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pguitarb
11-08-2007, 06:13 PM
They are talking about the RP v. Bernake faceoff earlier today. Kudlow just said Ron will be on coming up soon!

tsetsefly
11-08-2007, 06:17 PM
utube utube

MsDoodahs
11-08-2007, 06:17 PM
Frikken AMAZING Paul support.

Ron will be up next.

LibertyEagle
11-08-2007, 06:21 PM
Has he been on yet?

JAHOGS
11-08-2007, 06:23 PM
who the hell is Kudlow. What channel

Magsec
11-08-2007, 06:23 PM
I think it's CNBC.

KewlRonduderules
11-08-2007, 06:24 PM
CNBC.

I think it will be the last segment of the show. They said they were saving the best for last.

JAHOGS
11-08-2007, 06:25 PM
Cool, he was just on Fox Business News recently, probably waiting for him to get all wired up before coming on. The Fox Business News interview was great and long. The same ole great Dr. Paul on FBN a minute ago.

Tyler19
11-08-2007, 06:25 PM
I think this will be a hit piece.

He just said berneke and greenspan were doing good job.

JosephTheLibertarian
11-08-2007, 06:25 PM
is all this talk based on what Ron Paul said?

son of liberty
11-08-2007, 06:26 PM
RON PAUL needs to get credit for being RIGHT if the economy crashes. I'm going to start pushing his views on the ECONOMY.

I've heard theories that the Elite will blame "us" for living beyond our means, and that
Power will blame it on terrorism (FBI just said Malls in danger of attacks. Banks are also targets.) We all know who will really be to blame, and who deserves credit for warning us!

grfgerger
11-08-2007, 06:27 PM
he's catching on

Chester Copperpot
11-08-2007, 06:29 PM
was h eon ?

garrettwombat
11-08-2007, 06:29 PM
no he is about to come on still...

tcmaroc
11-08-2007, 06:30 PM
was h eon ?

not yet

I Am Weasel
11-08-2007, 06:30 PM
on where? CSPAN? Or CSPAN2?

KewlRonduderules
11-08-2007, 06:31 PM
I think this will be a hit piece.

He just said berneke and greenspan were doing good job.

Not so fast, he said that he put Berneke to shame today.

Let's see what he says.

;)

garrettwombat
11-08-2007, 06:31 PM
i think something good is about to happen

MsDoodahs
11-08-2007, 06:32 PM
It is on CNBC, their business channel.

For Direct TV users, channel 355.

fcofer
11-08-2007, 06:32 PM
EXCELLENT remark there from the host (paraphrased): Later we'll hear from Ron Paul, who had a huge day recently raising more than 4 million dollars, and earlier today he took Bernacke all the way to the woodshed!

garrettwombat
11-08-2007, 06:32 PM
you know its pretty sad that it took money to make people actually pay attention to paul

terlinguatx
11-08-2007, 06:33 PM
...

Tyler19
11-08-2007, 06:34 PM
I think Kudlow is pretty nuetral

JosephTheLibertarian
11-08-2007, 06:34 PM
kudlow is trying to make damage control

devil21
11-08-2007, 06:35 PM
ABC News just posted an article about Ron Paul's questioning of Bernanke.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3839318&page=1

dt_
11-08-2007, 06:36 PM
was Paul on the show yet?

Tyler19
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
no he was not, were at commercial now

Ron Paul Fan
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
He's on next!

krott5333
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
Ron Paul coming up.

"He raised 4 million dollars in a day and took Bernanke to the woodshed.. not bad for a days work"

coming up next!

garrettwombat
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
Uh Oh... 6 Against 1... Watch Ron Own Them All To The Woodshed!

risiusj
11-08-2007, 06:39 PM
Coming up after commercials

Paraphrasing
Coming up Ron Paul. He raised 4 million bucks online in one day. Today he took Bernanke out to the woodshed.

Tyler19
11-08-2007, 06:39 PM
They are interviewing him with a panel of like 6 people! I hope this is a good one.,

RPatTheBeach
11-08-2007, 06:39 PM
I thought he was just going to have two guests arguing over ron paul, not the man himself? Perhaps I misheard

Hurricane Bruiser
11-08-2007, 06:39 PM
Woodshed baby.

OptionsTrader
11-08-2007, 06:40 PM
is all this talk based on what Ron Paul said?

