Newt Teflon

[samsung1]

I have been talking to people and reading the internet forums and people are saying they will still support gingrich even after all the stuff from the past has been brought up. It seems it will take something new to bring down newts polling numbers. It was the same with Cain, where he was teflon for a period of 2-3 weeks. Have you guys heard any different from Iowa voters?

[Adam West]

Dead man walking.

[69360]

Maybe, maybe not. His daily gallup polling numbers seem to have peaked on the 6th and are trending down. A lot of people saw that last debate so we'll have to see what happens as that sinks in. The MSM was trying to pump him as winning, but anyone who saw him take all those hits with half a brain knows the truth.

Some new dirt would be ideal, but he is likely going down on his own.

[Adam West]

If Newt wins the nomination, pack your bags.

Seriously.

[Krugerrand]

Maybe, maybe not. His daily gallup polling numbers seem to have peaked on the 6th and are trending down. A lot of people saw that last debate so we'll have to see what happens as that sinks in. The MSM was trying to pump him as winning, but anyone who saw him take all those hits with half a brain knows the truth.

Some new dirt would be ideal, but he is likely going down on his own.

I'm going to guess that Newt is smart enough to keep himself out of trouble for 'new dirt.' But, I could be wrong.

[CaptUSA]

Do you want this explained?

It doesn't do enough good to simply explain why someone is bad. That is only one step. There must be another viable option.

This is why Cain stayed so high in the polls for so long. People didn't have anyone else that was any better. Then, the media gave them back Gingrich. They suggested he was a viable alternative. Since he has assumed this position, people will either ignore what you are saying about him, or they'll convince themselves that it doesn't matter.

The good news? Even without bringing him down in the polls, it dampens the enthusiasm for this type of candidate. Their support is very fragile. Once another viable option is presented, people will leave in droves. Also, it makes these people less likely to work hard for this candidate - and if there's bad weather, they may not come out at all.

The bad news? Ron Paul will never be presented as the other option. If you're thinking that it may happen, you need to stop deluding yourselves.

What can we do? Keep working! If Paul wins Iowa, or gets a lot of delegates placing second, his standing will be increased. The media won't present him as a viable option, but enough of the elcetorate will. Fundraising will increase. Diehards will come back to us. Independents will become more interested. And, by super Tuesday, he will continue to pick up big amounts of delegates, preventing Romney or Gingrich from hitting the magic number. At that point, we will be in the driver's seat.

[69360]

I'm going to guess that Newt is smart enough to keep himself out of trouble for 'new dirt.' But, I could be wrong.

Doesn't have to currently concurring. Just a new revelation from the past.

Interesting tidbit I saw in the line at the grocery store yesterday, Newt is on the front page of the national enquirer.

[No Free Beer]

I disagree,

I feel as though Saturday night's debate hurt the Grinch a little bit. I am not saying his numbers will fall like the rest of them, but that performance put doubt into people's heads. Ron looked great, so as far as the independents go, Ron should be fine.

[Elwar]

I noticed with Cain that his supporters grew weary of defending him. They were glad to jump off of his wagon once they were given an easy opportunity.

[Eric21ND]

He can't defeat Obama. Obama wins South Carolina over Gingrich, Obama crushes him in the battleground state of Florida! No democrat has won SC since 1976!

If Newt is the nominee expect Obama to run the table and win 40+ states.

[tsetsefly]

If Newt wins the nomination, pack your bags.

Seriously.
He is by far the worst candidate, worse than Obama.

He is a warhawk that will lead us into Iran, does not want to cut spending, and is a megalomaniac. I can't believe people are willing to vote for him.

[KingNothing]

I thought Romney was an awful candidate. Then Perry surged, and I couldn't believe someone that terrible could be a frontrunner. Then Cain surged, and I didn't believe it could get any worse. Now Newt is the frontrunner, and I'm completely shocked that such a non-conservative, authoritarian pig could be leading the pack. This has to be rock bottom.... right?

[Krugerrand]

He can't defeat Obama. Obama wins South Carolina over Gingrich, Obama crushes him in the battleground state of Florida! No democrat has won SC since 1976!

If Newt is the nominee expect Obama to run the table and win 40+ states.

I think this is a huge point to emphasize with Newt. A Newt GOP nomination will mean a landslide re-election for Obama. Obama supporters HATE Newt and will show up in big numbers to vote against him. He may be GOP electable, but he's completely UNELECTABLE when it's for all the marbles.

[Adam West]

He is by far the worst candidate, worse than Obama.

He is a warhawk that will lead us into Iran, does not want to cut spending, and is a megalomaniac. I can't believe people are willing to vote for him.

I know most people do not follow politics as closely as those of us on this forum. But... WTF?

[Ronulus]

I know most people do not follow politics as closely as those of us on this forum. But... WTF?

Well possibly true. People think Obama is a socialist yet Newt actively endorses the third wave and tries to push some really scary legislation in both expanding military and police control over the people and social programs.

[airborne373]

C'mon - the GOP establishment wants to pick a loser for Obama to beat. McCain had no chance with real conservatives and Gingrich will have no chance with conservatives in the general. Four more years of Obama, which is what the GOP & Neo-Con establishment want. Obama has proven he will provide more wars, endless spending and debt.

[tremendoustie]

I think the fact that he cosponsored the fairness doctrine is a killer for republicans. This should be mentioned often, along with voting to create the dept of education, cosponsoring global warming legislation, and his repeated support for gun control.

