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quickmike
11-10-2007, 12:36 PM
Just curious.

kalami
11-10-2007, 12:37 PM
says pushing 2k
http://thecrossedpond.com/

quickmike
11-10-2007, 12:38 PM
says pushing 2k
http://thecrossedpond.com/

I thought there were supposed to be like 10,000 there. What happened?

maxmerkel
11-10-2007, 12:40 PM
I thought there were supposed to be like 10,000 there. What happened?

???? i think 2000 is quite remarkable :D

0zzy
11-10-2007, 12:40 PM
It thought its supposed to be like 5000

DrNoZone
11-10-2007, 12:41 PM
It thought its supposed to be like 5000

It was just people being optimistic. Only 2,500 or so RSVP'd via the campaign website.

me3
11-10-2007, 12:42 PM
People are getting a little giddy after 11/5. 2,500 would be an excellent turnout. The difference over Michigan is that CNN is there and broadcasting, and this is first tier attention.

Nefertiti
11-10-2007, 12:42 PM
I think people are coming in late. The crowds sound somewhat louder as time goes by. It looks like more people are coming in to sit down in the front too.

gagnonstudio
11-10-2007, 12:43 PM
They said the crowd is still filling out too.

partypooper
11-10-2007, 12:43 PM
???? i think 2000 is quite remarkable :D

it's funny that 2000 is remarkable in 300 million country. i went to rallies of over 500,000 people in a country of about 7 million people (despite that, we were always beaten handily on the elections but eventually the revolution succeeded...).

Naraku
11-10-2007, 12:44 PM
Actually that site said it looks like 2,000 and that was said 30 minutes ago or so:

Now the guy says it's as far as the eye can see.

Nefertiti
11-10-2007, 12:44 PM
Partypooper-What country?

partypooper
11-10-2007, 12:46 PM
Partypooper-What country?

serbia (a part of ex yugoslavia that everybody forgot US is still heavily involved in politically).

paulitics
11-10-2007, 01:03 PM
the cnn live feed looked alot more than 2000 to me.

margomaps
11-10-2007, 01:06 PM
I think some of the video feeds (not sure about the cnn one since I can't see it) make it difficult to see the whole crowd. A camera perspective from on the stage would provide a much better sense of perspective.

It's unfortunate that there are a lot of empty seats up front -- some of the camera shots I've seen make it look like a sparse crowd. I think there's a lot more people than there appears to be.

Give me liberty
11-10-2007, 01:08 PM
serbia (a part of ex yugoslavia that everybody forgot US is still heavily involved in politically).

if i am not mistaken isnt true that the usa gov is strongly supporting of Democratic Party in serbia? just a theory.

ronpaulyourmom
11-10-2007, 01:09 PM
The CNN feed looked a lot like 4000+

adpierce
11-10-2007, 01:10 PM
Such large crowds are hard to estimate

partypooper
11-10-2007, 01:31 PM
if i am not mistaken isnt true that the usa gov is strongly supporting of Democratic Party in serbia? just a theory.

all parties are democratic now. the US is primarily involved regarding the status of kosovo - it is a part of serbia which has albanian majority who want to separate themselves and become part of albania. i personally think that serbia is much better off without kosovo, but many serbs are very angry that the US supports albanians so strongly. in fact, i witnessed first hand the process that dr paul talks about - the US perception in the eyes of serbian people going from highly positive and respectful to total hatred and despise - solely as a result of US foreign policy of meddling in the internal affairs of nations whose history and circumstances they don't understand.

Johncjackson
11-10-2007, 01:33 PM
it's funny that 2000 is remarkable in 300 million country. i went to rallies of over 500,000 people in a country of about 7 million people (despite that, we were always beaten handily on the elections but eventually the revolution succeeded...).

300 million is spread out a few thousand miles in many different directions. In your country how many thousands of people traveled 3000 miles to see a "long shot" Presidential candidate hold a rally? How many major cities and states do you have that are separated by a thousand miles or more?

