Really, Fox? cited Ron's RCP polling average in NH at 12.6% REALLY -> 20.2%

[Esoteric]

During the Doug Wead video, they cited Ron's RCP polling average in NH at 12.6%. If you look at the RCP average, Ron is at 20.2%.

If you look closely, they averaged in polls from a month ago in order to drop Ron's average down, when in reality, he has more than doubled his support since then.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lgfQm9A0ag4

EDIT:

WOW. Watch this entire segment. I'm about to explode.

1) The entire time, the headline "Paul hasn't ruled out 3rd party bid" is flashing across the bottom.

2) They manipulate the New Hampshire polling numbers as well, to fit the narrative "look, Ron Paul isn't going anywhere in the polls, but hey, maybe he'll go third party"

3) ANOTHER headline underneath reads "Paul condemns CAMPAIGN ad calling Huntsman "Manchurian candidate".

PS - Sorry for posting this in Grassroots central. move to media spin.

[sailingaway]

Oh man...

I'll move it eventually.

[Tyler_Durden]

I wish the campaign would buy airtime with an ad that shows a compilation of blatant MSM lies.

[muh_roads]

Leave it here. Nobody reads media spin enough to send the wraith of hate e-mail that is required to clog servers.

[Bruno]

I wish the campaign would buy airtime with an ad that shows a compilation of blatant MSM lies.

Could make a good ad.

"The reason the status quo and media lie to you about Ron Paul is the reason you should vote for him."

[Esoteric]

just watched the whole video. i'm about to explode.

[CaptainAmerica]

military industrial complex

[CaptainAmerica]

During the Doug Wead video, they cited Ron's RCP polling average in NH at 12.6%. If you look at the RCP average, Ron is at 20.2%.

If you look closely, they averaged in polls from a month ago in order to drop Ron's average down, when in reality, he has more than doubled his support since then.

http://rpflix.com/4211

EDIT:

WOW. Watch this entire segment. I'm about to explode.

1) The entire time, the headline "Paul hasn't ruled out 3rd party bid" is flashing across the bottom.

2) They manipulate the New Hampshire polling numbers as well, to fit the narrative "look, Ron Paul isn't going anywhere in the polls, but hey, maybe he'll go third party"

3) ANOTHER headline underneath reads "Paul condemns CAMPAIGN ad calling Huntsman "Manchurian candidate".

PS - Sorry for posting this in Grassroots central. move to media spin.

the poll might be real. I looked at the video, it says "GOP" voters. Take into consideration that Ron pulls in lots of independents ,it looks like Fox is just looking at the "gop" voters and not an overall poll.

[LiveForHonortune]

Did anyone really not see this coming? I mean, it's fox news.

[Esoteric]

the poll might be real. I looked at the video, it says "GOP" voters. Take into consideration that Ron pulls in lots of independents ,it looks like Fox is just looking at the "gop" voters and not an overall poll.

The first one is correct.. It has him at 18%. Then, they say "this fits in with his Real Clear Politics average for New Hampshire Polls", and showing completely false number of 12.4%, when you can go to RealClearPolitics.com right now and see him at 20.4%.

[Danjlion7]

You know what was funny? Doug wished the fox news anchorman best of luck too. As in, good luck remaining relevant once Paul becomes the next president. Lol

[CaptainAmerica]

The first one is correct.. It has him at 18%. Then, they say "this fits in with his Real Clear Politics average for New Hampshire Polls", and showing completely false number of 12.4%, when you can go to RealClearPolitics.com right now and see him at 20.4%. did you not read the poll that said "Among GOP voters".............romney was at 20 percent.

[seapilot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZoXY7T4u4A

[FSP-Rebel]

They just did the polling run down again and said Paul's rolling average was 20.2%

[kill the banks]

serial hypocrisy the media ad

[Orwell]

Could make a good ad.

"The reason the status quo and media lie to you about Ron Paul is the reason you should vote for him."

A compilation would be a great ad. My mother was a die hard neocon, police the world type last election cycle...until around the end. What changed her mind wasn't the message, but rather she started watching how they treated him, particularly in the debates. She assumed it must be something good if both the left and the right were trying to make a mockery out of him and outright lie.

[Tyler_Durden]

Could make a good ad.

"The reason the status quo and media lie to you about Ron Paul is the reason you should vote for him."

As ANGRY as we get about the MSM lies and spins on poll numbers, distortions, disinformation, misinfo, bias, etc, I'm willing to bet that a PAC fund raiser / moneybomb would generate revenue for airtime. Seriously, we are not just Campaigning against the GOP, we are Campaigning against the MSM too!! Time to buy airtime and show the Masses wtf is going on.....

[Esoteric]

We really need a :60 second compilation of this crap, and run it all over the airwaves.

