ABC Drake University Debate (12/10) Official Thread

[Matt Collins]

9pm ABC from Drake University in Iowa. Republican Presidential debate.

Debate to Air Saturday, December 10 in Primetime from 9:00-11:00 PM ET/PT Nationally on the ABC Television Network and Locally on ABC5/WOI-DT


Probable link for live streaming:
http://abcnews.go.com/politics
(http://abcnews.go.com/politics)or
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/abc-news-to-hold-primetime-gop-debate-in-iowa-on-saturday-december-10/


(http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/abc-news-to-hold-primetime-gop-debate-in-iowa-on-saturday-december-10/)

[rp08orbust]

Why now? If this thread has more than 2 pages by the time the debate starts I won't even open it.

[bluesc]

Asshole moderator of the debate means I'll be struggling to watch the thing.

[randomname]

Asshole moderator of the debate means I'll be struggling to watch the thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-ywngi3i-0[

[Tyler_Durden]

9pm ABC from Drake University in Iowa. Republican Presidential debate.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/abc-news-to-hold-primetime-gop-debate-in-iowa-on-saturday-december-10/

Hi. I'm not techno savvy enough to post here. Please look at the profile pic on my FB page for the Blatant Media Bias. Feel free to share the pic and info.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ben-Swann-for-Press-Secretary-2012/242807579112438

Fight the Fight

[freejack]

I will be ecstatic when George Streptococcus is forced to eat his words next year. Whenever I see his face it always reminds me of the disrespectful way he treated Ron in '07.

[Sweman]

I will +rep he/she who starts the unofficial thread.

[harikaried]

The article doesn't mention it, but there'll only be 6 candidates on stage.

Bachmann
Gingrich
Paul
Perry
Romney
Santorum

[Polskash]

The article doesn't mention it, but there'll only be 6 candidates on stage.

Bachmann
Gingrich
Paul
Perry
Romney
Santorum

It's about time too. Good riddance.

[djruden]

It's about time too. Good riddance.

Don't get too excited, Huntsmen will be back for the Fox News debate in Sioux City on the 15th.

[hogsfan90]

Huntsman being on stage can take the edge off of some of the edgier things Ron Paul says like, "be reluctant to go to war" and "talk with Iran". Having another guy like Johnsen or Huntsman up there saying something similar seems to make Ron Paul seem not so out-there and also gives him a smaller share of the heat the media gives. I was relieved during the Foreign Policy debate when Huntsman had Ron Paul's back basically on the torture and war questions

[ZanZibar]

What to watch for tonight:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/12/gop-presidential-debate-preview-iowa-/1

[bluesc]

What to watch for tonight:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/12/gop-presidential-debate-preview-iowa-/1

I wonder if that means that Ron is officially going on the attack tonight.

p.s. I hate George Stephanopoulos.

[Chris_Redfield]

Do you guys think a question will be posed to Ron regarding the "glee" comment?

[Dr.3D]

I always wonder why the "Official" threads don't have the date and time in the first post.

Debate to Air Saturday, December 10 in Primetime from 9:00-11:00 PM ET/PT Nationally on the ABC Television Network and Locally on ABC5/WOI-DT

This makes it much easier to determine when the thread will be relevant.

[KingRobbStark]

Guys, I have an idea...snowballs.

[bluesc]

I always wonder why the "Official" threads don't have the date and time in the first post.


This makes it much easier to determine when the thread will be relevant.

Info on where it will be streaming would be helpful too.

[randomname]

Do you guys think a question will be posed to Ron regarding the "glee" comment?

I think Stephanopoulos is dying to smear Paul ahead of the Iowa caucuses. Unlikely he will pass up the opportunity to twist his words and scold him while asking him a "question" about the glee comment

[bluesc]

I think Stephanopoulos is dying to smear Paul ahead of the Iowa caucuses. Unlikely he will pass up the opportunity to twist his words and scold him while asking him a "question" about the glee comment

Bingo.

[randomname]

he will also be asked the third party question.

[Matt Collins]

I always wonder why the "Official" threads don't have the date and time in the first post.


This makes it much easier to determine when the thread will be relevant.Good point. I have added it due to popular demand :cool:

[Fermli]

this will air on tape delay on the west coast, correct?

