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RonRules
01-07-2012, 07:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c60sYEOlKlo

Cshelton21
01-07-2012, 07:26 PM
Might as well slipped black bags over thier heads to get the point across.

How long till the OWS and TeaParty unite? How long before this gets bloody?

Nikolaib
01-07-2012, 07:26 PM
I would love for a state to enact a law that wrongful arrest be made a criminal (Jailable) offence.

RonRules
01-07-2012, 07:28 PM
I would love for a state to enact a law that wrongful arrest be made a criminal (Jailable) offence.
Wrongful arrest IS criminal. I'm in California and it happened to me. We were in court for about two years and there was a settlement.

mosquitobite
01-07-2012, 07:30 PM
Might as well slipped black bags over thier heads to get the point across.

How long till the OWS and TeaParty unite? How long before this gets bloody?

This is exactly why they needed NDAA. They KNOW it is coming.

RickyJ
01-07-2012, 07:31 PM
Are these public places or private?

In public there is nothing wrong with speaking like this, in private places the property owner has the right to ask you to leave.

RonRules
01-07-2012, 07:37 PM
In public there is nothing wrong with speaking like this, in private places the property owner has the right to ask you to leave.

Not exactly, in California you ARE allowed to protest in a mall. However some mall cops are not informed. THIS video will be interesting to you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C6G3k9ScRA

The Binghamton Patriot
01-07-2012, 07:49 PM
we're right on the teetering point.

musicmax
01-07-2012, 08:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c60sYEOlKlo

No accident that the arresting officer looks like Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List.

QuickZ06
01-07-2012, 08:40 PM
WOW, any update on the people that got arrested?

aGameOfThrones
01-07-2012, 08:46 PM
Common as the event may be, it is a serious thing to arrest a citizen, and it is a more serious thing to search his person; and he who accomplishes it, must do so in conformity to the laws of the land. There are two reasons for this; one to avoid Bloodshed, and the other to preserve the liberty of the citizen. Obedience to law is the bond of society, and the Officer set to enforce the law are not exempt from its mandates. Town of Blacksburg v. beam, 104 S.C. 146, 88 S.E.441 (1916); Allen v state, 197 N.W. 808, 810-11(Wis. 1924)

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aGameOfThrones
01-07-2012, 08:56 PM
There should be an armed citizen squad with the people to keep the Peace, but I'm not sure if those people are pro-2nd amendment. It's hard to peacefully protest when you got armed government thugs doing whatever they want just because you aren't.

QueenB4Liberty
01-07-2012, 09:57 PM
Things are going to get worse. :(

Warrior_of_Freedom
01-07-2012, 10:34 PM
There should be an armed citizen squad with the people to keep the Peace, but I'm not sure if those people are pro-2nd amendment. It's hard to peacefully protest when you got armed government thugs doing whatever they want just because you aren't.I agree, having a weapon to protect yourself =/= violence, but cops will think twice about battering and pepper spraying everybody when they have guns to fight back with.

Davy Crockett
01-07-2012, 11:04 PM
“If you make peaceful revolution impossible you make violent revolution inevitable”
― John F. Kennedy

VoluntaryAmerican
01-07-2012, 11:52 PM
Buddy of mine got arrested at occupy philadelphia and they gave him

disorderly conduct

inciting a riot

no doubt the girl with the blue hair got the same.

Davy Crockett
01-08-2012, 12:03 AM
There should be an armed citizen squad with the people to keep the Peace, but I'm not sure if those people are pro-2nd amendment. It's hard to peacefully protest when you got armed government thugs doing whatever they want just because you aren't.

That is a good way to get a lot of innocent people killed. Read this book, it is only 80 or so pages in length.

THE POLITICS OF OBEDIENCE: THE DISCOURSE OF VOLUNTARY SERVITUDE

ÉTIENNE DE LA BOÉTIE

http://mises.org/rothbard/boetie.pdf


Interesting Footnote, #19.

Tolstoy writes:

Quote:
The situation of the oppressed should not be compared to the constraint
used directly by the stronger on the weaker, or by a greater
number on a smaller. Here, indeed it is the minority who oppress
the majority, thanks to a lie established ages ago by clever people,
in virtue of which men despoil each other. . . .

Then, after a long quote from La Boétie, Tolstoy concludes,

Quote:
It would seem that the workers, not gaining any advantage from the
restraint that is exercised on them, should at last realize the lie in
which they are living and free themselves in the simplest and easiest
way: by abstaining from taking part in the violence that is only
possible with their co-operation.

Leo Tolstoy, The Law of Love and the Law of Violence (New York: Rudolph
Field, 1948), pp. 42, 45.


Notice what Tolstoy is saying, the easiest way for us to remove ourselves from the heel of oppressive government is to simply walk away, not participate in, nor support the legitimacy of this government. This is exactly what I and others have been trying to get across to many of you for years now.

I do hope that Ron Paul wins, he is OUR LAST CHANCE before America becomes a full fledged police state. Talked with a friend who is highly placed in the U.S. government. I asked him point blank how serious is this new NDAA legislation. He told me that we are just one step away from from losing all of our liberties and that Obama is recruiting an army to use against all of us.

