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RPit
12-22-2011, 01:25 AM
The man had been a lone voice fighting for my INDIVIDUAL rights and liberties. For this country to return the favor by labeling him a racist. This very thought makes me want to leave this country. If, God forbid, Ron loses because of this 'racist' bullshit I have no doubt in my mind that I will leave this country. I don't think I will able to proudly call myself American.

After I think about how much he has done, how much he was ridiculed for being the lone vote, for how much he sacrificed for this country. For how much he put his on person on the line for the cause of liberty. I think it is time to show these media elites that WE THE PEOPLE will never forget what Ron Paul did for us. And WE THE PEOPLE will never forget what the MEDIA did to US by lying or promoting the lies of the Iraq War and so much more. When was it that the media ever apologized for the thousands of Americans dead in a war of lies. I will never forget.

I think it is time to show the power of WE THE PEOPLE. I ask everyone that the time is NOW. All side-lined RP supporters, the TIME IS NOW. The war has begun, the tree of liberty is under fire. Let us unite and FIGHT with everything we have. Get on that Phone-from-Home program. Donate every penny you can.

The founders had fought the Revolutionary War to bring a country to life. We must fight to keep this country alive. It wasn't easy for them, did you expect it to be easy for us?

"Against us are... all timid men who prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of liberty... We are likely to preserve the liberty we have obtained only by unremitting labors and perils." --Thomas Jefferson to Philip Mazzei, 1796. ME 9:336

RickyJ
12-22-2011, 01:34 AM
I haven't been proud to be an America for about 8 years now. That is when we invaded a nation that did nothing to us based on lies. Ron Paul is bringing people's patriotism back again by wanting to stop these senseless wars based on lies. How can one be proud to be a member of a nation that bombed a country to smithereens based on lies? Our participation in bombing Libya was uncalled for and insane. The rebels there are for the most part hired mercenaries of NATO and make Gaddafi look like a saint. We are making real enemies that hate our guts wherever our military goes lately. This has got to stop, if not, other nations, and/or God will see to it that it stops. Ron Paul is the only candidate running that wants to stop this mindless killing.

qwerty
12-22-2011, 01:36 AM
donīt cry, fight back!

hammy
12-22-2011, 01:36 AM
I know what you mean, RPit...

And I know RP says no "long faces"... but I am seriously depressed... we fight so hard... and this absolute BULL comes up. I am just so upset...

RickyJ
12-22-2011, 01:38 AM
I know what you mean, RPit...

And I know RP says no "long faces"... but I am seriously depressed... we fight so hard... and this absolute BULL comes up. I am just so upset...

Don't worry about this, they brought this up last election and it did not hurt Ron Paul at all.

wgadget
12-22-2011, 01:39 AM
Fortunately, the voting public already saw what the media did to Herman Cain and they're not too keen on the media these days. Even Newt calls the media out to cheers of approval.

amonasro
12-22-2011, 01:44 AM
Don't let it get you down. We knew the attacks were coming. They will get worse. Dig in and defend him to your friends and family when they inevitably ask you about this over the holidays.

I've already defended him once--my friend is a Fox Business contributor (he's a Fed economist, I know I know) who immediately brought up the newsletters at a party the other night. He's a smart guy but fumbled around a bit with his accusations. Honestly, the argument is very weak and the guilt by association tactics are easy to counter.

The MSM is giving us a nice Christmas present with this one. I hope their stockings are full of coal.

libertythor
12-22-2011, 01:46 AM
The usual "Ron Paul is racist trolls" are now active in the Tea Party groups on Facebook now. :(

agorist ninja
12-22-2011, 01:48 AM
These threads are not healthy. Stop the hand-wringing.

This is what the establishment media is counting on: sowing seeds of discontent and unnerving the support.

No one is going to hold our hands and magically escort Dr. Paul into office. It takes work. That is the focus, nothing else.

