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kylejack
12-13-2011, 12:56 PM
Numbers aren't posted yet, but here's some awesome tweets about them.


ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
There are a lot of parallels between Paul's base of support in Iowa and what Obama did in 2008- young voters, independents, etc
12 minutes ago

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Paul's net favorability in Iowa is up 16 points compared to a week ago. Must have said something right in that debate
19 minutes ago

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Newt's net favorability in Iowa is down 19 points in the last week
29 minutes ago

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
We're going to get the Iowa numbers out this afternoon. Significant tightening between Gingrich and Paul in the last week
33 minutes ago

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Over the course of our Iowa field period Paul got stronger, Gingrich and Bachmann got weaker
55 minutes ago

trey4sports
12-13-2011, 12:57 PM
booyah!

z9000
12-13-2011, 12:57 PM
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sailingaway
12-13-2011, 12:58 PM
That's because he's him, and next to Gingrich, it really stands out.... :p

fade
12-13-2011, 12:59 PM
This is WONDERFUL news!

hueylong
12-13-2011, 12:59 PM
Looks like these results will reinforce the American Research Group poll showing Ging at 22% and RP @ 17%. Peaking at just the right time!

kylejack
12-13-2011, 12:59 PM
WOW. It is like night and day how much better they are running this campaign compared to 2008. To wit, it's freaking brilliant to let the Serial Hypocrisy hit ad do the talking, and then have Ron Paul play friendly grandfather at the debates even when he is condemning Newt for his actions.

Ron Paul gets to smash Newt without losing any likability, in fact, he's gaining! Insane!

jtbraine
12-13-2011, 01:00 PM
Im,nmmn

braane
12-13-2011, 01:00 PM
Oh buddy... This is amazing news.

Sola_Fide
12-13-2011, 01:00 PM
"significant tightening" between Paul and Gingrich?

Wowowowow

fade
12-13-2011, 01:00 PM
Rasmussen on Fox News now. ( I know this isn't a rasmussen poll)

Jovan Galtic
12-13-2011, 01:01 PM
Newt's net favorability in Iowa is down 19 points in the last week


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ2YJm03Oqc

brendan.orourke
12-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Question, what exactly is favorability? Is that just what they call their polls of candidates? Or is this worded in a certain way?

PastaRocket848
12-13-2011, 01:03 PM
YES! Just the right news at just the right time. We have a solid chance at this.

airborne373
12-13-2011, 01:03 PM
Oh Newty, enjoy your consolation prize. Years of book signings and appearances on main stream media. Its a nice gig if you can get it.

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:04 PM
Question, what exactly is favorability? Is that just what they call their polls of candidates? Or is this worded in a certain way?
Whether or not they find the candidate likable. Net favorability is % who have a favorable opinion minus % who have unfavorable opinion. Either a bunch more people like Paul, a bunch fewer hate him, or both.

low preference guy
12-13-2011, 01:04 PM
Question, what exactly is favorability? Is that just what they call their polls of candidates? Or is this worded in a certain way?

they ask you something like: do you have a favorable opinion of X? it's a good indicator of your potential. if you have low favorability, you have a low ceiling.

ronpaulitician
12-13-2011, 01:05 PM
I have something in my eye. Both of them.

brendan.orourke
12-13-2011, 01:05 PM
Ok, so it's not "If the caucus was held today, who would you vote for" then. Do you think that makes a favorability poll less important?

CaptUSA
12-13-2011, 01:06 PM
Favorability is a precursor to real poll numbers. It is huge that Paul's are rising. If this keeps up, he will peak during the caucuses. We may have a landslide on our hands.

On a personal note, I'm hearing more favorability around here as well. Still not taking the plunge, but at least their becoming open to Paul.

limequat
12-13-2011, 01:07 PM
Having...trouble...breathing.

eduardo89
12-13-2011, 01:08 PM
ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Paul's net favorability in Iowa is up 16 points compared to a week ago. Must have said something right in that debate
19 minutes ago

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
Newt's net favorability in Iowa is down 19 points in the last week
29 minutes ago

ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
We're going to get the Iowa numbers out this afternoon. Significant tightening between Gingrich and Paul in the last week
33 minutes ago



Ron is really rising with his favorability ratings and newt is crashing. I wonder if this means that Ron's poll numbers shot up, Newts numbers crashed or a combination of both. Will be interesting to see.

I'm hoping it's like this:
Newt 20%
Paul 20%
Romney 16%

brendan.orourke
12-13-2011, 01:08 PM
Favorability is a precursor to real poll numbers. It is huge that Paul's are rising. If this keeps up, he will peak during the caucuses. We may have a landslide on our hands.

