FDNY come to rescue of NYPD after mob of 55 kids turns on two officers

[Cowlesy]

Seriously what is wrong with our society.

55 kids show up taunting one girl to come out in fight. When neighbors call the cops, two show up and the mob takes them down. Luckily a fire truck wasn't far away and responded with a deluge cannon to knock the rabble off the officers.

http://www.silive.com/northshore/index.ssf/2011/12/9_arrests_in_staten_island_inc.html



It just disgusts me this happens in my city.

People are raising little monsters for children.

[Cowlesy]

And we pound someone's face in for a pair of sneakers! (although this is in Boston)

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/12/06/dean-college-students-suspended-after-beating-video-surfaces-online/

[Dr.3D]

Shows a lack of discipline. First they took it out of the schools and now they are working on keeping parents from teaching it at home.

[AuH20]

80 year old priest severely beaten. Any vigilantes out there when we need them?:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/06/80-year-old-priest-severely-beaten-in-rectory/

[WilliamC]

You put too many rats in a cage and they will start killing each other.

I wish humans were different, but it seems we are not.

I never have been comfortable in cities...

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

It is shit like this that leaves me right on the edge of just letting the scum have the country and going Galt.

[AuH20]

"men get arrested! dogs get put down!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45V6db9CKcc

[amy31416]

80 year old priest severely beaten. Any vigilantes out there when we need them?:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/06/80-year-old-priest-severely-beaten-in-rectory/

Boondock Saints are needed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKzM8xsQ5-U

[Kluge]

Sounds like the kids are lacking parental role models, and the police are doing a piss-poor job posturing themselves as a substitute.

[James Madison]

It is shit like this that leaves me right on the edge of just letting the scum have the country and going Galt.

Any good places to re-settle to?

[Seraphim]

Oh you know god damn well the vigilante's will come out to help and then the State will come in and say the vigilantes are the problem.

I'll take Batman over Statistman every day.


PS: Get the fuck out of major American cities. It's your fault if SHTF and you didn't leave, knowing it would happen.


80 year old priest severely beaten. Any vigilantes out there when we need them?:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/06/80-year-old-priest-severely-beaten-in-rectory/

[AuH20]

Oh you know god damn well the vigilante's will come out to help and then the State will come in and say the vigilantes are the problem.

I'll take Batman over Statistman every day.


PS: Get the fuck out of major American cities. It's your fault if SHTF and you didn't leave, knowing it would happen.

The universal concept that "no man is above the law" is very frightening to the elites. They don't like the mere possibility of surrendering the privileges they enjoy.

[Seraphim]

They are about to find out that when you treat masses of human beings as animals - THEY WILL ACT AS SUCH.

This flash mob attack shit is going to get more and more prevelant. Vigilantes; unite and get some guns. There are days and events that will take SERIOUS defence capabilities to protect your own.

Support your local militia. The Feds CANNOT get away with shutting down militias when the militias are composed of "THE PEOPLE".


The universal concept that "no man is above the law" is very frightening to the elites. They don't like the mere possibility of surrendering the privileges they enjoy.

[nobody's_hero]

You put too many rats in a cage and they will start killing each other.

I wish humans were different, but it seems we are not.

I never have been comfortable in cities...

Wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who said something about cities?

EDIT: Yes it was.

Thomas Jefferson to James Madison:


"I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe."

I think he was wrong about our governments remaining virtuous (not sure if they ever were all that virtuous), but undoubtedly cities seem to fuel the growth of them by leaps and bounds.

[Seraphim]

Correct. He despised them. He was an farming/rural businessman.


Wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who said something about cities?

[AuH20]

Cities gradually rob men of their individuality and ruggedness, making them more pliable for corruption and ultimately enslavement.

[heavenlyboy34]

Any good places to re-settle to?
Galt's Gulch?

[Keith and stuff]

Any good places to re-settle to?