[HOLLYWOOD]

Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulos to Moderate from Des Moines, IowaSo the name of this is: Former Clinton administration to control GOP debate.

This is so absurb especially with ABC's Political Director (AMY WALTER) has blacked-out Ron Paul from just about every Sunday of political news, with the exception of last Sunday... what a coincidence on timing to give the fair and balanced coverage once Amy?

Amy Walter
Hotline's Amy Walter says GOP want Supreme Court "fight" for ... racist, affirmative action, communist, Marxist, liberal activism. etc. http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201005090007

Here's ABC's screen shots from this past Sunday's show.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/IOWA_TRENDING.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/up_ron_paul.jpg

[bluesc]

Apparently it will stream here: http://abcnews.go.com/politics

[randomname]

I wonder if they will bait Ron into attacking Gingrich and then ask him if he would support the Republican nominee. Can't pass up the opportunity to paint him as hypocritical and an outsider.

[randomname]

Dupe

[green73]

I like cheese

[HOLLYWOOD]

Pre-debate Intrade:

Romney 47.4%
Gingrich 33.3%
Paul 8.4%
Huntsman 6.7%
No one else above 2%


(https://twitter.com/#%21/JimPethokoukis/status/145629033340747776)

[green73]

twitter hashtag

#IowaDebate (https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23IowaDebate)

[ZanZibar]

Apparently it will stream here: http://abcnews.go.com/politicshttp://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305

[zerosdontcount]

Gotta miss this debate for a tacky sweater party, good luck Dr. Paul!

[bluesc]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305

Thanks! Should be in the OP in official threads :toady:

[mbburch]

I would suspect that Stephanopolous is not a big Gingrich fan given his close ties to the Clinton administration. I would not be surprised to see the moderators try to pick a fight between Gingrich and Paul. Meanwhile Romney, the establishment candidate, can just sit back and give vanilla answers to everything. It's worked well for him so far...

[Matt Collins]

Thanks! Should be in the OP in official threads :toady:Done

[Liber Team]

vote http://timesdelphic.com/2011/12/10/abc-debate-liveblog

[randomname]

Republican presidential hopefuls will square off Saturday night at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. Conversations about the debate are sure to trickle over onto the social web, and ABC News, which is broadcasting and moderating the event, will gauge viewer reactions in real-time by polling them via TV-tagging application IntoNow.

“It’s an exciting opportunity to bring the ability to engage a widespread audience leading up to the presidential [elections],” IntoNow co-founder and Yahoo product manager Adam Cahan told VentureBeat. “This is the first multi-screen debate experience spanning TV, web and mobile devices with the ability to inform, interact and engage audiences.”

IntoNow, a social TV application for iPhone, Android and now iPad, was acquired by Yahoo in April 2011. The application uses patented technology to listen to and “tag” — a.k.a. identity — millions of television and movie titles.

Debate viewers who use the app to tag the ABC News broadcast will be presented with poll questions, related news content, candidate profiles and discussion streams all tailored around the event. ABC News will use the application’s poll feature to query live audiences and gauge reactions to candidates’ debate responses, and then use the collected data to pose follow-up questions.

So you may hear an ABC News moderator say something like, “Candidate X, our live data suggests only 33 percent of Americans agree with your stance on X…,” we’re told.

The news network has been aggressively promoting IntoNow on the air (Yahoo is a sponsor of the event), includeding a prominent mention on flagship show Good Morning America. It will continue to promote the app and its poll questions during the live broadcast.

The Republican debate airs Saturday at 9 p.m. ET on ABC and will be streamed online.

http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/intonow-poll.jpg


So you may hear an ABC News moderator say something like, “Candidate X, our live data suggests only 33 percent of Americans agree with your stance on X…,” we’re told.

Will they use this against Paul?

[wgadget]

So you may hear an ABC News moderator say something like, “Candidate X, our live data suggests only 33 percent of Americans agree with your stance on X…,” we’re told.

Will they use this against Paul?

And surely, they would never LIE about the findings...surely.

[Fermli]

this will air on tape delay on the west coast, correct?

can anyone confirm this for me? thx

[ronpaulitician]

I honestly cannot wait to hear Paul answer the "Glee" topic. First debate that I'm truly excited about. Get 'em, Ron. We're behind you all the way.