Kudlow interviews RP from time to time on CNBC. Kudlow is a perma bull on the market, to the point of being flawd in his analysis of the Fed, and will not agree with RP 100%, but he will be respectful. The panel will be neutral to supportive.

Tyler19
11-08-2007, 06:41 PM
yeah I like Kudlow. He seems fair.

Ron Paul Fan
11-08-2007, 06:41 PM
Uh Oh... 6 Against 1... Watch Ron Own Them All To The Woodshed!

Don Luskin I know is on Paul's side. Forbes is a neo-con who works for Rudy. Not sure about the other two.

fcofer
11-08-2007, 06:41 PM
He said 7 million in one day!!! Wups? Hahahaha!

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 06:44 PM
youtube? LOL :D Just kidding. Really someone should figure out how to time travel 10mins into the future and have youtubes ready for all the people that ask for them 3 seconds after an interview is over...

davidkachel
11-08-2007, 06:44 PM
ABC News just posted an article about Ron Paul's questioning of Bernanke.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3839318&page=1

This is a hit piece.

dt_
11-08-2007, 06:44 PM
"PAUL ON COMPETITING CURRENCY"

lol typo'd

Tyler19
11-08-2007, 06:45 PM
what a great interview. Ron Paul is so smart.

spacebetween
11-08-2007, 06:45 PM
This is a wonderful interview. GOSH RP is SOOO intelligent!

I'd LOVEEEE to see ANY of the other candidates having a conversation like this!

Ron Paul Fan
11-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Phenomenal Fundraising Story! Bewildering! Paul forgot how much money we raised! LOL!

SeanEdwards
11-08-2007, 06:46 PM
The Kudlow interview is giving me a rongasm.

fcofer
11-08-2007, 06:46 PM
This is a phenomenal interview! This is excellent.

Too bad he had to add that inevitable, "Will you run as a third party candidate."

ronpaulfan
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
So much money was raised that Ron Paul himself didn't know the exact number :p

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
Ron always has his best interviews when they are on economics, seeing as how it was his initial reason d'etre in politics.

garrettwombat
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
Yeah lets have a discussion without ron paul actually being there... that way he wont put all you clowns to rest.

spacebetween
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
I can't wait for the discussion afterwards.

That was wonderful!! I hope that somebody YouTubed it. :D

American
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
loll he didnt remember how much money was raised the other day.....=\

WOW, he needs to take a break.

Tyler19
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
The panel is now going to talk about it after commercial.
Lets see what they say

T206
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
The interesting part will be seeing the next segment where the guests talk about the interview.

risiusj
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
How much will this panel rip into Paul when he has no ability to respond?
I'm guessing a lot.

0zzy
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
He doesn't even know how much he raised! He must be tired :P

JAHOGS
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
he did the same thing on FBN just before this interview.

wfd40
11-08-2007, 06:48 PM
Bam!!

Richandler
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
Competing monetary systems! Stop taxing money! Wow. Stuff. That. Makes. Sense.

spacebetween
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
Yeah lets have a discussion without ron paul actually being there... that way he wont put all you clowns to rest.

Don Luskin is a fan of Ron Paul. I can see Don standing up for the doctor.

werdd
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
seriously guys did any of you notice he acted like he didnt know ho wmuch he raised? I think hes trying to give his site some hits or something, make people do research

V4Vendetta
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
Fantastic Interview!!!!!!!!

sparebulb
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
HOME RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kudlow was very fair. Let's see what he says when RP is not there.

Jordan
11-08-2007, 06:50 PM
Other than forgetting the fundraising number, a great interview. Kudlow really threw questions that were important to his campaign

Copperhed51
11-08-2007, 06:50 PM
Somebody please youtube the discussion afterwards too. I really wanna see what these people have to say about him.

ronpaulfan
11-08-2007, 06:51 PM
seriously guys did any of you notice he acted like he didnt know ho wmuch he raised? I think hes trying to give his site some hits or something, make people do research

Don't forget, there was a lot of offline dollars added on Nov 5th. The official FEC numbers may be a lot lower.

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 06:51 PM
What would be really great is if all this RP talk starts to open up some regular guest commentary spots for people that share Ron's economic philosophy. Hell, it'd even be fine if everyone disagrees with them. Would make these business/econ shows a hell of lot more entertaining and informative.

(everyone does know that RP didn't come up with his economic philosophy by himself right?)

garrettwombat
11-08-2007, 06:51 PM
haha what was that? after the commercial????

ladyliberty
11-08-2007, 06:51 PM
Wow he said he agrees with Ron Pauls monetary views!!!!!!!!!!

dt_
11-08-2007, 06:51 PM
Can anyone explain this to me?