Todd38
12-22-2011, 01:52 AM
Fortunately, the voting public already saw what the media did to Herman Cain and they're not too keen on the media these days. Even Newt calls the media out to cheers of approval.

I'm not sure what you are watching but I don't see that at all, the media humiliated Cain and the voters responded by picking someone else and the same thing is happening with Gingrich. Bottom line: Media attacks WORK and reduce the number of people who support a candidate.

hammy
12-22-2011, 01:54 AM
These threads are not healthy. Stop the hand-wringing.

This is what the establishment media is counting on: sowing seeds of discontent and unnerving the support.

No one is going to hold our hands and magically escort Dr. Paul into office. It takes work. That is the focus, nothing else.

I can't help the worrying on one hand, but on the other...

I'm PISSED AS HELL. This makes me want to commit a full-time job to phone-banking.

I just want to drive up to CNN headquarters and verbally abuse every single one of the employees there.

But... still... it does make me incredibly sad. I'm with the OP though... if he doesn't win because of this absolute garbage, I'm out of this country as soon as possible. See you in Switzerland. Not perfect, but at least I won't have to worry about bombing third world countries.

amonasro
12-22-2011, 01:55 AM
I'm not sure what you are watching but I don't see that at all, the media humiliated Cain and the voters responded by picking someone else and the same thing is happening with Gingrich. Bottom line: Media attacks WORK and reduce the number of people who support a candidate.

RP never had the backing of the media in the first place, so their attacks' effectiveness are reduced, I think.

Warrior_of_Freedom
12-22-2011, 01:55 AM
The usual "Ron Paul is racist trolls" are now active in the Tea Party groups on Facebook now. :(
If they're that desperate to cling on the vaguest piece of information to label him a racist, they never supported him anyway.

The_Ruffneck
12-22-2011, 02:02 AM
I remember last election cycle they also brought up a few times a donation by the creator of stormfront to Rons campaign , they may bring that up again this campaign also so ron needs to be on his guard there as well.

jer4liberty
12-22-2011, 02:04 AM
I remember last election cycle they also brought up a few times a donation by the creator of stormfront to Rons campaign , they may bring that up again this campaign also so ron needs to be on his guard there as well.

They already did with lies. They said that Ron was letting a neo-nazi fund raise for him....

hammy
12-22-2011, 02:05 AM
I guess the good news is that they are doing this NOW and not later. This is the worst time for them to be pushing this. People are visiting for the holidays, everyone is relaxing. Your average American isn't even thinking about politics right now. The MSM conglomerate picked a bad bad time to start pushing this...

At least I hope so...

UGH I'm so down in the doldrums.

eleganz
12-22-2011, 02:05 AM
not me...

that which doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

You guys think this is bad? Imagine being under the barrage of Obama's hundreds of million dollars of attack ads...

agorist ninja
12-22-2011, 02:07 AM
This forum is about Ron Paul's message of liberty and his grassroots movement. Getting real tired of all of these threads looking for a shoulder to cry on because someone in the media said something bad about Dr. Paul. That's politics. Grow up.

I swear, you'd think the campaign were about to fold any second by reading this forum the past two days. Hint: that's exactly what the establishment media is counting on. They want to unnerve support and sow seeds of discontent.

The message of liberty is too strong to succumb to petty attacks. Fix yourselves up and get back to business as usual. These threads are unbecoming.

CaptainAmerica
12-22-2011, 02:07 AM
fuck those mutherfuckers! there are so many latinos,blacks,and white,and people of all color and creed voting for Ron Paul...we know the truth. the MSM just needs to go fuck itself.

Gravik
12-22-2011, 02:10 AM
Ron Paul is the least racist candidate running.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdGGx7fj9j0

CUnknown
12-22-2011, 02:11 AM
I know what you mean, RPit...

And I know RP says no "long faces"... but I am seriously depressed... we fight so hard... and this absolute BULL comes up. I am just so upset...