Don't tease me :)

http://www.whosaidyousaid.com/2010/06/where-do-coloradans-move-who-want-more-freedom-new-hampshire/

The 101 Reasons while people are leaving the other 49 states and re-settling in NH. http://freestateproject.org/101Reasons
Additional reasons, http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?124976-101-Reasons-to-move-to-New-Hampshire&p=3662035&viewfull=1#post3662035

[ShaneEnochs]

I can't stand entering cities. First of all, I hate crowds. The mall makes me tense up. But my soon-to-be father-in-law took me into Chicago a couple months back, and I couldn't believe the hysteria. People acted more like animals than humans. It was chaos. People running out in the road screaming and people knocking on the window of your car. Scared the crap out of me. I'd rather live in a rural area. With my Bible. And my gun.

[iGGz]

What zoo did they escape from?

[jkr]

the water cannons are already here

[Nate-ForLiberty]

Wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who said something about cities?

EDIT: Yes it was.

Thomas Jefferson to James Madison:



I think he was wrong about our governments remaining virtuous (not sure if they ever were all that virtuous), but undoubtedly cities seem to fuel the growth of them by leaps and bounds.


Cities gradually rob men of their individuality and ruggedness, making them more pliable for corruption and ultimately enslavement.


I believe that cities are the creation of totalitarian governments. You wouldn't see them even close to the scale we've seen in a truly free society. Someone from the Mises Institute gave a speech once about skyscrapers and economic bubbles. (going to go find)

EDIT: easy find


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWMtQxos5BQ

EDIT 2: On a philosophical note, is it any surprise that totalitarian central banking leads to large cities, which look like a diseased growth on the planet's surface? Don't let anybody tell you it's the human race that is the problem. It's government. Clear and present.

[Cowlesy]

Wtf is with these kids, and why are judges basing their sentencing convictions on "well their religion doesn't permit drinking and they were clearly drunk so, sentence suspended. Glad your kicks to the head didn't kill her!"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html


Girl gang who kicked woman in the head while yelling 'kill the white slag' freed after judge hears 'they weren't used to drinking because they're Muslims'
Yobs ripped lump of hair from Rhea Page's head during High Street attack
Three sisters and cousin escape with six-month suspended sentences
Maximum term for assault occasioning actual bodily harm is five years' jail
Judge: 'Those who knock someone to the floor and kick them in the head can expect to go inside, but I'm going to suspend the sentence'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html#ixzz1ftojt6M0

It's cool though, I mean they're just trying to adjust!

[youngbuck]

And we pound someone's face in for a pair of sneakers! (although this is in Boston)

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/12/06/dean-college-students-suspended-after-beating-video-surfaces-online/

Omg, what a bunch of out of control animals! I watched the video in that link: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh6Oe0p57YMcDOg7Gi

and am appalled that they're part of the human race. In the comments of the video, a poster says "According to a Reuters article I just read, the victim's parents provided investugators with a receipt for those sneakers." If true, I hope the attacker gets charged and convicted of robbery, among other things.

[Marenco]

You could imagine what the nation would look like when food shortages start happening. No wonder Thomas Jefferson didn't like cities very much:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLu49pq3bI

[amy31416]

Wtf is with these kids, and why are judges basing their sentencing convictions on "well their religion doesn't permit drinking and they were clearly drunk so, sentence suspended. Glad your kicks to the head didn't kill her!"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html


It's cool though, I mean they're just trying to adjust!

What. the. F#&@!

[iGGz]

Wtf is with these kids, and why are judges basing their sentencing convictions on "well their religion doesn't permit drinking and they were clearly drunk so, sentence suspended. Glad your kicks to the head didn't kill her!"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

It's cool though, I mean they're just trying to adjust!

Wow, that's f'ed up. That video made me so mad. If I was that guy, those 4 girls would have been knocked out on the ground. WTF was he doing.

[Cowlesy]

Omg, what a bunch of out of control animals! I watched the video in that link: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh6Oe0p57YMcDOg7Gi

and am appalled that they're part of the human race. In the comments of the video, a poster says "According to a Reuters article I just read, the victim's parents provided investugators with a receipt for those sneakers." If true, I hope the attacker gets charged and convicted of robbery, among other things.

