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ronpaul1
01-04-2012, 04:57 AM
http://i.imgur.com/KOTbN.png

libertythor
01-04-2012, 05:02 AM
It means that we need to work harder at attracting seniors. It is important to try and turn out the "base", but in the current situation, winning means expanding the horizon.

nobody's_hero
01-04-2012, 05:05 AM
Old people hurry up and die (unless you support Ron Paul and in that case, may you live forever in good health).

Crystallas
01-04-2012, 05:09 AM
According to both x/y demographics, I would be more likely to vote for Santorum! LMAO! I'm glad I am a free thinking individual.

libertarian4321
01-04-2012, 05:40 AM
Crap.

According to that chart, I should be supporting Santorum (by age) or Romney (by income).

However, I don't see it happening!

libertythor
01-04-2012, 05:57 AM
Old people hurry up and die (unless you support Ron Paul and in that case, may you live forever in good health).

LOL I am sure that was a joke, but trust me, that would not help liberty at all. Despite being blinded by issues like national defense, I think that older people are more likely to be worried about the socialist indoctrination in the public schools and the lessening of the core standards. e.g. the plan to quit stressing writing and math skills for students designated for certain jobs that the economy needs

Look at the difference in the percentage of young people who support Obama and actually actively espouse overtly socialist precepts and say that the constitution is outdated versus the boomers and older who at the very least reacted strongly against big government in 2010, even though their vote is still misguided.

Also remember that the tidal wave from the young for Obama was and is much larger than that for Ron Paul in terms of sheer numbers. It is mainly because of the basic precepts of our parents and grandparents that most of us are conservatives and support Ron Paul, if you really think about it... even though they may like Sean Hannity and be worried about Israel, they still actually sympathize with us on most issues.

The goal, convince the older people that Ron Paul is the only true CONSERVATIVE.

Kingfisher
01-04-2012, 05:58 AM
Older people are less likely to use the internet. So the get thier "news" from the MSM

WilliamC
01-04-2012, 06:03 AM
Old people hurry up and die (unless you support Ron Paul and in that case, may you live forever in good health).

Hey I'm living as fast as I can ;)

edit, this is why I don't ever feel bad for Ron Paul, he knows the real battle for liberty lies in growing a new generation committed to it, not in trying to covert the fossils like he and I who grew up brainwashed by TV.

For Ron Paul and his old-fashioned ideas, the future is bright indeed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

libertythor
01-04-2012, 06:07 AM
This is where serial hypocrisy-type ads against Romney and other candidates would help. The core values of a larger percentage of older people is probably more similar to ours than that of most younger people. However, older people are going by the information from the msm and being herded into supporting who can beat Obama in the hope of stopping socialism.

This is where we come in. The college campuses will help get us up to 20%, but increasing our numbers with older people is what is needed to win. Bashing them won't help anything.

Edit: My parents have come around to supporting Ron Paul since 2008. My mom also is now reading a lot of original sources online and listening to the lectures of Tom Woods.

JohnM
01-04-2012, 06:39 AM
Old people hurry up and die (unless you support Ron Paul and in that case, may you live forever in good health).

It's not just that. According to the CNN exit poll, if it wasn't for female suffrage, Dr. Paul would have come first!

;)

Corey
01-04-2012, 07:03 AM
It's not just that. According to the CNN exit poll, if it wasn't for female suffrage, Dr. Paul would have come first!

;)

Careful, there are certain truths even this forum is not ready for. Long Live Patriarchy :p

nobody's_hero
01-04-2012, 07:04 AM
It's not just that. According to the CNN exit poll, if it wasn't for female suffrage, Dr. Paul would have come first!

;)

Well, I don't know about that. We may not get many female voters but the ones we do get are rather pretty, IMO. Terrible thing to put all women in one basket and drop it.

yet, the statistics don't lie. :(

bobbyw24
01-04-2012, 07:05 AM
Old people hurry up and die (unless you support Ron Paul and in that case, may you live forever in good health).

Really?

Diurdi
01-04-2012, 07:16 AM
Old people hurry up and die (unless you support Ron Paul and in that case, may you live forever in good health).
It's not the old people's fault. It's the campaign and media's fault.

They haven't really been delivered with the message like younger people have.

bobbyw24
01-04-2012, 07:17 AM
It's not the old people's fault. It's the campaign and media's fault.

They haven't really been delivered with the message like younger people have.