The market for this rally is pretty much limited to a region of RP supporters and a few thousand people IS remarkable.

partypooper
11-10-2007, 01:37 PM
300 million is spread out a few thousand miles in many different directions. In your country how many thousands of people traveled 3000 miles to see a "long shot" Presidential candidate hold a rally? How many major cities and states do you have that are separated by a thousand miles or more?

not many. so take this example: NYC is in density pretty comparable to belgrade, just bigger. there were about 200 people at the NYC rally and i was told that that was impressive. if we had less than 100,000 people at a belgrade rally that would have been considered a disaster.

Johncjackson
11-10-2007, 01:40 PM
not many. so take this example: NYC is in density pretty comparable to belgrade, just bigger. there were about 200 people at the NYC rally and i was told that that was impressive. if we had less than 100,000 people at a belgrade rally that was considered a disaster.

Fair enough. What/whom were your rallies for?

daviddee
11-10-2007, 01:42 PM
serbia (a part of ex yugoslavia that everybody forgot US is still heavily involved in politically).

I have not forgotten about the Serbian people.

I have many Serbian friends who are now living in other parts of the former Yugoslavia (Slovenia and Croatia mainly).

Proud, strong, and intelligent people... I am proud to call the Serbians -> my friends.

partypooper
11-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Fair enough. What/whom were your rallies for?

it varied - some were anti-war (those were usually smaller but still considerably bigger than what i have seen here) and some were for whomever was against milosevic (those could go above 500,000 with high risk of police abuse - i was almost killed by a group of milosevic' supporters for tearing up a poster that attacked a politician that i supported).

i don't want to be negative - it is just my experience that rallies are not a very cost effective way of fighting. as i said, we had huge rallies and were beaten up handily in the elections - over and over.

partypooper
11-10-2007, 01:49 PM
I have not forgotten about the Serbian people.

I have many Serbian friends who are now living in other parts of the former Yugoslavia (Slovenia and Croatia mainly).

Proud, strong, and intelligent people... I am proud to call the Serbians -> my friends.

i am happy to hear something positive but let's not idealize them/us :)

the problem with US policy in the balkans (and elsewhere) is that it is incredibly simplistic. it is not that serbs are great and albanians evil, it is that things are very complicated and that US does not have the resources to really investigate the issues. yet, it insists on taking sides as if things were very simple. it hurts people there but it also hurts the US - and for no reason.

1000-points-of-fright
11-10-2007, 02:00 PM
serbia (a part of ex yugoslavia that everybody forgot US is still heavily involved in politically).

My band toured Serbia last summer. It was awesome.

daviddee
11-10-2007, 02:00 PM
i am happy to hear something positive but let's not idealize them/us :)

the problem with US policy in the balkans (and elsewhere) is that it is incredibly simplistic. it is not that serbs are great and albanians evil, it is that things are very complicated and that US does not have the resources to really investigate the issues. yet, it insists on taking sides as if things were very simple. it hurts people there but it also hurts the US - and for no reason.


Correct.

I will state that I was not painting anyone as "evil" or "good" :)

Serbia is just another country, in a long list, where the US (NATO) took sides in a war, built a huge military base, and will not leave.

I will close this by saying... Tesla was Serbian :)

Naraku
11-10-2007, 02:14 PM
This should give you a nice idea of how many people there were:

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...018%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...010%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...017%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...008%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...009%5B1%5D.jpg

The Good Doctor
11-10-2007, 02:16 PM
Images not available! :(


This should give you a nice idea of how many people there were:

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...018%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...010%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...017%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...008%5B1%5D.jpg

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/...009%5B1%5D.jpg

Naraku
11-10-2007, 02:19 PM
Ahhh, it's cutting off the link here:

http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/

They've put up more pics.

akalucas
11-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Nice! thank you.

Don
11-10-2007, 03:17 PM
RP communications director Jesse Benton reports 5,000

F3d
11-10-2007, 03:20 PM
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