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fisharmor
12-23-2011, 08:29 AM
http://gma.yahoo.com/readied-donate-organs-21-old-emerges-coma-204904805.html


Sam Schmid, an Arizona college student believed to be brain dead and poised to be an organ donor, miraculously recovered just hours before doctors were considering taking him off life support. Schmid, a junior and business major at the University of Arizona, was critically wounded in an Oct. 19 five-car accident in Tucson.

The 21-year-old's brain injuries were so severe that the local hospital could not treat him. He was airlifted to the Barrow Neurological Institute at St. Joseph's Medical Center in Phoenix, where specialists performed surgery for a life-threatening aneurysm.

As hospital officials began palliative care and broached the subject of organ donation with his family, Schmid began to respond, holding up two fingers on command. Today he is walking with the aid of a walker, and his speech, although slow, has improved.

Doctors say he will likely have a complete recovery. He even hopes to get a day pass from the hospital to celebrate the holidays with his large extended family.

"Nobody could ever give me a better Christmas present than this -- ever, ever, ever," said his mother, Susan Regan, who is vice-president of the insurance company Lovitt-Touche.
"I tell everyone, if they want to call it a modern-day miracle, this is a miracle," said Regan, 59, and a Catholic. "I have friends who are atheists who have called me and said, 'I am going back to church.'"
Schmid's doctor, renowned neurosurgeon Dr. Robert Spetzler, agreed that his recovery was miraculous.

"I am dumb-founded with his incredible recovery in such a short time," said Spetzler. "His recovery was really remarkable considering the extent of his lethal injuries."
Hospital officials are crediting Spetzler with having a "hunch" that despite an initially dire prognosis, the young man would make it. But he said it was "reasonable" for others to consider withdrawing the patient from life support.
"It looked like all the odds were stacked against him," said Spetzler, who has performed more than 6,000 such surgeries and trained the doctor who operated on Congressman Gabrielle Giffords after she was shot at the beginning of this year.

During surgery, Spetzler clipped the balloonlike aneurysm in the blood vessel -- "as if I were patching a tire," a procedure that eventually worked.
For days Schmid didn't seem to be responding, but what puzzled his doctor was that he did not see fatal injuries on the MRI scan. So he decided to keep Schmid on life support longer.
"There was plenty wrong -- he had a hemorrhage, an aneurysm and a stroke from the part of the aneurysm," Spetzler said. "But he didn't have a blood clot in the most vital part of his brain, which we know he can't recover from. And he didn't have a massive stroke that would predict no chance of a useful existence."
So while the family was given a realistic picture of Schmid's poor chances for survival, Spetzler ordered one more MRI to see if the critical areas of the brain had turned dark, indicating brain death.
"If not, we would hang on and keep him on support," he said. "But I didn't want to give the family false hope."
Schmid's mother said no one "specifically" asked if her son would be a donor, but they "subtly talk to you about quality of life."
"At some point, I knew we had to make some sort of decision, and I kept praying," said Regan.
The MRI came back with encouraging news during the day and by evening Schmid "inexplicably" followed the doctors' commands, holding up two fingers.
"It was like fireworks all going off at the same time," said Spetzler.
Today, Schmid -- his speech clear and sounding upbeat -- told ABCNews.com, "I feel fine. I'm in a wheelchair, but I am getting lots of help."

Sam Schmid Has No Memory of the Accident He said he remembers nothing of the accident nor coming around after being in an induced coma. "It wasn't until I woke up in rehab," he said. "But they told me about afterwards."

Schmid was returning from coaching basketball at his former Catholic school when a van swerved into his lane. The Jeep in which he was riding went airborne, hit a light pole and landed on its side.
Schmid's left hand and both of his femurs broke and required surgery. But the worst were the traumatic head injuries, which were complex and nearly always fatal.
All those involved say the support that Schmid got from family and friends -- and especially the care at Barrow -- may have made the difference. His brother John, a 24-year-old IT specialist, took a leave of absence from his job in Chicago to be at his brother's bedside.
Family flew in from around the country, and Delta Chi fraternity brothers made regular visits, even creating a mural for their friend.
"It seems like we were being led down a path to plan for the worst and that things were not going to work out," said John Schmid. "The miracle, to put it bluntly, was that in a matter of seven days, we went from organ donation to rehab. What a roller coaster it was."
He said his brother's speech is slow, but he understands what others are saying. Sam Schmid's athleticism -- as a basketball coach and snowboard instructor -- probably helped, he said.
"Honestly, I am at a loss for words," said John Schmid. "I am just so proud of Sam. He's got a strong constitution and he's very determined. But it's been quite an eye-opener for me -- a real learning curve. You can't take anything for granted."
Sam Schmid's surgeon agrees.
"You get incredible highs when you save someone facing neurological devastation or death," said Spetzler. "That is counter-pointed by the incredible lows when you fail to help someone."
"In a way, his recovery was truly miraculous," he said. "It's a great Christmas story."
Ever the scientist, Spetzler wasn't willing to speculate what a comatose patient hears. But he admits, "There are so many things we don't understand about the brain and what happens at the time someone is near death."
"The whole family was at his side during the day and at night hovering over him, then to see there was a chance after being ready to let go," he said. "But I am very much a big believer that positive thoughts and positive energy in a room can only help."

