Richest family on the planet (21 trillion) behind Americans Elect push

[Agorism]

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/12/06/lady-lynn-forester-de-rothschild-jon-huntsman-americans-elect-and-no-labels-the-connections



“A not-for-profit organization, called Americans Elect is establishing ballot access in all 50 states for the candidates for president and vice president in 2012 who will be nominated directly by the people in an online nominating process. The sophisticated website of Americans Elect allows registered voters a revolutionary new way to nominate a bipartisan ticket to occupy the White House.” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, December 5 2011

“Americans Elect is the real deal….I hope all will go to AmericansElect.org and sign us as a delegate….it is free and it is freedom.” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, November 12 2011

“I sit on the Leadership Board for Americans Elect” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, December 5 2011

“Board of Advisors: Lynn Forester de Rothschild” — Americans Elect, July 26 2011

“As for the missing middle, next year will see an innovation. In June 2012, well before the Republican convention in Florida and the Democratic convention in North Carolina, an organisation calling itself “Americans Elect” will hold an online nominating convention of its own. Its plan is not to create a third party but to use the internet to choose a presidential candidate from any party (who will in turn have to pick a running-mate from a different one) and put this non-partisan ticket on the ballot in every state. The outfit has already collected more than 2m of 3m or so signatures it will need to satisfy every state’s ballot requirements.” — The Economist, December 3 2011

““Just for this week, indulge in a fantasy,” writes The Economist. “Everything you think you know about next year’s presidential election in America might be wrong.” — Americans Elect, December 2 2011

“Lady de Rothschild is a director of The Economist Newspaper Limited” — Forbes business profile

“Since June 2002, Lady de Rothschild has been the Chief Executive of E.L. Rothschild LLC, a private investment company with investments in media, information technology, agriculture and real estate. Holdings include The Economist Group” — Bloomberg Link

Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman identified as one of Americans Elect’s Top 4 “National Matches” with public opinion following opaque methodology — November 14 2011

“Huntsman is the Only Electable Republican” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, December 3 2011

“@JonHuntsman only candidate to seriously consider financial reform and other hard issues RT @Timodc #Q4Jon trending worldwide. Cool stuff!” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, November 29 2011

“As the dust settles, people are finally realizing Jon Huntsman is the only electable GOP candidate.” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, November 8 2011

“I still believe we can get America back to its manufacturing glory, @JonHuntsman shows how” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, November 8 2011

“@JonHuntsman @Jon2012girls picking up steam, will be the only one standing at the end of day watch him on @meetthepress on Sunday” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, November 4 2011

“I voted for Jon Huntsman in the #POLITICOprimary” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, October 10 2011

“Vote for Jon Huntsman, the only pragmatic candidate running for President in 2012!” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, October 10 2011

“$1057 to Jon Huntsman for President Inc” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, June 29 2011

“Jon M. Huntsman Jr. opened his day on Tuesday by formally declaring his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination. He closed it by accomplishing an equally important task: collecting $1.2 million for his campaign. A dinner in Manhattan, hosted by Lynn Forester de Rothschild, was the venue to kickoff Mr. Huntsman’s fund-raising effort.” — New York Times, June 22 2011

“$5000 to HPAC” [Jon Huntsman leadership committee] — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, June 16 2011

“$0″ — contributions to any other political candidate by Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, 2011

“Many other bipartisan organizations have emerged over the past three years to give support and strength to any qualified independent candidate. No Labels is a political organization of Republicans, Democrats and Independents working on the grassroots level to support bipartisan and pragmatic politicians and polices. The group has 180,000 members and on December 13th is holding an open meeting at the Capital to unveil a comprehensive congressional action plan. Howard Schultz, the CEO of Starbucks, is leading a movement of business leaders and political donors to end the hyper-partisanship in Washington that could be the bedrock of financing for a viable independent, bipartisan, ticket for 2012.” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, December 5 2011

“…a fantastic presentation given by No Labels and the Comeback America Initiative… — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, October 5 2011

“No labels, just wealth and power. There is strong speculation that Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, married to Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, head of the richest family on the planet ($21 trillion, former head of NM Rothschild & Sons, the Rothschild bank, and one time director at diamond industry monopolist De Beers), is behind the ‘No Labels’ campaign.” — Thom Hartmann message boards, January 16 2011

[No comment] — No Labels, which has not released the names of its funders.

[TER]

Uh, oh. :toady:

[Miss Annie]

Somebody better have the tartar sauce, because I think I am smelling a moby dick! :eek:

[kylejack]

It's certainly a whale of a tale.

[Ashhhhh]

I like Huntsman. At least shes not pushing Newt

[speciallyblend]

nothing stopping us from taking the delegates in this, sign up or we do not have anything to complain about. NO ONE BUT PAUL

[squarepusher]

this is scary "o

[Bruno]

Huntmann has a secret Trillionaire? :eek: ;) :toady:

[TER]

No so secret anymorz

[RDM]

It's all smoke and mirrors from the "shadow government".

[WarNoMore]

Didn't one of the rockefellers say that fox news has gotten out of control? It seems they want to synthesize the two divided sides that they were largely responsible for dividing. Hence support for a more moderate puppet like Huntsman and the formation of this 3rd party platform.

[fred584]

“I sit on the Leadership Board for Americans Elect” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, December 5 2011

These fuckers are infiltrating everything. We need a few people from our military to take these bastards out. They are the cause of all the problems in the world

IF you look into the central banking system in the middle east, every country we are at war with is not in their system. Or wasn't before we attacked them

This is voter fraud on a galactic level. Look out people the empire is striking back.

I knew there was a reason I didn't like huntsman he is an ex Ambassador to china this all makes sense now

Henry Kissenger stated that china was the model for the NWO

[SkarnkaiLW]

So. Do we get a transforming battle mecha at this stage? Cause... we might need it.

[RDM]

Ok. Here ya go. List of advisors behind this scam. Just kind of ignore ALL the CFR members on this list.

