Ron Paul Iowa Veteran's Rally Discussion Thread: 7 PM ET

[IndianaPolitico]

This is the unofficial discussion thread for toady's Veteran's Rally.
Stream: http://www.c-span.org/Events/Ron-Paul-Hosts-Salute-to-Veterans-in-Iowa/10737426691/

[Sola_Fide]

Is this the official unofficial thread? Or should I wait for the official one?

[Fermli]

This will be shown live on TV on C-SPAN.

Start time is 8ET, not 7ET.

[braane]

I am excited... I wonder what turnout is like!

[IndianaPolitico]

Whoops, can a mod change it to "8" PM? Typo...

[lakerssuck92]

Unofficial thread has unofficial time

[Bruno]

Can anyone upload iphone pics? Pm me, i am in the front row.

[unknown]

Whats this garbage? I see Romney...

He's talking to people with a look in his eye like "I hate you".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibZf7G3wjs

[unknown]

Can anyone upload iphone pics? Pm me, i am in the front row.

Holy shnikees, someone get on this!!!

[Fermli]

Whats this garbage? I see Romney...

it will change to Paul event starting at 8 ET. be patient.

[bronxboy10]

Man Romney is such a panderer! :D

:rolleyes:

[KramerDSP]

Can anyone upload iphone pics? Pm me, i am in the front row.

Heads up on the atmosphere there ? Numbers ? Electricity in the air? Details! :D

[Bruno]

Gage spotted. :)

[Paulatized]

Can anyone upload iphone pics? Pm me, i am in the front row.

How's the turn out?

[IndianaPolitico]

Gage spotted. :)
I remember I went to a Ron Paul event, and I saw this guy running around taking photos. Now I know who it was...

[kusok]

ARRRGGG!!!! I can't believe Romney has supporters! WTF is this??? There are people that are taking picture with him and all... Didn't they get the brochure and campaign's direct mail? How can people be that blind and dumb???

*raging*

srs

[lakerssuck92]

It's on!

[IndianaPolitico]

On now: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

[Canderson]

Does anyone have that oped they just talked about?

[Bruno]

Heads up on the atmosphere there ? Numbers ? Electricity in the air? Details! :D

500 plus, patriotic music, excitement, TONS of cameras and reporters!

[unknown]

Can anyone upload iphone pics? Pm me, i am in the front row.

Dude where are you send us a signal!

[pacodever]

LOL! Romney was in a Deli, Ron Paul is in a convention hall!

[nyrgoal99]

packed out

[Bruno]

I will stand up in front. :)

[unknown]

This guy's alright.

[unknown]

I will stand up in front. :)

Yah bro, do sumtin, send us a signal.

[Bruno]

Brown shirt, silver hair, center left 5 feet

[dbill27]

I will stand up in front. :)

Stand on one leg so we know it's you

[Sola_Fide]

Bruno, give us the secret Ron Paul masonic/reptilian hand gesture. We'll know its you.

[IndianaPolitico]

Stand on one leg so we know it's you
To be sure it is him, he should dance as well, and sing...

[kusok]

lol at standing for prayer and pledge of allegiance... Strong ratio to special guest/10

[nyrgoal99]

Bruno-Crowd does not look that young. Agree?

[Fermli]

Does anyone have that oped they just talked about?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20111228/OPINION01/312280030/Backing-veterans-is-a-must

[WD-NY]

are a lot of people there??

[unknown]

Drew Ivers seems like a good guy.

[Bruno]

Next to the vets with sign in front row. I occaisonally stand and clap. ;)

[Cshelton21]

Looks packed to the gills.

[nyrgoal99]

Bruno-Crowd does not look that young. Agree?

Ehh, there are young people, lol

Good Mix

[unknown]

Go John Feller, hit those high notes!!

[TheDriver]

This is the kind of thing Fox goes crazy over. If Romney was doing this, they break regular programming and bring you a special live report.

[dbill27]

John feller for vp!

[kusok]

Singer is behind the piano... a lot...

Piano messed up...


Why is the pianist banging???

[IndianaPolitico]

Feller has a pretty good voice, doesn't quite have the beat down though...

[bronxboy10]

Gotta love the guy singing. Lots of enthusiasm. :)

[IndianaPolitico]

Singer is behind the piano... a lot...