[lasenorita]

The news segment earlier seemed to be really pushing for a "Romney vs. Gingrich" debate. Their top political director and analyst (?) basically said they were focusing on both and looking at their body language. The other four may not as well exist, I guess. No mention of Paul or Santorum (?) (although they did mention Perry, Bachmann, Huntsman — even Cain!). Now I wonder if he'll even receive 89 seconds. I guess Dr. Paul placing second/close third ruins their narrative. We'll see …



@randomname

They might. Dr. Paul certainly has a lot of positions that confuse a lot of people who don't understand the liberty platform. But I doubt people watching this debate are all anti-Paul. Maybe there will be a lot of IntoNow app users who dislike Newt, Romney, Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum's positions. *hint hint* Surely they won't use the live data against Paul exclusively? But they probably will; Stephanopoulos will keep a close eye on those charts and probably won't hesitate to bring low numbers up. :rolleyes: :o

//

If you have access to Android Market or the App Store, you can install IntoNow (http://anonym.to/?http://www.intonow.com/ci).

[thehighwaymanq]

We can gauge public opinion by his post-debate donation totals for tonight and tomorrow.

http://paul.depositwiz.com/

[bluesc]

We can gauge public opinion by his post-debate donation totals for tonight and tomorrow.

http://paul.depositwiz.com/

They took down the ticker on debate night? Traffic is going to surge. If the new people saw the ticker they would be encouraged to donate. Ugh.

[lib3rtarian]

Is there a better link where this is streaming other than http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305?tab=9482931&section=6087493 ? The video quality on this is very poor.

[CanadaBoy]

You guys should check out the campaign speech Ron Paul gave @ Drake University in 1988.

http://thefilmarchived.blogspot.com/2010/10/ron-paul-presidential-campaign-speech.html

What if Ron Paul was elected in 88? Let's make sure were not asking the same question about 2012 23 years later.

[ronpaulitician]

You guys should check out the campaign speech Ron Paul gave @ Drake University in 1988.

http://thefilmarchived.blogspot.com/2010/10/ron-paul-presidential-campaign-speech.html

What if Ron Paul was elected in 88? Let's make sure were not asking the same question about 2012 23 years later.
That link didn't work for me, but the youtube version works.
direct video link not working for me right now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLq3yCrhmXw)

[jcarcinogen]

can anyone confirm this for me? thx This is the case here in WA state.

[Oddone]

That link didn't work for me, but the youtube version works.
direct video link not working for me right now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLq3yCrhmXw)

Very good speech! That room would be packed to the brim today.

[lasenorita]

can anyone confirm this for me? thx

Check the TV Guide (http://anonym.to/?http://www.tvguide.com/Listings/) for your location.

[CanadaBoy]

That link didn't work for me, but the youtube version works.
direct video link not working for me right now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLq3yCrhmXw)

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL36RDsArzc

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8jE8I88qPQ

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDTsF6p4K2g

[Corey]

I'm not sure I have the stomach for this. All the pre-debate talk is about Gingrich and Romney, two-man race propaganda. I feel like I literally get sick watching this crap..

[randomname]

Eager for moment when Romney asks Perry to subtract # of Supreme justices from voting age & multiply by Gingrich's marriages. #iowadebate

ha

[Adam West]

I'm not sure I have the stomach for this. All the pre-debate talk is about Gingrich and Romney, two-man race propaganda. I feel like I literally get sick watching this crap..

Haha. Pre-game jitters.

[Adam West]

I find a tall scotch helps me to relax...

[islather]

Is there any other links for live stream. all i can get is a black box where the stream should be....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305

[jcarcinogen]

I'm amped!

[Corey]

I find a tall scotch helps me to relax...

Now there's a good idea!

[wgadget]

Wasn't there supposed to be some pre-debate stuff on at 8:30pm?

[bluesc]

Is there any other links for live stream. all i can get is a black box where the stream should be....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305

At the top of this page: http://news.yahoo.com/elections/debate/

[wgadget]

I find a tall scotch helps me to relax...

You really ARE Batman, aren't you? I know you are. Super-hero who follows a Super-hero. :)

[Adam West]

I love these debate threads. So much tension and then the release.

I'm glad my wife is coming home from work in a couple of hours...

