PPP to release NH Poll in 10 minutes

[jersdream]

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10 minutes or so and we'll have the not terribly enthralling New Hampshire poll out

[pulp8721]

Good news is Ron probably remains in 2nd place. Question is by how much, and how far is Huntsman back?

[Romulus]

!!!

[Erazmus]

Interesting.

[bluesc]

It better not show Huntsman in 2nd or I will move to my lonely corner of the world and grow old eating fresh mangos and drinking coconut water.

[jersdream]

It better not show Huntsman in 2nd or I will move to my lonely corner of the world and grow old eating fresh mangos and drinking coconut water.

I would join.

[Endthefednow]

Ron will be in 4th :(

[eok321]

Prediction

Romney 39
Ron 20
Huntsman 15

[Agorism]

Hopefully it being uninteresting means no Huntsman surge.

[ghengis86]

It better not show Huntsman in 2nd or I will move to my lonely corner of the world and grow old eating fresh mangos and drinking coconut water.


I would join.

room for one more?

[zerosdontcount]

If it's not terribly enthralling then is should be similar to the previous polls.. no?

[happyphilter]

I don't like the way this poll sounds...

[ghengis86]

dup post

[Cyberbrain]

I'd think "not terribly enthralling" means nothing really bad for us?


It better not show Huntsman in 2nd or I will move to my lonely corner of the world and grow old eating fresh mangos and drinking coconut water.

Hey that doesn't sound too bad ;)

[Epic]

Not terribly enthralling seems like a 4-5 Ron Paul lead over Huntsman, but Romney likely with a 15-20 margin over Paul.

[robert9712000]

Im more optomostic

Romney 28
Ron 23
huntsman 16

[zerosdontcount]

But then it would be enthralling because huntsman jumped 5 points...

[happyphilter]

If he comes in 3rd the campaign better panic and get their shit rolling. I doubt calling people 6 times a day is a winning tactic.

[Tyler_Durden]

Hopefully it being uninteresting means no Huntsman surge.

The Huntsman surge poll will be released tomorrow at 11am and will be carried far and wide all day Monday and all day Tuesday.
Just my cynical opinion.

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

It better not show Huntsman in 2nd or I will move to my lonely corner of the world and grow old eating fresh mangos and drinking coconut water.

lol I have no doubt that most people here have a plan B of getting lost in the jungles of somewhere. lol

[green73]

https://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls

[freedomforever!]

Final results:
Mitt Romney 35%
Ron Paul 18%
Jon Huntsman 16%

[dskalkowski]

I want to be optimistic but, I'm a bit more pessimistic with my thoughts. I'm thinking:

Romney: 30
Paul:20
Huntsman: 19

[green73]

New Hampshire: Romney 35, Paul 18, Huntsman 16, Gingrich 12, Santorum 11, Roemer 3, Perry 1:

[Evilfox]

lol I have no doubt that most people here have a plan B of getting lost in the jungles of somewhere. lol


Always have a plan B.

[eok321]

Romney 35, Paul 18, Huntsman 16, Gingrich 12, Santorum 11, Roemer 3, Perry 1:

[pauliticalfan]

How is that not enthralling? Huntsman is molesting us.

[MikeStanart]

New Hampshire: Romney 35, Paul 18, Huntsman 16, Gingrich 12, Santorum 11, Roemer 3, Perry 1

[centure7]

It better not show Huntsman in 2nd or I will move to my lonely corner of the world and grow old eating fresh mangos and drinking coconut water.

No Free State Project for you?

[AlexG]

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
New Hampshire: Romney 35, Paul 18, Huntsman 16, Gingrich 12, Santorum 11, Roemer 3, Perry 1: tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

[UK4Paul]

New Hampshire: Romney 35, Paul 18, Huntsman 16, Gingrich 12, Santorum 11, Roemer 3, Perry 1:

[bluesc]

Roemer at 3%, Perry at 1%. LMAO.

[jkob]

Romney must still be solidly in 1st place and no Huntsman surge

[NC5Paul]

I predict

Willard: 36
Ron: 23
Cuntsman: 17
Frothy: 11
n00t: 8
Roemer: 2
Derrrrrrrrrp: -47

EDIT: not TOO far off

[muh_roads]

I hate the media. On our tail...