Piano messed up...


Why is the pianist banging???
Maybe the pianist is mad they didn't get a solo?

[unknown]

Next to the vets with sign in front row. I occaisonally stand and clap. ;)

Good thinking, start the standing ovation.

[KramerDSP]

Can anyone with two TV's check if CNN and FOX are cutting in intermittenly?

[Cshelton21]

Just saw your bruno. first person to stand up after the song.

[Bruno]

Bruno-Crowd does not look that young. Agree?

Agree for sure

[Cowlesy]

Next to the vets with sign in front row. I occaisonally stand and clap. ;)

Nice work Bruno!

[kusok]

Good thinking, start the standing ovation.

Do something that we know it's you.

Stand up nao!


like to fix your seat or something, a little bit.

[Bruno]

Just saw your bruno. first person to stand up after the song.

Yep yep. :)

[dbill27]

Can anyone with two TV's check if CNN and FOX are cutting in intermittenly?

Haha, you're joking right?

[unknown]

I like the direction in which they are taking this.

[d991]

Agree for sure


I saw you there, nice!

[lakerssuck92]

Its working!

[IndianaPolitico]

State Rep. Massive going over the oath of office.

By the way, who said Ron Paul supporters don't love our country?!?

[Bruno]

Do something that we know it's you.

Stand up nao!


like to fix your seat or something, a little bit.

How was that? Lol

[kusok]

A girl stood up first. Bruno?

confused... :D

[pauliticalfan]

Look at all those 'Merica-hatin Paul supporters giving veterans a round of applause!

[Cshelton21]

Foreign and Domestic

[kusok]

How was that? Lol


arrrgg! Camera was zoomed in on speaker.

[d991]

Have any of the other campaigns held a veterans rally like this? It would be so awkward to watch the other candidates give praise to soldiers defending the constitution when they don't do it themselves.

[nyrgoal99]

Do we know what time Ron is speaking?

[TXcarlosTX]

WOW!!! An old fashion slow build up clap stand up sequence!!!

It was a thing of beauty!!

[bronxboy10]

Big standing O early :D

[unknown]

Beautiful.

[nyrgoal99]

Haha, you're joking right?

Why cut in when they can take the tape and edit it to make Ron look like he wants to but veterans on the streets

[IndianaPolitico]

Wow, Massie is ON FIRE!

[pauliticalfan]

Some of this stuff would make a great last minute TV ad.

[TXcarlosTX]

WOW!!! An old fashion slow build up clap stand up sequence!!!

It was a thing of beauty!!

[neverseen]

Guess on how many people are there?

[IndianaPolitico]

Guess on how many people are there?
I am guessing around 600. Bruno could be more exact.

[nyrgoal99]

Have any of the other campaigns held a veterans rally like this? It would be so awkward to watch the other candidates give praise to soldiers defending the constitution when they don't do it themselves.

"I want to thank you for your service"

"Please have your grandchildren report at 6am for deployment"

[pauliticalfan]

Yes!!!!!!!!!

[Maximus]

Wow I just jumped out of my chair

[TXcarlosTX]

oh SHIT!!!

FREEMASON!!

That was also a thing of beauty!!! HA

[ronpaulfollower999]

Masonic symbol on that guys jacket!! Omgzzz!!1!1!!1!!

[KramerDSP]

MASSIE!! MASSIE!!! MASSSSSSSIEEEEEEEE!

[pauliticalfan]

John Feller back on the mic!

[IndianaPolitico]

Feller back up. On beat now.

[TheDriver]

LOL! Piano player vs Feller!

[Bigvick]

:D this guy singing again

[dbill27]

I am guessing around 600. Bruno could be more exact.
Maybe 300

[Cshelton21]

Hahaha Gota love the grassroots

[IterTemporis]

Masonic symbol on that guys jacket!! Omgzzz!!1!1!!1!!

What? What are you talking about?

[Cowlesy]

Pure Americana. Major networks not in attendance. Shocker!!

[bronxboy10]

We need to get this guy on an ad.

[dbill27]

:D this guy singing again
He doesn't get many chances a year

[blabam]

Love this guy!

[kusok]

that was badass. Grammy award!

