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sailingaway
12-15-2011, 11:16 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-gingrich-off-budget-history-024958105.html


MICHELE BACHMANN: "We have an IAEA report that just recently came out that said literally Iran is within just months of being able to obtain that (a nuclear) weapon."

RON PAUL: "There is no U.N. report that said that. It's totally wrong, what you just said."

Bachmann: "It's the IAEA report."

THE FACTS: As Paul said, the report of the International Atomic Energy Agency does not state that Iran is within months of having nuclear arms. The U.N. agency report does suggest that Iran conducted secret experiments whose sole purpose is the development of nuclear weapons but did not put a time frame on when Iran might succeed in building a bomb, and it made no final conclusion on Tehran's intent.
Bachmann also erred by arguing that Iran has "stated they will use it (a nuclear weapon) against the United States."
Iran vehemently rejects that it is developing a nuclear bomb, let alone that it plans to drop one on the U.S.

JamesButabi
12-15-2011, 11:17 PM
needs to be an advertisement. Not even joking. Ron needs to be vindicated and the people need to know they are being lied to again!

Zarn Solen
12-15-2011, 11:19 PM
Advertise this on every political site you know about, aside for candidate sites.

wgadget
12-15-2011, 11:19 PM
Tweeted.

South Park Fan
12-15-2011, 11:20 PM
Haven't you heard that facts are irrelevant in GOP debates? It's all about the style, not about the substance.

Bama Boy
12-15-2011, 11:20 PM
Thank you for posting this. I did not know the facts to this story.

MJU1983
12-15-2011, 11:21 PM
Ron Paul RIGHT /debate

:)

ronpaulfollower999
12-15-2011, 11:21 PM
Fantastic! Needs to be spread far and wide.

Kodaddy
12-15-2011, 11:24 PM
thanks for posting...i was trying to convince my idiot brother that he knew what he was talking about.

Cleaner44
12-15-2011, 11:25 PM
Great post... reposted on other forums!

Kodaddy
12-15-2011, 11:25 PM
spread this far and wide...

newbitech
12-15-2011, 11:27 PM
Thank you for posting this. I did not know the facts to this story.\

listen to your inner Paul next time =p

braane
12-15-2011, 11:27 PM
Didn't need to see the fact check to know Ron was right. He was so adamant that she was wrong that I knew immediately he knew what he was talking about.

rawful
12-15-2011, 11:28 PM
But I don't understand, she said she has all the facts!

Birdlady
12-15-2011, 11:31 PM
This is really really good! Bachmann scares me.

seyferjm
12-15-2011, 11:32 PM
Shared on FB and TheBlaze.com

Roy Bleckert
12-15-2011, 11:34 PM
Bachmann seems to be slinging it heavy here lately , Have thew fact checked the claims she made against newty ?

Matthew Zak
12-15-2011, 11:35 PM
Well, DUH.

Ron Paul knows more about absolutely everything than Michelle Bachmann. Even the female reproductive system.

NaturalMystic
12-15-2011, 11:36 PM
send it to stewart

sailingaway
12-15-2011, 11:37 PM
this is the current debate, the politifact link others are tweeting is a similar issue but not from this debate, from one in November.

rpwasright
12-15-2011, 11:39 PM
Well, DUH.

Ron Paul knows more about absolutely everything than Michelle Bachmann. Even the female reproductive system.

Thank you for that. I haven't laughed that hard in a while. LOL.

InTradePro
12-15-2011, 11:42 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/ExcitingGrowth/status/147549658397409281


IAEA report @RepRonPaul owned @MicheleBachmann http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-gingrich-off-budget-history-024958105.html facts matter Michele!

PierzStyx
12-15-2011, 11:43 PM
BOOM! Truthbomb!

InTradePro
12-15-2011, 11:44 PM
Well, DUH.

Ron Paul knows more about absolutely everything than Michelle Bachmann. Even the female reproductive system.

Unfair, he is an OBGYN! :p

louisiana4liberty
12-15-2011, 11:45 PM
Bachmann isn't just wrong...she is using her lies as war propaganda. That is unAmerican, unpatriotic, and also places our young men and women of the armed forces' lives at risk.

Bruno
12-15-2011, 11:46 PM
Bachmann isn't just wrong...she is using her lies as war propaganda. That is unAmerican, unpatriotic, and also places our young men and women of the armed forces' lives at risk.

+ 2012

Paulitics 2011
12-15-2011, 11:47 PM
Forward this to every news source you know, especially ones that are sympathetic to the cause.