[UK4Paul]

Now we'll find out what DIEBOLD can do to us.

[Feelgood]

New Hampshire: Romney 35, Paul 18, Huntsman 16, Gingrich 12, Santorum 11, Roemer 3, Perry 1

[StudentForPaul08]

Roemer at 3%, Perry at 1%. LMAO.

ROEMER IS SURGING!!!!

[blazeKing]

PPP now trying to be like CNN and create a false surge

[Evilfox]

Mitt Romney continues to be headed for a comfortable win in New Hampshire. PPP's final poll there finds him with 35% to 18% for Ron Paul, 16% for Jon Huntsman, 12% for Newt Gingrich, 11% for Rick Santorum, 3% for Buddy Roemer, and 1% for Rick Perry.


=x

[bluesc]

Damn.


ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Romney has most committed NH supporters, among those totally decided lead expands to 40-19 over Paul: tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

[agorist ninja]

Goooooooooooooo Buddy! LOL!

And here comes 40 pages of needless and, quite frankly, pathetic panic.

We're a movement. We will decide this entire election, whether Ron wins or not. Start acting like it.

[Evilfox]

LOL Romney has most committed NH supporters, among those totally decided lead expands to 40-19 over Paul. I am going to say they are not committed but "JUST OK" with him as their choice

[Feelgood]

Huntsman's gained 7 points on Paul in the last 10 days, very good chance he ends up finishing 2nd


Paul's NH support is declining, 21% to 18%, Huntsman's is rising, 12% to 16%

WTF?

[Feeding the Abscess]

In all seriousness, if Perry is still allowed on the stage in debates, Roemer should be there too.

[pauliticalfan]

Huntsman=Santorum.

W.T.F.

[bluesc]

How the hell does this keep happening?


ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Huntsman's gained 7 points on Paul in the last 10 days, very good chance he ends up finishing 2nd: tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m


It will kill me if Ron finishes third again.

[Muwahid]

We all knew it was gonna happen, the hutnsman surge. these are like unstoppable. i REALLY hope he doesnt get another 3rd place

[ghengis86]

ppppollsPublicPolicyPolling





Huntsman is a lot more popular than Paul and also has a lot more 2nd choice support: http://tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

[Feelgood]

Huntsman is a lot more popular than Paul and also has a lot more 2nd choice support

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!

[UK4Paul]

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Huntsman is a lot more popular than Paul and also has a lot more 2nd choice support: tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

Talk about rubbing it in :(

[pauliticalfan]

We keep losing this shit in the last several days.

[kill the banks]

get into overtime mode and bring this Rothschild clone down

[abruzz0]

Huntsman will finish ahead of Ron with a combination of his froth-like late surge in the polls and help from the Diebold democracy machines. It's just too obvious at this point. Pray for a 3rd place finish, because it might end up worse than that.

[m72mc]

Prepare for third place again, to avoid disappointment, the fix is likely in again.

Just hang in there the process is a long one.

[sailingaway]

We have to get out that Huntsman said he would sign NDAA and was open to a land invasion of Iran, etc.

[TomtheTinker]

Not good

[ghengis86]

ppppollsPublicPolicyPolling





Huntsman 5th among actual Republicans in NH, but winning the Obama vote pushes him to 3rd overall: http://tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

[UK4Paul]

Goooooooooooooo Buddy! LOL!

And here comes 40 pages of needless and, quite frankly, pathetic panic.

We're a movement. We will decide this entire election, whether Ron wins or not. Start acting like it.

http://www.toonpool.com/user/355/files/panic_35635.jpg

[kill the banks]

just focus and fight for liberty

[Evilfox]

PPP trying to Provoke us!

[sailingaway]

We keep losing this shit in the last several days.

Unvetted candidates given a media surge at the last second. Get out that he would sign NDAA and he was open to a land invasion of Iran, and that he is pro TARP bailout of the banks, naturally, since his first fundraiser was at Lady Rothschild's estate.

[bluesc]

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Huntsman 5th among actual Republicans in NH, but winning the Obama vote pushes him to 3rd overall: http://tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

So he's relying on Democrat support? They are famously unreliable.