[TXcarlosTX]

That Masonic symbol was gangster!!!!

That will get all the real nutters to go wild.

HA

[nyrgoal99]

Maybe 300
15 or so rows of about 15 on both sides

450-500

[IndianaPolitico]

LOL! Piano player vs Feller!
The fight of the decade.

[Johnny Appleseed]

Feller is going to Hollywood!

[KramerDSP]

You can tell that Massie and Ivers are beyond giddy. There is no subduedness (if that is even a word). This tells me they are VERY confident about Iowa.

[WD-NY]

ISO Rand Paul?

[dbill27]

Ouch sorry bachman

[ronpaulfollower999]

Uh oh. A Bachmann boy jumped ship.

[IndianaPolitico]

Oh my, State Senator who was the state chair for Bachmann's campaign, IS ENDORSING RON PAUL!!!!!!!

[pauliticalfan]

Oh wow, Bachmann guy endorsing Ron!

[Bruno]

Bombshell!!

[z9000]

deleted

[KramerDSP]

WOW! KEnt Sorenson endorses Ron Paul!

[blabam]

This will get some press :D

[bronxboy10]

State senator endorsement!!! Switching from Bachmann!!! :D:D:D:D

[TXcarlosTX]

This guy isnt ready for primetime. but that massie guy was a CHAMP!!!

[kusok]

Good speaker. Any hot girls there? I see some.

[d991]

Wasn't some pastor in Iowa trying to get Bachmann to drop out so her supporters could go to Santorum? I'd love to see his face right now!

[unknown]

"Takes a Veteran to understand a Veteran"!!!

[Cshelton21]

Love the "He Served" ad

[z9000]

RON IS ON

[ronpaulfollower999]

Masonic guy again when they introduced the doctor!! :eek:

[unknown]

Hahahaha, AWESOME!!!

[SilentViking]

Good speaker. Any hot girls there? I see some.
This man has his priorities straight!

[Cshelton21]

hahah two hotties at least!

[z9000]

deleted

[notsure]

Hellloo Lisa, or Linda. or Both.

[Cshelton21]

heckler?

[pauliticalfan]

Heckler? WTF

[ronpaulfollower999]

Wtf?

[nyrgoal99]

Bruno-What is going on???

[dbill27]

Occupy.?

[Cowlesy]

My TimeWarnerCable just cut out.

[IndianaPolitico]

Protesters...

[CrissyNY]

what???

[IterTemporis]

Whoa!

[unknown]

OWS?

[Maximus]

Fucking occupiers

[pauliticalfan]

Shame on this heckler. No class.

[robmpreston]

Oh lord. LOL.

[Cshelton21]

Yes!

[nyrgoal99]

ITS BRUNO!!!!!!!!!

just kidding

[CrissyNY]

freedom of speech is wonderful!!!!

[Bruno]

Ows interrupters

[z9000]

freedom of speech!

[pauliticalfan]

Student aid.

[Bigvick]

cnn plants

[bronxboy10]

LOLLLLLL

[Xelaetaks]

wow these occupiers are retarded

[notsure]

ewww. Those fake protestors are so gross.

[ronpaulfollower999]

Ron Paul, hell yeah!

[Liber Team]

retards

[pauliticalfan]

Ron Paul just owned them.

[Bigvick]

time for them to leave

[robmpreston]

Do we not have security here? Get rid of them.

[Xelaetaks]

wow mumbling retards. LOL

[bronxboy10]

How disrespectful.

[Liberty74]

And the socialist scumbags enter to disrupt.

[IndianaPolitico]

Wow, Ron just SHUT THEM DOWN!

[WD-NY]

My TimeWarnerCable just cut out.

so did mine.
(nyc)

[nyrgoal99]

Bruno-Does he use a teleprompter or just talk???

[dbill27]

Where's dan no now?

[Todd]

protesters.........and CSPAN giving them all the air time. :rolleyes:

[IterTemporis]

Why were they screaming like they were in pain..? I heard them saying 'Im a veteran.'

[simplyjacy]

it really angers me to see those disrespectful "99%" :mad:

[ronpaulfollower999]

One lady said what about the children of the 99%. And I also heard something about student loans.

