Newt Gingrich Tells New Hampshire: Jefferson And Washington Would Have Cracked Down On Pot

[jcarcinogen]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/04/newt-gingrich-new-hampshire-pot_n_1183618.html

Doesn't "Cracking down on pot" = Big Government???

EDIT: NORML's response http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/drug-law/newt-gingrich-proves-his-ignorance-america%E2%80%99s-marijuana-heritage-new-hampshire

[braane]

Didn't Jefferson have opium poppies in his garden? I thought Gingrich was supposed to be a historian.

[bluesc]

Oh god this guy is an idiot.

[Sola_Fide]

Dumb. When are Republicans going to wake up?

[JTforRP]

lolololol

[bluesc]

Didn't Jefferson have opium poppies in his garden? I thought Gingrich was supposed to be a historian.

Washington grew hemp too.

[nobody's_hero]

LMao, yeah, 'cause everyone knows this was their next-biggest issue after whipping the British.

"Damn, now if we could just get rid of that pot." - George Washington

[eduardo89]

Washington grew hemp too.

So did Jefferson. The Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights were drafted on hemp paper.

[nano1895]

"Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere." -President George Washington

???

[1stAmendguy]

What is Gingrich smoking (pun)? The freakin' Constitution was written on hemp paper.

[blazeKing]

"Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country."
- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President quote on Hemp

[nobody's_hero]

Oh god this guy is an idiot.

Newt is a politician. Anyone who believes him, on the other hand, is the idiot.

[TheTexan]

How are people like this even considered for the Presidency? There is zero evidence to support that claim, and in fact a good amount of evidence to suggest otherwise.

You disagree with X? George Washington agrees with me!! /wins argument

[Kords21]

Freddie Mac paid this guy to be an historian? Maybe they can get a refund.

[JTforRP]

‎"Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere!" - George Washington in a note to his gardener at Mount Vernon (1794)

[eduardo89]

What is Gingrich smoking? The freakin' Constitution was written on hemp paper.

It was most probably drafted on hemp paper, about 90% of the paper at the time was made from hemp. The Constitution, however, was written on parchment made from sheep's skin.

[pacu44]

Freddie Mac paid this guy to be an historian? Maybe they can get a refund.

How did that work out, for either of them?

[Echoes]

That lying peice of shit probably knows the truth but will say anything to get nominated.

[SonofThunder]

Didn't Jefferson have opium poppies in his garden? I thought Gingrich was supposed to be a historian.

Wasn't Jefferson a big hemp farmer?

[Bruno]

What is Gingrich smoking? The freakin' Constitution was written on hemp paper.

I guess he means that after they wrote about freedom and limited federal government on hemp paper, they would have arrested people smoking the same plant.

It is pretty ridiculous,.

[GML3G]

"Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now."
"Laws provide against injury from others, but not from ourselves."
- Jefferson

Gingrich is an assistant professor of history, huh?

[bluesc]

Anyone want to turn up at one of his NH town halls, quote him on this, and then read some quotes from Jefferson and Washington? It will generate some media.

[1stAmendguy]

It was most probably drafted on hemp paper, about 90% of the paper at the time was made from hemp. The Constitution, however, was written on parchment made from sheep's skin.

Ah, well I learned something today. I guess what I previously believed is just an urban legend.

[Sola_Fide]

"Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now."
"Laws provide against injury from others, but not from ourselves."
- Jefferson

Gingrich is an assistant professor of history, huh?

Yeah...Revisionism 101

[Aratus]

^this^

[eduardo89]

Ah, well I learned something today. I guess what I previously believed is just an urban legend.

Well it's not too far off. As I said, until the late 1800's almost all paper was made from hemp fibers. Paper, however, doesn't last very long and isn't as "formal" as parchment.



****The first draft of the Declaration of Independence (June 28, 1776) was written on Dutch (hemp) paper, as was the second draft completed on July 2, 1776. This was the document actually agreed to on that day and announced and released on July 4, 1776. …On July 19, 1776, Congress ordered the Declaration be copied and engrossed on parchment (a prepared animal skin) and this was the document actually signed by the delegates on August 2, 1776.

