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DamianTV
01-08-2012, 09:21 AM
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/01/08/069204/leaked-memo-says-apple-provides-backdoor-to-governments


"In a tweet early this morning, cybersecurity researcher Christopher Soghoian pointed to an internal memo of India's Military Intelligence that has been liberated by hackers and posted on the Net. The memo suggests that, "in exchange for the Indian market presence" mobile device manufacturers, including RIM, Nokia, and Apple (collectively defined in the document as "RINOA") have agreed to provide backdoor access on their devices. The Indian government then "utilized backdoors provided by RINOA" to intercept internal emails of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, a U.S. government body with a mandate to monitor, investigate and report to Congress on 'the national security implications of the bilateral trade and economic relationship' between the U.S. and China. Manan Kakkar, an Indian blogger for ZDNet, has also picked up the story and writes that it may be the fruits of an earlier hack of Symantec. If Apple is providing governments with a backdoor to iOS, can we assume that they have also done so with Mac OS X?"

Anyone still think they are not being watched? Last time they came after the Jews because they had no Privacy, who do you think they will come after this time, welfare recipients? How about all the Ron Paul supporters?

ghengis86
01-08-2012, 09:40 AM
Not being watched? Lol. Every byte of data goes through the NSA, is archieved on government databases, can be tapped in real time and is anything but secure.

The operating systems have back doors built in, but the Feds can even get their own room at ATT to divert and spy on data streams while they are being passed through networks.

I gave up thinking there was any semblance of privacy on the web, on mobile devices and pretty much anywhere else besides my own mind.

islather
01-08-2012, 09:47 AM
I wouldn't count on your mind being safe either

Kluge
01-08-2012, 10:53 AM
You know what's funny...? It takes so long for these corporate-gov't intrusions on privacy to be exposed - and you can bet there's much more going on than what's already exposed - that it seems corporations have far more privacy than citizens. Typical citizens are forced to be transparent -- any time your voice is being streamed live, whether it's allegedly encrypted or not, the gov't probably has a way to listen in without much trouble. Corporations, OTOH, do so much communication on their own private networks, it's like they're their own little country.

donnay
01-08-2012, 11:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZPBUl-y6rI&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDzbr-Yc-kg&feature=related

Danke
01-08-2012, 01:43 PM
I have nothing to hide.

The One
01-08-2012, 01:44 PM
Generally, when backdoor is provided, santorum is produced.

ZanZibar
01-08-2012, 01:52 PM
Corporate-government collusion. Gotta love it, eh?

Uriel999
01-08-2012, 01:53 PM
Generally, when backdoor is provided, santorum is produced.

Zing!

Man so I just finished up reading 1984 and Animal Farm yesterday....sad that in so many ways Orwell was right about our tyranical present and future. Even with war now 1984 might as well be true.

Bosco Warden
01-08-2012, 11:24 PM
I have nothing to hide.

Not even your stupidity?

Shameless.

The One
01-08-2012, 11:38 PM
Not even your stupidity?

Shameless.


Danke was probably joking. I learned today that RPF has a sarcasm font...bold italics. We should spread the word.

squarepusher
01-08-2012, 11:41 PM
is Ubuntu linux safe?

american.swan
01-08-2012, 11:50 PM
is Ubuntu linux safe?

It could be the safest....or the weakest....good question. But in this case, you can download the source code and look for yourself. :) Can't do that with Apple or Windows, or Blackberry.....Android is open sourced...or is it?

american.swan
01-08-2012, 11:52 PM
Wikipedia===
An attempt to plant a backdoor in the Linux kernel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel), exposed in November 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003), showed how subtle such a code change can be.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdoor_(computing)#cite_note-2) In this case, a two-line change appeared to be a typographical error, but actually gave the caller to the sys_wait4 function root access (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser) to the system.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdoor_(computing)#cite_note-3)

american.swan
01-08-2012, 11:55 PM
MAYBE this would work?

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/retroshare-secure-communications-with-friends.html

american.swan
01-08-2012, 11:58 PM
I don't find this shocking. Since 9/11 all US companies starting with email, gmail, yahoo, hotmail, hushmail have all had to allow government backdoors. India wanted backdoors into Blackberry, but ONLY blackberry? Not likely. Windows, Mac, blackberry...they're all wide open to the governments world wide.

Web communications? Email is basically a digital post card.

I should start using Ubuntu again.

Danke
01-10-2012, 09:19 AM
Danke was probably joking. I learned today that RPF has a sarcasm font...bold italics. We should spread the word.

He's a little slow.

PastaRocket848
01-10-2012, 09:48 AM
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/01/08/069204/leaked-memo-says-apple-provides-backdoor-to-governments



Anyone still think they are not being watched? Last time they came after the Jews because they had no Privacy, who do you think they will come after this time, welfare recipients? How about all the Ron Paul supporters?

FWIW this has been public knowledge for a long time. Engadget had a story on it a long time ago. If you think that's bad, you should see what you have to do to sell a device or offer a service in China.

PastaRocket848
01-10-2012, 09:52 AM
is Ubuntu linux safe?

not if you don't know how to use it. linux is stable, and safe in terms of viruses and what not (thanks to virtually nonexistent market share it's not a target). however, all linux distros are more "open" than a commercial os. basically, they don't try to save you from yourself. it's great for guys that know what chmod does, not so much for people who don't. windows is the exact opposite: a rare earth magnet for viruses though rather "safe" in terms of the user mucking up settings (annoying popups let you know any time you change anything important, and you simply cant do very much on a low level).

osx is the nirvana in between linux and windows. buy a mac and be done with it. there is no good reason to use windows outside of an enterprise environment that requires it, and linux isn't for you if you're asking that question.

papitosabe
01-10-2012, 10:09 AM
I saw a news cast on a major network stating that the CIA could listen to conversations if a phone is in the area...so even if you're not talking to someone on your phone, you can still be tapped and heard...only way to keep it from that is to take out the battery...sounds bogus...anyone heard of that?

Danke
01-10-2012, 10:12 AM
I saw a news cast on a major network stating that the CIA could listen to conversations if a phone is in the area...so even if you're not talking to someone on your phone, you can still be tapped and heard...only way to keep it from that is to take out the battery...sounds bogus...anyone heard of that?

Yes, the can activate the mic in your phone with a battery installed. But I think they have to be fairly close by to do that.

speciallyblend
01-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Generally, when backdoor is provided, santorum is produced.

this time we get to add snotty mac users who also like backdoors, only applies to snotty mac users.

Domalais
01-10-2012, 12:26 PM
this time we get to add snotty mac users who also like backdoors, only applies to snotty mac users.

Most computer users who utilize their backdoors are mac users.