[Cyberbrain]

40% or more of the electorate on Tuesday will be non-Republican and Huntsman's greatest strength is with Obama voters, among whom he gets 35% to 25% for Paul

Just reconfirms what's already been said on the forums many times. There are a lot of left/indy voters in NH who think Huntsman is the best choice because he hasn't gotten any scrutiny. Guess the campaign wants to just try to beat him with brute force now and save the funds for SC

[happyphilter]

Campaign better have a strategy to boost us these last few days. A TV ad or something. It's looking like Iowa all over again.

[kill the banks]

We have to get out that Huntsman said he would sign NDAA and was open to a land invasion of Iran, etc.

This

[Nate]

Live free or die? Yeah, I guess NH is considering death.

[RPsupporterAtHeart]

%44 of voters don't have the same values as Ron Paul.

WOW, Live free or die hard eh.

[ghengis86]

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Santorum could very well finish 5th in New Hampshire...not a huge bump from Iowa: http://tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

[opinionatedfool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8SsxLUjYCA

This wouldn't have to be pushed as a Ron Paul support ad, but it could help take Huntsman's numbers down if it went viral.

[ghengis86]

crosstabs

And here's your 300+ pages of New Hampshire crosstabs if you want to take a deep dive: http://tinyurl.com/6r6wh84

[sailingaway]

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Huntsman is a lot more popular than Paul and also has a lot more 2nd choice support: tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

Talk about rubbing it in :(

that is because of that smear supposed Ron Paul supporter video with the brand new account that was first thing tweeted to the Huntsmans. Favorables were switched before that, because of Huntsman's nasty tv ads on Ron.

[Paulite]

thes epolls are released so the actual rigging dont look so obvious.

[tbone717]

Just reconfirms what's already been said on the forums many times. There are a lot of left/indy voters in NH who think Huntsman is the best choice because he hasn't gotten any scrutiny. Guess the campaign wants to just try to beat him with brute force now and save the funds for SC

There are also a alot of center to center left indys that will vote for Huntsman because he is the least conservative of all the candidates. The thought being if a Repub wins the general, it might as well be a left of center one.

[No Free Beer]

we'll finish 3rd

[AngryCanadian]

we'll finish 3rd
I say second.

[QWDC]

Democrat crossover support.
Isn't that what lost Paul Iowa? They actually didn't show up as much as people thought they would. Not that NH is Iowa...

[Bruno]

How do people not see through that phony?

[Feeding the Abscess]

Democrat crossover support.
Isn't that what lost Paul Iowa? They actually didn't show up as much as people thought they would. Not that NH is Iowa...

No, we got almost 0% of the undecided vote. Almost all of it went to Santorum or Romney.

[opinionatedfool]

I say second.

Either way, Huntsman won't make it very long.

[brendan.orourke]

2nd place is a must, an absolute must.

[Sublyminal]

No, we got almost 0% of the undecided vote. Almost all of it went to Santorum or Romney.


Jesus, man... this shit is becoming a circus show. NH is gonna let us all down.

[pauliticalfan]

What keeps causing this collapse in the final week? It's so discouraging.

[ross11988]

What keeps causing this collapse in the final week? It's so discouraging.

The media

[AngryCanadian]

What keeps causing this collapse in the final week? It's so discouraging.
Thanks to those Supporter Ads On Youtube.

[Lord Xar]

Keep in mind this poll does not take into account ron awesome debate performances

Saturday and sundays debate is not included.

[sailingaway]

What keeps causing this collapse in the final week? It's so discouraging.

media pushes of someone never vetted so assumed perfect.

So we have to get out how great Ron is, and separately, not 'from a RP supporter' the facts about Huntsman saying he'd sign NDAA, be open to a land invasion of Iran, and favored Tarp bank bailouts.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Either way, Huntsman won't make it very long.

Neither will Paul if he falls below 2nd in New Hampshire...

[Paulite]

poll is fake

[Sublyminal]

We need to get some ads out there showing people the truth about Huntsman.

[Paulite]

if ron paul comes in third..im quitting politics altogether.

[WD-NY]

Shit is not rigged. The RPForums was YELLING about the risk of a Huntsman surge weeks ago .... before the vote in Iowa.

Huntsman's team wrecked us with that false flag youtube smear campaign... and what did the campaign do?? Nothing.

The only thing they did do was send out 4 emails attacking Huntsman during the today's debate (which not only looks desperate but will have zero effect considering that it's less than 2 days before voting begins and the media has already established the "surge" narrative).