[Maltheus]

But I'm confused. I thought it was ok for Gingirch to smoke pot in college because it was only illegal back then, but not immoral. Now he's called for the death penalty for people carrying more than 2 oz because he claims that it's suddenly become immoral too. So was it immoral back in the founders time? Was the 60s the only time it wasn't Newt?

[Paulitics 2011]

It's okay, he's irrelevant.

Newt who?

[coastie]

But I'm confused. I thought it was ok for Gingirch to smoke pot in college because it was only illegal back then, but not immoral. Now he's called for the death penalty for people carrying more than 2 oz because he claims that it's suddenly become immoral too. So was it immoral back in the founders time? Was the 60s the only time it wasn't Newt?

Nothin is immoral when the Newt is doing it, duh.

[Libertea Party]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/gary-johnson-newt-gingrich-supported-death-penalty-for-marijuana-even-though-he-smokes-marijuana/

[Aratus]

Yeah...Revisionism 101

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bman]

Wasn't this douche bag a history professor? Seemed his new profession is LIAR!!!


"Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country."
- Thomas Jefferson,


"Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."
- George Washington

[sratiug]

If it is true that the Constitution and the Declaration were drafted on hemp paper and Washington and Jefferson grew hemp we should really pound on hysterical drug warrior/historian Newt.

[thehungarian]

Jefferson wouldn't have done shit.

[Tax the Fed]

Washington grew hemp too.

Newton Leroy - the draft dodger second-tier - Gingrich needs to read a letter Washington wrote . . .

"I took the flowering tops of the hemp plant . . . "

Also,

"Both President George Washington and President Thomas Jefferson were advocates of hemp
as a valuable cash crop. Jefferson urged farmers to grow the crop in lieu of tobacco."

Source : http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/marijuana

[Boss]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/gary-johnson-newt-gingrich-supported-death-penalty-for-marijuana-even-though-he-smokes-marijuana/

LOL

Gingrich is the worst (although Santorum is giving him a run for his money)

[Carole]

America's Founding Fathers: Pot Heads
http://thesecularity.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8355

Our Founding Fathers; Sex, Drugs and Revolution! ... and New world Order?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfS3g1J7KvU

[John F Kennedy III]

Lol. Newt just can't stop saying stupid shit.

[pinkmandy]

Lol. Newt just can't stop saying stupid shit.

Self control is definitely a stranger to him.

[sailingaway]

Didn't Jefferson grow hemp, at least?

[sratiug]

Hemp was the number 1 cash crop in the world for a couple thousand years, according to what I understand. Maybe during Jefferson's time?

[affa]

"In the intervening years, however, Gingrich’s attitudes toward marijuana, like so many of his positions, changed significantly, and while the years in this case might insulate him from the flip-flopping charge, he displays a moral flexibility that should disturb conservative voters. “See, when I smoked pot it was illegal,” he told WSJ’s Hilary Stout in 1996, “but not immoral. Now, it is illegal AND immoral. The law didn’t change, only the morality… That’s why you get to go to jail and I don’t.”"

--That may be the dumbest, most hypocritical thing I've ever heard a politician say with a straight face.

[Jerkface]

"In the intervening years, however, Gingrich’s attitudes toward marijuana, like so many of his positions, changed significantly, and while the years in this case might insulate him from the flip-flopping charge, he displays a moral flexibility that should disturb conservative voters. “See, when I smoked pot it was illegal,” he told WSJ’s Hilary Stout in 1996, “but not immoral. Now, it is illegal AND immoral. The law didn’t change, only the morality… That’s why you get to go to jail and I don’t.”"

--That may be the dumbest, most hypocritical thing I've ever heard a politician say with a straight face.

New is an excellent wordsmith. Given enough time, the worm can convince most people of anything. This is a good example. He would have made an excellent lawyer.

[specsaregood]

Hemp was the number 1 cash crop in the world for a couple thousand years, according to what I understand. Maybe during Jefferson's time?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH__GUg1EwY

[SpicyTurkey]

Was that why the Constitution was made of hemp?

[Bruno]

Hemp was currency for many decades in our history.

[eduardo89]

Was that why the Constitution was made of hemp?

It's not. I already stated this in the thread. The Constitution is written (well actually engrossed) onto parchment made from sheep's skin. The drafts were most likely written on hemp paper.