Watching that video link you posted just made it 1000x worse. I mean what is your recourse there? Even if the kid just hands over his shoes to save a beating, he's still going to get beat.

[LibForestPaul]

no cities should be safe, no guns

[flightlesskiwi]

What. the. F#&@!

we all know who runs the judicial system. they know EXACTLY what they are doing, i assure you all. sentences like this incite racial warfare amongst the mundanes.

[Nate-ForLiberty]

Wtf is with these kids, and why are judges basing their sentencing convictions on "well their religion doesn't permit drinking and they were clearly drunk so, sentence suspended. Glad your kicks to the head didn't kill her!"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html



It's cool though, I mean they're just trying to adjust!

Ok, I wasn't going to watch it but I did. Yes, what everyone is saying about the judges, ..but I want to add.

WHAT. THE. SHIT. is that little boy doing?!?!

I'm a weak little hobbit myself, but if 4 drunk women came after someone I was with I sure as shit wouldn't be standing around watching! That made me mad more that the judge! Yeah he tried to get in there a little, but kept getting over powered. I'd understand if it was four dudes or even just 1 big dude.

BUT WHAT THE FUCK!?

Look at the beginning of the video. He's standing there holding his stuff watching his girlfriend get jacked up. Then he's able to do a bit when he gets angry, but then STOPS TO PICK UP HIS SHIT!> WHAT THE FUCK!

IF YOU"RE ATTACKED, DESTROY YOUR ATTACKER AND THEN WORRY ABOUT YOUR BAG, YOU FREAKIN MARY!

WHEN THEY ARE DOWN, GOD DAMN KICK THEM SQUARE IN THE HEAD!!! THEIR TEETH BELONG IN YOUR POCKET AND THEIR HAIR HANGING FROM YOUR BELT!!!!!

IF SOMEONE INITIATES FORCE AGAINST YOU, YOU. OWN. THEIR. LIFE!!!!


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUU!








...damnit, Cowlsey.

[Kodaddy]

What is the rationale for beating an 80yr old priest?
You want to go to hell, but you don't want to wait in line?

[Brian4Liberty]

Wtf is with these kids, and why are judges basing their sentencing convictions on "well their religion doesn't permit drinking and they were clearly drunk so, sentence suspended. Glad your kicks to the head didn't kill her!"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html



If I was that guy, those 4 girls would have been knocked out on the ground. WTF was he doing.



WHAT. THE. SHIT. is that little boy doing?!?!


Think about these factors:

- He wasn't out looking for a fight. He wasn't "prepared".
- He's been taught his whole life not to hit a woman.
- He hit some of them and knocked them back, but didn't "finish them". Is that what you really think he should do?
- He did not know that there was a camera catching his side of the story.
- Without camera evidence, he would probably end up in jail, and charged with a hate crime for hitting those girls.
- And if the only part of this story was that a guy was beating woman, the outrage against him would be just as loud, if not louder.


And if you think any of that is an exaggeration, in the SF Bay area, a drunk, dirty bum came up to a guy's girlfriend while he was paying for gas inside. The drunk made a bunch of obscene remarks to the girl, dropped his pants, and pulled it out. The boyfriend came out upon this and pushed the bum. Due to his pants being half down he fell backwards, hit his head, and died. The 100% non-criminal background boyfriend was put through the ringer, with bleeding heart leftist idiots in the media calling for his head, calling it murder and a hate crime, and all kinds of other nonsense. This world is upside down, don't doubt it for a second.

[Seraphim]

To Nate for Liberty:

I agree.

If 4 woman for no reason came up and started beating on my woman - I would selectively over power the biggest of the woman and then stomp on her face. Watch how fast the other 3 back off as their friend shutters, cries and shakes violently in pain.

[Brian4Liberty]

If 4 woman for no reason came up and started beating on my woman - I would selectively over power the biggest of the woman and then stomp on her face. Watch how fast the other 3 back off as their friend shutters, cries and shakes violently in pain.

Have you ever stomped on anyone's face? Have you ever knocked anyone down?

[JoshLowry]

What zoo did they escape from?

I was debating if they were possibly RPF members I knew.