On a personal note, I'm hearing more favorability around here as well. Still not taking the plunge, but at least their becoming open to Paul.That's what I've felt all along...I really think Paul could win in a landslide...wait did I just say that? Is this possibility? Yes it is. Ron Paul could win Iowa in a landslide!

trey4sports
12-13-2011, 01:08 PM
We are on a roll. How soon until the numbers are posted?


Tonight IIRC

limequat
12-13-2011, 01:09 PM
That's what I've felt all along...I really think Paul could win in a landslide...wait did I just say that? Is this possibility? Yes it is. Ron Paul could win Iowa in a landslide!


RANDSLIDE!

InTradePro
12-13-2011, 01:09 PM
This is from PPP polling. Don't get to excited. It was only a few days ago when they showed Bachmann at 13%, around 4% above other polls. Bachmann hadn't gone up and she hasn't fell, it's noise in sampling.

http://gop2012polls.blogspot.com/

justatrey
12-13-2011, 01:10 PM
I feel like I'm 8 years old again about to run downstairs on Christmas Morning :D

trey4sports
12-13-2011, 01:10 PM
be ready for attacks. It's coming.

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:11 PM
Ok, so it's not "If the caucus was held today, who would you vote for" then. Do you think that makes a favorability poll less important?
It indicates your ceiling. People who hate your guts aren't going to vote for you, even if they find a problem with their chosen candidate. So increasing the favorability makes all those votes now potentially winnable, if we make the right arguments and use the right persuasion.

mwkaufman
12-13-2011, 01:13 PM
PPP Iowa Net Favorability 12/3-12/5 12/11-12/13
Gingrich +31 +12
Santorum +23 ?
Bachmann +21 ?
Paul +14 +30
Romney +4 ?
Perry -2 ?
Huntsman -15 ?

Paul might lead in net favorability in PPP's Iowa poll from 12/11-12/13.

sailingaway
12-13-2011, 01:13 PM
be ready for attacks. It's coming.

there are already hit websites out there. I think the big attack will come after Iowa if I am right that the establishment is split on Iowa, some wanting Gingrich but Romney's folks wanting Gingrich to be blunted. Ron is clearly in the best spot to do the blunting. If I am right, they will want him to do well or win in Iowa (if Romney can't) but not want him to have momentum to NH, so they will attack right after Iowa.

Fr3shjive
12-13-2011, 01:14 PM
Rasmussen on Fox News now. ( I know this isn't a rasmussen poll)

Link?

KingRobbStark
12-13-2011, 01:14 PM
Of course favorability is important! You're not going to vote for someone you don't like.

sailingaway
12-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Link?

RAsmussen has Ron at 18% so they may have FINALLY included independents and or Dems who plan to caucus with GOP. It is getting close to when polls are rated.

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:18 PM
Dems can't vote in NH GOP primary. Indies can, or Dems who switched back to independent or GOP a couple months ago (deadline has passed).

harikaried
12-13-2011, 01:18 PM
RANDSLIDE!RONSLAUGHT?

parocks
12-13-2011, 01:21 PM
PPP Iowa Net Favorability 12/3-12/5 12/11-12/13
Gingrich +31 +12
Santorum +23 ?
Bachmann +21 ?
Paul +14 +30
Romney +4 ?
Perry -2 ?
Huntsman -15 ?

Paul might lead in net favorability in PPP's Iowa poll from 12/11-12/13.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_IA_1205925.pdf - these are the old numbers too.

trey4sports
12-13-2011, 01:23 PM
there are already hit websites out there. I think the big attack will come after Iowa if I am right that the establishment is split on Iowa, some wanting Gingrich but Romney's folks wanting Gingrich to be blunted. Ron is clearly in the best spot to do the blunting. If I am right, they will want him to do well or win in Iowa (if Romney can't) but not want him to have momentum to NH, so they will attack right after Iowa.


yes, that is my thought on paper as well. I believe that as things get closer and closer and it is looking more and more like a Paul win is inevitable in Iowa then I believe the reality will sink in and attacks will come from all ends. I imagine Romney will see that Rons momentum is eroding his base in NH and figure best to nip it in the bud.