BINGO

Liberty74
01-04-2012, 07:22 AM
Like I said, it's about the old people. Without them, you can't win. I wonder if I am going to get any apologies now? Or is everyone still stuck on this youth and progessive delusion?

bobbyw24
01-04-2012, 07:25 AM
Like I said, it's about the old people. Without them, you can't win. I wonder if I am going to get any apologies now? Or is everyone still stuck on this youth and progessive delusion?

I agree

People here often bash Boomers and that isn't a good strategy.

Seniors may not be internet may but they have more spare time than younger people and they vote.

WHY CAN'T THE OLDEST MAN RUNNING ATTRACT VOTERS FROM HIS OWN AGE GROUP"????

PC_for_Paul
01-04-2012, 07:28 AM
"It means that we need to work harder at attracting seniors. It is important to try and turn out the "base", but in the current situation, winning means expanding the horizon."

It means the older you are the more brainwashed you are by the media, Older people think the media is a true reflections instead of what it is, which is a brainwashing machine to keep the masses in line. You have to wait for them to die off, but on a bright note 2024 could be our year....

Diurdi
01-04-2012, 08:57 AM
WHY CAN'T THE OLDEST MAN RUNNING ATTRACT VOTERS FROM HIS OWN AGE GROUP"???? Because younger people get their news from the internet and listen to the MSM with suspicion.

The old people get their news mostly from the MSM, and when the MSM tells them that Paul is for drugs, for racism, for stripping down US defence etc, they're not going to vote for him.

Kevin Smyth
01-04-2012, 09:01 AM
Because younger people get their news from the internet and listen to the MSM with suspicion.

The old people get their news mostly from the MSM, and when the MSM tells them that Paul is for drugs, for racism, for stripping down US defence etc, they're not going to vote for him.

Exactly, and the old people are not going to stop being brainwashed by TV. The average MSNBC viewer is 58, the average CNN viewer is 63, and the average Fox News viewer is 65.

smtwngrl
01-04-2012, 11:49 AM
What I found disturbing about these numbers were that 74% of those who showed up were 40 and over. Only 25% were under 40!

No wonder Romney won. 3/4 of those who showed up were in his best age demographics. Only 1/4 of those who showed up were in Ron's best age demographics. Santorum voters were distributed through all of the age groups, so it didn't matter so much to him what the ages of the voters were.

Also, I crunched the numbers by multiplying the total votes in the caucus by the % of each age group to find out how many voters were in each group. Then I took the percentages Ron Paul had in each group and multiplied it by the number of voters in that group to get the approximate number of votes he received from each age group.

I found out that he received almost half of his votes from those age 40 and older. And out of his 26,000 votes, almost 10,000 were from those who were 50 and older.

So, I'm not sure what to think. Do younger people really show up in such small numbers, or are they just really outnumbered in Iowa?

Also, though it's necessary to appeal to people from all age demographics, you also have to get younger people to actually vote.

Jingles
01-04-2012, 12:04 PM
The thing I took away from this was more of the income bracket. This could have something to do with age a bit, but it appears the less more you make/have the more you vote for Paul. This is a good sign considering the state of the economy and the fact that it's just going to get worse.

PastaRocket848
01-04-2012, 12:25 PM
older folks tend to do what the man on t.v. tells them to. it's not popular to say, but it is the truth, and has been for a long time.

SilentBull
01-05-2012, 10:26 AM
Can someone tell me where this came from? Was it from CNN? I want to use it for an article.

harikaried
01-05-2012, 10:30 AM
Can someone tell me where this came from? Was it from CNN? I want to use it for an article.

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/ia

CaneforLife
01-05-2012, 11:14 AM
Ugh, looking at those numbers we shouldv'e DOMINATED the caucus.

Kevin Smyth
01-05-2012, 11:24 AM
Paul got 14% with Republicans, that's as low as Gingrich got. With Independents Paul got 43%.

Santorum got 29% with Republicans and Romney got 27% with them.

Ron Paul lost Iowa because not enough Republicans liked him. How do we fix that?

Kevin Smyth
01-05-2012, 11:29 AM
Paul got a higher percentage of votes in Eastern Iowa close to Illinois than in Western Iowa close to Nebraska. Does anyone who knows Iowa personally know why that would be?

SilentBull
01-05-2012, 11:59 AM
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/ia

Thanks

craezie
01-05-2012, 12:23 PM
I guess as a 30+ wealthy woman, I am quite the anomaly.

According to this, the reason why more young people didn't show up to the caucuses must be that they cannot afford the gas money. Seriously, though, I find the income disparity in candidate choice incredible. I would love to see the same data standardized for age variation.