[69360]

Newt came out against pot in the live free or die state? Huge facepalm.

[coastie]

Newt came out against pot in the live free or die state? Huge facepalm.

This is the same state that voted for McCain in 2007....

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Hemp isn't what he is talking about, but I get the point

However, I wonder if the Founders actually grow any drug plants?

[specsaregood]

This is the same state that voted for McCain in 2007....

by the anti-war voters even.

[coastie]

by the anti-war voters even.

^AND that.

Like everything else in this country, its just a catchy motto that no one really believes and they just pull it out for argument's sake.

[affa]

Hemp isn't what he is talking about, but I get the point

However, I wonder if the Founders actually grow any drug plants?

i'd bet many of our founders toked on occasion, though I have no proof of this other than the fact that marijuana wasn't demonized back then.

[Sublyminal]

i'd bet many of our founders toked on occasion, though I have no proof of this other than the fact that marijuana wasn't demonized back then.


The bible says Jesus partook of the herb, so why then is it illegal in a nation with a bunch of Christians?

[braane]

Hemp isn't what he is talking about, but I get the point

However, I wonder if the Founders actually grow any drug plants?

I believe marijuana wasn't an acknowledged word for it at the time, at least in the colonies? Marijuana is a Spanish word for it, and has generally come to be used for the recreational types of cannabis. Hemp might have been a word they used for all types of cannabis.

Edit: Yes, the word marijuana didn't become an American term until around the 1930's. Before then it would have been known as cannabis or hemp. Marihuana is what immigrants crossing from Mexico called it, and eventually the name just stuck. It is a derivative of a word that literally means 'intoxicating plant'.

[coastie]

I believe marijuana wasn't an acknowledged word for it at the time, at least in the colonies? Marijuana is a Spanish word for it, and has generally come to be used for the recreational types of cannabis. Hemp might have been a word they used for all types of cannabis.

^correct.

It was called hemp back then whether the smoked kind or not. Cannabis popularized a little later, mostly within medical community-so imagine their surprise when "Cannabis" -as they knew it-was suddenly dangerous, and therefore illegal.

The word marijuana was "introduced" to the US during the government's initial crack down on hemp in the late 30's, as Mexican immigrants were not exactly liked back then, they smoked it so the .gov used that inherent racism to demonize it.

The jazz singers in New Orleans also smoked it, and the propaganda followed suit by demonizing them and their association with the devil's weed.

[coastie]

i'd bet many of our founders toked on occasion, though I have no proof of this other than the fact that marijuana wasn't demonized back then.


"Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica." - Abraham Lincoln

Not a founder, but still......isn't Newt a Lincoln worshiper?

[Working Poor]

No need to do a hit piece on this buffoon he will do it for us with his own stupidity.

[J-Reg]

The bible says Jesus partook of the herb, so why then is it illegal in a nation with a bunch of Christians? I'm sorry, but where does it say that? I'm so curious!

[coastie]

I'm sorry, but where does it say that? I'm so curious!

It does not say that anywhere in the bible...

[Voluntary Man]

I think Washington and Jefferson would call Newt a "crack pot."

.... a "dangerous" crack pot.

[specsaregood]

It does not say that anywhere in the bible...
We do however have scientific evidence that it was being carried around and used by shamans over 2700 years ago.

[CTRattlesnake]

This is the inherent difference between Ron and everyone else.....


Ron may not agree with a principle, but he doesnt want the government to stop others from using it.


A guy like Newt doesnt like something so he wants the feds to ban it from everyone because he said so.



Epidemic of narcissism

[nano1895]

We do however have scientific evidence that it was being carried around and used by shamans over 2700 years ago.

If a drug addict walked up to Jesus begging for him to look at him, would Jesus have

1. Cured him of his drug addiction
2. Marched him to the Roman guards and said YOU NEED TO LOCK THIS GUY UP

???

[HOLLYWOOD]

Newt Nukem!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmSSVt7Mfkk

[Sublyminal]

It does not say that anywhere in the bible...


It doesn't say it in that exact wording but it does say something along those lines. I'm not much of a bible thumper so I can't give you an exact book.