Americans Elect Board of Advisors, July 27 2011

Peter Ackerman (Americans Elect: Chairman, Board of Directors, Officer, Delegate, Donor. Unity08: Board of Directors, Chair of Advisory Council, Chair of Rules Committee, Donor)
Co-Founder and Co-Owner, Fresh Direct
Controlling Interest, Crown Emak
Founder and Managing Partner, Rockport Capital
Director, Council on Foreign Relations
Former Director, Cato Institute
Seven photos in Washington Life Magazine
Father of Elliot Ackerman
Contributor to Democrats for Education Reform PAC (2007)

Elliot L. Ackerman (Officer, Delegate)
Chief Operations Officer, Americans Elect
Former Marine Corps Officer and veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan
Son of Peter Ackerman

Jacqueline Adams (Unity08: Advisory Council, Donor)
Senior Counselor, Burson-Marteller corporate public relations
Chief External Relations Officer and Executive Editor of Africa.com;
Former Correspondent, CBS News
One photo in Washington Life Magazine
One photo in New York Social Diary

David Albertson
President, Albertson International, Inc. (agribusiness, venture capital and real estate investment)
Founder, Orlando Magic Basketball Franchise
Trustee, Carroll McKenney Foundation for Public Media
Contributor to Adam Smith Political Action Committee (2000), DNC Services Corporation (2000), Republican Leadership Council Federal PAC (2005) and Majority in Congress PAC (2005)

Judy Albertson
President, Judy Albertson Art Consultants, LLC

Kellen Arno (Americans Elect: National Field Director, Paid for Ballot Access Services)
Vice President, Arno Political Consultants

Michael Arno (Americans Elect: Ballot Access Advisor Paid for Ballot Access Services)
President, Arno Political Consultants
Contributor to National Republican Congressional Committee (1999)

F. Christopher Arterton
Director of the Institute for Politics, Democracy and the Internet, George Washington University
Contributor to Reuniting Our Country PAC, Joseph Lieberman leadership PAC (2002)
Contributor to Friends of Joe Lieberman (2006)

Daren Bascome (Americans Elect: Hired Consultant)
Managing Director, Proverb Ltd.

Gerald W. Blakeley Jr.
President, Blakeley Investment Company
Chairman, Morehouse School of Medicine
One article, New York Social Diary
Contributor, Republican Leadership Council Federal PAC (2006), Massachusetts Republican State Congressional Committee (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006), National Republican Senatorial Committee (2004, 2009)

Stephen W. Bosworth
Dean, The Fletcher School, Tufts University
Member, Council on Foreign Relations

Arturo Brillembourg (Unity08: Donor)
President, Farmington Asset Management hedge fund
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
2 articles and 18 photos in Washington Life Magazine
6 articles in New York Social Diary
Contributor, Libertarian National Committee (2000, 2004)

Hilda Ochoa Brillembourg (Unity08: Donor)
President and CEO, Strategic Investment Group hedge fund and private equity group
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
2 articles and 30 photos in Washington Life Magazine
11 articles in New York Social Diary
Contributor, DNC Services Corporation (2000)

John H. Burbank III
Founder, Managing Member and Chief Investment Officer of Passport Capital hedge fund
Contributor, Freedom and Prosperity PAC (2010), Prosperity PAC (2010), Every Republican is Crucial PAC (2010), National Republican Senatorial Committee (2010) and National Republican Congressional Committee (2010)

Kahlil Byrd
Chief Executive Officer, Americans Elect
Founder and chief, Sung Media Ventures
Former Communications Director, Democratic candidate for Governor of Massachusetts Deval Patrick
Former Communications Director, Republican candidate for U.S. Senate Jeff Beatty
Former fellow, Council on Foreign Relations

Roger Craver (Unity08: Founders Council, Donor)
Founder, The Hotline
Founder, Craver, Mathews, Smith and Company fundraising firm
One photo in Washington Life Magazine
Contributor, DNC Services Corporation (2004)

W. Bowman Cutter (Unity08: Donor)
Senior Fellow and Director of Economic Policy Initiative, Roosevelt Institute
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Executive Committee, Committee for Economic Development
Former Director, Warburg Pincus Venture Capital
Managing Director, The Cedars Capital Partners
Chairman of the Board, MicroVest Capital-Mobilizing Intermediary
Senior Adviser, The Podesta Group lobbying and public relations firm
Contributor, National Venture Capital Association (2003,2004,2005), Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (2000, 2002, 2004, 2006), Independence Party Federal Committee (1998), DNC Services Corporation (1997, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2011), Carolyn’s PAC (2000), Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (2006,2008), HILL PAC (2005, 2006), Effective Government Commmittee (2002), National Leadership PAC (2000, 2007), Democratic Executive Committee of Florida (2008), Georgia Federal Elections Committee (2008), Indiana Democratic Congressional Victory Committee (2008), Michigan Democratic State Central Committee (2008), North Carolina Democratic Party Federal Committee (2008)

Larry Diamond
Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution and Freeman Spogli Institute, Stanford University
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Contributor, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (2006), Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (2006), DNC Services Corporation (2004)

Wendy Drake (Americans Elect Chief Leadership Officer)
President, The Webster Group organizational fundraising and administration firm

Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild
CEO, E.L. Rothschild private investment firm
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Fundraising host, Jon Huntsman for President
Director, The Economist
6 articles, New York Social Diary
Contributor, New Leadership for America PAC (2003), Patriot First PAC (2010), Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (2004), HILL PAC (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009), New York State Democratic Committee (2006), Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (2004, 2006), America Coming Together (2004), ARTS PAC (2004) and Republican National Committee (2008)

Les Francis
Principal/Senior Advisor, Washington Media Group corporate public relations firm
Former Executive Director, Democratic National Committee and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
Contributor, America’s Opportunity Fund (2008), Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (2010)

Carla Hills
Chairman & CEO, Hills & Company corporate advocacy firm on international trade
Former U.S. Trade Representative
Director, Council on Foreign Relations
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
2 articles and 2 photos in Washington Life Magazine
Contributor, Republican Party of Florida (2002, 2008)

Roderick M. Hills
Principal, Hills & Company corporate advocacy firm on international trade
Partner, Hills, Stern & Morley, LLP private equity and investment law firm
Executive Committee, Committee for Economic Development
Former Chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
Former Chairman and CEO of Peabody Coal mining corporation
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
Two photos in Washington Life Magazine
Contributor, Republican National State Elections Committee (2001), DC Republican Committee Federal Committee (2002, 2009, 2010, 2011), Republican Party of Florida (1998, 2002), Promoting Our Republican Team PAC (2011), National Republican Senatorial Committee (2003, 2005), Republican National Committee (1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002), Straight Talk America (2006), Freedom First PAC (2010)

Irvine O. Hockaday Jr.
Retired President and Chief Executive Officer, Hallmark Cards
Director, Crown Media Holdings
One article in New York Social Diary
Contributor, Hallmark Cards PAC, Democratic Leaders Victory Fund (1999)

Philip K. Howard
Partner, Covington & Burling corporate law firm, specializing in mergers and acquisitions
Author: The Death of Common Sense: How Law is Suffocating America, book arguing against “regulatory excess”
Chair, Common Good 501c3 corporation advocating deregulation
6 articles, New York Social Diary
Contributor, National Leadership PAC (1998), Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (2005, 2008), Senate Majority Fund (2008), Forward Together PAC (2006), Straight Talk America (2005), Making Business Excel Political Action Committee (2005) and Covington and Burling LLP PAC (2010)