If I sound upset its because I am.... another "surge-stolen 3rd" is going to kill the grassroots spirit (at least among the 'realists') and make slow down the amount of money coming in... meanwhile, Huntsman will raise a few million following an 'expectations beating' 2nd place and continue campaigning (aka stealing independents from Ron is future caucus states).

[mport1]

poll is fake

Proof?

[Okie RP fan]

If Paul comes in less than second in New Hampshire, I'm afraid it'll be too hard to recover.

We need a solid second showing in New Hampshire.

It's too bad Iowa was stolen away from the media telling their mindless drones who was "surging."

[justatrey]

It's pretty bad when the mainstream media manipulation is so blatant that we are now able to predict what BS they're going to pull weeks ahead of time.

[Liberty Shark]

Rumor from friend in NH is Paul 17, Huntsman 11. Just a rumor.

[JK/SEA]

//

[blazeKing]

We'll get second, I won't freak out until new polls tomorrow...The RCP graph is good to us right now and they nailed 2008

[Okie RP fan]

Gosh... We need to really distance ourselves from Huntsman.

Phone from Home I guess is the best way a lot of us can help... The campaign really needs to kick it into high gear tomorrow.

[AllAboard]

It's going to be hard for Ron to compete in states without some support of core republicans...Even more difficult if there are people such as Huntsman taking much of the independent vote as well...Pretty much wipes out Paul's base of support.

Though I still believe that Ron's campaign is one of the most organized, and I believe that will show through eventually...Hopefully MUCH sooner than later

[Okie RP fan]

It truly does speak something to get a decently close third in Iowa, and be holding onto a second in New Hampshire (at the moment) with virtually no media help.

So, our efforts are doing something.

[ShaneEnochs]

poll is fake

What is it, polls are real when they're favorable to us, and fake when they're not?

[opinionatedfool]

Stop freaking out and spread and thumbs up this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8SsxLUjYCA

[Cyberbrain]

RCP Average
Romney 40.2
Paul 20.8
Santorum 10.6
Huntsman 9.4
Gingrich 8.6

PPP
Romney 35 (-5.2)
Paul 18 (-2.8)
Santorum 11 (+0.4)
Huntsman 16 (+6.6)
Gingrich 12 (+3.4)

Though like someone else said, most important thing is that the polls don't take the debate into account.

[singe22]

Why dont you guys get it? While first place is nice its not going to happen just yet. The goal right now is to stay in these elections and prove all the naysayers saying that Ron Paul support is nothing more than a few hundred people that know how to spam online polls and stuff ballot boxes at straw polls. The attitude of american people is they need to see numbers. We have to stay in the race to show that our numbers are not just a mere few thousand or few hundred people in certain states.

Even if ron paul comes in third. And the difference between first and third is just a few thousand votes, it shows he is electable. After Iowa i have had people go out of their way to comment on how they where suprised to see how many votes he got, and that if he gets here (california) he could lock up their vote.

so our goal is to defeat the perception that there isnt any support and that Ron Paul supporters arent a few hundred radicals with mutiple identity complexes x1000. So our base needs to stay strong and last it out. I think South Carolina and maybe florida will be a let down of being in the top 3. But if we get double digits its no reason to stop.

I wont stop using the comparison of when our forefathers not just the big names but the freedom fighters, had little to no ammunition, no food and froze their asses off, they didnt throw down their muskets and go back to being king george's servant. All you have to do is hold onto your faith in and keep spreading the message, donate if and when you can to keep this fight going.

[mport1]

What is it, polls are real when they're favorable to us, and fake when they're not?

Yep. According to some people here.

[bluemarkets]

just curious how accurate PPP polling was just before the iowa caucuses?

Any data on their numbers just before the caucus?

[ShaneEnochs]

just curious how accurate PPP polling was just before the iowa caucuses?

Any data on their numbers just before the caucus?

Who cares? We need to run like we're 10 points behind Huntsman.

[J_White]

Prediction for Primary results
Romney 30
Huntsman 25
Paul 20
margin of error +/- 2

[AngryCanadian]

just curious how accurate PPP polling was just before the iowa caucuses?
Any data on their numbers just before the caucus?