[roversaurus]

I think this is a huge point to emphasize with Newt. A Newt GOP nomination will mean a landslide re-election for Obama. Obama supporters HATE Newt and will show up in big numbers to vote against him. He may be GOP electable, but he's completely UNELECTABLE when it's for all the marbles.

Gingrich is unelectable. Not only because he energizes democrats but independents hate Newt.

Republican voters need to hear this. It doesn't matter if this is fair or not. It is the way it is. Independents hate Gingrich. You must have independents to win the general election. ... At some point we can tell them that independents are Ron Pauls strong suit.

[JohnGalt23g]

If history tells us anything, it is that there is no such thing as Teflon Newt. He will crumble and self-destruct at some point; he can't help it. He is unworthy of holding this type of power, and deep down he knows it. And eventually engages in actions certain to bring about a fall from power that he knows is not only justified, but is the only justifiable outcome.

[airborne373]

Teflon? No I don't think so. However Newt is a slippery little hobgoblin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373wcoVen88&list=UUft64Fa0a0MeJzL0KeA4dIA&feature=plcp).

[Johnnybags]

I am thinking Newts spurned DC lovers will be coming out next week or so. Shaking him down as we speak. I see Gloria Allred in the future.

[Ronulus]

Did anyone notice that when Ron asked him about the money he received from freddie mac that he had a twitch on his face? Could this be a tell? When Ron says he was a spokesman for them his right eye like twitches.

[69360]

I am thinking Newts spurned DC lovers will be coming out next week or so. Shaking him down as we speak. I see Gloria Allred in the future.

I can't see him making it to the Caucus without a bimbo explosion.

I was in the grocery store line yesterday and saw Newt on the front cover of the national enquirer. One of the women from the past must have sold her story to them.

[seapilot]

Its important to beat Newt in Iowa and place a solid 2nd or at least above him in NH. He will fade away as fast as he came in. If he beats Romney in Iowa or NH then he may hang on a little while longer. People are so undecided that they will hook up to a RP win because its easy to support a winner.

[Xenophage]

He can't defeat Obama. Obama wins South Carolina over Gingrich, Obama crushes him in the battleground state of Florida! No democrat has won SC since 1976!

If Newt is the nominee expect Obama to run the table and win 40+ states.

Yep. Newt is the worst possible person to run against Obama.

[affa]

I thought Romney was an awful candidate. Then Perry surged, and I couldn't believe someone that terrible could be a frontrunner. Then Cain surged, and I didn't believe it could get any worse. Now Newt is the frontrunner, and I'm completely shocked that such a non-conservative, authoritarian pig could be leading the pack. This has to be rock bottom.... right?

That the media has been able to prop up each of these ridiculously bad options to 'frontrunner' status is why we must recognize our opponent is not any of them, but the media itself. They are effective and efficient at rallying support of the masses... they can sell anything. When Newt falls, they'll prop someone else up, even if they have to recycle Bachman or Perry. Put some headlines up like 'Concerned voters willing to give Perry another chance!' and within a week, you'll have the sheep baaing about how giving someone a second chance is the right thing to do.

We are up against the media, and its owners - the military industrial complex. The decisions up for grabs are worth trillions of dollars to those already in power... and as that implies, they currently have the power to enforce their will. In addition to the money, we're talking about defanging the power elite in DC. This battle is never going to be easy. Even if we sway the majority, we still need to be vigilant about voter fraud and other issues.

I realize some of you are new to this, and scratch your head when Ron Paul is ignored or trivialized, and wonder why the media would treat him so. It's because they're owned by the MIC -- GE, Westinghouse, etc. They make their fortunes from war. I know it's hard to get your head around a world view that is so bleak... it seems hard to accept. Which is why I remind you - trillions of dollars, per year, are at stake. Research media ownership.

It's so disgustingly inbred with the power elite you'll almost wish you never woke up. Just a taste -- Donald Rumsfeld was college roommates with Frank Carlucci. Frank Carlucci was not only on the board of the Carlyle Group, but was chairman of Westinghouse. Westinghouse is a major arms manufacturer, and profits greatly from the wars... and owned CBS during the first Gulf war (GE, another arms manufacturer, is NBC). Since then, some renaming magic has been done, where Westinghouse sold off part of themselves, got renamed CBS, then became Viacom... but this is nothing new. That's just one itsy bitsy connection, only just slightly cracking the surface. These are our enemies, the enemies of anyone who treasures liberty, the enemies of anyone who longs for peace. They have the power, and the money... and they don't want to lose either.

The media circus this election has only one goal -- keep Ron Paul out of the presidency. They'll take anyone except him. They'll certainly gladly take Obama. They'll take Gingrich, or Perry. Romney or Bachman. Santorum, or even the now-defunct Cain. They'd take anyone that would continue the wars. Period.

Keep fighting the good fight. But never trust the media, and never expect them to come around. Get on those phones, and call people, and convince your friends, because in order to win this, we're going to need to win the people over. We need to be spin-proof and out in such great numbers that any media and/or political chicanery is obvious for what it is.

That we are this close to upheaving the power elite is quite simply, amazing. I never thought I'd see it. But here we are. We need to win this, not just for us, not just for our children, but for the world. We are taking part in a epic battle between liberty and tyranny. Thankfully, we're on the right side of this. But it will not be easy.