What's this idea of "competing currencies"? Does Ron want us to have more than just the dollar? Like... a New York dollar, a Pennsylvania dollar, etc.? O_o

WHOA Don Luskin just said "GO RON PAUL!"

Starks
11-08-2007, 06:51 PM
Go! Ron Paul!

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Don't forget, there was a lot of offline dollars added on Nov 5th. The official FEC numbers may be a lot lower.

wasn't it ~400K or something around there?

Ron Paul Fan
11-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Kudlow found Paul's economic views interesting! Luskin agrees! Shutup neo-con Forbes!

brandon
11-08-2007, 06:52 PM
wow, simply amazing

Richandler
11-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Dude why is Forbes endorsing Giuliani when he agrees with Paul sooooo much~!

RobS
11-08-2007, 06:53 PM
This was great.. everybody on the show is talking about him. Awesomeness!

MsDoodahs
11-08-2007, 06:53 PM
OMG.

I have to tell you guys, when Ron Paul mentioned "The Road to Serfdom," I burst into tears.
:o

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 06:53 PM
Can anyone explain this to me?

What's this idea of "competing currencies"? Does Ron want us to have more than just the dollar? Like... a New York dollar, a Pennsylvania dollar, etc.? O_o

WHOA Don Luskin just said "GO RON PAUL!"

The idea would be to legalize competition with the federal reserve note, by repealing capital gains taxes on precious metals, repealing legal tender laws, etc.

0zzy
11-08-2007, 06:54 PM
FXX the last dude. "These libertarians want to legalize drugs are probably smoking pot!"
THE FUCK DUDE.

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 06:54 PM
OMG.

I have to tell you guys, when Ron Paul mentioned "The Road to Serfdom," I burst into tears.
:o

What's funny is Limbaugh used to sell that book on his website back in the 90's....

Joey Wahoo
11-08-2007, 06:54 PM
Can anyone explain this to me?

What's this idea of "competing currencies"? Does Ron want us to have more than just the dollar? Like... a New York dollar, a Pennsylvania dollar, etc.? O_o

WHOA Don Luskin just said "GO RON PAUL!"

He says the Treasury should issue notes directly, backed by gold reserves. This currency would circulate simultaneously with the current fiat Federal Reserve Notes. Likely prices would be different depending upon which currency you use. Gold backed currency would be less prone to inflation, to say the least.

freelance
11-08-2007, 06:54 PM
Did I just hear Forbes say that the dollar is rock solid? I didn't catch the whole thing.

0zzy
11-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Did I just hear Forbes say that the dollar is rock solid? I didn't catch the whole thing.

I think he wants to directly back the dollar by gold.

Paulestinian
11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
4 out of 5 financial analysts recommend Dr. Paul! :D

asdf
11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
Did I just hear Forbes say that the dollar is rock solid? I didn't catch the whole thing.No, he said if it was backed by gold it would be rock solid and everyone would want to deal in dollars because of it's stability.

drexhex
11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
Ok, I didn't catch the name of the guy, but seriously - bringing the legalization of drugs and pot-smoking into a currency discussion? I know that legalization could bring income, but that's quite a stretch to make for that guy.

Although, President Paul got support from almost everyone :D

freelance
11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
Thanks Ozzy. That statement standing alone made no sense at all.

devil21
11-08-2007, 06:56 PM
Did I just hear Forbes say that the dollar is rock solid? I didn't catch the whole thing.

He said the dollar would be rock solid if it were backed by gold. While the rest of the world's currencies float around in value, they would always turn back to the dollar because it is stable.

sparebulb
11-08-2007, 06:57 PM
What's funny is Limbaugh used to sell that book on his website back in the 90's....

And Rush is the one that is on drugs.........not RP!

Starks
11-08-2007, 06:57 PM
I also have a new found respect for Don Luskin.

Richandler
11-08-2007, 06:58 PM
FXX the last dude. "These libertarians want to legalize drugs are probably smoking pot!"
THE FUCK DUDE.

It's true there is no reason Marijuana should be illegal. It's less harmful than alcohol and tobacco. I think that guy just wants all the crack for himself.