Jim Jonas (Americans Elect: Administrator. Unity08: President and CEO)
Founding Partner, Category One Partners

Dale E. Jones
Vice Chairman, Heidrick & Struggles executive search and corporate consulting firm
Board of Directors, Kohl’s and Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company
One article in Washington Life Magazine
Contributor, Georgia Republican Party (2000), DNC Services Corporation (2008)

David King
Lecturer in public policy, John F. Kennedy School of Government
Senior Advisor, PCT Government Relations lobbying firm

W. David Lawson IV
Managing Director, JP Morgan Chase & Co. Investment Bank
Member, Economic Club of Washington, DC
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
Four articles in Washington Life Magazine

Joshua S. Levine (Americans Elect: President, Chief Technology Officer, Board of Directors)
former Chief Technology and Operations Officer of E*TRADE
One article in New York Social Diary

Dr. Aaron Lobel
Founder and President, America Abroad Media
Member, Council on Foreign Relations

Lee Lowenstein (Unity08: Donor)
Managing Director, Lionstone Capital Management firm for private wealth investment
One article in New York Social Diary

Sarah Malm (Americans Elect: Chief Communications Officer)
Former Managing Director, Public Strategies, Inc.

Will Marshall
President, Progressive Policy Institute
Founder, Democratic Leadership Council
Member, Committee for the Liberation of Iraq
Board of Advisors, Truman National Security Project
Signatory, Project for the New American Century
Citizen Leader, No Labels

Rafael Mayer (Unity08: donor)
Managing Partner, Khronos LLC hedge fund management firm
One photo in New York Social Diary

Mark McKinnon
President, Maverick Media
Global Vice Chair, Hill and Knowlton Public Relations corporation
CoFounder, No Labels
Former Advisor to President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain
Supporter, Jon Huntsman for President

Morton H. Meyerson
Chairman, Alsbridge outsourcing corporation
Former Chairman and CEO of Perot Systems
Former President and Vice President of Electronic Data Systems
Founder and Partner, E2M Partners real estate investment firm
CEO and Chairman, 2M Companies private wealth investment firm
Director, CebaTech
Director, ChaCha Search
Director, Koll Development Company real estate investment firm

Michael R. Nelson
Visiting Professor, Communications, Culture and Technology, Georgetown University

Ainsley Perrien (Americans Elect: Press Secretary)
Former Deputy Media Practice Chair, Burson-Marsteller

Gerald Rafshoon (Unity08: CoFounder, Donor)
Founder, Gerald Rafshoon Productions
Former White House Communications Director for President Jimmy Carter
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
One photo in Washington Life Magazine
4 articles in New York Social Diary

Nancy E. Roman
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
President, G7 Group corporate political analysis firm

Kirk T. Rostron (Americans Elect: Donor)
Managing Partner, The Mount Vernon Group
Two photos in Washington Life Magazine

Richard Salomon
Managing Director, East End Advisors
Director, Boston Properties
Advisor to David Rockefeller
Director, Council on Foreign Relations
Former Chair, Advisory Board of Blackstone Capital Management
3 articles in New York Social Diary

Tom Sansonetti
Partner, Holland & Hart Lobbying Agency
Lobbyist, Harrah’s Casinos
Lobbyist, Oneida Nation Casinos
Lobbyist, Peabody Energy coal mining corporation
Former General Counsel, Republican National Committee, Committeeman, Wyoming Republican Party and Chair, Wyoming Republican Party
Contributor to the presidential campaign of Mitt Romney, 2008

Douglas Schoen
Douglas E Schoen LLC
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Commentator, FOX News
Pollster, No Labels
Pollster, Michael Bloomberg campaigns
One article in Washington Life Magazine
2 articles in New York Social Diary

Tom Serres
CEO, Piryx, Inc.

Nick Troiano (Americans Elect: Employee. Unity08: Employee)
Student, Georgetown University

George Vradenburg
President, Vradenburg Foundation
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Member, Economic Club of Washington, DC
Member, Greater Washington Board of Trade
Member, Private Sector Senior Advisory Committee, Homeland Security Advisory Council
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
11 articles and 46 photos in Washington Life Magazine
2 articles in New York Social Diary

Lynda C. Webster
Chairman and CEO, The Webster Group organizational fundraising and administration firm
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
6 articles and 6 photos, Washington Life Magazine

William H. Webster
Former director, Federal Bureau of Investigation and Central Intelligence Agency
Chairman, Homeland Security Advisory Council
Retired Partner, Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Washington Life 2011 DC Social List
1 article and 10 photos in Washington Life Magazine
2 articles in New York Social Diary
Addendum: At the beginning of September 2011, Americans Elect listed the following additional “Leadership” on its website, without specifying their titles:

Melvin Andrews
Americans Elect donor
Founder and President of Lakeside Capital Partners

Gary Krisel
Former President, Walt Disney Animation
Executive of Lionel SDG Investments

Dale Mathias
Unity08 Advisory Council Member
Unity08 Donor through husband Edward J. Mathias (of the Carlyle Group, T. Rowe Price, Council on Foreign Relations and GOP Marketplace)
Founder and/or officer of four private equity funds
Member of Council on Foreign Relations
Appears in 6 articles of the DC Beltway social circle magazine Washington Life.

Mark Palmer
Unity08 Donor
Former Ambassador
Former Vice President of Enron for Public Relations
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
President, Capital Development Company LLC
Founder and Co-Owner, Central European Media Enterprises
Council Member, pro-military Center for a New American Security
Vice Chair of Freedom House organization under Chairman Peter Ackerman, the founder and Chairman of Americans Elect.