There poll before the voting on iowa caucuses wasn't accurate the PPP poll showed Ron Paul first yet that didn't quite happen as they showed romney came in first Ron Paul third place.

[opinionatedfool]

Keep in mind this poll does not take into account ron awesome debate performances

Saturday and sundays debate is not included.

Really? Are you sure?

[AngryCanadian]

Prediction for Primary results
Romney 30
Huntsman 25
Paul 20
margin of error +/- 2

Huh i doubt that heres my Prediction for the Primary night
Romney 29%
Paul 24%
Huntsman 19%

[Sublyminal]

Prediction for Primary results
Romney 30
Huntsman 25
Paul 20
margin of error +/- 2


I don't like your prediction. It scares me.

[AngryCanadian]

Really? Are you sure?
He is correct Jon didn't speak very much at the debate that's because the media will bump him up.

[jersdream]

PPP surveyed 1,771 likely Republican primary voters on January 7
th and 8th. The margin of error for the survey is +/-2.3%. This poll was not paid for or authorized by any
campaign or political organization

This does include a lot of post-debate interviews. Stop lying.

[UK4Paul]

Why dont you guys get it? While first place is nice its not going to happen just yet. The goal right now is to stay in these elections and prove all the naysayers saying that Ron Paul support is nothing more than a few hundred people that know how to spam online polls and stuff ballot boxes at straw polls. The attitude of american people is they need to see numbers. We have to stay in the race to show that our numbers are not just a mere few thousand or few hundred people in certain states.

Even if ron paul comes in third. And the difference between first and third is just a few thousand votes, it shows he is electable. After Iowa i have had people go out of their way to comment on how they where suprised to see how many votes he got, and that if he gets here (california) he could lock up their vote.

so our goal is to defeat the perception that there isnt any support and that Ron Paul supporters arent a few hundred radicals with mutiple identity complexes x1000. So our base needs to stay strong and last it out. I think South Carolina and maybe florida will be a let down of being in the top 3. But if we get double digits its no reason to stop.

I wont stop using the comparison of when our forefathers not just the big names but the freedom fighters, had little to no ammunition, no food and froze their asses off, they didnt throw down their muskets and go back to being king george's servant. All you have to do is hold onto your faith in and keep spreading the message, donate if and when you can to keep this fight going.

^^ Great post.

[UK4Paul]

And just to keep it in perspective... Ron IS still 2nd in this poll ;)

[pauliticalfan]

And just to keep it in perspective... Ron IS still 2nd in this poll ;)

And Santorum was still in 3rd in the Iowa poll. Momentum/trajectory matters more than actual numbers. Hence why there is reason to be on alert.

[jersdream]

And Santorum was still in 3rd in the Iowa poll. Momentum/trajectory matters more than actual numbers. Hence why there is reason to be on alert.

Right like usual. +rep

[wgadget]

When I'm feeling down...I think about how the Perry supporters feel.

LOL

[maxoutco]

You guys, what I don't understand is Paul losing support. Does this mean Paul has soft support. We need to find the root of this cause.

[blazeKing]

They poll too many dems like in Iowa...someone had to say it ;)

[RDM]

You guys, what I don't understand is Paul losing support. Does this mean Paul has soft support. We need to find the root of this cause.

Here's the root. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/ron-paul-riding-momentum-in-nh-polls-reaches-out-to-undecided-voters/2012/01/08/gIQAzTaBkP_blog.html

[fc2008]

And just to keep it in perspective... Ron IS still 2nd in this poll ;)

Huntsman can easily get 20% of the vote and take 2nd place. Ron may or may not hold 3rd with 15%.

It won't be hard for the press to pound Ron down to mid-low teens tomorrow merely by repeating "Huntsman surging".

It might be as stunning to watch as Santorum's rise in Iowa.

Just for a bit of context, the press repeatedly said Ron's support was "collapsing" in Iowa when one poll should him down 1% point.

[EndTheECB]

You guys, what I don't understand is Paul losing support. Does this mean Paul has soft support. We need to find the root of this cause.

I think it's because of the undecideds. Ron Paul supporters usually know ahead of time who they're gonna vote for. The more "loose", follow the stream - voters, go for the mediahype, whether it's Santorum, Romney or Huntsman. This group can only be persuaded through good debate or media performances, which, as we know, are rigged to Dr. Pauls disadvantage.

