BREAKING: Gingrich fails to get on VA ballot!! Down to Romney vs. Paul!!

[Kalebthefinn]

Ron Paul and Romney got enough signatures to get on the Virginia primary ballot.
Gingrich and all the rest FAILED to get enough votes!! And Gingrich LIVES in VA!

It's now down to Romney and Paul!!!

What does this mean for us?

This is about to get very interesting!



http://bearingdrift.com/2011/12/24/breaking-gingrich-2000-ballot-signatures-short/

[tsai3904]

Yup, confirmed by Virginia GOP.

http://www.facebook.com/VirginiaGOP/posts/10150436456360942


After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10k signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary.

[sailingaway]

My.

So this is why Gingrich was trying to distract people by attacking Ron on the newsletters he didn't write, as if Gingrich had a leg to stand on in the decency department.

[TheViper]

That link is overloaded.


But I keep seeing that Gingrich made it while Perry didn't.

[sailingaway]

Yup, confirmed by Virginia GOP.

http://www.facebook.com/VirginiaGOP/posts/10150436456360942

I don't use facebook much, would it be bad form to like that comment? :p

[sailingaway]

That link is overloaded.


But I keep seeing that Gingrich made it while Perry didn't.

It says after verification, Gingrich didn't make it.


Republican Party of Virginia
After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10k signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary.
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+rep to Kalebthefinn

[Echoes]

LOL

Gingrich was toast anyways.

[RedLightning]

Cool.

[jemuf]

Ron Paul and Romney got enough signatures to get on the Virginia primary ballot.
Gingrich and all the rest FAILED to get enough votes!! And Gingrich LIVES in VA!

It's now down to Romney and Paul!!!

What does this mean for us?

This is about to get very interesting!



http://bearingdrift.com/2011/12/24/breaking-gingrich-2000-ballot-signatures-short/

The link didn't work, but this one should: http://www.bearingdrift.com/

Somehow I have a feeling like Gingrich will pull one out of his hat.

[TheViper]

It says after verification, Gingrich didn't make it.

Saw that after I posted. I did a search on Google and saw several articles just 2 hours old saying that he did make it but if the Virginia GOP is saying otherwise, I'm inclined to take their word for it.

[BringBackLiberty]

This certainly makes things...interesting.

[eugenekop]

Will that make news though? Will the media be insistent in pointing out that in fact only 2 candidates can actually be elected? Or will they not stress this?

[cdw]

If Virginia is down to just two candidates, does that make its delegates winner-takes-all?

[NY-Dano]

nvm

[BringBackLiberty]

That's how I'm understanding it to be. (In relation to winner takes all)

[coffeewithgames]

Here's their own words, before we see it has been changed...
http://i.imgur.com/suhyg.jpg

[tsai3904]

If Virginia is down to just two candidates, does that make its delegates winner-takes-all?

Virginia has 33 CD and 13 AL delegates.

The CD delegates are winner take all in each of the 11 CDs and the 13 AL delegates are winner take all if a candidate gets over 50% and proportional otherwise.

[sailingaway]

Virginia has 33 CD and 13 AL delegates.

The CD delegates are winner take all in each of the 11 CDs and the 13 AL delegates are winner take all if a candidate gets over 50% and proportional otherwise.

+rep! I love that you know that stuff!

[jkob]

would love to see some head to head polling

[sailingaway]

Gingrich didn't make it onto the ballot in Missouri, either.

[NY-Dano]

Gingrich didn't make it onto the ballot in Missouri, either.

Unfortunately, no delegates are at stake there (non-binding primary). It does, however, show his lack of organization.

I wonder what effect, if any, this might have on momentum going into Iowa.

[tsai3904]

I'm reading that there's no write-ins allowed in the Virginia primary too.

[Yoddle]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/24/newt-gingrich-fails-to-qualify-for-virginias-presidential-primary/

looks like the media is reporting on this..

[gerryb]

He can't even qualify in the state he lives in? Spending too much time at Fannie and Freddie I guess. Looks like we only have two electable candidates for the nomination.

