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heavenlyboy34
12-21-2011, 09:47 PM
h/t Karen DeCoster.:cool::toady:

The FDA has asked a sperm donor to cease-and-desist (http://news.yahoo.com/feds-issue-warning-unconventional-sperm-donor-140811851.html) in the case of his community service, er, um, sperm donation. Trent Arsenault, a minister’s son from the San Francisco Bay area, just wants to help women who cannot afford governmentized sperm donor banks. Trent has fathered 14 children in five years and has four more bunnies on the way.

The case of Trent Arsenault of Fremont has drawn attention to the practice of informal sperm donation, which physicians and bioethicists call unsafe but some people say is a civil liberties issue.
…The U.S. Food and Drug Administration sent Arsenault a cease-and-desist letter late last year telling him he must stop because he does not follow the agency’s requirements for getting tested for sexually transmitted diseases within seven days before giving sperm.
Violators of FDA regulations on human cells and tissues face up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine, according to guidelines published on the agency’s website.
I can’t help but note how the article makes a point that the FDA’s rules and regulations will make it impossible for Trent “to keep offering his sperm for free.” That leads me to post this quote from the article:

A sperm bank will also isolate the actual sperm cells from the donor’s semen, which reduces the risk of passing along pathogens, [Dr. Mitchell] Rosen said. “In this situation there’s no reduction of risk. It’s just as if they’re going out and having a one night stand.”
And…? Yea, what about all of the standard, day-to-day donations of pathogens and other unknowns among sexual partners? Most sperm donations are indeed free, as unregulated sex is undertaken by folks everywhere, and without following FDA guidelines or “getting tested.” Finally, Arsenault says, “…it comes in a cup versus sex.” Trent’s problem with the feds is due to the fact that he has bypassed the gatekeepers of (profitable) sperm donation and he has become a one-man fertility-for-free show. That’s unfair competition. Could it be said that he is guilty of predatory pricing? After all, he is selling his assets at less than fair value.
You can see Trent’s donor resume here (http://trentdonor.org/). Thanks to Travis Holte for the link.

cubical
12-25-2011, 08:11 PM
Would the FDA rather he have sex with the women? What a joke our lords are.

UtahApocalypse
12-25-2011, 08:26 PM
we started a discussion on this about a week ago:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?340156-WOW!-FDA-warns-man-to-stop-donating-sperm-over-internet

Shorting
12-26-2011, 11:30 PM
Would the FDA rather he have sex with the women? What a joke our lords are.

Yeah it's pretty ridiculous.

Septimus
12-28-2011, 08:58 AM
There is no confusion in it that it is ridiculous.
But we should give the preference to these comments to learn a lot in the future.

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wizardwatson
12-28-2011, 09:27 AM
hehe.... "coming"

oyarde
12-29-2011, 12:18 PM
Screw the FDA , if they want anything from me , they have to pay for it :)

Zippyjuan
12-29-2011, 12:28 PM
Sorry- couldn't resist and surprised it isn't already posted in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-L3JMk7C1A

amy31416
12-29-2011, 12:29 PM
I'm not going to panic, yet.




Oh wait...

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 07:43 PM
I'm not going to panic, yet.




Oh wait...
eggs and breast milk are next! ;) :eek:

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 07:45 PM
we started a discussion on this about a week ago:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?340156-WOW!-FDA-warns-man-to-stop-donating-sperm-over-internet
Sowwy, my bad. :o

flightlesskiwi
12-31-2011, 08:02 PM
eggs and breast milk are next! ;) :eek:

you can have my breast milk and eggs, but you'll never take away my

freeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooooooooommmmmmmmm!!

Working Poor
12-31-2011, 08:05 PM
Would the FDA rather he have sex with the women? What a joke our lords are.


Well they are screwing everybody

amy31416
12-31-2011, 08:09 PM
eggs and breast milk are next! ;) :eek:

:eek: indeed!


you can have my breast milk and eggs, but you'll never take away my

freeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooooooooommmmmmmmm!!

Nooooo...they take eggs using giant, scary needles--no like!

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 09:55 PM
:eek: indeed!



Nooooo...they take eggs using giant, scary needles--no like!
Never fear, my dear...we have anesthesia for that. ;)

amy31416
12-31-2011, 09:58 PM
Never fear, my dear...we have anesthesia for that. ;)

Yeah...and how's that anesthesia get into my veins?

GIANT SCARY NEEDLES!

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 10:08 PM
Yeah...and how's that anesthesia get into my veins?

GIANT SCARY NEEDLES!
No, gas. You wear the mask for a little while, and then you're off into the Land Of Nod whilst your eggs are harvested. :D ;) You wake up afterward and don't remember a thing. You'll have a bit of a scar at best.

Dr.3D
12-31-2011, 10:09 PM
I don't get it. Sperm isn't either a food nor a drug. How did the FDA get jurisdiction?