[mport1]

When I'm feeling down...I think about how the Perry supporters feel.

LOL

Perry has supporters?

[UK4Paul]

Here's the root. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/ron-paul-riding-momentum-in-nh-polls-reaches-out-to-undecided-voters/2012/01/08/gIQAzTaBkP_blog.html

Thanks for posting that. It's an excellent article. It seems like JOBS and FOREIGN POLICY are a sticking point for some... at least in that town.

[BucksforPaul]

Wow, the trolls are out in full force tonight and are trying their best to discourage the grassroots. Here is a message for your handlers: We will never quit believing in our mission to restore America no matter what happens on Tuesday, next month, or even next year. We are not going anywhere and our ideas are winning and once a person grasps onto our philosophy they rarely let go.

[ord33]

Wow, NH voters really don't like the "Southern" candidates. In the favorability ratings the only people with a negative rating are Paul, Gingrich, and way way down there is Rick Perry. Romney and Santorum (NE) both have positive favorables along with Huntsman (West).

Yet, in the South - the state of South Carolina is okay with MA liberal Mitt Romney and Catholic Rick Santorum.

Surprising a little that the Southern region doesn't seem to hold a similar bias like we tend to.

[ord33]

Question in poll: Do you think that Jon Huntsman has the same
values as you, or not?

He has the same values 34%
He does not 28%
Not sure 37%

Jon Huntsman has 37% of voters not even sure what he stands for. Which is by far the highest "not sure" total of all the candidates. Just goes to show that it is yet another non-vetted media push.

[wgadget]

Perry has supporters?

Yeah. All three of them can be found circle jerking at RedState.com.

[wgadget]

Dang that Washington Post story said only 15% were still undecided.

MAJOR DISCREPANCY, eh?

[schiffheadbaby]

Yeah. All three of them can be found circle jerking at RedState.com.

hey, I thought redstate had at least 50 readers.

Those guys think Rick Perry is just one surge, one great debate away from a comeback. His statement about invading Iraq again might be that great debate performance or is that too much even for diehard neocons?

[plandr]

I doubt Huntsman is at 16%. This will come down to if the media pushes this poll tomorrow or now.

Also, it will come down to what Suffolk shows us tomorrow to dampen it as well.

[jersdream]

They didn't mention PPP last week when Paul was in first at 20%....so if they show PPP tomorrow for Huntsman 16%...we know officially bullshit how they pick and choose which polls they push.

[wgadget]

hey, I thought redstate had at least 50 readers.

Those guys think Rick Perry is just one surge, one great debate away from a comeback. His statement about invading Iraq again might be that great debate performance or is that too much even for diehard neocons?

The real diehards over there think he's right. But most think it was a mistake.

[fc2008]

I doubt Huntsman is at 16%. This will come down to if the media pushes this poll tomorrow or now.

Also, it will come down to what Suffolk shows us tomorrow to dampen it as well.

The Youtube "ad" was the push. Any media hype now just serves as a rally for the recently decided to get out and vote.

Hopefully Ron can hold on to 3rd at this point.

[walt]

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Huntsman is a lot more popular than Paul and also has a lot more 2nd choice support: tinyurl.com/7tpzo7m

Talk about rubbing it in :(

He did spend alot more time on the ground in NH (like Santorum did in Iowa) instead of focusing on national TV appearances. We'll see if history repeats or not....

[Lord Xar]

Wow, the trolls are out in full force tonight and are trying their best to discourage the grassroots. Here is a message for your handlers: We will never quit believing in our mission to restore America no matter what happens on Tuesday, next month, or even next year. We are not going anywhere and our ideas are winning and once a person grasps onto our philosophy they rarely let go.

This...

[AngryCanadian]

The Youtube "ad" was the push. Any media hype now just serves as a rally for the recently decided to get out and vote.

Hopefully Ron can hold on to 3rd at this point.
Which ad? i can counter it on youtube.

[Student Of Paulism]

Yeah. All three of them can be found circle jerking at RedState.com.

Lmao...

