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Brian4Liberty
12-16-2011, 02:25 AM
Question - What if Iran was to develop a nuclear weapon?

Answer - That's a good question. What if Iran had a nuclear weapon? Let's start with the main concern, that some elements in Iran, especially President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, might have a desire deep in their hearts to use that weapon on Israel. So we are concerned with the very real possibility that Ahmadinejad would consider doing just that, in his own mind. In essence, we are accusing Ahmadinejad of a thought crime, and the evidence for that crime is the hyperbolic political statements that Ahmadinejad has made in the past. This is the essence of the Iran problem.

Now, that thought crime by itself, if true, would not be enough to take action. We must additionally accuse Ahmadinejad of another thought crime. We must also make the accusation that he, upon true sober reflection, would consider vaporizing hundreds of thousands or more of innocent women and children in Israel. Is he really such an animal? We have less evidence of this, yet it remains a valid concern. But we can not stop with that accusation. We must also suppose that he would also be willing to have an even greater number of innocent women and children killed in Iran during an inevitable retaliation. He would have to consider this as part of his thought process. Could he still do this? Could he make his thought crime a reality, and actually attempt to do it? To take the accusation to this point, we must believe that he is a true psychopath, a true murderer, with no inhibitions at all on taking these actions. Do we have evidence of this?

Furthermore, Ahmadinejad is not the Supreme Ruler of Iran. There is a another person with that title, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. To go further with our concerns about Iran, we must believe that Khamenei shares all of the above psychotic conditions of which Ahmadinejad stands accused. And these two men do not stand alone. There are Generals, councils and a parliament that would also have to go along with the intentional murder of their own families, of their own people and of other innocent people. Is it reasonable to believe all of that?

If a person believes that all of the above conditions have been met, is it also reasonable to examine the mind of the person making those accusations? Are they suffering from paranoia or irrational fear? Perhaps the mental state of those making the accusations needs to be examined before we go further down the path of contemplating a solution to a problem that most likely does not exist at all. For if we are to truly believe that this is the case, what other leaders and influential politicians must we worry about? North Korea? China? Russia? Cuba? Venezuela? Mexico? Canada? When will the paranoia stop?

The Goat
12-16-2011, 02:30 AM
War propaganda, that's all it is and its sickening.

PauliticsPolitics
12-16-2011, 02:31 AM
Question - What if Iran was to develop a nuclear weapon?

Grammar police: What if Iran were to develop a nuclear weapon?

Otherwise it is a nice article.

akterence
12-16-2011, 02:32 AM
Israel has said several times "we can defend ourselves."

nice read

newbitech
12-16-2011, 02:33 AM
i vote for irrational fear AND paranoia. People are just afraid a nuke will go off in their backyard. I don't even think they care about Israel as much as it is made out. Like why aren't people all worried that Iran might nuke Turkey for instance? They are an ally. Hell Iran might want to nuke Saudi Arabia.

Oh, that is right, cause someone somewhere said they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

How about we do some fact checking on that. Ron Paul is probably right, no one ever said that to begin with. It's all war propaganda, and Iran is standing up to the bully's rhetoric. What any good American parent would teach their kids.

RickyJ
12-16-2011, 02:44 AM
What if aliens landed and made us all their sex slaves? What then?
Iran may or may not ever develop a nuclear bomb, it is irrelevant whether they do so or not. Why? Because no nation on the face of the Earth is going to commit suicide by using a nuclear bomb, including Iran. Pakistan is a Muslim nation, they have had nukes for a long time now, yet they have not used them against any nation. The propaganda about Iran and its president in the media paints a picture for the average American that they want to kill Jews, while the truth of the matter is that Jews in Iran can leave anytime they want to but choose not to because they are treated very well there. They are not against Jews, they are not even against Israel as a nation, they are against the regime in Israel that is killing Palestinians wholesale and stealing yet more of their land.

mello
12-16-2011, 03:04 AM
There are 3 reasons why Iran will not nuke Israel:

1st) They are not suicidal. Ahmadinejad saber-rattles but do you think that he honestly believes that Israel would not retaliate with a massive volley of nukes. I don't think he along with his citizens would enjoy a radioactive country with a bunch of glassy craters.

2nd) The Iranians will never be able to create a nuke with technology that can vaporize Israelis while ignoring the Palestinians that also live & work nearby.

3rd) The Temple Mount. It is the second-most sacred Muslim Holy site in the world, Mecca being the first. I don't think that 1.2 billion Muslims will be happy to see that vaporized. It would be the equivalent of Obama nuking Vatican City because he got intel that Bin Laden was taking the Vatican Tour that day.

newbitech
12-16-2011, 03:08 AM
There are 3 reasons why Iran will not nuke Israel:

1st) They are not suicidal. Ahmadinejad saber-rattles but do you think that he honestly believes that Israel would not retaliate with a massive volley of nukes. I don't think he along with his citizens would enjoy a radioactive country with a bunch of glassy craters.

2nd) The Iranians will never be able to create a nuke with technology that can vaporize Israelis while ignoring the Palestinians that also live & work nearby.

3rd) The Temple Mount. It is the second-most sacred Muslim Holy site in the world, Mecca being the first. I don't think that 1.2 billion Muslims will be happy to see that vaporized. It would be the equivalent of Obama nuking Vatican City because he got intel that Bin Laden was taking the Vatican Tour that day.

don't go getting rational on us! If they can't nuke Israel, then that means they are coming for us! All the more reason to strike first!

unknown
12-16-2011, 03:11 AM
I doubt Iran will do anything, even if they had a single nuke... Another false flag like this Saudi ambassador thing wouldnt be a surprise.

Anyway, who needs WMDs to win a war? China just needs to liquidate a Trillion or so in T-bonds and watch our economy collapse over night.

Actually, they may not even need to do it, the threat alone would send jitters throughout the financial market.

Brian4Liberty
12-16-2011, 12:16 PM
Grammar police: What if Iran were to develop a nuclear weapon?


Whoops, too late to change now! At least it's not obvious (to me). ;)

braane
12-16-2011, 12:19 PM
We went into Iran and overthrew their government in the 50's (on fear)... how did that work out? Oh yeah...it inadvertently led to 9/11. Yet the neocons think that by overthrowing them yet again is safer? Words do not describe...

Brian4Liberty
12-16-2011, 01:11 PM
Pakistan is a Muslim nation, they have had nukes for a long time now, yet they have not used them against any nation. The propaganda about Iran and its president in the media paints a picture for the average American that they want to kill Jews, while the truth of the matter is that Jews in Iran can leave anytime they want to but choose not to because they are treated very well there. They are not against Jews, they are not even against Israel as a nation, they are against the regime in Israel that is killing Palestinians wholesale and stealing yet more of their land.

Good points.

Imagine if Pakistan didn't have nukes right now. No doubt there would be the same type of hysteria pumped out 24x7: "OMG, what happens if Pakistan gets a nuke, the world will end!!!" They have nukes. Nothing has happened. There is nothing to fear but fear itself, and the propagandists push fear constantly.

69360
12-16-2011, 01:36 PM
So they build a nuke. Big deal, it sits in a silo somewhere and is never used.

1. Iranians want to live, a counterstrike would kill everyone in the country.
2. Iran wants muslims to rule the holy land, not destroy it, kill the Palestinians and make the holy land unlivable for generations.

I almost vomited listening to all that neocon bloodlust last night, they are a disgrace to our country.