[Oddone]

Started online!

[Adam West]

You really ARE Batman, aren't you? I know you are. Super-hero who follows a Super-hero. :)

I am Ron Pauls "Robin."

[islather]

At the top of this page: http://news.yahoo.com/elections/debate/

Thank You

[GunnyFreedom]

Onlines are covering. Debate coming. Ron Paul gets to break jaws again. :)

[CanadaBoy]

Attention everyone with an Android or Apple device!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?336581-ABC-News-to-poll-Republican-debate-viewers-via-TV-tagging-app-IntoNow

[asurfaholic]

my app isn't recognizing the pre debate stuff....

[Oddone]

my app isn't recognizing the pre debate stuff....

Mine either, using TC or PC? May not work until the debate starts, also keep an eye on the list of on now shows people are watching.

[wgadget]

How long are these idiots gonna ramble on about the two idiots they think are "frontrunners"?

[asurfaholic]

Mine either, using TC or PC? May not work until the debate starts, also keep an eye on the list of on now shows people are watching.

droid app. thats what I figured too, maybe it will recognize the actual debate...

[jsingh1022]

This pre-game show is trying to make it all Newt vs. Mitt. Predictable.

[wgadget]

my app isn't recognizing the pre debate stuff....

You're not missing much, but try this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305

[TomtheTinker]

Im looking for a stream that is smart phone compatible..ty

[wgadget]

This pre-game show is trying to make it all Newt vs. Mitt. Predictable.

I think this is called a STRAW MAN. They set it all up themselves. Contgrats to them. Unfortunately, the American people are onto the scam.

[eric4186]

hmmmm...8 minutes straight of nothing but Romney and Gingrich, no mention of any other candidates. I'm not optimistic about this

[Diashi]

my app isn't recognizing the pre debate stuff....

That pre-debate stuff might only be online while the app is thinking tv only.

[69360]

These pre-debate people are only talking about mittens and the grinch. Wake up Ron is polling as well as mittens.

[Fermli]

This pre-game show is trying to make it a gameshow. Predictable.

FYP

[Sweman]

Talking heads blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah

[Oddone]

HAHAHA.. They just pushed a Romney/Gingrich ticket..

Edit: Romney could give Gingrich adult supervision..

[szczebrzeszyn]

I tried to listen to this pre-debate stuff, but it's so biased, even a polish dude on the other side of the globe can see through it. Who are they kidding? Had to mute this bs.

[wgadget]

I am Ron Pauls "Robin."

Aw, that's so humble of you, Batman. I used to watch you when I was about 8 years old. KA-BAM! POW!

[ronpaulitician]

Live blogs I will follow as I (finally get to) watch the debate.

Guardian (UK) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/11/gop-presidential-debate-iowa-live)
Andrew Sullivan (http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/)

From The Guardian:

8.40pm: The Guardian's Ewen MacAskill has spent the day in Iowa – and went to an election meeting in Des Moines organised by a vetereans group:

Only Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry turned up. Michele Bachmann cancelled just 20 minutes before, maybe wanting to spend the time preparing for the debate or maybe someone told her the event was sparsely attended: she sent her husband Marcus instead.

Having spent three days in Iowa at various election events, there seems to be little enthusiasm for any of the candidates and there did not appear to be much at this event either. I sat next to a WW2 navy guy exasperated with candidates on offer, muttering "God damn" at various points made by Gingrich, Santorum and Perry.

Santorum said he had served ... for eight years on the Senate armed services committee. As Santorum was leaving, the vet blocked the aisle and told him if he wanted bloodshed in Iran, he should put on a uniform and go there.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Those f*ckers have been spewing BS for 15 min and have not mentioned Ron Paul ONCE!

*ssholes.

[69360]

Now Perry? Come on?

[wgadget]

Can I get some CRACKERS to go with that Perry CHEESE?

[tfurrh]

Drinking game: any time Newt says 'candidly' 'damatically' or 'radically'

[ItztehBean]

Perry sounded like Frothy Urine in this ad.

[Agorism]

999 is gone folks. New drinking rules are...

You must drink whenever Newt says profound, fundamental, deep or deeply.

[Diashi]

Ron next to the Grinch :o

[Agorism]

Drinking game: any time Newt says 'candidly' 'damatically' or 'radically'

lol you read my mind.