Why is that idiot still even in the race? I mean, holy shit, he is doing awful and even behind Roemer now, and a non-factor in SC, so how much more embarrassment does he need? All Perry is doing is making himself look ridiculous and eating up valuable time in the debates that Ron (and to be fair, the rest) could be using. He should have dropped out with Bachmann, at least she had the sense to do so when she realized she had no chance, yet this tool stays in with even worse support than her, and turns the debates into f'ing comedy hour last night, with the 'i can't remember the 3 departments' joke :rolleyes: I didn't even find that funny whatsoever, it was just really pathetic, watching him with that stupid face of his, looking exactly like GWB..and i have a very deep sense of humor.

This guy needs to go away already.

And you know what is fucked up too? I remember listening to Gary Johnson on AJ recently, and he was saying how they wouldnt let him be in the debates cuz he was polling too low, yet during sometimes he was actually higher than Frothy was. However, this stooge is even doing worse than Roemer hes allowed to be in them!? Pfff...Gary has more brain cells in his thumb, then this tard has in his head.

[mport1]

Lmao...

Why is that idiot still even in the race? I mean, holy shit, he is doing awful and even behind Roemer now, and a non-factor in SC, so how much more embarrassment does he need? All Perry is doing is making himself look ridiculous and eating up valuable time in the debates that Ron (and to be fair, the rest) could be using. He should have dropped out with Bachmann, at least she had the sense to do so when she realized she had no chance, yet this tool stays in with even worse support than her, and turns the debates into f'ing comedy hour last night, with the 'i can't remember the 3 departments' joke :rolleyes: I didn't even find that funny whatsoever, it was just really pathetic, watching him with that stupid face of his, looking exactly like GWB..and i have a very deep sense of humor.

This guy needs to go away already.

His massive ego won't let him drop out yet. He probably still thinks he can win.

[gyrmnix]

When I'm feeling down...I think about how the Perry supporters feel.

LOL

I wouldn't laugh at them. That's the position we were in in 2007.

[Badger Paul]

Something else about the PPP poll, only 10 percent of respondents were ages 18-29. The polling skewed towards those ages 45 and up (at least 66 percent). If youth turnout is well above that mark (say 15 percent) we'll be okay.

[WD-NY]

Question in poll: Do you think that Jon Huntsman has the same
values as you, or not?

He has the same values 34%
He does not 28%
Not sure 37%

Jon Huntsman has 37% of voters not even sure what he stands for. Which is by far the highest "not sure" total of all the candidates. Just goes to show that it is yet another non-vetted media push.

That is ABSURD.

To everyone thinking about facebook ads, my advice is to play the Huntsman = pro-Iran-war card HARD.

[Student Of Paulism]

Something else about the PPP poll, only 10 percent of respondents were ages 18-29. The polling skewed towards those ages 45 and up (at least 66 percent). If youth turnout is well above that mark (say 15 percent) we'll be okay.

Mmm..true dat. Wonder why it was skewed so much in the direction of the older folk.

Definitely reassuring though :D

[slamhead]

His massive ego won't let him drop out yet. He probably still thinks he can win.

No the establishment probably asked him to stay in just so Romney does not look like the biggest empty head in the debates.

[Peace&Freedom]

Unless another round of vote rigging is in store, again to Diebold the results to match the trend of the worst polls, I don't think Huntsman will overtake Paul. The counter narrative coming out of Tuesday will be Paul in the mid twenties, Huntsman in the mid teens, Romney's collapse to the low 30's. A good scenario for a fast exit of Santorum and Huntsman from the race in the next 10 days following. A repeat 20's performance by Paul will embolden the message that the emerging libertarian quadrant of the GOP is real, growing, and will not go away.

[tuggy24g]

I think we should be fine for a second place finish. There is no way a surge can come in one day. Most people made up there mind already and most people are independents in NH. Ron Paul does best with them so we should be cool unless some poll comes out that said Huntsman 18 and Ron Paul 18-16 then we can worry. Just keep getting the word out in your area and we should be fine.

[unknown]

It is what it is, get busy. Donate if you can. Phone from home.

And for the love of something, start spamming facebook, twitter, comment sections on articles, youtube videos, call radio talk shows in NH, lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can condense the following to something like:


Huntsman drastically increased spending after saying he wouldn’t. He supported both TARP and the stimulus. Threatened his state with a health care mandate. Flip flopped on cap and trade. Tried to create a state level Fannie Mae Freddie Mac in the Utah Housing Corp.

Wrote letters of appreciation to both Obama and Clinton...

Anyone being bankrolled by the Rothschilds cant be good for America.

