit the DVR button and forgot about it until I saw this thread. We need to figure out the best way to address this... :mad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTpC2seL0xg

I still think this is a big deal, and should be exposed more.

From http://www.scvotes.org (http://www.scvotes.org/files/2012-01-09%20%28PPP%20FAQs%29.pdf)

Q. Do I have to be a registered Republican to participate in the Republican Presidential Primary?
A. No, S.C. does not have registration by party. The Presidential Primary is open to all registered S.C.
voters.