So, does everyone else see what I'm seeing?
"Sorry Mrs. Schmid, your son got hit in the head. We performed a couple surgeries and put him in an induced coma. He's probably going to die. We want his organs."

The more I read shit like this the more I think that if I was ever in a situation like this, where a doctor was prematurely telling me he wanted to start carving up my kid, I'd probably go straight for his nuts.
Fucking ghouls.

specialK
12-23-2011, 08:45 PM
Some recommend to never sign up as an organ donor for that reason. Thanks for this post.

Anti Federalist
12-24-2011, 12:31 AM
Some recommend to never sign up as an organ donor for that reason. Thanks for this post.

I concur with this.

Napolitanic Wars
12-24-2011, 12:39 AM
The more I read shit like this the more I think that if I was ever in a situation like this, where a doctor was prematurely telling me he wanted to start carving up my kid, I'd probably go straight for his nuts.
Fucking ghouls.

They call it a miracle for a reason: it doesn't happen often. It's like how wearing a seat belt can kill you in certain car accidents, but that is a small exception.

TER
12-24-2011, 01:16 AM
These miracles occur more frequently then you might think. And yes, if the definition of a miracle is something that goes against all expectations and 'normal' processes, then yes, this sounds most definitely to be a miracle (of course, to know more surely, one would need the facts).

That he was in an INDUCED coma, as was emphasized in the OP, would be the natural thing to do for the first few days until brain swelling decreased and vital signs normalized. But after a few days to a week, any 'inducements' would be titrated down to determine the neurologic status of the patient. IF this indeed was the case, and the young man was in a vegetative state since October, and then suddenly made such a recovery (and perhaps adding into that if the parent were devout Christians and prayed to the Lord for His mercy and help), then both medically and spiritually, this is a miracle.

Like Lazarus, this man has risen from the dead.

TER
12-24-2011, 01:22 AM
And, to the OP, respectfully, it is an offense to a believer when someone writes Christmans as 'xmas'.

I dont call this the X X Forums, neither does anyone else I know (except for FOX News and CNN and MSNBC who wished they could call it such).

From my heart, I ask you to show me the same respect.

AmericasLastHope
12-24-2011, 01:29 AM
Supposedly Ambien is causing people to wake up from comas now: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/magazine/can-ambien-wake-minimally-conscious.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp

TER
12-24-2011, 01:59 AM
Supposedly Ambien is causing people to wake up from comas now: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/magazine/can-ambien-wake-minimally-conscious.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp

That is very interesting and hopefully will lead to improved therapies and treatments!

Esoteric
12-24-2011, 02:25 AM
xmas miracle? like magic? I'd like to think it was a bit of luck. Interesting story.

Magicman
12-24-2011, 11:20 AM
Supposedly Ambien is causing people to wake up from comas now: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/magazine/can-ambien-wake-minimally-conscious.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp

That is kind've strange why would ambien do that? I've never seen any facts to back that up. It just prolongs sleep. If this is indeed true then let's hope they find more cases. Oxygen therapies are known to get people out of comas and it is more based on fact but they never report that.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=coma+hyperberic&oq=coma+hyperberic&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2386l2593l0l3703l2l2l0l0l0l1l228l407l0.1.1l 2l0

brandon
12-24-2011, 11:26 AM
double post

brandon
12-24-2011, 11:26 AM
And, to the OP, respectfully, it is an offense to a believer when someone writes Christmans as 'xmas'.

I dont call this the X X Forums, neither does anyone else I know (except for FOX News and CNN and MSNBC who wished they could call it such).

From my heart, I ask you to show me the same respect.


The X in 'Xmas' comes from the first letter of Jesus's name in Greek Χριστός. The use of the Greek Letter 'X' (chi) to represent Christ has been going on for 2000 years.

http://www.crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html



So there is no grand scheme to dilute Christianity by promoting the use of Xmas instead of Christmas. It is not a modern invention to try to convert Christmas into a secular day, nor is it a device to promote the commercialism of the holiday season. Its origin is thoroughly rooted in the heritage of the Church. It is simply another way to say Christmas, drawing on a long history of symbolic abbreviations used in the church.

I just learned this all the other week :)

h.k.
12-24-2011, 11:30 AM
The X in 'Xmas' comes from the first letter of Jesus's name in Greek Χριστός. The use of the Greek Letter 'X' (chi) to represent Christ has been going on for 2000 years.

http://www.crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html




I just learned this all the other week :)

It is not a serious gripe anyway, imo.

TER
12-24-2011, 12:09 PM
The X in 'Xmas' comes from the first letter of Jesus's name in Greek Χριστός. The use of the Greek Letter 'X' (chi) to represent Christ has been going on for 2000 years.

http://www.crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

Yes, I have heard of this as well. I highly doubt Esoteric or the other militant atheists and secularist who use the word in this manner do so with the intention of honoring Xristos, but to demean, belittle and insult this holy day, which would be consistent with their pattern of abuse. The sad truth is that for many of these same people who know that it causes offense to many Christians, it will only encourage them to do it more since they find joy in hurting and insulting others they deem to be less rational and intelligent as them.