[gerryb]

Unfortunately, no delegates are at stake there (non-binding primary). It does, however, show his lack of organization.

I wonder what effect, if any, this might have on momentum going into Iowa.

IF we can get it to become a story prior to Iowa -- it would be pretty good.

You're unelectable if you're not on the ballot. No one can argue that.

[TER]

I guess these are the unintended consequences when the establishment tries to keep many in the race/debates in order to counter Ron Paul. They end up diluting themselves to the point of not even getting enough signatures to get on the ballot!

[gerryb]

Unfortunately, no delegates are at stake there (non-binding primary). It does, however, show his lack of organization.

I wonder what effect, if any, this might have on momentum going into Iowa.

IF we can get it to become a story prior to Iowa -- it would be pretty good.

You're unelectable if you're not on the ballot. No one can argue that.

[sailingaway]

He can't even qualify in the state he lives in? Spending too much time at Fannie and Freddie I guess. Looks like we only have two electable candidates for the nomination.

Even nothing. Who knows him better?

To know him is to ......

[NY-Dano]

IF we can get it to become a story prior to Iowa -- it would be pretty good.

You're unelectable if you're not on the ballot. No one can argue that.

I just wonder about the math. I think Gingrich supporters would go to Romney more than to Paul. However, Perry supporters would favor Paul.

[gerryb]

I just wonder about the math. I think Gingrich supporters would go to Romney more than to Paul. However, Perry supporters would favor Paul.

They will stay home

[Pauls' Revere]

AWESOME!!!

BOOMSHAKALAKA!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moio5q_1b8o

[Dsylexic]

I just wonder about the math. I think Gingrich supporters would go to Romney more than to Paul. However, Perry supporters would favor Paul.
but you can be sure ALL paul supporters will be out.while romney supporters are liable to think its a cake walk and stay at home.we win

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

And Gingrich LIVES in VA!

ahhaha I didn't remember that. Lol.

[amonasro]

This is insane. Merry Christmas everybody! :)

[Jack Bauer]

http://troll.me/images/high-expectations-asian-father/cant-get-10000-signature-go-find-new-father.jpg

[jer4liberty]

This will let us see how serious the republican party is...whether it is nothing but a bunch of phony liberals or serious about limited government. Dr. Ron Paul stands for the latter, the former Governor of Massachusetts stands for the former.

[Pauls' Revere]

[QUOTE=amonasro;3898614]This is insane. Merry Christmas everybody! :)[/QUOTE

LOL Meeerrry Christmas !!

[Tinnuhana]

LOL at last response of article:


Tom H. December 24, 201103:38 am
Looks like I’m going to have to vote for crazy Ron Paul in order to stop the liberal Democrat from Massachusetts. Thanks a lot, VA political establishment, and Merry Christmas.

[nowwearefree]

i have an idea guys
not sure if it will work
but what if some of us "voluntarily" sign for newt/perry from now on, but give them fake info
so they might think they have enough signatures eg 11k , but in fact 2000 of them is fake

perhaps this is what is happening?

[economics102]

So now the question is whether the RPV is actually willing to stand by their rules and let us have our Mitt vs. Paul race.

[parocks]

VA is apparently a winner take all state, if the winner gets a majority

[ronpaulordietrying]

dude I am stoked, whats this mean?

[jsem]

With all the hate Mitt has, this is going to end up being just great!

[RPit]

Maybe we should forward this information to all the polling companies and let them know that when they do VA polls to only do them between Paul and Mitt because the others won't be receiving any votes in that state.

[Working Poor]

LOL

[Kalebthefinn]

How come this isn't on drudge yet?

[roversaurus]

This will be useful to bring up to the Anti-Romney voters in Iowa!
It means Gingrich and the others CAN'T get the delegates from Virginia ... So how can they beat Romney?
Only Paul is enough of a leader, manager, organizer to get on the ballot everywhere.


Ron Paul and Romney got enough signatures to get on the Virginia primary ballot.
Gingrich and all the rest FAILED to get enough votes!! And Gingrich LIVES in VA!