Peter Alan Rinfret
Chairman and CEO, Iris Wireless
President of Rinfret & Company and Rinfret Associates IPO, capital campaign and asset management corporation
Co-Chair, National Finance Committee for John McCain Campaign
Advisor to Republican members of Congress Orrin Hatch and Bill Archer
Addendum: At the end of October 2011, Americans Elect listed the following additional “Leadership” on its website, not specifying most of their leadership positions within Americans Elect:

Denis A. Cortese, M.D.
Foundation Professor, Arizona State University and Director of the ASU Healthcare Delivery and Policy Program; Emeritus President and CEO, Mayo Clinic

Eliot R. Cutler
Chairman, OneMaine, Political Action Committee to “to strengthen Maine’s political center.”
Candidate for Governor of Maine, 2010

Charles H. Dallara
Managing Director, Institute of International Finance, “an association of over 340 global financial institutions.”
Member, Council on Foreign Relations

Jessica Einhorn
Dean of School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
20-year career as executive at World Bank

Mark Erwin
Former United States Ambassador to Mauritius
Former Director, Overseas Private Investment Corporation
President, Erwin Capital, Incorporated
Board of Directors, New Dominion Bank

Brian M. Findlay
Policy Director, Americans Elect

Bertil Lundqvist
General Counsel and Executive Vice President, Starr Insurance, Financial Services and Holding Company, specializing in corporate transactions, mergers and acquisitions
Member, Council on Foreign Relations
Council member, Brookings Institution

Cara Brown McCormick
Smart Campaigns (Americans Elect contractor for undisclosed services)

Jordan H. Rednor
President, Rednor Group Ltd. merchant banking firm
Partner, The Mentor Fund investment fund
Chairman, Mr Youth social media marketing company
Partner, Protagonist Advertising Agency
Director, EMAK firm owned by Americans Elect Chairman Peter Ackerman

Darry Sragow
Political Director, Americans Elect
Managing Partner and Political Strategist for Hire, SNR Denton US, LLP
“One of California’s leading strategists for political campaigns, corporations, Native American tribes and nonprofit organizations.”
http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/americans-elect-board-of-advisors-names-and-connections-july-26-2011/

[Justinfrom1776]

That's scary as hell.. I try to avoid a lot of the Alex Jones type conspiracy shit(and pretend to be a good little Republican), but it's kind of hard when it's staring you in the face like this.

[John F Kennedy III]

They have $21 trillion in their couch cushions.

[SkarnkaiLW]

Truly the 0.0000000001 % Um Forward to the Campaign? I have no idea what to do.

[Kylie]

Betcha Van Jones will show up somewhere along the lines to endorse Huntsman, or something thereof.

That sounds like the kind of crazy shit that would come out of a thread like this.

[gls]

nothing stopping us from taking the delegates in this, sign up or we do not have anything to complain about. NO ONE BUT PAUL

There is that CNN clip floating around where the anchor says something like "what is to stop someone like Ron Paul's people from organizing and nominating him?" and the guy from Americans Elect was like "why, are you scared of Ron Paul?"

I mean, I don't trust these people at all, it almost seems like it's a trap somehow, but we could potentially win this (assuming the voting isn't rigged).

[Steppenwolf6]

I don't know why so many people here seem to like John Huntsmann.
I hate his guts.
At this point i prefer a Perry or Bachman,at least they somewhat stand for something.

Huntsmann:
Typical establishment professional politician with no real position on anything,apart from being a "global warming and evolution" enthusiast because "scientifical"authorities say so..sheep.

He is:
"lukewarm,neither warm or cold and for that.. i vomit you out"

[Kodaddy]

Stock up on food and ammo....this could get ugly...

[ryanmkeisling]

Truly the 0.0000000001 % Um Forward to the Campaign? I have no idea what to do.

Ron Paul joined? Join up and promote Dr. Paul. I joined and they are sending me emails to get involved, I wrote them back and said how I felt about where the money came from and their board of advisors and that I am already involved with RON PAUL. I ended my note with NO ONE BUT PAUL.

Let them know that they cannot co-opt us. I even gave them $20. Ron Paul is still the most tracked candidate on their site ahead of the president.

[SkarnkaiLW]

I meant to forward the link to them

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I thought the Rothchilds were behind every president in every country with a central bank, ever.

[BattleFlag1776]

This is voter fraud on a galactic level. Look out people the empire is striking back.

Can't say it better than that! What's frightening to me is the sheer number of people out there who will think this is legit.

[fred584]

you know what bring it on. RP is the only anti war candidate out there. 70% of the american people are against this crap. Let them keep splitting up the war mongers.

[Travlyr]

Rothschilds Give Formal Support to US Direct Democracy? (http://www.thedailybell.com/3325/Rothschilds-Give-Formal-Support-to-US-Direct-Democracy)
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 – by Staff Report - The Daily Bell


Conclusion: We have no idea whether Ms. Rothschild's perspective on direct democracy and government transparency will win the proverbial day or if the Internet Reformation itself will undermine it. But we do know that if one tracks the unfolding memes – like breadcrumbs – the trail is very plain to see. No, not conspiracy. Reality.

[hillertexas]

:eek:

[archangel689]

"Controlled Opposition"

[Athan]

I like Huntsman. At least shes not pushing Newt
At least she's not trying to buy an election...
OH SHIT.

[Athan]

These fuckers are infiltrating everything. We need a few people from our military to take these bastards out. They are the cause of all the problems in the world
Yeah that wouldn't happen.

[LibertyEagle]

Ron Paul joined? Join up and promote Dr. Paul. I joined and they are sending me emails to get involved, I wrote them back and said how I felt about where the money came from and their board of advisors and that I am already involved with RON PAUL. I ended my note with NO ONE BUT PAUL.

Let them know that they cannot co-opt us. I even gave them $20. Ron Paul is still the most tracked candidate on their site ahead of the president.

:confused:

[KingNothing]

FWIW Tom Friedman and David Brooks, I believe, are all about Americans Elect.

[WilliamC]

We need to infiltrate them.

The more they are talked about and exposed the less power they have.

[cucucachu0000]

Share it and get people and other ron paul people to sign up and vote we got to either vote for ron paul in the thing or for the most liberal person we can think of to kiill obamas socialist vote.

[kill the banks]

witchcraft in action by a witch

[Agorism]

Irregulartimes is the best place to follow this group.

From my understanding they don't follow their own bylaws in the agenda they do. The bylaws are just for show.

[unknown]

Whatever it is, its not real, correct? Just some kind of game?

Rothschilds??? Woah.

[unknown]

We need a few people from our military to take these bastards out.

Looks like they're planning for this contingency:

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke visits with Fort Bliss soldiers (http://www.elpasotimes.com/military/ci_19306705)

[Korey Kaczynski]

This actually makes sense. Hunstman is the only (semi?) reasonable "establishment" guy running so I'm actually kind of glad that these sort of elites are pushing him over nutcases like Gingrich, Perry, or Romney.

These mega rich people are still people. It's just about ideology. Their primary flaw is not understanding that evil will always exist, and the worst evil is to pretend that will never be the case, because you will get tyranny.

[Korey Kaczynski]

I don't think they're intrinsically evil. They probably do have some sort of elitism and disdain for the common folk, but like you and others here, have the same to them.

They live in their sleepyhead pillow world because they don't understand what it means to be poor, and many here don't understand what it is to be rich, especially on their level.