Canderson
12-13-2011, 01:23 PM
If were too close, the Fox News Debate might be a feeding freenzie on ron

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_IA_1205925.pdf - these are the old numbers too.
12/5/2011

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
of Ron Paul?
Favorable......................................... ............... 52%
Unfavorable .................................................. .. 38%
Not sure .................................................. ........ 10%

Okay. So I wonder if the bump came more from Favorable climb or Unfavorable drop.

eduardo89
12-13-2011, 01:26 PM
12/5/2011

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion
of Ron Paul?
Favorable......................................... ............... 52%
Unfavorable .................................................. .. 38%
Not sure .................................................. ........ 10%

Okay. So I wonder if the bump came more from Favorable climb or Unfavorable drop.

Wouldn't unfavorable have to drop in order for favorable to climb? There will always be about 8-15% saying not sure in these things.

trey4sports
12-13-2011, 01:26 PM
If were too close, the Fox News Debate might be a feeding freenzie on ron

my thoughts. Here comes Iran, drugs, prostitution, and glee.

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:27 PM
Wouldn't unfavorable have to drop in order for favorable to climb? There will always be about 8-15% saying not sure in these things.
If there was no change to Not Sure, yes. But it's naturally going to decrease as we get close.

parocks
12-13-2011, 01:28 PM
Last week -
Gingrich 27%
Paul 18%
Romney 16%
Bachmann 13%

jFico89
12-13-2011, 01:29 PM
http://libertyhumor.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/2461877502_dd57877c8f3.jpg?w=1000&h=

eduardo89
12-13-2011, 01:29 PM
Last week -
Gingrich 27%
Paul 18%
Romney 16%
Bachmann 13%

This week:
Gingrich 22%
Paul 20%
Romney 16%
Bachmann 9%
Perry 7%

Those are my guesses

JohnGalt23g
12-13-2011, 01:30 PM
That's because he's him, and next to Gingrich, it really stands out.... :p

Once again:

Ron Paul = "Big Dog"

Newt Gingrich = "Whimpering Little Shih Tzu"

Occam's Banana
12-13-2011, 01:31 PM
Paul's net favorability in Iowa is up 16 points compared to a week ago.


Newt's net favorability in Iowa is down 19 points in the last week


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86ok3ug1S8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86ok3ug1S8

sailingaway
12-13-2011, 01:33 PM
http://libertyhumor.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/2461877502_dd57877c8f3.jpg?w=1000&h=

participation is effing it up?

Indiana4Paul
12-13-2011, 01:34 PM
my thoughts. Here comes Iran, drugs, prostitution, and glee.

I don't think the newsletters will be a big deal in the GOP. I think other attacks will be much more prominent.

Paul needs to be ready to spin everything towards Jobs/Economy.

eduardo89
12-13-2011, 01:35 PM
participation is effing it up?

If ron wins, yes. (according to msm)

specsaregood
12-13-2011, 01:35 PM
I don't think the newsletters will be a big deal in the GOP. I think other attacks will be much more prominent.

Romney belongs to a church that didn't let blacks take part in the priesthood or temple activities until 1978 and taught that dark skin was a curse from God. He certainly doesn't want to bring the topic of race up for discussion.

Forty Twice
12-13-2011, 01:36 PM
Who determines audience at Fox News Debate? Will there be Paul supporters in the audience?

low preference guy
12-13-2011, 01:38 PM
Romney belongs to a church that didn't let blacks take part in the priesthood or temple activities until 1978 and taught that dark skin was a curse from God.

the msm won't mention it and cover his ass.

eduardo89
12-13-2011, 01:38 PM
This week:
Gingrich 22%
Paul 20%
Romney 16%
Bachmann 9%
Perry 7%

Those are my guesses

I was pretty close! Ron's doing even better thani thought :)


Iowa:
Gingrich 22,
Paul 21,
Romney 16,
Bachmann 11,
Perry 9,
Santorum 8,
Huntsman 5,
Johnson 1:

tinyurl.com/77gbfdb

djruden
12-13-2011, 01:39 PM
Who determines audience at Fox News Debate? Will there be Paul supporters in the audience?

Tickets were sold thru the Iowa GOP website as they were for all debates in Iowa this year. Tho a number of tickets might have been allocated to each campaign and maybe some for Fox News to give to various outlets. I've been to 2 Iowa debates (ames and des moines) and most attendees are members of Iowa GOP (as far as I could tell)

No Free Beer
12-13-2011, 01:39 PM
Ron's performance in the debate was key. He showed a lighter side of himself and the voters in Iowa respond to that.

CaptUSA
12-13-2011, 01:39 PM
Do you realize that the more they may step up their attacks, the more attention that will give to Paul? That means the more people will take a look at him. And since his record is pristine, more people will like him.