No long faces! This is desperation on their part. This is what victory looks like.

The equivalent from the Rand Paul campaign? AquaBuddha. Gosh that hurt Rand so bad, I wanna cry. ;)

pauladin
12-22-2011, 02:13 AM
Imagine how Ron Paul felt all those years in congress 434-1. Imagine how much guts that takes. And he has never given up. If we each can muster up 1/100 of the strength that is in that little old man, we can surely win this. Focus on the positive!

RPit
12-22-2011, 02:18 AM
Ya tomorrow is phone bank day for me. I'm done watching any negative hit piece. They can replay that shit to themselves.

jer4liberty
12-22-2011, 02:28 AM
Tomorrow will be worse in the newspapers, magazines, etc. What I'm seeing on twitter is a lot of people are writing hit pieces on Paul that will be going out tomorrow and so on.

RonPaulwillWin
12-22-2011, 02:31 AM
We weathered the storm last time, right after the huge 16th moneybomb. Main problem was, there was a RP media blackout then, not the letters. It's different this time.

cavalier973
12-22-2011, 02:33 AM
Try this: http://takimag.com/article/why_the_beltway_libertarians_are_trying_to_smear_r on_paul/#axzz1hDdtFU7d

jer4liberty
12-22-2011, 02:36 AM
We weathered the storm last time, right after the huge 16th moneybomb. Main problem was, there was a RP media blackout then, not the letters. It's different this time.

And that is what has me deeply worried and scared. When I thought Ron had a bad debate performance (and even though I was wrong) it was just a freaked out feeling. I don't feel freaked out, I feel weak....I feel scared. I just have a horrible feeling about this. Ron is getting more attention than he has ever got combined in the past, and now they are rehashing these stories they asked last go around..most people ignored Paul last time. Now they are giving attention to him because they are so scared he will win the Iowa Caucus. This is going to get very brutal. Extremely brutal. I feel paralyzed on this one.

Tinnuhana
12-22-2011, 02:41 AM
When you get to the end of your rope, tie a not and hang on. Pray (if you're so inclined) that Ron and those around him will approach this with wisdom and come out ahead thereby.

rambone
12-22-2011, 02:42 AM
Stay the course. Ron Paul has been steadfast for 40 years. Carry his legacy on even after he retires.

Even if he doesn't become president, he has inspired millions. We need those people to carry on and make a difference.

Todd38
12-22-2011, 02:43 AM
I remember last election cycle they also brought up a few times a donation by the creator of stormfront to Rons campaign , they may bring that up again this campaign also so ron needs to be on his guard there as well.

You are talking about Don Black who is considered the most greedy man in White Nationalism, he pretends that it costs $40,000 a year to run an internet forum and in the process dupes Stormfront members into giving constant donations to keep his family living in luxury while this somehow "advances the White race". Don't be surprised if Black gets paid by the GOP establishment to give a donation to Ron Paul's campaign again this time and all for the purpose of destroying Paul.

RPit
12-22-2011, 02:43 AM
Well I hope it works our but if at anytime this goes over the top I won't stand Ron's reputation be destroyed by bunch of ******

merrimac
12-22-2011, 02:43 AM
Hopefully this video will make you smile.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhm69XV4oqo

MaxPower
12-22-2011, 03:20 AM
The good news is that the story doesn't seem to be "sticking." Practically every major media outlet has popped up with coverage of the newsletter thing to try to swat Dr. Paul's numbers back down again, but the spark doesn't seem to have ignited in terms of catching the public imagination. Last year, after Maddow did her hatchet interview with Rand about the Civil Rights Act, the story really caught on and you saw an article about it make the front of Google News every day for the rest of the week; they're publishing a lot of hit pieces about this, but it looks like it's falling short insofar as making a serious public splash is concerned.