[nyrgoal99]

so did mine.
(nyc)

Get fios

Cheaper and better picture

[Liber Team]

we're big enough to be targeted now by occupiers

[kmalm585]

OWS is a misguided cause. They don't even know whom to attack, so they attack everyone, even the ones who would be in their best interest to support. Morons.

[Jack Bauer]

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs23/f/2007/362/7/c/The_Nazgul_by_dashingamit.jpg

[speciallyblend]

ows folks are freaking clueless!!!

[Evilfox]

Dr. Paul handled that very well. No doubt a plant and will be aired shortly on CNN/Fox

[unknown]

Bruno, get 'em!

[Barrex]

So what they were screaming about? What was their agenda?

[CrissyNY]

they were totally screaming, I couldn't understand anything

[WD-NY]

Ron Paul's voice sounds SUPER CONFIDENT.

Is he reading more or less from a prepared speech?

[Fermli]

Paul seems off his game bc of the protestors

[Lafayette]

I heard 99% in there somewhere, if they are occupy protesters they are at the wrong campaign rally.

[Maximus]

Figures they attack the guy who would end the wars at the veteran rally... freaking stupid.

[Evilfox]

They were trying to say they were veterans too and the dont support him.

[hb6102]

Nice of the crowd to drown that twirp out

[kusok]

What was she yelling about???


She sure picked the right candidate to yell at... *eyeroll*

[pauliticalfan]

This is golden in a Republican primary.

[nyrgoal99]

Ron Paul's voice sounds SUPER CONFIDENT.

Is he reading more or less from a prepared speech?

That is what I want to know

[TXcarlosTX]

Ron like a CHAMP!!

[dbill27]

OWs disrupting will only make repubs like Ron more

[speciallyblend]

end the wars

[pauliticalfan]

Fight em, win em, and get em over with!

[unknown]

I cant even make my calls...watching this.

[Maximus]

Paul seems off his game bc of the protestors

he's fine now. I'd be thrown off too if morons started screaming right at the start of my speech.

[hazek]

ows folks are freaking clueless!!!

All they see is 99% vs 1% and they don't stop for even a second to ask the question where this situation came from and what needs to be done to solve it. They only see the apparent, that they are poor while others bathe in money and so they want some of that money to be redistributed to them. And that's it.

[IndianaPolitico]

Bruno, Give Ron an extra cheer from me!

[Cshelton21]

Someone please make this man President.

[d991]

OWS people are those who cannot think for themselves even though they like to think of themselves as free thinkers. They don't understand the issues and rely on others to tell them who and why to protest. From what I have seen most are protesting simply for the sake of protesting.

[69360]

What was the blond ows girl screeching about? I couldn't understand a word. I got 99%

[IndianaPolitico]

Thinking about it, only Ron Paul would of shouted out specifically that freedom of speech needed to be protected, while he was being screamed at.

[ronpaulfollower999]

Where are the teleprompters?

[Liberty74]

All they see is 99% vs 1% and they don't stop for even a second to ask the question where this situation came from and what needs to be done to solve it. They only see the apparent, that they are poor while others bathe in money and so they want some of that money to be redistributed to them. And that's it.

They are called MASS TOOLS for Socialists, Marxists and Commies.

[IndianaPolitico]

What was the blond ows girl screeching about? I couldn't understand a word. I got 99%
Something about he wouldn't give people money...

[KramerDSP]

Those protestors sort of messed with the mojo and threw off the positive feelings in the crowd. A bunch of people are stewing about the idiot protestors and Ron's speech seems a bit off.

[unknown]

Peace and fiscal responsibility are WAY over rated.

More wars, more debt!!!

[Lafayette]

What was the blond ows girl screeching about? I couldn't understand a word. I got 99%

I got two pharses out of the whole thing, "99%" and "my husband is a veteran too" no doubt someone from the media or one of us will interview them.

[IterTemporis]

I don't like how they say 'We are the 99%'... You are part of the 99%, that means that not everyone is just like you.

[Bruno]

Bruno-Does he use a teleprompter or just talk???

No teleprompter, may have note cards. Mostly Ron being Ron. :)

[unknown]

Thinking about it, only Ron Paul would of shouted out specifically that freedom of speech needed to be protected, while he was being screamed at.

Lets hope America realizes the decency and truth that we have in this man.

