Need help defending Ron on that newsletter issue

[libertygrl]

Two guys on my local Tea Party forum, must be getting a little nervous that Ron Paul's gaining momentum because now they are starting to post some inflammatory articles. I don't know too much about the story other than it was his newsletter, but someone else had written the article. I know they brought this up back in '07, but was it ever fully resolved? Thanks..

[Brick-in-the-Wall]

Post the video of the president of the NAACP from Austin talking about knowing Ron for 20 years and saying it's all BS.

[DinahWest]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?337936-Refuting-the-racism-charge

Find vid of the NAACP president of Austin that defended Ron, Nelson Linder.
Plus other vids that refute the racism claims.

This is a last ditch effort by Hannity & Co. to try and stop Ron. Despite no evidence linking Ron to have ever written or spoken these words. Ron's actions have spoken contrary to the trash trying to be used against him. Their is also some stuff on his wikipedia page about the newsletter.

[dannno]

Tell them that Ron Paul was too busy caring for his patients at his medical practice, including taking care of poor elderly and minorities who couldn't afford care for free and not accepting federal govt. medicare/medicaid money to notice that a few lines in his newsletter were of bad taste.

[specsaregood]

I'd just say, "I thought it was only liberals that used the racist smear card."

[ONUV]

why are they tea partiers if they don't like ron paul?

[Paulitics 2011]

1. There is absolutely no proof Ron wrote the articles. They were written in his newsletter, but writers were frequently hired to write articles. The actual article itself has no credit given to Ron Paul, and he never wrote them. He DID NOT write them, you cannot prove he wrote them, and all the evidence seems to indicate against him writing them.

2. There has not been one person who has known Ron Paul well for a decent amount of time that has called him racist. No one has ever heard him say these things, and everyone who knows him seems to say the articles sound nothing like him.

3. Why does Nelson Linder, the President of the Austin NAACP, specifically state that Ron Paul is not racist?

4. Why is Ron Paul the only candidate to even bring up the fact that the drug wars and judicial system target minorities?

5. Ron Paul's individualist philosophy doesn't even treat people as groups. Races are groupings of people by skin color and ethnicity. Treating people differently based on race (ex: Affirmative Action, Slavery, etc.) is a collectivist, a liberal position. The libertarian philosophy includes equality before the law and protection of life, liberty, and property for all.

6. This is an attempt by liberals and false-conservatives to smear Ron Paul, because they can't find any real issues to refute.

[Paulitics 2011]

why are they tea partiers if they don't like ron paul?

This too. Mention the Tea Party moneybomb that's going on today, how it started in 2007, and the Tea Party started in 2007 over the bailouts, way before the healthcare issue.

[acptulsa]

You might also mention that a disproportionate number of poor, including a disproportionate number of minorities, have died in the wars that he alone opposes. And that's just from our own side, never mind the total casualties.

[playboymommy]

I think these guys and the lady make great points.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsW1eIAYilc

[kylejack]

1. There is absolutely no proof Ron wrote the articles. They were written in his newsletter, but writers were frequently hired to write articles. The actual article itself has no credit given to Ron Paul
Actually, they were signed by 'him'. I don't think he wrote them, but they did give credit to him.

[TheNewYorker]

for a supposed racist, ron paul has a lot of jewish friends. His campaign manager is jewish. His economics advisor is jewish. His favorite singer is jewish.

[heavenlyboy34]

for a supposed racist, ron paul has a lot of jewish friends. His campaign manager is jewish. His economics advisor is jewish. His favorite singer is jewish.Plus, Mises and Rothbard were Jewish.

[TheNewYorker]

Plus, Mises and Rothbard were Jewish. heh, ron sounds like quite the anti-semite

[RDM]

Post the video of the president of the NAACP from Austin talking about knowing Ron for 20 years and saying it's all BS.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjniahS5Rzc&feature=fvst


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGhv3paNz6U

Take your pick...they're both good.

[Davy Crockett]

I remember something about it, and that One's People Project's Daryle Lamont Jenkins took full credit for the story published in the New Republic.

Six months prior to the newsletters being published, anti-racists from the OPP and Bill White, commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party began spreading the announcement of the New Republic article all over the Internet. The links are all dead now, but I did find this on VNN:

http://sitewww.vnnforum.com......./showthread.php?t=72003

Copied in full below so that no one has to go the VNN link. I think if someone can verify this, it will show that this whole story was concocted by shady individuals with their own personal agendas.


Hey Bill,

It's been a while since last we spoke... better than a year... maybe two.

There is something that has been troubling me for the last couple of months.

When you worked with the New Republic to release the story of the Ron Paul newsletters... did you know that Daryle Lamont Jenkins ALSO worked with the SAME reporter?