[Oddone]

Thrust and parry..

[matt0611]

I tried to listen to this pre-debate stuff, but it's so biased, even a polish dude on the other side of the globe can see through it. Who are they kidding? Had to mute this bs.

We have almost soviet style media propaganda here in the US. If you want information you need to go to the internet.

[wgadget]

Now Perry? Come on?

But at least they're LAUGHING at him.

[PursuePeace]

GO RON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


had to get out some nervous energy.
sorry.

[Oddone]

Moves the party towards Economical issues? Hmm Ron Paul?

[Hospitaller]

The pre-debate talking heads really disgust me, its so fake and forced, the opinions cited are so obviously not thier own. They are rehearsed and aimed at shaping MY opinion? How about i have a brain of my own and am able to analyse events independantly.

I actually feel physically disgusted listening ot them

[StateofTrance]

ROOOONNN POLLLLLL

[pauliticalfan]

Here we go!

[wgadget]

The vicarious nervousness is overwhelming.

GO RON!!!

[matt0611]

I don't see what's so bad about Perry's ad IMO, isn't he just saying that its ridiculous that we've let gays serve openly in our military yet something harmless as saying merry christmas is now looked at as offensive?

Sounds reasonable to me.

Not that this is the most important issue to me, but I see his point.

[jsingh1022]

"Rick Perry started this race as the economic candidate." These commentators make me wants to puke.

[wgadget]

Let's TWEET THEM TO DEATH.

[Bruno]

No One But Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[RPSupporter305]

are there any lower quality streams on justin.tv or similar?

[wgadget]

I don't see what's so bad about Perry's ad IMO, isn't he just saying that its ridiculous that we've let gays serve openly in our military yet something harmless as saying merry christmas is now looked at as offensive?

Sounds reasonable to me.

Not that this is the most important issue to me, but I see his point.

Just cheesy.

[Diashi]

My app just picked up the debate.

[Lets_Race]

I don't see what's so bad about Perry's ad IMO, isn't he just saying that its ridiculous that we've let gays serve openly in our military yet something harmless as saying merry christmas is now looked at as offensive?

Sounds reasonable to me.

Not that this is the most important issue to me, but I see his point.

It implies that homosexuality is not only offensive, but moreso than religion.

[69360]

I just watched 15 minutes of these fools talking out their asses and never mentioned Ron

[pauliticalfan]

"The radicals have been in charge way too long."

[Bruno]

Wow, great clip of Ron there!

[Lafayette]

"The radicals have been in charge way too long."

YES!

[Polskash]

Intro sequence of candidates was The Grinch, Mittens, Perry, Bachmann, Ron, Santorum. Such subtle propaganda.

[LibertyEsq]

I hope we have a LOT of supporters in that debate audience. We'll need it

[StateofTrance]

Showing Ron at the bottom of the list before Santorum. Sigh.

[hammy]

George Douchebag

[Birdlady]

Here we go! I wonder how much this will raise my blood pressure. lol

[asurfaholic]

my app picked it up, first question " what do you want to hear about?"

[unknown]

Where is he!?!?!

[unknown]

There he is!!!!!

[Bruno]

What a stuffy opening! No applause, and the candidates are already up there! I bet they said strictly no cheering!

[Fermli]

lol applause for Paul. YES YES!

[StateofTrance]

LOL claps for Ron :D

[pauliticalfan]

Ron Paul got the most applause.

[Oddone]

Haha hear the cheer for Ron Paul?

[Bruno]

Shit! She looked around like, "We told you not to clap!"

[Adam West]

I've run out of scotch. Going to fix myself a vodka.

This could get dangerous!

[unknown]

George better be fair. Seriously.

[Patrick Henry]

Sawyer? oh my

[Fermli]

lol democracy

[Polskash]

WTF is this propaganda?

[Bruno]

Ron looks fully rested and ready to drop some truth bombs.

[LibertyEsq]

I'm already about to puke

[hammy]

George better be fair. Seriously.

Don't hold your breath

[bunklocoempire]

blah, blah, blah Constitution in a Republic or STFU

[BIG_J]

Uh Oh Adam... Switching liqours..watch out!
:)

[Lafayette]

I can ever watch these things, ill just follow along in this thread like always.