[nyrgoal99]

No teleprompter, may have note cards. Mostly Ron being Ron. :)

That is what I thought

Thanks

He has given this speech a few times

[Liberty74]

Drudge just posted Bachmann defect to Paul. :p

[ronpaulfollower999]

That is what I thought

Thanks

He has given this speech a few times

Same one for 40 years.

[Canderson]

Ehhh... This speech isn't the best. I wish he would have written something. He probably got a little distracted by OWS

[coffeewithgames]

I'm not really feeling this. I feel like the "veterans" rally, isn't really a rally right now.

Like, I was looking more for a "feel good" positive speech, not more of what we've been hearing from him already. Now he's pitching his $1 trillion budget cut? Again...rally for "veterans"? Talk about the veterans, show examples of where the government wastes money repeatedly, and show how it neglects our veterans REPEATEDLY.
Am I missing something?

[nyrgoal99]

Ehhh... This speech isn't the best. I wish he would have written something. He probably got a little distracted by OWS

This is the 3rd to 4th speech of the day

[KramerDSP]

Now he is hitting his groove!

[WD-NY]

That is what I want to know

update: his voice is hit or miss now (depends on how well/cleanly he delivers the point he's trying to make). When he doesn't need to think about what he's going to say next, his voice = solid. But you can definitely tell when he's thinking about what should come next... his voice wavers a little bit.

Ah well.. hopefully he has something prepared for next Tuesday night.

[ronpaulfollower999]

Love how he delivered the bring the troops home line.

[Bruno]

How cool, he has made eye contact with me a number of times.

[69360]

Something about he wouldn't give people money...


I got two pharses out of the whole thing, "99%" and "my husband is a veteran too" no doubt someone from the media or one of us will interview them.

Typical ows. Gimme free stuff. :rolleyes:

[kusok]

He is doing fine, it's the same speech he gave 20 years ago... lol,

It's not the "what if" speech, but it's not bad. Sure, the protester was bad, and Ron looks tired. But it's normal. He is taking his time now, smiling, he is fine.

[walt]

This speech needs to be more about veterans...foreign policy...it's not what was advertised...a fine Ron Paul speech, but a lost chance to correct false perceptions.

[kusok]

How cool, he has made eye contact with me a number of times.


Start the Ron Paul chant next applause. To give Ron time to catch his breath and re-set after the protesters.

[Lafayette]

How cool, he has made eye contact with me a number of times.

Stop looking at him, your throwing his speech off :p

[coffeewithgames]

Stick to veterans topics please, stop with the $1 trillion cut, stop with the Federal Reserve...seriously RP campaign, why is this a "veterans" rally, and there is so much other stuff being talked about?

[nyrgoal99]

People are too critical. I have been here since RP was at 0-1% in 2007. He is doing fine

[Fermli]

END THE FED !

[pauladin]

hope ows doesn't try to spoil his caucus victory speech.

[kusok]

Was that you alone in the end with the "End the Fed" Bruno?

[nyrgoal99]

Stick to veterans topics please, stop with the $1 trillion cut, stop with the Federal Reserve...seriously RP campaign, why is this a "veterans" rally, and there is so much other stuff being talked about?

You planning to vote for Romney?

[ronpaulfollower999]

Masonic guy has to be a CSPAN plant. He's standing right in front of the camera.

[affa]

How cool, he has made eye contact with me a number of times.

well, you do look just like him. i can only tell you two apart because you wear shades.

[IndianaPolitico]

well, you do look just like him. i can only tell you two apart because you wear shades.
LOL

[coffeewithgames]

This speech needs to be more about veterans...foreign policy...it's not what was advertised...a fine Ron Paul speech, but a lost chance to correct false perceptions.

I agree, unless this ends with a homerun, I don't see where this is going positively for a "veterans" rally, which is a big huge failure on the campaign's part....puuuhhhlease prove me wrong.

[unknown]

Stick to veterans topics please, stop with the $1 trillion cut, stop with the Federal Reserve...seriously RP campaign, why is this a "veterans" rally, and there is so much other stuff being talked about?

Its all related.

The spending, the economy, the militarism, our freedoms here at home...

[ronpaulfollower999]

hope ows doesn't try to spoil his caucus victory speech.