[Seraphim]

I've been gang beat fellow. I made a mistake near the beginning of the event and it cost me a flattened nose, work days and a concussion.

Trust me, when savages come at you...your options become very limited.

If someone attacks you, DO WHAT YOU MUST.


Have you ever stomped on anyone's face? Have you ever knocked anyone down?

[Dr.3D]

no cities should be safe, no guns
LOL

If he had one, I wonder if he would have used it.

[Kluge]

Have you ever stomped on anyone's face? Have you ever knocked anyone down?
Having a long history of doing this digitally, I'd like to stress the importance of first dismembering mutants prior to stomping on them. Generally, you want to go for the arms first, and if threats remain, remove their arms before continuing on your self-defense. They can probably still spit, and that's the point where you'll want to start the head-stomping. It's important the skull is crushed to prevent them from either regenerating limbs or regaining consciousness.

So remember -- don't get attached to your target. Remove the primary target's arms, then go the the next and the next until you've neutralized the threat of dangerous attacks. Only then do you go in for the head-stomping.

[Seraphim]

Lol ^^

[Brian4Liberty]

I've been gang beat fellow. I made a mistake near the beginning of the event and it cost me a flattened nose, work days and a concussion.

Trust me, when savages come at you...your options become very limited.

If someone attacks you, DO WHAT YOU MUST.

Yeah, but when they are on the ground, possibly incapacitated, it's uncivilized to continue hitting them. Obviously, not everyone is civil. It's like that other McDonald's beat down video, where the worker gave those two girls a couple of extra wacks when they were on the ground. At some point, most people think it's excessive. We can't all be Police, where the rules of civility are null and void. ;)

[Seraphim]

Ahhh the rose coloured lenses someone with no life experience in this regard holds.

I got gang attacked. I QUICKLY speared and pinned the biggest guy and he **IN FRONT OF 30-40 WITNESS** yelled "BE A MAN THE FIGHT IS OVER. PLEASE, BE A MAN".

SoI let him up figuring, NO WAY does anything go wrong with all these witnesses.

NOPE. As soon as I let him up he cracked me in the nose again and within 20 secs I had 2 guys pulling my hair back exposing my chin as they yelled to their 3rd and 4th to "KICK HIS FACE IN".

ALL THE WHILE THE WITNESSES WATCH AS I GET MY SHIT OWNED and MY "FRIEND" RUNS AWAY.

Check you condesending shit. When shit goes down, SHIT GOES DOWN.

I say it again, IF YOU GET IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS...CRACK THE MOTHER FUCKERS SKULL LIKE THE SAVAGE THEY ARE AND DONT FEEL A BIT OF GOD DAMN REMORSE.

YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSElF!!!


Yeah, but when they are on the ground, possibly incapacitated, it's uncivilized to continue hitting them. Obviously, not everyone is civil. It's like that other McDonald's beat down video, where the worker gave those two girls a couple of extra wacks when they were on the ground. At some point, most people think it's excessive. We can't all be Police, where the rules of civility are null and void. ;)

[Brian4Liberty]

Ahhh the rose coloured lenses someone with no life experience in this regard holds.
...
NOPE. As soon as I let him up he cracked me in the nose again and within 20 secs I had 2 guys pulling my hair back exposing my chin as they yelled to their 3rd and 4th to "KICK HIS FACE IN".

They were animals, as were the people in the video.

[iGGz]

Think about these factors:

- He wasn't out looking for a fight. He wasn't "prepared".
- He's been taught his whole life not to hit a woman.
- He hit some of them and knocked them back, but didn't "finish them". Is that what you really think he should do?
- He did not know that there was a camera catching his side of the story.
- Without camera evidence, he would probably end up in jail, and charged with a hate crime for hitting those girls.
- And if the only part of this story was that a guy was beating woman, the outrage against him would be just as loud, if not louder.

1) Most people aren't out "looking for a fight" that doesn't mean you can't be "prepared."
2) So?
3) Yes.
4) So? I doubt he was thinking about that.
5) "Probably."
6) "If."