[Liberty4life]

The audience almost exploded with applause for Ron Paul after she introduced him, when she went on to Michelle it was immediately stopped, she had a forced grin as did the moderator, looking around to the audience.

[slamhead]

First poll on into_now excludes everyone exceptnewt and romney.

[Tina]

What a stuffy opening! No applause, and the candidates are already up there! I bet they said strictly no cheering!

There was applause for Paul that was quickly stopped. So, they are controlling the audience response?

[Bruno]

Distingreshing

[Sweman]

are there any lower quality streams on justin.tv or similar?Try and right click the video and select low quality.

[Bruno]

There was applause for Paul that was quickly stopped. So, they are controlling the audience response.

Literally sounded like the cut the audio down on Ron's claps.

[HOLLYWOOD]

You Think there's enough 2012 ABC NEWS signs banners around the walls?

[ronpaulitician]

Already yelling at the TV. "I don't care about salutes. Ask a funning question!"

[unknown]

I hate Newt so much, Im thinking of skipping this. Maybe just watch the RP highlights.

[jsingh1022]

I see they give Newt a solid 5 minutes to speak to kick off

[Polskash]

Perry goes after Romney.

[bluesc]

There was applause for Paul that was quickly stopped. So, they are controlling the audience response.

Yep. Mute applause, turn it up for the booing.

[svobody]

Great... setting up ron perfectly here to talk about CUTTING SPENDING. something neither newt or mitt have touched

[Sweman]

Nice tan, Mitt.

[Bruno]

Perry goes after Romney.

No, they will do it in the order of the polls...er...wait, they already fucked that up.

[bunklocoempire]

someone quick remind me, was Santorum from a working class family or.....

[Diashi]

The app's polling isn't working now...

[Patrick Henry]

Romney looks like a pumpkin

[hammy]

DOMINANT

[ronpaulitician]

Good sign. "Gingrich, Romney, Paul."

I have a feeling ABC is going to try to allot time based on standing in polls. Paul should get 15 minutes or so.

[Feelgood]

Romney's spray tan is looking good tonight! :)

http://www.munidiaries.com/wp-content/uploads/3303/oompa1.jpg

[jsingh1022]

Ron Paul just won the entire debate with that answer. He just showed his intelligence over Romney and Gingrich. LOVE IT

[Diashi]

Meh answer. Not bad.

[thehighwaymanq]

Great answer from Newt for the average American. Again, Ron Paul is too smart for his own good and needs to dumb down his "malinvestment" speech.

[pauliticalfan]

Nice. Why won't they focus the camera on him WTF.

[ronpaulitician]

I like. Go, Ron.

[CanadaBoy]

Wow what an amazing response by Ron!

[bluesc]

Good answer Ron. They muted his applause :p

[libertyfanatic]

God this woman is annoying

[StateofTrance]

Bitch was looking for a number.

[PastaRocket848]

Great answer!

[LibertyEsq]

wtf camera angle

[Feelgood]

Perry: 20/20/20

[szczebrzeszyn]

And again I switched back to the forums. I think I prefer your comments than actual video stream. It's way funnier :)

[Patrick Henry]

That was good, and he generally gets better as the night goes on.

[Bruno]

Perry shout out to Ron!

[kylejack]

No Perry, you can't have our populism.

[PatriotOne]

Looks like RP owns the crowd :-)

Drake University is buzzing with activity 30 minutes before the ABC News/Des Moines Register debate kicks off.http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/10/drake-university-buzzing-before-debate/

Young aides race between buildings minus coats. Top party officials clink wine glasses in the jazz center and nibble on hors d’oeuvres.

The university’s men’s basketball team, which advanced to the NCAA tournament in 2008, passes through the media filing center housed in their home arena.

The 5,000-student private university, located just west of downtown Des Moines, has done this before. Drake hosted Republican and Democratic debates in 2007.

The campus has taken on the atmosphere of a sporting event, as pundits predict a boxing match featuring Newt Gingrich as the punching bag.

Limited seating left Will Johnson, 47, outside of Sheslow Auditorium, which holds 680, begging for a way in.

“Hey, anybody have an extra ticket?” he asks to passing glances.