Don't believe me? Here is the link to the Army website where they are now recruiting internment specialists:
http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/legal-and-law-enforcement/internment-resettlement-specialist.html

There is a book written several years ago by Thomas Chittum, Civil War Two (pdf available on-line) that many of you should read.

Chittum writes, "America was born in blood." He should know because he is a combat hardened Viet Nam veteran. "Social, political and economic forces are pulling America apart and driving her toward a bloody conflict that may fracture the nation into several different countries," he said. "Riots, gangs, militias, exploding crime rates, massive immigration, rising unemployment, falling wages, these fuel the fires of war." He talks about nations versus empires. "Empires consist of peoples of different religions, languages, cultures, races and nationalities," he said. "Nations are dominated by one group that makes up a majority of the population. Nations are inherently stable while empires are always unstable."

If you look around the United States, we were a stable nation before 1965 with a population mostly of European and African citizens and mostly one religion. Today, we've imported 60 million people from areas so incompatible with American culture that we recoil at the horrors of female genital mutilation from Middle Easterners, polygamy of Hmong immigrants, honor killings from Asia, forced 13 year old girls into marriages and hundreds of different languages. "If you'll notice throughout history," he writes, "multiethnic empires break up in cataclysmic violence."

The former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia are classic examples of multiethnic empires that shattered in tribal violence. America will be no different, the federal government knows this and are preparing for it. My estimate is that they will only succeed in holding together the American empire a few more years before the country begins to break up in ethnic enclaves, and no amount of standing together singing Kumbaya is going to prevent inevitable. Stop listening to conspiracy theorists, turn off your TV, and start paying attention to the signs all around you.

aGameOfThrones
01-08-2012, 12:54 AM
That is a good way to get a lot of innocent people killed.

Why? Because the goverment hates the "right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"? You may be right, but sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand... and Hold!


Oh yeah...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkM7cdMgcEc

iGGz
01-08-2012, 01:19 AM
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Davy Crockett
01-08-2012, 02:20 AM
Why? Because the goverment hates the "right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"? You may be right, but sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand... and Hold!


Oh yeah...



J.T. Ready? You got to be joking. Here is a photo of him at the National Socialist Movement rally where he needed assistance from an undercover black police officer to protect him from a scrawny anti-fascist dope smoking hippy.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/picresized_1289776730_picresized_1289701680_cops%2 0111.jpg

Like I said, there are numb nuts out there who will eventually end up causing a lot of innocent people their lives when things become more serious.

Sullivan*
01-08-2012, 03:25 AM
It's increasingly obvious how many sheeple think the government is omnipotent and buy the line of "they're doing it for our safety" bullshit. Wake the fuck up!!!

dillo
01-08-2012, 04:31 AM
the police are lucky that this OWS is mainly leftists that hate guns, once the more constitutionally aware patriots take the streets, I fear it will be much more violent.

fatjohn
01-08-2012, 04:43 AM
Man I´m happy I wasn´t there. I can feel the blood flow to my hands and feet. Fight or flight mode.

aGameOfThrones
01-08-2012, 08:42 AM
J.T. Ready? You got to be joking. Here is a photo of him at the National Socialist Movement rally where he needed assistance from an undercover black police officer to protect him from a scrawny anti-fascist dope smoking hippy.


Like I said, there are numb nuts out there who will eventually end up causing a lot of innocent people their lives when things become more serious.

I don't know or care who the person is, but the video shows police and non police armed and no innocent people getting kill.


Most of the "numb-nuts" who cause trouble carry a badge and a gun.

pcosmar
01-08-2012, 09:47 AM
the police are lucky that this OWS is mainly leftists that hate guns, once the more constitutionally aware patriots take the streets, I fear it will be much more violent.

Leftists?

There are many here that bristle at the 2nd amendment solution.
I have however seen support voiced for OWS on militia sites, though they don't entirely agree with all of them they support their right to protest unmolested.

AGRP
01-08-2012, 01:27 PM
NY appears to be ULTRA nazi.

I worry for the safety of the brave hearts and souls who dare to exercise their right to free speech.

Butchie
01-08-2012, 01:37 PM
It would be nice if you guys could give some more background on these things, to just show police arresting someone and then say "oh look, police are evil" is not very fair. There are police abuses in America no doubt, but without knowing the whole story I am not going to jump on this "hate the cops" bandwagon, I have many friends who are police officers and I find it funny that people like us, who know all to well how videos and stories can be manipulated, will show one side of story like this. Tell me why the woman was arrested and show me all events leading up to it, then I can make an informed decision.

LibForestPaul
01-08-2012, 03:27 PM
Notice what Tolstoy is saying, the easiest way for us to remove ourselves from the heel of oppressive government is to simply walk away, not participate in, nor support the legitimacy of this government. This is exactly what I and others have been trying to get across to many of you for years now..

I really have no idea what you and others mean when you say "walk away". Here is a show for you:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/alaska-state-troopers/
I assure you that the masters will not let their slaves wander off. It aint going to happen.

kuckfeynes
01-08-2012, 03:36 PM
I don't know or care who the person is, but the video shows police and non police armed and no innocent people getting kill.


Most of the "numb-nuts" who cause trouble carry a badge and a gun.

QFT

Sublyminal
01-08-2012, 04:24 PM
This is exactly why they needed NDAA. They KNOW it is coming.


It will get bloody the minute they try to take away our guns.