JosephTheLibertarian
11-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Dude why is Forbes endorsing Giuliani when he agrees with Paul sooooo much~!

because he's an elitist neo-con

LibertyEagle
11-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Don't forget, there was a lot of offline dollars added on Nov 5th. The official FEC numbers may be a lot lower.

Our online numbers per ronpaulgraphs, were still right at 4 mil and don't forget, there would have been some other offline contributions that day which were not included. We'll be fine.

runderwo
11-08-2007, 06:58 PM
I don't understand people that jump back at the idea of competing currencies. In this world of Visa, Mastercard, Discover, Amex, and so on, you would think that there would be room for competition in the currency.

AceNZ
11-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Can anyone explain this to me?
What's this idea of "competing currencies"? Does Ron want us to have more than just the dollar? Like... a New York dollar, a Pennsylvania dollar, etc.? O_o


I believe RP's idea is to first repeal the Legal Tender laws, which say that Federal Reserve Notes are required to be accept "for all debts, public and private". That would then be followed by the introduction of hard money -- gold *coins* (the Constitution doesn't allow paper money). At that point, there would be two competing currencies, Federal Reserve Notes and gold. That would then encourage people to move to gold, since it would be the stronger and more stable of the two.

Vvick727
11-08-2007, 06:58 PM
I just had the most badass image in my head:

At a meeting of President Paul and Bernanke.
Bernanke asks him why the Treasury is now printing up money when we have the Federal Reserve to do that.

President Paul comes back with "What, you can't handle a bit of friendly competition?"

That, guaranteed, would make Bernanke's head implode as well as hit headlines around the world.

terlinguatx
11-08-2007, 06:59 PM
...

specsaregood
11-08-2007, 06:59 PM
He said the dollar would be rock solid if it were backed by gold. While the rest of the world's currencies float around in value, they would always turn back to the dollar because it is stable.

Which means that Forbes in essence completely agrees with Ron Paul, because that is a Gold standard.

The difference is that Ron Paul is pragmatic and realizes we can't just go to a gold standard immediately, hence his ideas for competing currencies and phasing out the Fiat currency through competition.

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 07:00 PM
I just had the most badass image in my head:

At a meeting of President Paul and Bernanke.
Bernanke asks him why the Treasury is now printing up money when we have the Federal Reserve to do that.

President Paul comes back with "What, you can't handle a bit of friendly competition?"

That would make Bernanke's head implode as well as hit headlines around the world.

The government already prints the dollars.

Does RP really advocate having the government issue a new currency itself?

Copperhed51
11-08-2007, 07:02 PM
The Fed prints the dollars and backs them with nothing. It's just paper. And the more you put in, the less value each one has. A competing currency, like gold and silver, would actually be backed by something and couldn't be devalued by just printing more. You have to have the backing.

Joey Wahoo
11-08-2007, 07:03 PM
The government already prints the dollars.

Does RP really advocate having the government issue a new currency itself?

Yes. Issued directly by the Treasury (rather than the Federal Reserve Bank) and backed by gold. It would circulate in competition with our existing currency (which are called Federal Reserve Notes as you will note if you look at the front of one of them)

Richandler
11-08-2007, 07:03 PM
This is so frusterating that there isn't a huge movement for this right now. We must educate!!!

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 07:04 PM
Which means that Forbes in essence completely agrees with Ron Paul, because that is a Gold standard.

The difference is that Ron Paul is pragmatic and realizes we can't just go to a gold standard immediately, hence his ideas for competing currencies and phasing out the Fiat currency through competition.

Why not? Just take (dollar supply) / (gold on hand) and set the dollar at that ratio. Stop making more dollars. Done. BIG correction in the market. But then all good. ;)

ItsTime
11-08-2007, 07:04 PM
oh ya... the #3 ad for Ron Paul was played here in New Hampshire right before this interview :D

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Yes. Issued directly by the Treasury (rather than the Federal Reserve Bank) and backed by gold. It would circulate in competition with our existing currency (which are called Federal Reserve Notes as you will note if you look at the front of one of them)

Where are they printed? (The FRNs)

Copperhed51
11-08-2007, 07:05 PM
So should I still buy gold or is it too late?

Libertarian
11-08-2007, 07:05 PM
Somebody please youtube the discussion afterwards too. I really wanna see what these people have to say about him.

darn I paused the TV after the interview and missed the discussion too...stupid DVR switched channels to record something else.