Acting like they're the world's rulers is just gonna make them hate you more. I'd rather they have dialogue with us, but we're "small people" to them. Oh well. There are other options anyways.

[certaindeath4]

Anyone have a source for their 21 trillion?

[Agorism]

Anyone have a source for their 21 trillion?

It was a quote in the article. No one knows how much though exactly.

[gerryb]

Let them know that they cannot co-opt us. I even gave them $20. Ron Paul is still the most tracked candidate on their site ahead of the president.

Really?

You couldn't even split those two sentences up by a paragraph or two?

[TER]

Anyone who would amass 21 trillion while billions of people are starving in this world is someone I would hope to never be. Lord have mercy.

I can't imagine them to be so rich. Is this even possible?

[kylejack]

There's a lot of different Rothschilds, not all of them or even the majority are bankers conspiring for a New World Order.

[TER]

There's a lot of different Rothschilds, not all of them or even the majority are bankers conspiring for a New World Order.

Which is what intrigues me... what if these people are believers and will use the fortune they have accumulated and give it to help those least fortunate amongst us, to give generously even now, especially now in anticipation of the Kingdom of God.

[The_Ruffneck]

The more money they print the richer they get

[Ashhhhh]

The more money they print the richer they get
Actually they would get poorer assuming a majority of their money is being saved

[Travlyr]

There's a lot of different Rothschilds, not all of them or even the majority are bankers conspiring for a New World Order.This is the London Rothschilds banking family.

Lynn Forester de Rothschild is the Chief Executive Officer of E.L. Rothschild, a holding company she owns with her husband Sir Evelyn Robert de Rothschild of the Rothschild family - London

2012: The Year of the Independent? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lady-lynn-forester-de-rothschild/2012-third-party-americans-elect_b_1128640.html)
A not-for-profit organization, called Americans Elect is establishing ballot access in all 50 states for the candidates for president and vice president in 2012 who will be nominated directly by the people in an online nominating process. The sophisticated website of Americans Elect allows registered voters a revolutionary new way to nominate a bipartisan ticket to occupy the White House. To date, the website has over 300,000 delegates, more than 50 times the number that participate in both the Democratic and Republican Party conventions (in full disclosure, I sit on the Leadership Board for Americans Elect).

[The_Ruffneck]

Actually they would get poorer assuming a majority of their money is being saved
In nominal terms.
Anyway i think alot of their wealth is in Gold , Properties and land.I know they own many vineyards in France , you can buy Rothschild brand wine if it so suits you.

[Agorism]

bump

[Pauls' Revere]

Online voting?...what could possibly go wrong?

[Agorism]

bump

[liberty2897]

21 trillion, that's like $0.17 / hour since time started 14 billion years ago (if you believe that). I guess if you were God, then 17 cents / hour was probably a lot back then.

[unknown]

Now I understand why Huntsman attacked Ron Paul's economic policies:


“Huntsman is the Only Electable Republican” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, December 3 2011

“@JonHuntsman only candidate to seriously consider financial reform and other hard issues RT @Timodc #Q4Jon trending worldwide. Cool stuff!” — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, November 29 2011

[ryanmkeisling]

Really?

You couldn't even split those two sentences up by a paragraph or two?

Well you can bet this is their goal. The more I interact with them the more obvious it is. Considering all of the people that sit on the board of advisors it would be good to co-opt them instead, or at least keep an eye on their process an eye from within. This is obviously some type of model system for voting/politics the cia has been working on, considering the cfr correlation. Just like the internet itself, this is a natural evolution of our current technologies, and the younger generations are very familiar with this type of interaction. Smartphones, tablets like the iPad, bluetooth headsets, wireless everything, etc. Computer technology moves forward exponentially these days. I can still remember before the world wide web, when the "internet" was a group of intranets (aol, prodigy, newsgroups) before the desktop, when wordperfect was how you accessed programs and games. Now the iPhone is like having a pc in your pocket, with a camera, a phone, a walkman, all in one. And money is mostly meaningless because it isn't backed by anything of value other than the Americans ability to spend it. Look how much the fed continues to print and loan to banks at 0% interest.

There is a manipulative ruling global elite, no question; this was definitely something thought up at a billderberg meeting. What else do you think they do there? It is complex, geo-strategic large scale, global social planning, eugenics, the whole deck of cards and technologies are a huge part of how it has gotten to where it is, the world we live in today.

What will the next 20 years bring? You can bet politics will be a part of it, in one way or another. It is a good idea to keep an eye and a hand in this process they are setting up, because the way things stand today, the future is very uncertain. I have the feeling that things are going to change real soon for us all. They are preparing for something with this, wether in 2012 or in the years that follow. Good or bad it is a sign of things to come.

[Agorism]

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[J_White]

i was having scary thoughts about Huntsman being some kind of a compromise candidate - for people who dont want to vote Mitt because they dont trust them and for people who dont want to vote Dr. Paul because they have been brainwashed to death by the MSM against him. if he gets a push in NH, he might hang on in the Repub primary process, else who knows, maybe americans elect will be his secret weapon !
its gonna get dirty !

[Travlyr]

American's Elect keep changing the rules and voting is electronic.

Do you really believe that Ron Paul has only 2477 online supporters on there?

The board controls it all. Even the money supply.

[trey4sports]

ohh boy, we know how swell the Rothschild's are:)

[JuicyG]

Cool. Maybe Paul would have a real chance as 3d party going through these guys.

[Travlyr]

Cool. Maybe Paul would have a real chance as 3d party going through these guys.

You actually believe that the owners of the Federal Reserve System would elect Ron Paul! lolz... come on... or did I miss the sarcasm?

[Nathan Hale]

The beauty of the Americans Elect system is that we can take it over with our numbers. It's worth it to sign up and boost Ron Paul's draft numbers.

[Travlyr]

If those numbers are accurate. I signed up as a Ron Paul supporter on that page last year and I know others have too. Why is the counter stuck on 2477? I just don't know. Maybe a glitch.

[JuicyG]

You actually believe that the owners of the Federal Reserve System would elect Ron Paul! lolz... come on... or did I miss the sarcasm?

I don`t buy into the Rothschild conspiracy theory. I pity those who do.

Also, don`t know if you`re aware or not but Peter Thiel is a part of the Bilderberg Group and he donated few mil $ to Paul`s campaign. I wonder what conspiracy twist you`d attach to that.
Bilderberg Group

Thiel is listed as a member of the Steering Committee of The Bilderberg Group, a controversial group of influential business and government leaders who meet annually behind closed doors under a media blackout to discuss world issues.[25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

[Travlyr]

I don`t buy into the Rothschild conspiracy theory. I pity those who do.