I sent Daryle an email with evidence I had collected that YOU in fact DID work with the reporter.

This is the email I got in return.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/HeavyFed/Picture86.png

He confessed that HE had worked with the reporter... and said YOU were full of crap.

I had been suspicious of Daryles actions... which is why I sent the email worded the way I had.

You see... Daryle ran the DoucheBag Patrol on MySpace... not directly... but through another "friend" of mine, SamDamnit.

We knew the newsletter article was going to be published... long before it ever was.

We had been preparing the public by using our websites and influence to spread twisted truths and outright lies about Ron Paul.

Then the newsletter article was released the day of the first Primary.

I knew I had been used. I began searching for evidence... and came across quite a few posts of yours... showing definite foreknowledge of their release.

I then sent the email to Daryle... asking why we were working on the same side as a KNOW Nazi... YOU... Bill White.

Do you have any knowledge or EVIDENCE of Daryle working WITH you on the articles?

I sure would like to have it... if you do.

My "friends" have been calling ME a Nazi and a racist ever since I began asking questions and I announced I was supporting Ron Paul.

ME... a Nazi and a Racist?

What the hell are they trying to cover up?


Peace,
Heavy Fed

-----------------------------------------------

ALERT! Nazis AND Anti-Racists working together against Ron Paul!


Evidence of the Establishment interfering with the elections?

The reward for proof of Ron Paul’s racism...has been raised!



Just a few weeks ago...I was part of a huge conspiracy of anti-racist activists...activists who online and in public...were bent on the destruction of the Ron Paul Campaign. We used our websites and our online influence to spread outright false and misleading information. We began this online influence at least six months prior to the release of the Ron Paul Newsletters. We knew they were going to be released.

I was originally...a Ron Paul supporter...I was stunned when I heard from other Anti-Racism advocates that Ron Paul had released such Newsletters. I was never shown actual newsletters...only told that they would soon be released. I trusted in my fellow activists...I had been working with most of them for several years...they had never steered me wrong before. Then right before the primaries...the Newsletters were released. Did you get that?

Right before the primaries...the newsletters were released!

I felt used. Obviously the newsletters were old news...and an orchestrated release of information...I was a cog...in the wheel of the Establishment.

An Establishment...bent on the destruction...of the man...bent on THEIR destruction!

Do not believe their lies...this man...Dr. Ron Paul...is NOT a racist!

I KNOW racists! I’ve lived amongst racists! I fight racism DAILY!

If a man is so publicly racist...as to release newsletters...so vehemently racist in their content...he is racist in other ways publicly as well.

If anyone...can come up with video or acceptable audio...proof...of Ron Paul making racist statements...like the ones found in those newsletters...I will auction everything I own on Ebay...and give the proceeds to the Candidate of their choice!

That’s got to be at least $20,000-$100,000 ...depending on how the auction goes...maybe more.

I believe Ron Paul...I believe that even though those newsletters were released in his name...he did not author them.

I have looked through that man’s entire life...I can say indeed...he is no racist.

Peace,

Heavy Fed

Question:

What do Daryle Lamont Jenkins of OnePeoplesProject.com(anti-racist) and
Bill White, Commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party, of Overthrow.com have in common?

Answer:

They have the same goals...and have been conspiring together for the last six months!
They have conspired together...to make public...the now famous...Ron Paul Newsletters.
They have conspired together...to ATTACK a US Congressman...with 20 years of exemplary service.
They have conspired together...to use their website...and influence...to push outright lies...and deceptive statements concerning Ron Paul.
They have duped ALL of their members...and have made them all complicit in their great deception.

These individuals are not about bringing people together as they claim...but instead are about furthering THEIR agendas.

People like this...are dangerous.

I tricked Daryle into admitting what they had done...I sent him the evidence I had of Bill White’s actions...and when faced with the possibility of Bill White taking all of the credit...he quickly took responsibility.

[jmdrake]

1. There is absolutely no proof Ron wrote the articles. They were written in his newsletter, but writers were frequently hired to write articles. The actual article itself has no credit given to Ron Paul, and he never wrote them. He DID NOT write them, you cannot prove he wrote them, and all the evidence seems to indicate against him writing them.

2. There has not been one person who has known Ron Paul well for a decent amount of time that has called him racist. No one has ever heard him say these things, and everyone who knows him seems to say the articles sound nothing like him.

3. Why does Nelson Linder, the President of the Austin NAACP, specifically state that Ron Paul is not racist?

4. Why is Ron Paul the only candidate to even bring up the fact that the drug wars and judicial system target minorities?

5. Ron Paul's individualist philosophy doesn't even treat people as groups. Races are groupings of people by skin color and ethnicity. Treating people differently based on race (ex: Affirmative Action, Slavery, etc.) is a collectivist, a liberal position. The libertarian philosophy includes equality before the law and protection of life, liberty, and property for all.