“I guess it doesn’t matter who we want to be president; it’ll be whoever promises (to make) Ron Paul treasury secretary,” Johnson continues, an Iowa Hawkeyes stocking cap atop his head.

His one-liner predicts the entire primary season is a futile exercise. He brings smiles to young men in suits hustling into a security tent outside the front doors.

Johnson is but one member of the Ron Paul Nation to show up in an attempt to will their candidate to victory. Dozens of hardy Republicans brave the 30-degree weather and line an ice-slicked University Avenue. They hold signs supporting their candidate of choice. Only Ron Paul’s crew exudes true passion.

“So who’s going to win the GOP race in Iowa?” the ring-leader yells.

“Ron Paul!” the crowd responds.

The sound of drums leads to an Occupy Wall Street throng down the block marching in counter-protest. As they prepare to pass in front of the Republicans, a young woman barks out instructions.

“Single-file through the Ron Paul supporters. There’s room for everyone.”

As they scoot past, a dissonant chorus of free speech explodes. The occupy crowd shouts “We are the 99 percent,” into the faces of Republicans determined to match the volume with a chant of their own: “End the fed.”

[milo10]

Idiot. She sounded disappointed that she didn't get an exact number. WTF???

[pauliticalfan]

Perry backs up Ron. Response time!?

[matt0611]

I hate Romney's expression while anyone else is answering. I can't explain why. Its just his smugness.

[RPSupporter305]

Any lower quality streams? I have slow internet :(

[bunklocoempire]

perry experiencing a glitch? get a tech!

[eric4186]

lol Rick Perry. Washington DC isn't in California and wall street isn't in Florida

[Bruno]

That was good, and he generally gets better as the night goes on.

I completely agree he does.

[cornell]

Ron Paul gave his typical answer - BUT IT SOUNDED SO MUCH BETTER TONIGHT!!!!

He explained it, took his time, and didn't get ahead of his words.

[jsingh1022]

I love how Rick Perry addresses himself in 3rd person

[kmalm585]

How can you possibly come up with a number for how many jobs you plan to create? It doesn't make sense to me, at all.

[ChiefJustice]

Great answer from Newt for the average American. Again, Ron Paul is too smart for his own good and needs to dumb down his "malinvestment" speech.
Exactly. Newt sounded best out of the three to the average American. Ron is correct more so than the others but its too complicated for voters to grasp unfortunately.

[thehighwaymanq]

Haha is Perry trying to pander to OWS?

Why does he refer to himself in the 3rd person?

[pauliticalfan]

Bachmann pandering to Cain supporters.

[WD-NY]

Perry's been getting better at co-opting lots of Ron's best talking points and dumbing them down to the average american. Hopefully viewers don't fall for it..

[Polskash]

Guys...they're going to push Perry to replace Gingrich.

[bluesc]

Perry has his talking points out - Outsider, anti-banker populist.

[ronpaulfollower999]

Win-Win-Win?

lol…these people are nuts.

[libertyfanatic]

Bachmann reaching out to the Cain supporters

[ZanZibar]

999

[PierzStyx]

Bitch was looking for a number.

And she got one! $1,000,000,000!

[StateofTrance]

Bachfuck keeps on saying "former Tax Attorney" and "Obamacare" what a troller

[Matthew Zak]

I can't stand Newt. He's acting as if he's got this thing in the bag. He looks like a potato that's been punched in the face and is wearing a wig.

The moderators are totally unbearable.

I'll be reading this thread.

[CanadaBoy]

Win win win plan? lol Bachman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtl2ZuJpG9M

[Patrick Henry]

You can't.
How can you possibly come up with a number for how many jobs you plan to create? It doesn't make sense to me, at all.

[jkob]

WOOOOO RAISE TAXES ON THE POOR

what a plan Bachman

here's my response NO NO NO

[Tina]

Yep. Mute applause, turn it up for the booing.


Yeah, they've used that trick a few times already. :mad:

[hammy]

Will we ever escape 999?

[randomname]

I hate Romney's expression while anyone else is answering. I can't explain why. Its just his smugness.

Botox

[Oddone]

Hahaha.. So she is the new Cain?

[Agorism]

Haha is Perry trying to pander to OWS?

Why does he refer to himself in the 3rd person?

Picked it up from Cain.