It's now down to Romney and Paul!!!

What does this mean for us?

This is about to get very interesting!



http://bearingdrift.com/2011/12/24/breaking-gingrich-2000-ballot-signatures-short/

[InTradePro]

Mods please merge duplicate threads.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?341814-Newt-not-qualifying-could-be-bad-for-us
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?341845-Gingrich-Perry-fail-to-make-Va.-primary-ballot-contains-some-nice-language

[PauliticsPolitics]

VA is apparently a winner take all state, if the winner gets a majority
Well, with only 2 people on the ballot, and no write in option, it seems like the only way to win is to get 50.0000001% or more.

[ord33]

i have an idea guys
not sure if it will work
but what if some of us "voluntarily" sign for newt/perry from now on, but give them fake info
so they might think they have enough signatures eg 11k , but in fact 2000 of them is fake

perhaps this is what is happening?

Ummm...NO! That would be unethical and Dr. Paul certainly wouldn't stand for something like that.

[nyrgoal99]

I think at some point the home from phone needs to move into VA and do some Romney/Paul polling

[rockandrollsouls]

This isn't really great....I think if Romney gets greater than 50% he takes all the delegates....so someone is going to walk away with all of 'em and in that state I don't think it's us...Would have been nice to have newt to split the vote.

[Intoxiklown]

This isn't really great....I think if Romney gets greater than 50% he takes all the delegates....so someone is going to walk away with all of 'em and in that state I don't think it's us...Would have been nice to have newt to split the vote.

I don't know how true this might be though. I cruise other political sites, and one is a few Fox News blogs. The Newt supporters are screaming a "Romney Conspiracy", and are all threatening to vote for Ron Paul to spite Romney....LOL

[pinkmandy]

This is worth mentioning again...

In the 2008 Virginia primary Romney won 4% of the vote. Paul earned 5%. McCain won and Huckabee came in second. There are many, many Virginians who will not vote for Romney. As a Virginian and knowing this state fairly well I can say this is awesome news. My boots are hitting the ground.

Also in Virginia we are not registered dems/repubs. On primary day you show up and pick which primary you want to vote in (unless that has changed since last time so someone correct me if I'm wrong). We are ripe for blue republicans. Virginia voted for Obama last time after being a normally red state but also voted in a very conservative governor.

In Virginia the right to homeschool is important- we have many homeschoolers. Second amendment rights are also important in most areas. Northern VA and the coast are more "big govt" than the rest of the state. I'm going to think on this a bit and get in contact w/our my local meetup group (we just moved to a new area).

I am very excited! :)

[tsai3904]

VA is apparently a winner take all state, if the winner gets a majority

Not necessarily. See my post here.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?341801-BREAKING-Gingrich-fails-to-get-on-VA-ballot!!-Down-to-Romney-vs.-Paul!!&p=3898541&viewfull=1#post3898541

[69360]

VA is apparently a winner take all state, if the winner gets a majority

Not true. The 13 at large delegates are winner take all if a candidate has 51%.

The 40-50 congressional district delegates are proportional no matter what the vote totals.

[tsai3904]

The 40-50 congressional district delegates are proportional no matter what the vote totals.

No. The 33 CD delegates (3 per CD) are winner take all in each CD.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/docs/2012%20RNC%20Delegate%20Summary.pdf

[69360]

VA is apparently a winner take all state, if the winner gets a majority


No. The 33 CD delegates (3 per CD) are winner take all in each CD.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/docs/2012%20RNC%20Delegate%20Summary.pdf


Ok, my wording was bad, but same idea. If a candidate gets 51% they don't get all the delegates in the state.

[Sarge]

Interesting article why Newt not on the Missouri ballot,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/gingrich-i-didnt-want-to-qualify-for-missouri-ballot/2011/12/05/gIQAD207WO_blog.html

He "doesn't enter beauty contests" I can understand why.

Sort of a slap in the face at Missouri if his comment is correct.

Phone calls might work well in Missouri and Virginia.