[coastie]

We do however have scientific evidence that it was being carried around and used by shamans over 2700 years ago.


Right....I was just saying there is no mention of Jesus "using" it in the bible, at least not in the way so many seem to wish he did.




Disclaimer: I am an Atheist and don't buy into any of it either way.

[coastie]

It doesn't say it in that exact wording but it does say something along those lines. I'm not much of a bible thumper so I can't give you an exact book.


No, it does not. And I am not a "bible thumper" by any stretch, either.

[roho76]

How does one even get the audacity to walk into the "Live Free or Die State" and make such a dumb ass statement?

I don't know what to say. This guy is so full of shit he's growing potatoes.

[Sublyminal]

No, it does not. And I am not a "bible thumper" by any stretch, either.


If there's one thing I've learned, it's that the bible; there are a ton of them out there, each with different variations on translations. I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true and shown to me by a Christian.

[Arklatex]

When Jefferson made that quote he was referring to all the qualities of this plant.

Some more important than others... (Settled long ago by those who have consumed its flower)

[tempest]

Guys get real

I'm surprised that some of you think Newt is mistaken or smoking something (implying that he is talking out of ignorance)

No, Grinch is a manipulative, conniving lying sack of dog mess: he DOES KNOW that Jefferson And Washington would NOT have cracked down on drugs

Do not ever assume that Newt is innocently wrong.

[Voluntary Man]

Guys get real

I'm surprised that some of you think Newt is mistaken or smoking something (implying that he is talking out of ignorance)

No, Grinch is a manipulative, conniving lying sack of dog mess: he DOES KNOW that Jefferson And Washington would NOT have cracked down on drugs

Do not ever assume that Newt is innocently wrong.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I never assume the evil are innocent.

[Mini-Me]

But I'm confused. I thought it was ok for Gingirch to smoke pot in college because it was only illegal back then, but not immoral. Now he's called for the death penalty for people carrying more than 2 oz because he claims that it's suddenly become immoral too. So was it immoral back in the founders time? Was the 60s the only time it wasn't Newt?

Please say you were using hyperbole...or has he actually called for killing anyone caught with more than 2 oz? I mean, yeah, I know, sociopaths will be sociopaths, but that's one of the worst things I've ever heard.

[Steve-in-NY]

This was spoken so that the Paul supporters that prove him wrong look like pot smoking hippies, which fit his narrative.
Newts a joke, he knows it. Bring up his marijuana use if you have to bring up anything.

[G-Wohl]

Please say you were using hyperbole...or has he actually called for killing anyone caught with more than 2 oz? I mean, yeah, I know, sociopaths will be sociopaths, but that's one of the worst things I've ever heard.

2oz????

?????????

I would have risked the death penalty about 300 times just in college alone if that were the case. :rolleyes:

[heavenlyboy34]

Someone should tell Newty that the Constitution that he wants to uphold is written on hemp. ;)

[mczerone]

Didn't Jefferson have opium poppies in his garden? I thought Gingrich was supposed to be a historian.

He's "the smartest candidate in the race" and he "really knows his history".

I'm sure Paul knows more about history from reading Rothbard's "Conceived in Liberty" once than Gingrich has ever known.

[Lomez]

"Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see."
Memoirs of Thomas Jefferson, 1781

Newt needs a history lesson.

[speciallyblend]

Washington grew hemp too.

newt is an idiot. he is a liar. He is a historian right? this is simple knowledge.

[speciallyblend]

"Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see."
Memoirs of Thomas Jefferson, 1781

Newt needs a history lesson.

hell we should make a commerical using washington and jefferson exposing romney,newt and status quo.

[A. Havnes]

"Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see."
Memoirs of Thomas Jefferson, 1781

Newt needs a history lesson.

It came from Jefferson, but it sounds like it could be Tolkien!

[speciallyblend]

someone should drudge this using washington and jefferson to speak against newt:)

[LibertyEagle]

LMao, yeah, 'cause everyone knows this was their next-biggest issue after whipping the British.