J_White
12-22-2011, 03:21 AM
Dont back down because of the propaganda,
did you think they will let him have a cake walk ?
Be calm, be focused, work for getting the word out to voters.
Join the Phone from Home program or go out and talk to people.
good luck and keep working.

randomname
12-22-2011, 03:33 AM
You are talking about Don Black who is considered the most greedy man in White Nationalism, he pretends that it costs $40,000 a year to run an internet forum and in the process dupes Stormfront members into giving constant donations to keep his family living in luxury while this somehow "advances the White race". Don't be surprised if Black gets paid by the GOP establishment to give a donation to Ron Paul's campaign again this time and all for the purpose of destroying Paul.

oh do count on it. I very much doubt he really is a supporter, he must know these donations reflect badly on Paul

Liberty Shark
12-22-2011, 03:52 AM
I'm not sure what you are watching but I don't see that at all, the media humiliated Cain and the voters responded by picking someone else and the same thing is happening with Gingrich. Bottom line: Media attacks WORK and reduce the number of people who support a candidate.

Hold on a second. There are major differences between the Cain stuff and this current smear attack. In the Cain scandal, there were people coming forward accusing Cain of stuff, and then the media reported this. In this "newsletter" nonsense, there isn't anyone coming forward and saying that Paul wrote those things. All that is occurring here is the media and establishment lying and saying or trying to promote the idea that Paul wrote that stuff. But they have no evidence, and in fact all of the evidence shows that not only did Paul not write the stuff, but was largely and completely unaware that those words were being written.
Also, lets not overstate the magnitude of what was written. Sure, the stuff is bad, but its not like its absolutely horrible. There is no use of profanity. And not to make a defense for the words, but the general public actually felt similar to some of those words. Let's not forget how bad those riots were and the reasons and crimes that were committed in that instance. I'm in no way defending the words at all, but lets not overstate what was written, I've heard a lot worse. And again, Paul has never used words like that. This story has no legs because there is no audio tapes out there or video or anything where Paul uses that type of language. Why? Because he did not write the stuff. Enough said.

Liberty Shark
12-22-2011, 03:58 AM
You are talking about Don Black who is considered the most greedy man in White Nationalism, he pretends that it costs $40,000 a year to run an internet forum and in the process dupes Stormfront members into giving constant donations to keep his family living in luxury while this somehow "advances the White race". Don't be surprised if Black gets paid by the GOP establishment to give a donation to Ron Paul's campaign again this time and all for the purpose of destroying Paul.

I have been told by someone who's word I trust that the NY Times has contacted Don Black and interviewed him for a MASSIVE smear article for next week. Truly pathetic. It just shows how desperate they are to smear in anyway possible.

RickyJ
12-22-2011, 04:03 AM
I have been told by someone who's word I trust that the NY Times has contacted Don Black and interviewed him for a MASSIVE smear article for next week. Truly pathetic. It just shows how desperate they are to smear in anyway possible.

A smear article against Paul?

Why would he participate in it if he supports Ron Paul? Or is the smear him supporting Ron Paul?

RickyJ
12-22-2011, 04:03 AM
Crazy, this came up as a double post, I only posted once.

Liberty Shark
12-22-2011, 04:15 AM
A smear article against Paul?

Why would he participate in it if he supports Ron Paul? Or is the smear him supporting Ron Paul?

I don't know for certain because I was just told that the NY Times had contacted Black and interviewed him for a piece for the paper possibly next week. I was also told that he said that Paul was not a racist or "white nationalist", but that some of Paul's positions, such as the Federal Reserve, he liked.

randomname
12-22-2011, 04:16 AM
I have been told by someone who's word I trust that the NY Times has contacted Don Black and interviewed him for a MASSIVE smear article for next week. Truly pathetic. It just shows how desperate they are to smear in anyway possible.

ugh, Don Black is either a retard or controlled opposition for doing that interview.

Maybe we should try and pull some information on that NYT article out of him? His email is don.black@stormfront.org.