No excuse for not winning early caucus states

[GeorgiaAvenger]

These can be piece-of-cake states if we try.

Especially Maine. In 2008 Romney won with 2,837 votes and got 18 delegates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Republican_presidential_primar ies

What are the campaign and grassroots strategies for these states, regardless of the outcomes of Iowa and New Hampshire?

[Drex]

Puerto Rico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_Republican_caucuses,_2008

188 votes
23 delegates

[eric4186]

Minnesota will be a huge win-fest for us too. Caucus state, we already have a lot of support there from 08. (we got double digits) and the delegates are unpledged. so it's just a matter of making ron paul people delegates and since it's a low-turnout caucus state with a lot of support already we're gonna do great there.

Paul also opened a campaign office there along with in 4 other caucus states just a couple days ago.

[bluesc]

While I wouldn't go as far as to say "no excuse", the campaign expects to win them.

[RPit]

Good point we need to win states like Maine which should be relatively easier given the small turnout.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Puerto Rico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_Republican_caucuses,_2008

188 votes
23 delegates

Amazing!

And they have nearly 4 million citizens as well.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

http://www.facebook.com/RP2012PR
http://www.facebook.com/groups/Maine4RonPaul/

[Badger Paul]

Be careful, Romney will have the party establishment in his corner like four years ago and in the West they make darn sure they get Mormon vote for caucuses in Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska, Washington and Montana.

[Kluge]

Puerto Rico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_Republican_caucuses,_2008

188 votes
23 delegates
I wonder if Fortuno would endorse Paul.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

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[Brett85]

Minnesota will be a huge win-fest for us too. Caucus state, we already have a lot of support there from 08. (we got double digits) and the delegates are unpledged. so it's just a matter of making ron paul people delegates and since it's a low-turnout caucus state with a lot of support already we're gonna do great there.

Paul also opened a campaign office there along with in 4 other caucus states just a couple days ago.

How many of the delegates from these GOP primaries and caucuses are "unpledged?" Does this mean that Ron can get his supporters to become delegates and vote for him at the convention, even if he doesn't actually win the primaries and caucuses?

[neverseen]

man.... they need some out side of facebook events on that PR page. there are a few questions on the "everyone" tab that i'm sure some of you could help answer also... i don't see anything about local activism unless it's all on the meetup.com type page for them.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Maybe Revpac could put some effort into these states?

[RonPaul101.com]

Puerto Rico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_Republican_caucuses,_2008

188 votes
23 delegates

That count will be higher this election, but not a high count at all; if I had to guess 1200 total votes. They are a caucus not a primary so that lowers the numbers and the voters can't vote in the general election so they feel shut out. We need an organization in PR for an easy pick up ahead of Super Tuesday and its a contest that occurs alone without other states, so it could make some headlines.

Washington State is the other good one. We lost it by less than 700 votes to McCain and its a single contest just before Super Tuesday. Good time to be winning.

[truthdivides]

How many of the delegates from these GOP primaries and caucuses are "unpledged?" Does this mean that Ron can get his supporters to become delegates and vote for him at the convention, even if he doesn't actually win the primaries and caucuses?

I believe 37 of our 40 delegates are unpledged. In theory we could place 4th in the caucus straw vote, but still get all 37 unpledged delegates.

[braane]

Nvm...haha, don't want to derail the thread.

[PauliticsPolitics]

Puerto Rico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_Republican_caucuses,_2008

188 votes
23 delegates

¿Tenemos los puertorriqueños en este foro?

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I bet the RPF could get mailers out to these little Islands and win them for Ron!

[Badger Paul]

How many of the delegates from these GOP primaries and caucuses are "unpledged?" Does this mean that Ron can get his supporters to become delegates and vote for him at the convention, even if he doesn't actually win the primaries and caucuses?

Technically all of the caucus states delegates are unpledged, even those in Iowa. No one will be getting pledged delegates the night of Jan. 3.

What happens in the GOP when it comes to caucuses is this: Usually (not always, depends on who the caucus chair is and when the caucus takes place) if the caucus meeting in a particular precinct or county decides to take a vote on Presidential preference, a series a speeches will be made for each candidate by their supporters among caucus attendees and then secret ballot is held. The ballots are gathered and the candidate numbers are tallied. The vote totals are then sent to the state party headquarters. Is basically just another straw poll, but unlike the Democrats who actually do divy up delegates according to who finishes where, no delegates are awarded based on vote totals.

So what does that mean? It means you have to stay the WHOLE fricken caucus meeting because what's important is being nominated an elected to district, Congressional and then state conventions. That's what the caucuses do. It's the state and Congressional District conventions which divy up the delegates to different candidates for the national convention but you can't get to this level unless you attend your local caucus first. That's why they are important.

And more often than not if you have a lot of people elected at each level of the process you'll get delegates and or alternates at your state convention as we did in some cases (others we did not) four years ago. What usually happens in GOP caucuses is as other candidates fall by the wayside, the apparent nominee sweeps these caucuses because most of the people chosen from other campaigns fall in line and support the eventual nominee. That's what happened to us in many states four years ago like Maine for example, or Louisiana or Hawaii, or many district conventions like in Arizona, Indiana and Georgia for example. Paul supporters, who made up a third of convention delegates in many places, were beaten by the two-thirds of everyone else who were supporting McCain. We were only the campaign since Pat Robertson back in 1988 to take it the distance the way we did trying to get seats at the convention. Hopefully this time around we will have a competitive race with competitive caucuses and state conventions where we will be in control or at least having a say in how delegates are awarded instead of being abused like we were in many cases by the party establishment.

[Barrex]

Can someone tell do candidates ever campain in Puerto Rico?If not those 23 delegates should be really easy to get....Find few Rauls supporters and give them some promotional materials, some list of most likley voters (campain can get that with 1-2 phone calls) and that is it....

OR:

Send them 200 of those Ron Paul candy and tell them to give them to every person that voted for Ron Paul ;)

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[gerryb]

I'm really skeptical of that PR number... The democrats primary had hundreds of thousands of cotes, according to wikipedia

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[opinionatedfool]

My friend from Puerto Rico says that Huntsman, Romney and Gingrich have campaign teams working there. The turn out is so low, it would be ashame if we couldn't get all delegates. 23!

[GeorgiaAvenger]

These two lists can be cross referenced to find out which states we could focus on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Republican_presidential_primar ies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#Cale ndar

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