Eh...you know it's going to happen but I'm sure Ron will have a kick ass response.

[nyrgoal99]

Lots of military talk Very good

[walt]

Stick to veterans topics please, stop with the $1 trillion cut, stop with the Federal Reserve...seriously RP campaign, why is this a "veterans" rally, and there is so much other stuff being talked about?

+1,000,000

what is more disturbing is this is a pro-ron group based on the end the fed chant, why doesn't this campaign get undecided voters out to these events?

[Fermli]

How cool, he has made eye contact with me a number of times.

haha that's cute. are you blushing?

[happyphilter]

Don;t worry about his speech not being too great. What's going to stick is the OWS disruption and how he handled it.

[coffeewithgames]

You planning to vote for Romney?

Stop changing the topic, I'm not the only one that thinks this could be going better. You need to watch my YouTube videos if you think I'm voting for anybody else.

[IndianaPolitico]

Going back to foreign policy.

[nyrgoal99]

"Campaign Rally with Veterans"

This looks like a rally

I see veterans


What am i missing?

[Cshelton21]

Yeah and the OWS thing is great for primary's.

[agorist ninja]

I really do not like all of the negativity that pops up in these types of threads.

You realize that Ron has gotten to this point by doing exactly what he is doing, right? He'll be fine. Stop wetting your pants.

[agorist ninja]

I really do not like all of the negativity that pops up in these types of threads.

You realize that Ron has gotten to this point by doing exactly what he is doing, right? He'll be fine. Stop wetting your pants.

[Sola_Fide]

I agree, unless this ends with a homerun, I don't see where this is going positively for a "veterans" rally, which is a big huge failure on the campaign's part....puuuhhhlease prove me wrong.

Why be so negative? We're winning.

[unknown]

Masonic guy has to be a CSPAN plant. He's standing right in front of the camera.

Who where I have yet to see this guy...

[pauliticalfan]

Good rally.

[Cshelton21]

I'm so glad He's covering the NDAA.

[IndianaPolitico]

Ron going back to the topics he does the best with.

[Barrex]

He mentioned me (INTERNET)... close enough

[Cshelton21]

And SOPA! Get em!

[d991]

I don't get why some people here are upset the veterans aren't being talked about more. Paul's whole argument is that the veterans have sacrificed so much to defend the constitution and he's pointing out how the politicians in Washington aren't upholding the constitution that those in the military have fought and died to defend.

[nyrgoal99]

I don't get why some people here are upset the veterans aren't being talked about more. Paul's whole argument is that the veterans have sacrificed so much to defend the constitution and he's pointing out how the politicians in Washington aren't upholding the constitution that those in the military have fought and died to defend.

agreed

[ronpaulfollower999]

Who where I have yet to see this guy...

Guy at the rally is wearing a grand mason jacket. I'm just teasing about him being a plant. :p

[unknown]

why doesn't this campaign get undecided voters out to these events?

I would think there have to be some undecideds in there. But you also have to energize the base as they are the ones who support us and recruit others.

[Bruno]

haha that's cute. are you blushing?

A little! :)

[Maximus]

Ron's getting his groove back on

[KramerDSP]

He's doing much better in the scond half of his speech.

[Lafayette]

I really do not like all of the negativity that pops up in these types of threads.

You realize that Ron has gotten to this point by doing exactly what he is doing, right? He'll be fine. Stop wetting your pants.

Indeed, I totally trust Paul and the campaign to do what they think is best, otherwise i wouldn't have donated repeatedly.

Everything Paul is saying ties in perfectly with veterans, no more sending them to war in far away lands to defend our "freedom" meanwhile at home our freedoms are taken away and the greatest danger to our nation is the debt and devaluation of our currency.

[WD-NY]

Ron's pretty much going completely off the cuff.... nothing wrong with that of course... but there's a time and place for stump speeches. And a televised veterans rally probably isn't it.

Each time the audience claps, Ron jumps topics.

Good example of why having a written speech as a guide = helpful. Without a prepared text, Ron has a tendency to jump around from one 'bread and butter' topic to the next.

[Jandrsn21]

I really do not like all of the negativity that pops up in these types of threads.

You realize that Ron has gotten to this point by doing exactly what he is doing, right? He'll be fine. Stop wetting your pants.

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