Someone please Youtube it! ;)

runderwo
11-08-2007, 07:06 PM
The Fed prints the dollars and backs them with nothing. It's just paper. And the more you put in, the less value each one has. A competing currency, like gold and silver, would actually be backed by something and couldn't be devalued by just printing more. You have to have the backing.

No that's not true, they are backed by collateral that is used to borrow the dollars on open market operations. That collateral can be T-bills or any other kind of security Fed approves of. Lately Fed has even been allowing mortgage backed securities to be used as OMO collateral. Fed prints money for the Treasury and gets T-bills in exchange. So it's backed by a bunch of debt. Hence the phrase "monetization of debt".

specsaregood
11-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Why not? Just take (dollar supply) / (gold on hand) and set the dollar at that ratio. Stop making more dollars. Done. BIG correction in the market. But then all good. ;)

I think the point is to get there using the free market and competition rather than through force and sudden shocking change. But I could be wrong.

Joey Wahoo
11-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Where are they printed? (The FRNs)

The Bureau of Engraving and Printing

mport1
11-08-2007, 07:08 PM
Youtube?

Razmear
11-08-2007, 07:09 PM
So should I still buy gold or is it too late?

I'd personally invest in nickel, but that's just me.

eb

Avalon
11-08-2007, 07:10 PM
So should I still buy gold or is it too late?

Ron Paul is a much better investment at this point.

ThePieSwindler
11-08-2007, 07:11 PM
youtubee?

Libertarian
11-08-2007, 07:13 PM
No that's not true, they are backed by collateral that is used to borrow the dollars on open market operations. Fed prints money for the Treasury and gets T-bills in exchange. So it's backed by a bunch of debt.

So the dollar is actually backed by something?

Sweet! I feel much so better now! :)

Karsten
11-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Youtube or it didn't happen.

literatim
11-08-2007, 07:15 PM
So the dollar is actually backed by something?

Sweet! I feel much so better now! :)

It's backed by stupidity.

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 07:15 PM
It's backed by stupidity.

LOL!

Mandrik
11-08-2007, 07:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZsZ0_OLer4

TY freemebgw for the upload!

The Good Doctor
11-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Thank you!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZsZ0_OLer4

TY freemebgw for the upload!

Adamsa
11-08-2007, 07:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZsZ0_OLer4

TY freemebgw for the upload!

I love freemeebgw.

Chase
11-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Thanks for the youtube! Anyone have a cap of the followup?

Jordan
11-08-2007, 07:22 PM
Silver is a better investment than gold. Its more rare, has more uses, and is kept artificially low through many short sellers. Silver is not only a protection against a falling dollar, its also going to accelerate at investment grade speeds.

iddo
11-08-2007, 07:23 PM
What's this idea of "competing currencies"?

He says the Treasury should issue notes directly, backed by gold reserves. This currency would circulate simultaneously with the current fiat Federal Reserve Notes. Likely prices would be different depending upon which currency you use. Gold backed currency would be less prone to inflation, to say the least.

I think that's accurate. Ron Paul was on Fox Business Network on October 16 and the interviewer asked him near the end to clarify if he meant that we would have a new currency in addition to the dollar. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXfDHXpP87o (note again, this is the interview from October 16, not from today).

tcmaroc
11-08-2007, 07:25 PM
I believe RP's idea is to first repeal the Legal Tender laws, which say that Federal Reserve Notes are required to be accept "for all debts, public and private". That would then be followed by the introduction of hard money -- gold *coins* (the Constitution doesn't allow paper money). At that point, there would be two competing currencies, Federal Reserve Notes and gold. That would then encourage people to move to gold, since it would be the stronger and more stable of the two.


What's would happed to the value of the dollar then?

tsetsefly
11-08-2007, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the youtube! Anyone have a cap of the followup?

yes, follow up please!

Mandrik
11-08-2007, 07:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNH5Xy8_0NM

You suckers need to subscribe to all the people who post RP videos. :D

wfd40
11-08-2007, 07:28 PM
Hyack?? LOL - notice how clever Kudlow thinks he was dropping that name.. ;)

The Good Doctor
11-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Anybody think that his eyebrows didn't need to be dyed so dark? My goodness! That is the first thing I noticed!

But hey, hell of a freaking interview! It rocked! :D


Thank you!

DrNoZone
11-08-2007, 07:31 PM
Hyack?? LOL - notice how clever Kudlow thinks he was dropping that name.. ;)

That was awesome.