As Governor, Huntsman has written what can only be described as “over-the-top Love Letters” to President Obama and former President Bill Clinton in 2009. “You are a remarkable leader…and it has been a great honor getting to know you,” Huntsman wrote to President Obama. “I have enormous regard for your experience, sense of history and brilliant analysis of world events. Please save some time for me when I’m next in New York,”

Huntsman wrote to former President Clinton. “I must report that Sec. Clinton has won the hearts and minds of the State Dept. bureaucracy — no easy task. And after watching her in action, I can see why. She is well-read, hard working, personable and has even more charisma than her husband! It’s an honor to work with her.”

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Huntsman’s proposed a cigarette tax hike from $0.70 to $3.00 per pack in order to balance the budget.

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As a candidate for Governor, Jon Huntsman wrote that he believed that “government has grown too quickly…for example, over the past decade government spending has exceeded both inflation and population growth.” Candidate Huntsman proposed a spending cap “by constitutional amendment or otherwise”.

After taking office, Huntsman “proposed an annual average hike in spending of close to six percent in real per capita terms, which substantially outstrips personal income growth in Utah, and makes him one of the biggest spending Governors in the nation.”

By the end of 2006, Governor Huntsman had proposed the largest budget in state history.

In 2007, Governor Huntsman and the Utah Legislature took $1.75 billion in unexpected surpluses and tax revenue and dramatically increased state spending. Overall state spending increased by 17% for the year. Bob Bernick Jr. of the Deseret Morning News noted that if one were to add state funds spent from the previous fiscal year to the following year, then state government spending increased 35.6%. “Think about that for a moment,” he wrote. “State government has grown by more than ONE-THIRD in just two years.”

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In 2008, Governor Huntsman “announced a plan in his state budget proposal that would include $400 million in bond funding through the Utah Housing Corp. to buy mortgage-backed securities from Utah lenders.” The President of the Utah Housing Corporation at the time described the plan, which would “…essentially have the agency acting as the state's version of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.”

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Governor Huntsman said in 2009 that President Obama’s failed “stimulus” spending bill didn’t spend enough – it should have been a trillion dollars. Governor Huntsman also stated that “if I were in Congress, I probably would not have voted in favor because it didn't have enough stimulus and probably wasn't big enough to begin with.”

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Huntsman was also unequivocal in his backing of the Wall Street Bailout, or TARP, saying in a 2008 debate with his Democratic opponent that, “Do we need a rescue package? Do we need the federal government to backstop to the tune of $700 billion? I don't think there's any way around it. Congress is going to have to step in and do something.”

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Huntsman said “health care is a right,” and he once threatened insurance companies in Utah with adding mandates if they did not reduce the price of health insurance, saying that after a year of asking “If that doesn't work, then I think we're looking very realistically at an individual mandate in getting us to where I think we need to be.”

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Governor Huntsman has flip-flopped on cap and trade, stating on record supporting cap and trade. For example, Governor Huntsman was one of only two Republican Governors (the other was Arnold Schwarzenegger) to sign onto the Western Climate Initiative, which “is an alliance of states and provinces along the western edge of North America seeking to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and lay the groundwork for a regional cap and trade system.”

He defended cap-and-trade during a 2008 debate against his Democratic opponent as well, saying, “I do know this, whoever is elected on November 4th is going to move forward with a cap-and-trade program, and I think it’s better for us to be there early on with a model that works for coal-rich states as opposed to having something foisted upon us from those who don’t quite understand the economics.”

Since returning to the United States from China, Governor Huntsman has said that cap-and-trade “hasn’t worked.”

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Governor Huntsman created a “minimum wage working group” in 2005 and after the working group detailed its findings, namely that increasing the minimum wage would increase the salaries of minimum wage workers (and result in higher costs for small businesses), Governor Huntsman lobbied Utah’s Congressional delegation to urge them to support a federal minimum wage increase.

[Diurdi]

Huntsman pro-NDAA, pro-indefinite detention.

[maxoutco]

Something else about the PPP poll, only 10 percent of respondents were ages 18-29. The polling skewed towards those ages 45 and up (at least 66 percent). If youth turnout is well above that mark (say 15 percent) we'll be okay.

Ahhhhhh, where is that buddy system to gotv for the youth.