Also, don`t know if you`re aware or not but Peter Thiel is a part of the Bilderberg Group and he donated few mil $ to Paul`s campaign. I wonder what conspiracy twist you`d attach to that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

It is not a conspiracy theory. It is a fact. The participants admitted it. Study Some History (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?330008-Some-History&p=3742107&viewfull=1#post3742107). It's documented.

[Travlyr]

I don`t buy into the Rothschild conspiracy theory. I pity those who do.

Also, don`t know if you`re aware or not but Peter Thiel is a part of the Bilderberg Group and he donated few mil $ to Paul`s campaign. I wonder what conspiracy twist you`d attach to that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

That's dishonest of you. I never made any mention of Peter Thiel. The Rothschilds conspiracy is documented fact.

[JuicyG]

That's dishonest of you. I never made any mention of Peter Thiel. The Rothschilds conspiracy is documented fact.

Documented fact? Hardly.

Rothschild is an old family. They were in the public spotlight since the Napoleonic wars. Just because some of their ancestors did some shady things at some point, doesn`t mean the new generations should share the sin of their forefathers.

[donnay]

That's scary as hell.. I try to avoid a lot of the Alex Jones type conspiracy shit(and pretend to be a good little Republican), but it's kind of hard when it's staring you in the face like this.

Thing is Alex Jones was talking about this more than a decade ago! You should have been paying attention! Tsk, Tsk, Tsk.

[KingNothing]

If those numbers are accurate. I signed up as a Ron Paul supporter on that page last year and I know others have too. Why is the counter stuck on 2477? I just don't know. Maybe a glitch.

It's at 2485 now. They must know you're on to them, so they stopped rigging this thing. For a little while, anyway.

[KingNothing]

Thing is Alex Jones was talking about this more than a decade ago! You should have been paying attention! Tsk, Tsk, Tsk.

Well, he was also saying we'd be bombed and all sorts of semi-apocalyptic attacks would happen then too. Hard to decide which of his words we should believe, and which we should discount.

[hueylong]

Ron Paul is the top vote getter at Americans Elect.

[Travlyr]

Documented fact? Hardly.

Rothschild is an old family. They were in the public spotlight since the Napoleonic wars. Just because some of their ancestors did some shady things at some point, doesn`t mean the new generations should share the sin of their forefathers.

Some shady things eh? What, like try and elect our President? Shady like that? Or fund both sides of wars? Shady like that? Their shenanigans are well documented throughout history.

[JuicyG]

Thing is Alex Jones was talking about this more than a decade ago! You should have been paying attention! Tsk, Tsk, Tsk.

Some funny wishful predictions. Alex Jones pops in at min 0:50


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJ9o6XJPqk

[donnay]

Documented fact? Hardly.

Rothschild is an old family. They were in the public spotlight since the Napoleonic wars. Just because some of their ancestors did some shady things at some point, doesn`t mean the new generations should share the sin of their forefathers.

Juicy dear, of course they are an old family with lots and lots of money that help push their agenda through. You really need to learn to research a bit before defending the Rothschilds.

Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild boasted:

"I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply."

[Travlyr]

It's at 2485 now. They must know you're on to them, so they stopped rigging this thing. For a little while, anyway.

Seriously? You must be in REM sleep. Ron Paul has only 2485 online supporters on that website after several months? Give me a break. Ron Paul get thousands of votes on online polls in hours. Doesn't that seem a little suspicious to you?

Sure... let's do the electronic online voting thing in 2012.

[donnay]

Some funny wishful predictions. Alex Jones pops in at min 0:50


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJ9o6XJPqk



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJVP6LfMwQ0&feature=related





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehtwRMGD1M

[JuicyG]

Seriously? You must be in REM sleep. Ron Paul has only 2485 online supporters on that website after several months? Give me a break. Ron Paul get thousands of votes on online polls in hours. Doesn't that seem a little suspicious to you?

Sure... let's do the electronic online voting thing in 2012.

Ron Paul has only 22 active users on the folding@home team and I`ve been bumping thread for a week lol. Thread had over 2000 views and just 22 people signed up so... I `m not surprised that website didn`t get more Paul signatures. It`s little known website and people still want to see Paul doing well on the GOP ticket.

Go and sign up btw. Details in my signature.

[Travlyr]

Ron Paul has only 22 active users on the folding@home team and I`ve been bumping thread for a week lol. Thread had over 2000 views and just 22 people signed up so... I `m not surprised that website didn`t get more Paul signatures. It`s little known website and people still want to see Paul doing well on the GOP ticket.

Go and sign up btw. Details in my signature.

You know I'm not all that tech savvy but it looks like they want access to my computer. I don't think I'll be doing that. Thanks for the offer, nonetheless.

[JuicyG]

You know I'm not all that tech savvy but it looks like they want access to my computer. I don't think I'll be doing that. Thanks for the offer, nonetheless.

This project uses combined power of PCs/Macs/PS3s across the world for anti-cancer research and such. Each user contributes and generates points according to how powerful his computer is(you can also install it on multiple machines). Score each user generates adds up to the total team score. RonPaul2012 team is getting close to top 4k.

Don`t want to stir up your paranoia and such, but if someone really motivated wanted access to your PC, they`d already have it. Lots of professional spyware comes up as windows or itunes updates. Most people wouldn`t stand a chance against some professional infiltration attempt.

folding@home is a project run by Stanford University. They`re not out to get you.

[Travlyr]

This projects uses combined power of PCs/Macs/PS3s across the world for anti-cancer research and such. Each user contributes and generates points according to how powerful his computer is(you can also install it on multiple machines). Score each user generates adds up to the total team score. RonPaul2012 team is getting close to top 4k.

Don`t want to stir up your paranoia and such, but if someone really motivated wanted access to your PC, they`d already have it. Lots of professional spyware comes up as windows or itunes updates. Most people wouldn`t stand a chance against some professional infiltration attempt.

folding@home is a project run by Stanford University. They`re not out to get you.
That's pretty rude. I said no thank you. I don't let my children have access to my computer. It has nothing to do with your baseless dishonest assertion to conspiracy or my fear of boogie men out to get me. It is my computer. I donate to charities of my choice of my own free will.

[JuicyG]

That's dishonest of you. I never made any mention of Peter Thiel. The Rothschilds conspiracy is documented fact.

So I guess Alex Jones is full of BS when it comes to the Bilderberg, right? If these people are full of BS when it comes to Bilderberg why do you think they`re right when it comes to Rotschilds or others?