Nash
11-08-2007, 07:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNH5Xy8_0NM

You suckers need to subscribe to all the people who post RP videos. :D

Done. You have a new subscriber.

Did Steve Forbes just basically endorse Ron Paul's monetary policy? Wow!

Rudy is gonna be maaaaad!!!

Joey Wahoo
11-08-2007, 07:33 PM
outstanding. another home run for Dr. Paul

ChristopherJ
11-08-2007, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNH5Xy8_0NM

You suckers need to subscribe to all the people who post RP videos. :D

Ha no way!! Jim LaCamp works in my office building. Guess I'll ask him about Ron Paul next time I see him :)

Mandrik
11-08-2007, 07:34 PM
Done. You have a new subscriber.

Did Steve Forbes just basically endorse Ron Paul's monetary policy? Wow!

Rudy is gonna be maaaaad!!!

Don't subscribe to me, subscribe to the people I subscribe to. All I got are two WoW videos from back in my WoW days. :p

MS0453
11-08-2007, 07:35 PM
Hyack?? LOL - notice how clever Kudlow thinks he was dropping that name.. ;)



Lol..I've heard him mention him before. One time, some economist (Steve Moore maybe?) came on and was trying to brag about Rudy being some great free-marketer and Kudlow started talking about Rudy being Hayek or Ludwig von Mises..It was really out there.

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Lol..I've heard him mention him before. One time, some economist (Steve Moore maybe?) came on and was trying to brag about Rudy being some great free-marketer and Kudlow started talking about Rudy being Hayek or Ludwig von Mises..It was really out there.

OMG Rudy = Mises???? WTF???

V4Vendetta
11-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Another Fantastic Interview!!!!!

Libertarian
11-08-2007, 07:36 PM
Silver is a better investment than gold. Its more rare, has more uses, and is kept artificially low through many short sellers. Silver is not only a protection against a falling dollar, its also going to accelerate at investment grade speeds.

There is less silver above ground today than gold. Very few people know that ;)

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 07:38 PM
There is less silver above ground today than gold. Very few people know that ;)

Is silver used more in industry than gold? I honestly don't know? I know silver is a better conductor...

MS0453
11-08-2007, 07:40 PM
OMG Rudy = Mises???? WTF???

I found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEDR23Nr8so

Keep a barf bag near.

LinearChaos
11-08-2007, 07:53 PM
If you want a good explanation of how the new gold standard would most likely be implemented, check out yesterday's interview of Lew Rockwell by Scott Horton from Antiwar Radio. It is great, all about the rEVOLution, the central banks, etc:

Antiwar Radio: Lew Rockwell (http://thestressblog.com/2007/11/07/antiwar-radio-lew-rockwell/)

Description:

“Bernanke should go around in a Devil suit.”

Lew Rockwell, discusses the Ron Paul Revolution and Revolutionaries, the myth of the government exception from the moral law, the connection between central banking and war, the growing awareness among the American people of the connection between central banking and war, the terrible consequences of inflation, what Ron Paul would probably do about it, the savings to be had in ending the empire, the War Party players and red state fascists who support Rudy Giuliani instead and Ron Paul’s position on defending America from al Qaeda.

Lew Rockwell:


Rockwell is the founder and President of the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama, Vice President of the Center for Libertarian Studies in Burlingame, California and publisher of the political weblog LewRockwell.com. Rockwell was closely associated with his teacher and colleague Murray Rothbard until Rothbard's death in 1995. Rockwell's political ideology, like Rothbard's in his later years, combines an anarcho-capitalist form of paleolibertarianism with cultural conservatism and the Austrian School of economics. Rockwell also espouses federalist concepts allowing the states very wide latitude and freedom from central government, secession and political decentralization. Rockwell is a Roman Catholic. He served as Ron Paul's congressional chief of staff between 1978 and 1982.
If you want to know Dr. Paul's mind, this interview is great. The other interviews on Antiwar.com are awesome too. Charles Goyette and Scott Horton FTW.

Energy
11-08-2007, 07:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNH5Xy8_0NM

You suckers need to subscribe to all the people who post RP videos. :D


Don Luskin (Trend Micro): "Bravo Bravissimo, GO RON PAUL!"

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Minlawc
11-08-2007, 08:01 PM
Done. You have a new subscriber.

Did Steve Forbes just basically endorse Ron Paul's monetary policy? Wow!

Rudy is gonna be maaaaad!!!

Didn't Forbes endorse Ron Paul back when he ran for Congress?