6. This is an attempt by liberals and false-conservatives to smear Ron Paul, because they can't find any real issues to refute.

All good points, especially point # 4. Add to that the fact that the writing style of the newsletters aren't even Ron's. It was a stupid ploy by some people who worked for Ron, but it didn't represent Ron's actual views.

[Davy Crockett]

Here is another hit piece on Ron Paul back in December of 2007.
h xxp://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2007/12/20/ron-paul-bill-white/
Ron Paul Meets With Neo-Nazis All The Time, Says Top Neo Nazi

Who is this Bill White?


Once the head of the neo-Nazi American National Socialist Workers Party, in December 2009 a federal jury found White guilty of threatening several people through intimidating phone calls and internet postings. He was sentenced to 2 ½ years in prison at an April 2010 hearing. In January 2011, White was found guilty in another case of posting personal information on his website about the jury foreman in the trial of another white supremacist. A federal judge threw out that conviction three months later on First Amendment grounds, and White was released April 20.

h xxp://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/07/27/......neo-nazi-bill-white-back-in-the-real-estate-business/

[jmdrake]

Here is another hit piece on Ron Paul back in December of 2007.

h xxp://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2007/12/20/ron-paul-bill-white/ Ron Paul Meets With Neo-Nazis All The Time, Says Top Neo Nazi

Who is this Bill White?



h xxp://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/07/27/neo-nazi-bill-white-back-in-the-real-estate-business/

Break the links.

[Davy Crockett]

Ron Paul newsletter controversy
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_presidential_campaign,_2008#Ron_Paul_news letter_controversy)

On January 8, the day of the New Hampshire primary, The New Republic published a story by James Kirchick quoting from selected newsletters published under Paul's name.[67] The publications had various names bannering "Ron Paul" prominently in the title, such as The Ron Paul Survival Report. Kirchick said that the writings showed "an obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry", and were "saturated in racism", charges echoed by Kevin Drum of the Washington Monthly's Political Animal blog.[68] Kirchick noted that one article referred to African-American rioters as "barbarians" and suggested that the Los Angeles riots of 1992 only stopped when it came time for "blacks to pick up their welfare checks". Other issues gave tactical advice to local militia groups and advanced various conspiracy theories.[69]

In 1996 the media inquired into these passages, having been brought to light by Paul's congressional opponent Charles "Lefty" Morris; Paul's congressional campaign countered the statements were taken out of context.[70] The newsletters, attributed to Paul, made statements such as "opinion polls consistently show only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions," "if you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be", and referring to Martin Luther King as a "pro-communist philanderer" and to Martin Luther King Day as "hate Whitey day."[71][72] An issue from 1992 refers to carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos."[73] In an article title "The Pink House" the newsletter wrote that " "Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."[72]

In 2001 Paul gave his own account of the newsletters, stating the documents were authored by ghostwriters, and that while he did not author the challenged passages, he bore "some moral responsibility" for their publication.[74] Paul's 2008 presidential campaign repeated these assertions when the challenged passages resurfaced again in Kirchick's January 2008 article.[75] Paul "never uttered such words and denounced such small-minded thoughts," saying Martin Luther King, Jr., and Rosa Parks were personal heroes because they stood for individual rights, and that he had spoken highly about Parks in a 1999 floor speech in the House of Representatives.[76] Paul took the position that the Kirchick story was a "rehash" of a political attack received during his 1996 campaign.

In an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Paul asserted that racism is incompatible with his beliefs and that he sees people as individuals, not as part of collectives. He also dismissed the attack as an attempt to accuse him of racism by proxy, claiming that he has collected more money among African-Americans than any other Republican candidate. Blitzer stated that he was "shocked" by the newsletters, as they did not seem to reflect "the Ron Paul that I've come to know, and the viewers have come to know" over the course of several interviews during the campaign.[77]

Nelson Linder, president of the Austin chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), also defended Paul, though not in his official capacity under the NAACP: "Knowing Ron Paul's intent, I think he is trying to improve this country but I think also, when you talk about the Constitution and you constantly criticize the federal government versus state I think a lot of folks are going to misconstrue that....so I think it's very easy for folks who want to take his position out of context, and that's what I'm hearing."[78]

Reason magazine contributing editor Matt Welch found numerous references to the newsletters in news coverage of the 1996 race, many showing a defense of the newsletters by Paul and his campaign.[70] But in 2001 Paul claimed he only said otherwise in 1996 because it was too confusing to explain in the fervor of a campaign.[74]

[Davy Crockett]

Break the links.


Done.

I intend no harm, just want to point out the shady characters behind this smear of Dr. Paul.