[tfurrh]

Michele Bachmann #winningwinningwinning

[svobody]

WIN WIN WIN PLAN! WIN! WINNING IS GOOD

[cindy25]

Irs agent Bachmann just promised to raise taxes on 40% of the people.

calling Grover!!

[Patrick Henry]

lol. I sure hope so.
Will we ever escape 999?

[PierzStyx]

Ugh. Santorum. I'd almost rather see santorum than see Santorum.

[Feelgood]

Bachmann is a joke/joke/joke

[pauliticalfan]

Notice how they didn't focus the camera on Ron Paul completely during his answer.

[mport1]

Ron Paul gave his typical answer - BUT IT SOUNDED SO MUCH BETTER TONIGHT!!!!

He explained it, took his time, and didn't get ahead of his words.

Yes, he actually slowed down. Hopefully that is a sign of things to come.

[bunklocoempire]

Irs agent Bachmann just promised to raise taxes on 40% of the people.

calling Grover!!

Lol! Word up!

[libertyfanatic]

This woman needs to go

[Endthefednow]

What did Ron Say? just don`t understand I like the crazy lady ;)

[pauliticalfan]

ABC pampering Romney.

[wd4freedom]

Exactly. Newt sounded best out of the three to the average American. Ron is correct more so than the others but its too complicated for voters to grasp unfortunately.
Average Americans typically do not watch these primary debates.

[milo10]

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! She won't stop with the number! :mad:

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Get over it, Diane! Move on!

[PursuePeace]

stream went down gahhhhh!

[Original_Intent]

Props to Santorum for a correct answer

[ronpaulfollower999]

lol…Frothy actually shot her down.

[jkob]

Dianne Sawyer, ugh

just terrible

[eric4186]

wow I actually agreed with Santorum on something. screw that annoying lady and her "gimmie a number!". Never thought i'd say this but well said Santorum

[matt0611]

Thank you Santorum, good smack her down.

[StateofTrance]

Yes, he actually slowed down. Hopefully that is a sign of things to come.

Totally agree. His slowed down approach sounds perfecto!

[pauliticalfan]

This moderator is not good.

[Diashi]

This whole app is dead. Can anyone else get it working?

[Xelaetaks]

Terrible hosts

[JCF]

Thank you, Santorum.

[Deinonychus]

This whole app is dead. Can anyone else get it working?

App keeps "loading people" for me.

[Jack Bauer]

Diane looks constipated.

[hammy]

YEAhoo stream:

http://news.yahoo.com/elections/debate/

[Polskash]

Did Rick Santorum say "government bean counter"? hah

[WD-NY]

Jesus. pick up the pace Sawyer... we don't care what you think

[StateofTrance]

This whole app is dead. Can anyone else get it working?

Dead for me as well. Can't sign in!

[ChiefJustice]

I missed it. What did Santorum say in response to Sawyer?

[Feelgood]

Here is a number for you Sawyer, ONE!!!

http://www.dreamstime.com/middle-finger-thumb9865954.jpg

[cpike]

The longer Santorum stays in these debates the better, outside of foreign policy he can only help Ron.

[bunklocoempire]

whoa, with the choppy streaming Bachmann had some 'Predator hair' goin' there...

[kylejack]

Bachmann wants to raise our taxes.

By the way, Bachmann, payroll taxes DO NOT go into the so-called Social Security trust fund, they are spent as general revenue.

[HOLLYWOOD]

I thought ROMNEY was a Socialist Pinko? Why does he look so Orange?

[cindy25]

Bachmann wants to raise the payroll tax; typical IRS agent

[Bruno]

Props to Santorum for a correct answer

Agreed, and does not look good for Mitt who promises something you can't guarantee.

[bluesc]

Ron smiling. He is ready.

[Patrick Henry]

predator hair. lol
whoa, with the choppy streaming Bachmann had some 'Predator hair' goin' there...

[Polskash]

Everyone is looking unusually strong tonight.

[Jack Bauer]

Bachmann's Pandethon: Cain supporters, Social security beneficiaries.

[Feelgood]

Wow Sawyer sounds like she is so damn monotone. Im falling asleep listening to her.

[hammy]

Ron smiling. He is ready.

When Ron smiles it's game over. He's ready tonight.