Shouldn't this be under the control of the World Health Organization. /s

amy31416
12-31-2011, 10:16 PM
No, gas. You wear the mask for a little while, and then you're off into the Land Of Nod whilst your eggs are harvested. :D ;) You wake up afterward and don't remember a thing. You'll have a bit of a scar at best.

Mmm hmmm. Strangely enough, I'm still not game.

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 10:28 PM
Mmm hmmm. Strangely enough, I'm still not game.
c'monnnnnn! Big Brother says it's good for you. ;)

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 10:31 PM
I don't get it. Sperm isn't either a food nor a drug. How did the FDA get jurisdiction?

Shouldn't this be under the control of the World Health Organization. /s
A Ministry Of Gametes will be started under the supervision of the FDA ASAP. ;)

TurboTenderloin
12-31-2011, 10:38 PM
Whoa what a weird law

flightlesskiwi
12-31-2011, 10:43 PM
I don't get it. Sperm isn't either a food nor a drug. How did the FDA get jurisdiction?

Shouldn't this be under the control of the World Health Organization. /s

No, no. FDA jurisdiction is legit. Sperm comes from nuts.

amy31416
12-31-2011, 10:47 PM
No, no. FDA jurisdiction is legit. Sperm comes from nuts.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to flightlesskiwi again.

Danke
12-31-2011, 10:51 PM
Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 10:52 PM
No, no. FDA jurisdiction is legit. Sperm comes from nuts.
Actually, sperm originates in the testicles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_xj0v-6H0

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 10:53 PM
Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8:D:D

Danke
12-31-2011, 10:59 PM
Actually, sperm originates in the testicles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_xj0v-6H0

I love it when a professional woman says scrotum and hang low. I'm do for another exam.

flightlesskiwi
12-31-2011, 11:06 PM
Actually, sperm originates in the testicles.

no:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoLNgrOgAts&feature=related

eduardo89
12-31-2011, 11:24 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to flightlesskiwi again.

Why have I never seen you post that with my name? :(

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 11:24 PM
I wonder if we could tie the theme of this thread into the Festivus thread somehow....

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 11:25 PM
Why have I never seen you post that with my name? :(
You are not worthy! :p

eduardo89
12-31-2011, 11:26 PM
I wonder if we could tie the theme of this thread into the Festivus thread somehow....

You Festivus whore! It's over! +rep for the new year and to make the transition away from Festivus a little less painful :p

Danke
12-31-2011, 11:27 PM
Why have I never seen you post that with my name? :(

Doesn't want your sperm?

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 11:28 PM
You Festivus whore! It's over! +rep for the new year and to make the transition away from Festivus a little less painful :p
But Amy hasn't pinned me yet! Festivus can't end now! :eek: :(

eduardo89
12-31-2011, 11:33 PM
Doesn't want your sperm?

It's quiet potent. Even the pill doesn't stop it.

eduardo89
12-31-2011, 11:34 PM
But Amy hasn't pinned me yet! Festivus can't end now! :eek: :(

Keep dreaming.

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 11:36 PM
It's quiet potent. Even the pill doesn't stop it.
Yet you only got one kid from it? Someone's exaggerating to stroke his ego. :rolleyes:

eduardo89
12-31-2011, 11:43 PM
Yet you only got one kid from it? Someone's exaggerating to stroke his ego. :rolleyes:

That's not all that got stroked tonight ;)

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 11:57 PM
That's not all that got stroked tonight ;)
Knowing you, you're lucky you got stroked at all. ;)

heavenlyboy34
12-31-2011, 11:58 PM
Keep dreaming.
NOOOOOOO!!!! Don't stop the Festivus party NOW!! /throws tantrum

eduardo89
12-31-2011, 11:59 PM
Knowing you, you're lucky you got stroked at all. ;)

Yes I was very lucky. She was a lovely lady.

heavenlyboy34
01-01-2012, 12:05 AM
Yes I was very lucky. She was a lovely lady.
Tell your mother I said hi and thanks for stroking you. ;)

eduardo89
01-01-2012, 12:11 AM
Tell your mother I said hi and thanks for stroking you. ;)

Woah! Let's keep my mother out of this one!

heavenlyboy34
01-01-2012, 12:14 AM
Woah! Let's keep my mother out of this one!
Okay, I'll behave...for now. :) Your secret is safe with me.

Noob
01-01-2012, 02:14 AM
"There's a danger of accidental incest or inbreeding if you're the father of 14 children" and a habitual sperm donor, said bioethicist Arthur Caplan at University of Pennsylvania. "Nobody should be involved as a sperm donor on that level. It's not safe.

More propaganda for a One-Child policy. It seems they are using people like Octomom, those on welfare, and those who have lots of kids with other people to push it. Along with the global warming greens are pushing the propaganda throw over population.

HeaT777
01-01-2012, 10:33 AM
FDA has been coming after sperm through GMO, fluoride, radiation, BPA, etc

Seraphim
01-01-2012, 11:34 AM
This.


FDA has been coming after sperm through GMO, fluoride, radiation, BPA, etc