View Full Version : SURGE small donations 7-8PM (ET) 11/11

11-10-2007, 12:03 AM
This TIME CRITICAL message was posted at in another thread at www.ronpaulforums.com and I wanted to pass it on in a very visible location pertaining to the 11/11 moneybomb.

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Hello everyone,

We need to help the campaign perform a $10 Donation Server STRESS TEST on
November 11th from 7:00 to 8:00 PM EASTERN time.

Everyone needs to give just Ten Dollars on Sunday, November 11th from 7:00 to
8:00 PM EASTERN time.

This server test has three purposes:

#1 To give RON PAUL the greatest number of small donations in a single hour (and
thus more free media coverage).

#2 To lend an additional boost to the www.ThisNovember11th.com Veteran's Day

#3 To STRESS TEST the RON PAUL 2008 donation server leading up to the BOSTON TEA
PARTY on December 16th -- http://www.teaparty07... .

Please schedule this $10 Dollar Donation event in your individual meetup groups.

The e-Campaign Director, Justine Lam, is aware of and supportive of this
initative and has said that "Yes, I think we could handle it".

Now it is up to us to perform the $10 test to find out.

What would it say to the media if with only 2 days notice we made this go VIRAL
and accumulated a record number of unique donors and new donors in a 1 hour
period? A new different record less than a week after the Nov. 5th acheivement!

In this case the number of donors is even more important than the money.

Here's the opportunity: Call all your friends and family, especially if they
haven't yet donated, and ask them to make only the small donation required to
become part of the fun record attempt. Make sure they know where to go and when. And Donate yourself!

Participating in a political campaign is a bit like a chemical reaction: there
is a certain activation energy that needs to be surpassed before the reaction
initiates...and then even more energy is given back! Once a contributor makes
that first donation, he becomes personally involved and invested in the campaign
and will send future contributions more readily.

We can readily accomplish this, because the donation amount is relatively small
and within reach of supporters who are tapped out from last week.

Also bear in mind that purchases of campaign materials, which could support the
December 15th outreach efforts, made at the official campaign store, count as
donations. Get those materials now to avoid out-of-stock situation or shipping

****MEETUP ORGANIZERS: Is there a way to get this message to all meetup
organizers and all meetup members?


11-10-2007, 12:11 AM
I'm in, thanks for the post!

But I'm just wondering, could there be problems with the money all coming in at the same time?

11-10-2007, 12:13 AM
Thats the point of this, to see if the server can handle enormous traffic or not to avoid it crashing on Dec. 16th.

11-10-2007, 12:21 AM
The originator of the root post is shown as an Admin of this site, and he says (as indicated in the post) that Justine Lam of the official campaign said it would be OK.

And, if the servers can't keep up, it will show us where we need to beef up capability. Better to find out now than on December 16 when the system is likely to be challenged by larger donations.

This period is fairly late in the day, so the bulk of the larger donations will already have been made. Plus, there is now an incentive for contributors to make an additional contribution, like a restaurant server "upselling" you by enticing you to buy dessert.

11-10-2007, 12:37 AM
Got it, sounds good. :) I just had a bit of concern about all the money actually getting there.

11-10-2007, 05:22 AM
Thats the point of this, to see if the server can handle enormous traffic or not to avoid it crashing on Dec. 16th.

It handled November 5th just fine.

11-10-2007, 07:04 PM
OK, then use the Shot for a new ONE HOUR NUMBER OF CONTRIBUTORS as your motivation!

11-10-2007, 09:02 PM
stupid idea.

There is no way we will reach the load that was reached on Nov. 5th. Plain and simple.

Ok, well putting the uselessness aside, it is also harmful since with such small donations it will all be eat up in Credit card fees. Fees represent a higher percentage the lower the amount. Not cool.

Useless and also a inefficient use of resources.

All that aside I will be donating $100 :) :) :)

11-10-2007, 09:45 PM
Encouraging ADDITIONAL small donations in no way will decrease the amount of larger donations. If anything, an increased donation rate will only increase enthusiasm and spur additional donations large and small.

The question about transaction costs has been asked and answered. The fixed flat fee component is only about 25 cents (on top of the percentage fee that applies to all donations, large or small) so the suggested $10 small donations are net winners. And Justine Lam from the official campaign is supportive of this effort.

So why not take your $100 planned donation and split it: contribute $90 once, before 7PM (Eastern), and then make an additional $10 donation between 7-8 PM? How could it hurt? And this way the count of donations will increase--your own individual impact is doubled--and the possibility that a newsworthy one hour record is reached is more likely. The overall transaction cost will go by only a negligible 25 cents.

11-10-2007, 10:18 PM
Better yet, give the $100 while everyone's giving 10. ;)

11-10-2007, 10:45 PM
I think this is a bad idea. 7-8PM is the end of the day.

Sunday is usually a relatively slow news day. If the Nov11 contributions are huge in the early hours it could get coverage from news outlets tomorrow spurring even more donations. Lumping a whole bunch of donations in at the end of the day won't make any news broadcasts. You want to test the system or go for the most in an hour? Every donate at midnight.

Oh and this whole point is moot. There's only 2000 Nov11 subscribers. On Nov5 there were 40,000 donors in a 24 hour period. Over 1600 per hour. It's unlikely that Nov5 donors would break that rate even for a single hour - meaning the test won't occur and the 'most donors in an hour' record won't be set (not that anyone has ever tracked that number anyway).

11-10-2007, 11:07 PM
It handled November 5th just fine.

Dec 16th is going to dwarf Nov 5th in the same way that our 4.2 million in a day dwarfed the 1.2 million in the last week of Q2.