"Damn, now if we could just get rid of that pot." - George Washington

I'm sorry, but that was good. ROFL

[speciallyblend]

http://naihc.org/hemp_information/hemp_facts.html

[coastie]

Please say you were using hyperbole...or has he actually called for killing anyone caught with more than 2 oz? I mean, yeah, I know, sociopaths will be sociopaths, but that's one of the worst things I've ever heard.


No, he really did propose that. Google.

[xFiFtyOnE]

Washington grew hemp too.

I've heard that also. WTF is Gingrich talking about?

[LibertyEagle]

Freddie Mac paid this guy to be an historian? Maybe they can get a refund.

Oh, come on, you don't believe they hired him as an historian.

[tremendoustie]

Please say you were using hyperbole...or has he actually called for killing anyone caught with more than 2 oz? I mean, yeah, I know, sociopaths will be sociopaths, but that's one of the worst things I've ever heard.

Crossing borders with 2oz, I believe:

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/27/us/gingrich-suggests-tough-drug-measure.html

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h104-4170

Y'all need to check out www.notonewt.com, if you're not aware of how much of a power hungry psychopath this guy truly is.

[tremendoustie]

The drafts of the declaration of independence were written on hemp. I believe the final version was written on cloth.

[speciallyblend]

this thread makes me want to have a conversation with aquabuddha. This one is for you Newt.

[Mini-Me]

someone should drudge this using washington and jefferson to speak against newt:)

I'd be careful to check the original source, to make sure the quote isn't fabricated. It really does sound like another writer (the style is oddly reminiscent of Tolkien, lol). I'm looking for an online copy of Memoirs of Thomas Jefferson right now, but I haven't found a high quality searchable version of the full text yet.


Crossing borders with 2oz, I believe:

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/27/us/gingrich-suggests-tough-drug-measure.html

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h104-4170

Y'all need to check out www.notonewt.com, if you're not aware of how much of a power hungry psychopath this guy truly is.

That's pretty nuts. Thankfully, he'll never become President.

[Maltheus]

Please say you were using hyperbole...or has he actually called for killing anyone caught with more than 2 oz? I mean, yeah, I know, sociopaths will be sociopaths, but that's one of the worst things I've ever heard.

As Speaker of the House, Gingrich introduced the “Drug Importer Death Penalty Act of 1996.”

The bill would have required a “sentence of death for certain importations of significant quantities of controlled substances.” It would have applied to anyone convicted more than once of carrying 100 doses — or about two ounces — or marijuana across the border. Defendants would have had a window of 18 months to file their one and only appeal.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/12/gary-johnson-gingrich-proposed-the-death-penalty-for-marijuana/

[Cowlesy]

This was spoken so that the Paul supporters that prove him wrong look like pot smoking hippies, which fit his narrative.
Newts a joke, he knows it. Bring up his marijuana use if you have to bring up anything.


+rep

As Admiral Ackbar would say, "It's a trap!"

[tremendoustie]

Check that first link I posted too -- he calls for mass public executions.

[speciallyblend]

I'd be careful to check the original source, to make sure the quote isn't fabricated. It really does sound like another writer (the style is oddly reminiscent of Tolkien, lol). I'm looking for an online copy of Memoirs of Thomas Jefferson right now, but I haven't found a high quality searchable version of the full text yet.

history= they both grew hemp. and ben franklin ran a hemp mill

[A Son of Liberty]

Newt Gingrich Tells New Hampshire: Jefferson And Washington Would Have Cracked Down On Pot

Fixed your thread title for you.

[Tax the Fed]

Anyone want to turn up at one of his NH town halls, quote him on this, and then read some quotes from Jefferson and Washington? It will generate some media.

Great idea !

I need to find that reference of a George Washington letter (around 1780's) with "I took the flowering tops of the hemp plant . . ."

and maybe somebuddy could confront the revisionist history professor Newton the Nutt in NH ??

[speciallyblend]

http://naihc.org/hemp_information/hemp_facts.html

j (http://naihc.org/hemp_information/hemp_facts.html)ust google it folks its all there. common sense is a bitch eh newt.

[Mini-Me]

history= they both grew hemp. and ben franklin ran a hemp mill

True. George Washington also has a [legimate] quote from his diaries regarding the separation of the male and female hemp plants, and the primary reason for that is to increase the amount of THC.