Oh, how I hope they try to pick a fight in the debate!!! That will make this moneybomb so huge! That will guarantee we win Iowa! The beautiful thing about Ron Paul is that the more they attack him, the more support he will gain! He's like political Jui Jitsu!

eduardo89
12-13-2011, 01:41 PM
Among likely voters under the age of 45, Paul leads Gingrich 30-16: tinyurl.com/77gbfdb

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:41 PM
ppppolls PublicPolicyPolling
In last week Paul's net favorability has gone from +14 (52/38) to +30 (61/31). Making new friends: http://tinyurl.com/77gbfdb

tremendoustie
12-13-2011, 01:42 PM
I was pretty close! Ron's doing even better thani thought :)


Iowa:
Gingrich 22,
Paul 21,
Romney 16,
Bachmann 11,
Perry 9,
Santorum 8,
Huntsman 5,
Johnson 1:

tinyurl.com/77gbfdb

#winning :)

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:42 PM
So +9 favorable, -7 unfavorable. They like him, they really like him!

freejack
12-13-2011, 01:42 PM
I was pretty close! Ron's doing even better thani thought :)


Iowa:
Gingrich 22,
Paul 21,
Romney 16,
Bachmann 11,
Perry 9,
Santorum 8,
Huntsman 5,
Johnson 1:

tinyurl.com/77gbfdb

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

specsaregood
12-13-2011, 01:43 PM
Uhoh, it looks like Paul broke through the 20% ceiling! Too bad for that pesky 25% ceiling....

Diurdi
12-13-2011, 01:43 PM
PPP tweet:

Among Iowa voters whose minds are totally made up: Paul 29, Gingrich 21, Romney 18, Bachmann 11

Eryxis
12-13-2011, 01:44 PM
Just saw the tweets... these are exciting times.

Canderson
12-13-2011, 01:45 PM
i can't wait for this to go up on RCP

ronpaulfollower999
12-13-2011, 01:45 PM
Uhoh, it looks like Paul broke through the 20% ceiling! Too bad for that pesky 25% ceiling....

How does Ron's head not hurt busting through all these ceilings? :D

kylejack
12-13-2011, 01:45 PM
PPP tweet:

Among Iowa voters whose minds are totally made up: Paul 29, Gingrich 21, Romney 18, Bachmann 11
Very exciting. Once we peel them off they go on LOCKDOWN, money in the bank.

low preference guy
12-13-2011, 01:48 PM
establishment heads are exploding right now! get ready for temper tantrums from radio hosts and desperate attacks.

IndianaPolitico
12-13-2011, 01:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtl2ZuJpG9M&feature=player_embedded#!

jmdrake
12-13-2011, 01:50 PM
Awesome news!

specsaregood
12-13-2011, 01:52 PM
establishment heads are exploding right now! get ready for temper tantrums from radio hosts and desperate attacks.

Just wait though, when the real knives come out they will come from our "allies". Mark my words it'll happen.

CaptUSA
12-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Let us be careful.

Each campaign that has gone through this has thought it was because they were the greatest. Let us not get overconfident and make this mistake. The biggest take-away here should be the favorability ratings! Those are nice. It means we have an opening.

But, let's not get ahead of ourselves. We have an opening. We are not gaining because of real support, but merely because people are finding out about Gingrich. This support will go away fast if we don't grab onto it.

Revolution9
12-13-2011, 01:53 PM
Minions are double checking their asses right now as they have some serious decisions to make.

Rev9

low preference guy
12-13-2011, 01:56 PM
Just wait though, when the real knives come out they will come from our "allies". Mark my words it'll happen.

What do you have in mind? Cato and Reason?

icon124
12-13-2011, 01:56 PM
that ABC debate was the best debate by far...Ron owned everyone and said exactly what he needed to say...while at the same time knocking his fake competition down a few notices.

And to think ABC told me after the debate that Newt was the clear winner. Why don't I listen more often?

parocks
12-13-2011, 04:41 PM
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_IA_1213925.pdf
PPP Iowa

18-29

Ron Paul 42%
Bachmann 13%
Romney 13%
Gingrich 6
Santorum 6
Huntsman 6

paul favorability
18-29
77 favorable
16 un
6 don't know

30-45
70 favorable
24 un
6 don't know

LibertyDreckman
12-13-2011, 04:51 PM
The favorability numbers are just as a big of a deal as the poll numbers themselves. This means we can still attract more voters, get more people on board!