It's not surprising that he would agree with him on some issues.

angelatc
11-08-2007, 08:10 PM
He says the Treasury should issue notes directly, backed by gold reserves. This currency would circulate simultaneously with the current fiat Federal Reserve Notes. Likely prices would be different depending upon which currency you use. Gold backed currency would be less prone to inflation, to say the least.

I don't hate the idea, but the thing tha worries me is how to protect people that have all their assets in fiat currency instruments.

Blowback
11-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Is silver used more in industry than gold? I honestly don't know? I know silver is a better conductor...

Way more.

We all have limited resources including myself. I own a little gold but I place my big bet on silver.

Mandrik
11-08-2007, 08:16 PM
Way more.

We all have limited resources including myself. I own a little gold but I place my big bet on silver.

Silver is where it is at. I love my dad, but I made sure he put me down in his will for his big silver collection (which includes bars). "Hey dad, check out this bridge over here. Careful, it's a bit wet."

:D

0zzy
11-08-2007, 08:18 PM
Ha no way!! Jim LaCamp works in my office building. Guess I'll ask him about Ron Paul next time I see him :)

Ask him to stop being a dumbass and relating libertarianism to "OMG THEY LOVE TO SMOKE POT!"

ChristopherJ
11-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Ask him to stop being a dumbass and relating libertarianism to "OMG THEY LOVE TO SMOKE POT!"

Lighten up - It was a joke.

dmitchell
11-08-2007, 08:40 PM
This [ABC's Paul v. Bernanke article] is a hit piece.
Not at all.

alaric
11-08-2007, 08:41 PM
Didn't Forbes endorse Ron Paul back when he ran for Congress?

It's not surprising that he would agree with him on some issues.

Actually, steve sent me a snail mail a few months ago pushing ghouliani. I replied that i was ashamed of him and to look at Ron Paul.
:p

maxmerkel
11-08-2007, 09:02 PM
i don't understand the fuzz about forbes, he did not endorse ron paul and he did not agree on the competing currencies !
forbes wants to tie the value of the dollar to gold - and that i have to say is an tremendously stupid idea.

ron pauls idea of phasing out the fed through competing currencies, the biggest one of them for sure will be gold/silver, is the way to go.

freedominnumbers
11-08-2007, 09:04 PM
What's would happed to the value of the dollar then?

The value of the current fiat dollar is and would remain linked to it's management.
Just as other fiat currencies throughout the world have a value so would the current fiat dollar.

Realistically though the dollar would likely go out of existence because only a fool would deal in fiat money when he could have real money instead.

The challenge from the gold backed dollar is how do you keep them from ending up in China's vault making the US cash poor. With fiat money you just print more, with a backed currency you don't get that privilege. I suppose you might need a law such as Iraq has, which says Iraqi Dinar can't be taken out of the country.

murrayrothbard
11-08-2007, 09:08 PM
The challenge from the gold backed dollar is how do you keep them from ending up in China's vault making the US cash poor. With fiat money you just print more, with a backed currency you don't get that privilege. I suppose you might need a law such as Iraq has, which says Iraqi Dinar can't be taken out of the country.

Huh? What would it matter if I sent some guy in China a chunk of gold and he sent me a TV?

Alawn
11-08-2007, 09:37 PM
That interview and the discussion afterwards was great. One of the guys actually said "Go Ron Paul!" I think today was huge and he probably won over a lot of voters.

Arklatex
11-08-2007, 10:24 PM
I love freemeebgw.

Thank the efforts of this user, they go a long way. Please continue to make youtubes of dr. pauls appearances. this is one is espeically important to me because I respect Larry Kudlow and his show more than any other show of the 'mass media'. :D:D

Benaiah
11-09-2007, 06:38 AM
bump

AceNZ
11-16-2007, 06:29 AM
What's would happed to the value of the dollar then?

With competing currencies, the value of the dollar would fluctuate in the same way it does today again foreign currencies like the Euro or the Yen.

It's likely that over time, people would sell dollars and buy the hard money, since the value of dollars declines over time as the result of inflation, whereas hard money can't be inflated. Eventually a feedback loop would develop -- as the paper dollar declines, more and more people would sell their dollars and buy hard money, which pushes the dollar down further, and the cycle repeats.

BTW, in the 1800's it was possible for the public to bring a pile of gold or silver to the mint, and exchange it directly for gold or silver coins. Bringing back that system could be a great place to start.