My spidey-sense is telling me that the Thomas Jefferson quote is fabricated though.


Check that first link I posted too -- he calls for mass public executions.
Not only that, he justifies it with a melodramatic "for the children" tirade. You have your globalist psychopaths, and you have your globalist deranged lunatic psychopaths, and Newt Gingrich happens to fall in the more specific category.

[speciallyblend]

norml's take http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/drug-law/newt-gingrich-proves-his-ignorance-america%E2%80%99s-marijuana-heritage-new-hampshire

[PastaRocket848]

lol.. some historian.

[demolama]

This type of crap is what gives historians bad names. His PhD needs to be revoked.

[speciallyblend]

True. George Washington also has a [legimate] quote from his diaries regarding the separation of the male and female hemp plants, and the primary reason for that is to increase the amount of THC.

My spidey-sense is telling me that the Thomas Jefferson quote is fabricated though.


Not only that, he justifies it with a melodramatic "for the children" tirade. You have your globalist psychopaths, and you have your globalist deranged lunatic psychopaths, and Newt Gingrich happens to fall in the more specific category.

this is what i found in less then 5 seconds hehe need to find more sources but the last here seems right "The greatest service that can be rendered to any country is to add a useful plant to its culture." -Thomas Jefferson

"If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

"An acre of the best ground for hemp, is to be selected and sewn in hemp and be kept for a permanent hemp patch." - Thomas Jefferson's Garden book 1849

[speciallyblend]

type this in google lots of info. thomas jefferson marijuana quotes

[centure7]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/04/newt-gingrich-new-hampshire-pot_n_1183618.html

Doesn't "Cracking down on pot" = Big Government???

Cracking down on pot means they'd have added some crack to their pot pipe. Gingrich is now even more radical than Paul by advocating for crack legalization.

Given that Gingrich is a historian and must know Jefferson & Washington loved growing their weed, its the only possible explanation.

[speciallyblend]

The fact is that George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, and many other Founding Fathers and their contemporaries were hemp farmers. Far from discouraging its cultivation, the early presidents

demanded
its cultivation:

from the link above in my earlier post http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/drug-law/newt-gingrich-proves-his-ignorance-america’s-marijuana-heritage-new-hampshire, looks like newt wanted to arrest james madison and monroe to i am sure the list goes on

by the way romney can be lumped into this insanity as well.

[jcarcinogen]

norml's take http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/drug-law/newt-gingrich-proves-his-ignorance-america%E2%80%99s-marijuana-heritage-new-hampshire

Nice. I putthis on the op.

[speciallyblend]

Nice. I put this on the op. lots of quotes to i am sure norml has the sources.


Make the most of the Indian Hemp Seed and sow it everywhere!” – George Washington“We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption.” – John Adams“Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country.” – Thomas Jefferson

“The artificial preparation of hemp, from Silesia, is really a curiosity.” – George Washington (referring to hashish, used only as a drug)
“…began to separate the male from the female (hemp) plants,” – George Washington’s farm diary (one reason to separate males from females to get more potent buds)


“Make the most of the Indian Hemp Seed and sow it everywhere!” – George Washington
“We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption.” – John Adams
“Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country.” – Thomas Jefferson

[tremendoustie]

Not only that, he justifies it with a melodramatic "for the children" tirade. You have your globalist psychopaths, and you have your globalist deranged lunatic psychopaths, and Newt Gingrich happens to fall in the more specific category.

Gotta execute mommy for the children!

[LiveForHonortune]

Is dis Gingbitch srs?

[coastie]

The fact is that George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, and many other Founding Fathers and their contemporaries were hemp farmers. Far from discouraging its cultivation, the early presidents

demanded
its cultivation:

from the link above in my earlier post http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/drug-law/newt-gingrich-proves-his-ignorance-america’s-marijuana-heritage-new-hampshire, looks like newt wanted to arrest james madison and monroe to i am sure the list goes on

by the way romney can be lumped into this insanity as well.


Many of the early colonies(not all) REQUIRED it to be grown, you did not have a choice as it was so important to the British Navy for ropes and rigging.

Taxes were largely paid in hemp during the early years as well.

