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sailingaway
12-12-2011, 11:43 AM
http://www.campaignforliberty.org/profile/7786/blog/2011/12/12/what-happened-ndaa

pcosmar
12-12-2011, 11:47 AM
It fell out of the news cycle and will be implemented quietly.

:(

Ben Bernanke
12-12-2011, 12:04 PM
It never was in the news cycle.

donnay
12-12-2011, 12:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiKvSz_wX8

:mad:

donnay
12-12-2011, 12:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWXwzcE5P0M

Lucille
12-12-2011, 12:21 PM
The National Defense Authorization Act, (H.R. 1540/S. 1867) is now in a conference committee squaring the differences between the House and the Senate version. The House passed a motion that allows them to hold the meetings for this important conference committee behind closed doors. Arguments pertaining to something as important as overturning the Posse Comitatus Act and Habeus Corpus deserve to be heard in a public forum.

Click here to see a list of House & Senate Conferees. If your representative or senator is one of those listed, please contact them immediately at 202-224-3121 and urge them not to sign the conference report unless the language of Sec. 1031 & 1032 is removed or modified to explicitly exclude all U.S. Citizens and lawful resident aliens.

A vote on the conference report could come as early as this Thursday in the House of Representatives. It is imperative you contact your representative and both of your senators today to urge them to vote no on the NDAA Conference Report unless Sec. 1031 & 1032 are removed or the offending sections are modified in such a way as to prohibit the application to U.S. Citizens and lawful resident aliens.

Like McCain is ever going to vote against his own bill. I get the feeling, no matter who is called, it would be nothing but spinning wheels anyway, outside of giving them your piece of mind, which can be satisfying, but also might land you on some "list."

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security (http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html).