[donnay]

So I guess Alex Jones is full of BS when it comes to the Bilderberg, right? If these people are full of BS when it comes to Bilderberg why do you think they`re right when it comes to Rotschilds or others?

What are you talking about?

[Travlyr]

So I guess Alex Jones is full of BS when it comes to the Bilderberg, right? If these people are full of BS when it comes to Bilderberg why do you think they`re right when it comes to Rotschilds or others?
I don't listen to Alex Jones. I like him. And I know a lot of people do listen to him, but I don't listen to radio anymore. I read. I read the facts of history.

[Roxi]

I don't get it... she's supposed to be so powerful, but Huntsman didn't go anywhere?

[JuicyG]

What are you talking about?

You may want to search back a few posts. Peter Thiel is reportedly a Bilderberg member(currently top donor to Paul campaign), which Alex Jones puts in same pot with Rothschild and other such NWO conspiracy.

Thiel is listed as a member of the Steering Committee of The Bilderberg Group, a controversial group of influential business ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

Was making the case it`s stupid to think in these terms of some grand conspiracy or putting a collective blame on some group or family. Some things just don`t add up you know, unless you`re highly paranoid and think whole world is some conspiracy. Things are not that simple.

I`ve also seen several presentations Peter Schiff made to the Rotary Club and those are known freemasons so...Should we find some conspiracy there also?

Back to this Rothschild topic. Do you think current Rothschild is same as Rothschild generation that lived in the times of Napoleon? Are you the same as your grandmother or grandfather? We`re not even like our parents in many ways.

There`s no grand conspiracy. It`s just business, ideas and dreams. That`s all there is. Very often interests among power groups clash together, because you won`t find 2 people on this earth who want the same thing.

[r3volution]

Huntmann has a secret Trillionaire? :eek: ;) :toady: even our old profit ghemmy could not have foreseen this .

[Travlyr]

You may want to search back a few posts. Peter Thiel is reportedly a Bilderberg member(currently top donor to Paul campaign), which Alex Jones puts in same pot with Rothschild and other such NWO conspiracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

Was making the case it`s stupid to think in these terms of some grand conspiracy or putting a collective blame on some group or family. Some things just don`t add up you know, unless you`re highly paranoid and think whole world is some conspiracy. Things are not that simple.

I`ve also seen several presentations Peter Schiff made to the Rotary Club and those are known freemasons so...Should we find some conspiracy there also?

Back to this Rothschild topic. Do you think current Rothschild is same as Rothschild generation that lived in the times of Napoleon? Are you the same as your grandmother or grandfather? We`re not even like our parents in many ways.

There`s no grand conspiracy. It`s just business, ideas and dreams. That`s all there is. Very often interests among power groups clash together, because you won`t find 2 people on this earth who want the same thing.

London bankers interested in running America's elections is a legitimate concern for liberty loving Americans.

When 67-year-old British banking scion Sir Evelyn Rothschild first set eyes on 44-year-old Lynn Forester at the 1998 Bilderberg conference—the matchmaker was none other than Henry Kissinger—she was already a woman of major means.

Read more: http://www.portfolio.com/views/columns/the-world-according-to/2007/10/05/An-interview-with-Lady-de-Rothschild/#ixzz1n2hoycnO


"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England (2nd richest man in England)

[Travlyr]

I don't get it... she's supposed to be so powerful, but Huntsman didn't go anywhere?

Ron Paul is and he doesn't have much money at all. "The Times They Are A Changin"

[bolil]

Lets hope so.

[KingNothing]

I don't get it... she's supposed to be so powerful, but Huntsman didn't go anywhere?


It's all part of her evil plan to exterminate humans and enjoy the excitement of eternal life and beautiful trips to outer space. The plan is so elaborate that you, brainwashed simpleton, aren't enlightened enough to understand it.

[Travlyr]

It's all part of her evil plan to exterminate humans and enjoy the excitement of eternal life and beautiful trips to outer space. The plan is so elaborate that you, brainwashed simpleton, aren't enlightened enough to understand it.
So, you believe the conspiracy theory too?

Perhaps her intentions are self-interest. Maybe she doesn't want to give up her lavish lifestyle. Ending the Federal Reserve System's counterfeiting operations would do that, you know. I know if I was a Rothschild banker I would do my best to keep the printing press. That sucker pays better than slot tables in Vegas. How else would you be able to afford $billion weddings?

[Nathan Hale]

Seriously? You must be in REM sleep. Ron Paul has only 2485 online supporters on that website after several months? Give me a break. Ron Paul get thousands of votes on online polls in hours. Doesn't that seem a little suspicious to you?

Sure... let's do the electronic online voting thing in 2012.

Well, that's not entirely accurate. He has over 10,000 trackers - people who took the time to sign up and answer at least 50 questions. That's a bar big enough to drive off a large number of Paul supporters. But that's nowhere near what people have to go through in order to "support" Paul. If you want to support him, you have to verify your identity with another long process. I did it because I want Paul to win their nomination, but you can imagine how many Paul fans that would turn off...

[NewRightLibertarian]

There`s no grand conspiracy. It`s just business, ideas and dreams. That`s all there is. Very often interests among power groups clash together, because you won`t find 2 people on this earth who want the same thing.

Nah, you're wrong. It definitely is a grand conspiracy. Are you familiar with the history of the Federal Reserve?

[NewRightLibertarian]

It's all part of her evil plan to exterminate humans and enjoy the excitement of eternal life and beautiful trips to outer space. The plan is so elaborate that you, brainwashed simpleton, aren't enlightened enough to understand it.

Do you honestly think it matters if Huntsman or the rest of the guys sans Paul gets the nomination? There's no difference between any of them. She probably gave Huntsman a little cash to groom him for this Americans Elect sham garbage she's orchestrating.

[Travlyr]

Yeah, when I first looked at it a couple of months ago Ron was winning. It just surprised me this morning when it looked like it was stuck. Now we are gaining. This morning Ron Paul started out with 2477 supporters now he is up to 2513. We've gained 36 supporters since 9:00 this morning. It looks like it updates every hour.

[Nathan Hale]

Yeah, when I first looked at it a couple of months ago Ron was winning. It just surprised me this morning when it looked like it was stuck. Now we are gaining. This morning Ron Paul started out with 2477 supporters now he is up to 2513. We've gained 36 supporters since 9:00 this morning. It looks like it updates every hour.

I like to think that a lot of that has to do with the discussion we're having here and in the other thread.

[Travlyr]

I agree.

[donnay]

You may want to search back a few posts. Peter Thiel is reportedly a Bilderberg member(currently top donor to Paul campaign), which Alex Jones puts in same pot with Rothschild and other such NWO conspiracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel

Was making the case it`s stupid to think in these terms of some grand conspiracy or putting a collective blame on some group or family. Some things just don`t add up you know, unless you`re highly paranoid and think whole world is some conspiracy. Things are not that simple.