Feelgood
12-15-2011, 11:54 PM
This needs a Beck/Hannity/Drudge bomb. :)

Student Of Paulism
12-15-2011, 11:57 PM
You guys arent realizing how much this helps Newt though. He is going to get a damn bump now, since Michele fucked up on Iran, it will now make it seem like Newt is telling the truth on the FM 1.8 mil issue and that he wasnt lobbying. So yea, this may Ron look good, but it helps Newt a crapload....f'n A, man. Whole debate was just meh to me :(

boneyard bill
12-15-2011, 11:59 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-gingrich-off-budget-history-024958105.html
This last point was her real whopper of a lie. She made the same claim in the last debate. Ron Paul did not call her on it either time. They don't admit to having a nuclear weapons program so what sense would it make to threaten to bomb us with one? (In fact, what sense would it make to threathen us even if they did have one? We have thousands).

When she gets to talking about Iran or Israel, this woman is completely bonkers.

NorfolkPCSolutions
12-16-2011, 12:01 AM
Well, DUH.

Ron Paul knows more about absolutely everything than Michelle Bachmann. Even the female reproductive system.

Something is deeply wrong with "Michelle Bachmann" and "female reproductive system" in the same post.

I just thought of MB in a way that I never want to, ever again. It was a grey, cold place, and there were spiders.

Student Of Paulism
12-16-2011, 12:02 AM
When she gets to talking about Iran or Israel, this woman is completely bonkers.

Yea, well she did work on a kibbutz though. Don't that count for something? :D

coastie
12-16-2011, 12:03 AM
Something is deeply wrong with "Michelle Bachmann" and "female reproductive system" in the same post.

I just thought of MB in a way that I never want to, ever again. It was a grey, cold place, and there were spiders.

Spiders suck, I hate those damn things. My deep-voiced big ass will scream like 4 yr old around those things.




<shudders>

ShaneEnochs
12-16-2011, 12:10 AM
You guys arent realizing how much this helps Newt though. He is going to get a damn bump now, since Michele fucked up on Iran, it will now make it seem like Newt is telling the truth on the FM 1.8 mil issue and that he wasnt lobbying. So yea, this may Ron look good, but it helps Newt a crapload....f'n A, man. Whole debate was just meh to me :(

After all of the attacks, you think Newt is going to get a bump? All the polls are showing him slipping. I didn't see anything in the debate that made me think that he'll get a bump. If anyone gets a bump, it'll be either Ron or Perry.

SWATH
12-16-2011, 12:11 AM
This last point was her real whopper of a lie. She made the same claim in the last debate. Ron Paul did not call her on it either time. They don't admit to having a nuclear weapons program so what sense would it make to threaten to bomb us with one? (In fact, what sense would it make to threathen us even if they did have one? We have thousands).


Sure it makes sense. Let's follow the neocon logic:

Iran=brown people, brown people are mooslims. mooslims=insane violent maniacs. Americans=exceptional

TIMB0B
12-16-2011, 12:15 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-gingrich-off-budget-history-024958105.htmlBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMM!! !!!!!!!!

dillo
12-16-2011, 12:18 AM
irans nuke is iraqs WMDs

Birdlady
12-16-2011, 12:19 AM
irans nuke is iraqs WMDs

^Exactly

kylejack
12-16-2011, 12:19 AM
Something confusing, Ron says there is no uranium enrichment, but: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/14/us-iran-nuclear-relocation-idUSTRE7BD0J120111214 ?

SWATH
12-16-2011, 12:36 AM
I think at the end of that exchange where she was making the case to pre-emptively attack a country for tenuous reasons she actually said "As president I would be on the side of peace and the American people"

sailingaway
12-16-2011, 12:38 AM
Something confusing, Ron says there is no uranium enrichment, but: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/14/us-iran-nuclear-relocation-idUSTRE7BD0J120111214 ?

that isn't what he said. There are different levels of it.

JK/SEA
12-16-2011, 12:55 AM
Well, its clear to me who has 'certain' interests in weapons building and the 'investment' aspects.

Why else are these blood thristy scum so interested in maintaining wars...somewhere and anywhere.

The Vietnam war was basically a weapons testing ground.

Follow the money, you'll find the motivation.

jkm1864
12-16-2011, 12:56 AM
Sure it makes sense. Let's follow the neocon logic:

Iran=brown people, brown people are mooslims. mooslims=insane violent maniacs. Americans=exceptional



You forgot one Neocon logic "Except for those lazy poor people right?"

ronpaulfollower999
12-16-2011, 06:20 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-gingrich-off-budget-history-024958105.html

Bump.

EBounding
12-16-2011, 06:28 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-gingrich-off-budget-history-024958105.html

Thought this was amusing:


BACHMANN: "After the debates that we had last week, PolitiFact came out and said that everything I said was true."
THE FACTS: False.