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vita3
12-16-2011, 07:15 AM
in the Republican field?

V3n
12-16-2011, 07:57 AM
Rick Perry was in some sort of service, can't recall which one at the moment.

ross11988
12-16-2011, 08:03 AM
Rick Perry was in some sort of service, can't recall which one at the moment.

Air Force

coastie
12-16-2011, 08:13 AM
Is Ron the only veteran in the Republican field?


He will be after Iowa.

klamath
12-16-2011, 08:48 AM
The rest are Chickenhawks

Icymudpuppy
12-16-2011, 10:31 AM
Rick Perry was an Air Force C-130 Pilot rank of Captain upon leaving the Air Force in 1977. He was never involved directly in any military action, and was not involved in Vietnam. Thus, he was a serviceman, but not a Veteran. He would not be granted membership in the American Legion, or the VFW.

IndianaPolitico
12-16-2011, 10:32 AM
Rick Perry was an Air Force C-130 Pilot rank of Captain upon leaving the Air Force in 1977. He was never involved directly in any military action, and was not involved in Vietnam. Thus, he was a serviceman, but not a Veteran. He would not be granted membership in the American Legion, or the VFW.
Ron didn't see action.

Icymudpuppy
12-17-2011, 04:25 PM
Ron didn't see action.

Performing surgery on soldiers wounded in action in Vietnam in flight IS action for a medical specialist like Dr. Paul.

IndianaPolitico
12-17-2011, 04:27 PM
Performing surgery on soldiers wounded in action in Vietnam in flight IS action for a medical specialist like Dr. Paul.

He did? Wow. Can you link me to the story, I would like to read that.

FordGTGuy
12-17-2011, 04:36 PM
He did? Wow. Can you link me to the story, I would like to read that.

Just look up his history, the internet is at your fingertips...

ShaneEnochs
12-17-2011, 04:43 PM
He did? Wow. Can you link me to the story, I would like to read that.

I'm curious as to what you thought he did. He has stated that he didn't want to pick up a gun, so instead he decided to be a flight surgeon for those who were wounded in combat in Vietnam.

dskalkowski
12-17-2011, 04:47 PM
http://www.pabook.libraries.psu.edu/palitmap/bios/Paul__Ronald.html

Icymudpuppy
12-17-2011, 04:47 PM
He did? Wow. Can you link me to the story, I would like to read that.

It was in a story during the 2008 election that I can't seem to find right now. However with time served from 63-68, thats 5 years of heavy US involvement in Vietnam. I would be surprised if ANY medical specialist managed to avoid caring for trauma patients during that time.

Barrex
12-17-2011, 04:52 PM
Just look up his history, the internet is at your fingertips...
How come you know that much about differences in military service?


P.s.

You are lazy I wanted to read that too. :)

virgil47
12-17-2011, 04:54 PM
Rick Perry was an Air Force C-130 Pilot rank of Captain upon leaving the Air Force in 1977. He was never involved directly in any military action, and was not involved in Vietnam. Thus, he was a serviceman, but not a Veteran. He would not be granted membership in the American Legion, or the VFW.

You are incorrect. He may not have been a combat veteran but he most certainly is a veteran of military service. There is a difference. As for the VFW I am not sure you would have had to actually be in country during war time to be a member.

FordGTGuy
12-17-2011, 04:58 PM
How come you know that much about differences in military service?


P.s.

You are lazy I wanted to read that too. :)


I'm not lazy, I just don't feel like doing something you can do in a couple minutes yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/who-is-ron-paul/
http://www.rense.com/general77/ronpaulrecord.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_War_+_Peace.htm

Yoddle
12-17-2011, 05:22 PM
Only Paul and Perry. Gingrich was drafted into the military in the 60's but got several deferments and ended up choosing not to go because he didn't think 1person would matter.

Paul called him out on this too saying, "He's probably as aggressive with the military as anybody. He supports all the wars in the Middle East a thousand times more than I would. But you know in the nineteen-sixties when I was drafted in the military, he got several deferments. He chose not to go. Now he'll send our kids to war."

vita3
12-17-2011, 05:24 PM
Thanks everybody

Barrex
12-17-2011, 05:45 PM
I'm not lazy, I just don't feel like doing something you can do in a couple minutes yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/who-is-ron-paul/
http://www.rense.com/general77/ronpaulrecord.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_War_+_Peace.htm

It was a joke but thanks ;)

Keith and stuff
12-17-2011, 05:48 PM
Rick Perry was an Air Force C-130 Pilot rank of Captain upon leaving the Air Force in 1977. He was never involved directly in any military action, and was not involved in Vietnam. Thus, he was a serviceman, but not a Veteran. He would not be granted membership in the American Legion, or the VFW.

I do not know how it was in 1977. Now, if you are active duty for a year when a war is happening (and in this case, Iraq counts as a war), you are considered a veteran.

McDermit
12-17-2011, 06:29 PM
Only Paul and Perry. Gingrich was drafted into the military in the 60's but got several deferments and ended up choosing not to go because he didn't think 1person would matter.

Paul called him out on this too saying, "He's probably as aggressive with the military as anybody. He supports all the wars in the Middle East a thousand times more than I would. But you know in the nineteen-sixties when I was drafted in the military, he got several deferments. He chose not to go. Now he'll send our kids to war."

Also noteworthy:

Romney got a student deferment and then a ministerial deferment (to work for his church and live in a castle in France,) then another student deferment before he received a high draft number in the draft lottery--which meant he would not be drafted.

Icymudpuppy
12-18-2011, 11:13 AM
I do not know how it was in 1977. Now, if you are active duty for a year when a war is happening (and in this case, Iraq counts as a war), you are considered a veteran.

American Legion started allowing any servicemember with at least one year of service in 1989. Not so much because they actually considered them veterans, but because they were getting desperate for membership. I was a member starting in 2001, but did not renew my membership last year because most of their magazine articles are anti-muslim warmongering. I wrote a rather scathing cancellation letter.