I`ve also seen several presentations Peter Schiff made to the Rotary Club and those are known freemasons so...Should we find some conspiracy there also?

Back to this Rothschild topic. Do you think current Rothschild is same as Rothschild generation that lived in the times of Napoleon? Are you the same as your grandmother or grandfather? We`re not even like our parents in many ways.

There`s no grand conspiracy. It`s just business, ideas and dreams. That`s all there is. Very often interests among power groups clash together, because you won`t find 2 people on this earth who want the same thing.



Jones never said he was a Bilderberg member, he said, in fact, Peter Thiel was an attendee at the 2011 meeting. Doesn't mean he is a member just that he was invited to attend. Lot's of people have been invited to their non-public meetings--why are your deliberately adding misinformation?

http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-2011-full-official-attendee-list/

[Mark37snj]

All smoke and mirrors. They know there is a legitimate threat that a 3rd Formidible/Credible Party is about to form and threaten their political domination so they are simply trying to co-opt it by buying it now.

[bolil]

Could be, or they could be subverting their old two party system with a new one party system.

[Travlyr]

Not All Conspiracies Are Theories.

Here are former conspiracy theories that were finally proven as facts.

Fact: International banker Paul Warburg conspired with Senator Nelson Aldrich, and others, in November 1910 to gain control of America's money supply. The result was the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 a fiat money system which passed through congress on the eve of Christmas eve with nearly 1/3 of the congress members absent.
Fact: The three WTC buildings were explosively demolished on September 11, 2001.
Fact: The Gulf of Tonkin incident President Johnson used to justify escalating the Vietnam war on August 4, 1964 never happened.
Fact: The USS Liberty was attacked by the Israeli military in 1967 and killed 34 U.S. servicemen.


I don`t buy into the Rothschild conspiracy theory. I pity those who do.

Also, don`t know if you`re aware or not but Peter Thiel is a part of the Bilderberg Group and he donated few mil $ to Paul`s campaign. I wonder what conspiracy twist you`d attach to that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel



Don`t want to stir up your paranoia and such, but if someone really motivated wanted access to your PC, they`d already have it. Lots of professional spyware comes up as windows or itunes updates. Most people wouldn`t stand a chance against some professional infiltration attempt.

folding@home is a project run by Stanford University. They`re not out to get you.
I made no claim that Peter Thiel is involved in conspiracy. It is not paranoia that keeps me from offering my computer resources to others, and I am not scared of "somebody out to get me." That is disingenuous of you to make those false assertions.

Facts are facts. I trust the facts. Theories are not yet proven so I don't believe in theories unless/until they become facts.

[Nathan Hale]

If anything, Peter Thiel's presence at the Bilderberg meeting undermines the assertion that Bilderberg is some backroom NWO festival.

[Mark37snj]

Could be, or they could be subverting their old two party system with a new one party system.

:confused:......:eek:............................. ...............:eek:.............................. ..:toady:

[NewRightLibertarian]

If anything, Peter Thiel's presence at the Bilderberg meeting undermines the assertion that Bilderberg is some backroom NWO festival.

They're always looking to bring people into their network of evil, whether the people know what they are getting into or don't. They invite singers and movie stars to events like Bilderberg and the Council on Foreign Relations, do you think they have any idea what it's all about? Most likely they don't, they just go to make connections or because they want to feel like they're aristocrats

[Nathan Hale]

They're always looking to bring people into their network of evil, whether the people know what they are getting into or don't. They invite singers and movie stars to events like Bilderberg and the Council on Foreign Relations, do you think they have any idea what it's all about? Most likely they don't, they just go to make connections or because they want to feel like they're aristocrats

Or perhaps these organizations are just not that big a deal. Just sayin'.

[KingNothing]

If anything, Peter Thiel's presence at the Bilderberg meeting undermines the assertion that Bilderberg is some backroom NWO festival.

That's just what THEY want you to think!

[KingNothing]

Not All Conspiracies Are Theories.

Here are former conspiracy theories that were finally proven as facts.

Fact: International banker Paul Warburg conspired with Senator Nelson Aldrich, and others, in November 1910 to gain control of America's money supply. The result was the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 a fiat money system which passed through congress on the eve of Christmas eve with nearly 1/3 of the congress members absent.
Fact: The three WTC buildings were explosively demolished on September 11, 2001.
Fact: The Gulf of Tonkin incident President Johnson used to justify escalating the Vietnam war on August 4, 1964 never happened.
Fact: The USS Liberty was attacked by the Israeli military in 1967 and killed 34 U.S. servicemen.


1.) True. But even if all the Senators were there, the vote would have still passed.
2.) Wow. Throwing that in here? Really?
3.) True.
4.) True, but not a conspiracy.

[Travlyr]

1.) True. But even if all the Senators were there, the vote would have still passed.
You don't know it still would have passed. Over 40 major differences between the House bill and Senate bill were resolved on Sunday December 21, 1913 with nearly 1/3 of the members of congress absent. Sunday was considered an important day of rest at the time. Yet congress resolved the most important legislation in the history of the republic on that day!?! Many members of congress came back from Christmas vacation quite angry that they had been betrayed because they had a gentlemen's agreement to take it back up in the new year. Again, it was a conspiracy theory proven later to be a fact.



2.) Wow. Throwing that in here? Really?
Absolutely. I do not believe theories. I believe facts. To move from theory to fact the scientific method of proof is employed. Expert testimony, eyewitness testimony, examine the evidence, analyze evidence, test the hypothesis, and draw conclusions. The experts conclude that fires did not demolish the three World Trade Center buildings on 9/11. The buildings came crashing down at near free fall. That is only possible in controlled demolition. It is a fact.



3.) True.


4.) True, but not a conspiracy.
The cover-up was a conspiracy.

[Nathan Hale]

That's just what THEY want you to think!

Ooh a conspiracy within a conspiracy....

[Firestarter]

I was looking for a thread on the giant PR firm Burson-Marsteller, but couldn't find a single one...

This thread is pretty interesting. I would like to add to it that "Sir" Evelyn Rothschild (financial adviser to Queen Elizabeth) was in New York on 9/11 and lives in an apartment building with some interesting people, including Henry Kissinger and Wilbert Ross.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YDzCwC4c7cU/WeoqmVNxGmI/AAAAAAAAhUs/9XSxK5o42cEdbG1NO4j4fdXdEjE3bidiACLcBGAs/s640/De%2BRothschild.jpg