[blazeKing]

Not surprised because they are SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM

[kill the banks]

scum with military precision

[WD-NY]

I wish the campaign would buy airtime with an ad that shows a compilation of blatant MSM lies.

Better yet, a Pro-Paul PAC should put something together so that the media can't accuse Ron of "whining" about "unfair" coverage.

A professionally produced 30min infomercial produced by the best in the business, that's both 'entertaining' and informative would be epic.

15 minutes on "The Media Machine Against Ron Paul" - this part would show examples of their 'marginalization' tactics, break each tactic down to it's component parts and explain how/why each tactics changes peoples opinions/impressions of a person.


15 minutes on 'Ron Paul's Platform - Why the Media is Against Him" - this part would connect the dots so to speak. It's not enough to simply show examples of bias, you have to also answer the question "why are they biased against him?". Ideally, the analysis of how Ron's platform is bad for the multi-national corporations that own 95% of the media would be objection, straight-forward and conspiracy-theory-free.

[JJ2]

They used the National average instead of the NH average!

[rp2012win]

They used the RCP average of December 12th-January 5th. Look at the graphic and you will see. It sucks they did that, but it's the game we're up against.

EDIT: Even using Dec. 12-Jan 5 I still dont get those numbers. Thats fucked up.

[Liberty74]

If Paul was running Independent, would we be going through all this crap right now? Yes, I predicted stuff like this because we are up against the establishment and the criminal two party system. Fox is no exception.

[CaptainAmerica]

They just did the polling run down again and said Paul's rolling average was 20.2%

There are 2 polls. GOP VOTER polling =12 percent ....overall polling in NH is 20percent. Jeez guys calm down !

[torchbearer]

you live in a matrix.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

So when will the campaign or SuperPAC start suing these media criminals for their unmistakable lies? I don't see how the case could possibly lose.

Bare minimum they issue a public retraction, or better, provide money in damages for additional ads.

[nowwearefree]

the only hope i have right now is with young people
most young people/college kids/ internet user view fox news as a joke
by the time the older generation dies, perhaps there will be a change?
at least i would hope so

[jsem]

Fair and unbiased media tells it like it is as usual, don't they.

[Scott_in_PA]

There are 2 polls. GOP VOTER polling =12 percent ....overall polling in NH is 20percent. Jeez guys calm down !

Can you link to this pls.

That Campaign ad part is just wrong.

Doug did a great job.

[FreedomRings]

They used the RCP average of December 12th-January 5th. Look at the graphic and you will see. It sucks they did that, but it's the game we're up against.

EDIT: Even using Dec. 12-Jan 5 I still dont get those numbers. Thats fucked up.

They used the national RPC average but misrepresented it as NH data.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

[Agorism]

Weed should have known the RCP average really.

[kill the banks]

the only hope i have right now is with young people
most young people/college kids/ internet user view fox news as a joke
by the time the older generation dies, perhaps there will be a change?
at least i would hope so

why do you want your 76 year old leader to die too ?.. tired of this mythology

[speciallyblend]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkEhwOxKgY<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkEhwOxKgY">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkEhwOxKgY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkEhwOxKgY)

[Travlyr]

why do you want your 76 year old leader to die too ?.. tired of this mythology
Some people are just too indoctrinated to get over the young vs. old media meme. They would rather be divided than united.

[Scott_in_PA]

They used the national RPC average but misrepresented it as NH data.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

I'm seeing this

2012 Republican Presidential Nomination
2008 GOP Race on January 7, 2008 | 2008 GOP Final RCP Average
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample
Romney Gingrich Paul Santorum Perry Huntsman Spread
RCP Average 12/14 - 1/6 -- 27.2 22.2 12.6 9.6 5.8 2.0 Romney +5.0
Gallup Tracking 1/2 - 1/6 1000 29 17 12 16 6 1 Romney +12
Rasmussen Reports 1/4 - 1/4 1000 LV 29 16 12 21 4 4 Romney +8
CNN/Opinion Research 12/16 - 12/18 436 A 28 28 14 4 7 2 Tie
ABC News/Wash Post 12/15 - 12/18 RV 30 30 15 4 6 2 Tie
CBS News 12/14 - 12/18 291 RV 20 20 10 3 6 1 Tie

and this on the video

Romney Gingrich Paul Santorum Perry Huntsman
RCP Average 12/14 - 1/6 -- 26.8 22.6 12.6 9.4 5.8 2.2


So what we have is the national poll labeled as a NH poll and it is still wrong but just a few tenths of a point here and there ?

:confused:

[Boss]

Wead is so good @ this

[FreedomRings]

So what we have is the national poll labeled as a NH poll and it is still wrong but just a few tenths of a point here and there ?

:confused:

It looks like they didn't include the last poll (Gallup Tracking 1/2 - 1/6)