All I hear is a bunch of if this, if that BS. So after thinking about it, I agree with this:


If 4 woman for no reason came up and started beating on my woman - I would selectively over power the biggest of the woman and then stomp on her face. Watch how fast the other 3 back off as their friend shutters, cries and shakes violently in pain.

[Brian4Liberty]

At around 44 seconds and 1:33 in the video he had two of them down. So people are recommending that he continues stomping on their heads until they stopped moving?

As far as the value of the camera, if you notice when the Police arrive, one of the attacking girls runs up to the Police and starts pointed at the other people. Without that camera, it would have been "he said, she said'.

I guess my biggest point here is that what is so disturbing in these videos is hitting people when they are down.

[iGGz]

At around 44 seconds and 1:33 in the video he had two of them down. So people are recommending that he continues stomping on their heads until they stopped moving?

As far as the value of the camera, if you notice when the Police arrive, one of the attacking girls runs up to the Police and starts pointed at the other people. Without that camera, it would have been "he said, she said'.

I guess my biggest point here is that what is so disturbing in these videos is hitting people when they are down.

They were kicking the shit out of his girlfriend the ENTIRE TIME she was ON THE GROUND. I'm not necessarily saying he should "stomp on their heads until they stop moving," but 1 nice, HARD, swift kick to the face for each of them would have been alright. I'd feel ZERO remorse for them.

Don't f*** with me, I won't f*** with you ... you f*** with me, I'll f*** with you.

http://www.simpleasthat.com/img/asat-logo.gif

[Brian4Liberty]

They were kicking the shit out of his girlfriend the ENTIRE TIME she was ON THE GROUND.

Exactly.

[iGGz]

Exactly.

Exactly, they deserve the same. I'm glad you and I agree on something.

;)

[Brian4Liberty]

Why not another video, just for fun.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKSpnfyN6sI

[Indy Vidual]

You could imagine what the nation would look like when food shortages start happening. No wonder Thomas Jefferson didn't like cities very much:...

What food shortages? Why does RPF's always remind me of so much dark, cold reality?
What happened to "Hope For America?" :p

[Indy Vidual]

Any good places to re-settle to?

In America all (or most) big cities still have some suburbs that are very safe and quiet. Of course, it's a challenge to find many that are affordable.
Heading to "the backwoods" is much more fun, only if you have a lot of money to set-up properly. Large numbers of people don't have the option of "escaping in style".


Costa Rica is supposed to be nice.
Switzerland is beautiful and lets you in if you have lot's of money.
Uruguay recently made small amounts of Pot fully legal.
Some former Soviet states and territories (ie Poland?) have embraced a fair to sometimes amazing amount of economic (and political?) freedom, but there are still issues with extreme poverty, lack of "modern necessities", etc.
New Zealand has a pretty large libertarian movement, and some successful reduction in Gov.



Stay and fight for Das Vaterland!! :p

[truelies]

personally, it is amusing to see cops taken down. needs to happen musch more often. They deserve it. As to the little thuglets bothering a neighborhood. Dealing with them is what concealed carry is good for.

[Brian4Liberty]

Beating on someone when they are down. What caught my eye on this one? The name of the beater. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKbkcKnx_ro

[LibForestPaul]

I say it again, IF YOU GET IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS...CRACK THE MOTHER FUCKERS SKULL LIKE THE SAVAGE THEY ARE AND DONT FEEL A BIT OF GOD DAMN REMORSE.

YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSElF!!!

Please listen carefully to him. Until they are out cold or completely incapacitated (gunshot, head stomp, whatever) you continue to attack. You do not know:
1. All of your assailants
2. The threat of your assailants.
3. The limit to the threat of your assailants.

1. You may see two guys, you may be scuffling with two guys, but nothing says a third is not waiting somewhere in the dark with a crowbar waiting for a safe time to crack your skull.
2. You may see your assailant on the ground curled up in a ball. What you do not see is him reaching for his 38 snub nose in his baggy jeans.
3. You may believe your assailant to be prepared to stop after a broken jaw. But is he high on meth, is he on parole. Do you know?

4. When you see an opportunity to run, run quickly.