This is all historical fact, there is no getting around it, no matter how much one "Gingrich's" history. I am not surprised he has a PhD, they seem to be a dime a dozen nowadays, and as I said in another post-people that I have met with letters before and after their names are some of the dumbest people I have ever met.

[heavenlyboy34]

The drafts of the declaration of independence were written on hemp. I believe the final version was written on cloth.
You are correct. My bad. :(

[RickyJ]

Then why didn't they?

Is Gingrich retarded?

Does he not know pot isn't new, it has been here since the beginning of time.

The old fat man needs to just go away, he is embarrassing this nation.

[MyEyesTheyBurn]

Is Gingrich retarded?
This.

[GunnyFreedom]

This is the same state that voted for McCain in 2007....

To be fair they voted for McCain in 2008 because they thought he was going to end the wars.

[GunnyFreedom]

Hemp isn't what he is talking about, but I get the point

However, I wonder if the Founders actually grow any drug plants?

Yes, Monticello boasted a huge pharmacy section in the garden, many species of which are currently illegal to grow. Also, I remember a quote from a letter from Jefferson somewhere talking about smoking "sweet hemp," which AFAIK can only mean one thing.


ETA apparently this was Abraham Lincoln

[Chester Copperpot]

After the revolution, George Washington was the largest whiskey distiller in the country.

[specsaregood]

Oh, come on, you don't believe they hired him as an historian.

Who better to hire if you want to revise and rewrite history?

[Omnica]

Didn't Jefferson have opium poppies in his garden? I thought Gingrich was supposed to be a historian.
Make the most of the Indian Hemp seed. sow it everywhere.

[Omnica]

You are correct. My bad. :(
Final version of Dec. of Inde. Was written on parchment.

The first drafts were all written on hemp paper.

[Omnica]

Many of the early colonies(not all) REQUIRED it to be grown, you did not have a choice as it was so important to the British Navy for ropes and rigging.

Taxes were largely paid in hemp during the early years as well.

This is all historical fact, there is no getting around it, no matter how much one "Gingrich's" history. I am not surprised he has a PhD, they seem to be a dime a dozen nowadays, and as I said in another post-people that I have met with letters before and after their names are some of the dumbest people I have ever met.
+rep
Piled higher and Deeper = PhD

[Dartht33bagger]

The pure audacity of many of the statements Gingrich and Santorum make almost makes me think they just want to make people laugh.

Make they will have a future in comedy after they lose the GOP nomination!

[heavenlyboy34]

Many of the early colonies(not all) REQUIRED it to be grown, you did not have a choice as it was so important to the British Navy for ropes and rigging.

Taxes were largely paid in hemp during the early years as well.

This is all historical fact, there is no getting around it, no matter how much one "Gingrich's" history. I am not surprised he has a PhD, they seem to be a dime a dozen nowadays, and as I said in another post-people that I have met with letters before and after their names are some of the dumbest people I have ever met.
Yep. I know a quite incompetent organist who has a degree of some sort in music.

[heavenlyboy34]

Yes, Monticello boasted a huge pharmacy section in the garden, many species of which are currently illegal to grow. Also, I remember a quote from a letter from Jefferson somewhere talking about smoking "sweet hemp," which AFAIK can only mean one thing.


ETA apparently this was Abraham Lincoln
That's right. The quote you're thinking of is "Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica." (I happen to know this because I play Hohner harmonicas myself ;) :))

[HigherVision]

lots of quotes to i am sure norml has the sources.


Make the most of the Indian Hemp Seed and sow it everywhere!” – George Washington“We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption.” – John Adams“Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country.” – Thomas Jefferson

“The artificial preparation of hemp, from Silesia, is really a curiosity.” – George Washington (referring to hashish, used only as a drug)
“…began to separate the male from the female (hemp) plants,” – George Washington’s farm diary (one reason to separate males from females to get more potent buds)


“Make the most of the Indian Hemp Seed and sow it everywhere!” – George Washington
“We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption.” – John Adams
“Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country.” – Thomas Jefferson


Wow that's crazy about Washington seperating the male plants from the females. Sounds like he was cultivating sinsemilla buds way back then, as that's the only reason to do that. I don't think that was even common practice in America as recently as the 1960's-70's. George Washington rules! ;)