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SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 09:01 PM
Listen Here: http://stevedeace.com/steve-deace-live/

Tweet (@SteveDeaceShow):
"Tonight on the show...is Thomas Woods correct, should I endorse #Ron Paul? Call 877-655-6755 from 9-Midnight EST. http://www.tomwoods.com/steve/ "

Email: steve@stevedeace.com

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 09:02 PM
Call the man

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:03 PM
CALL HIM! He is going to get a ton of negative calls from SoCons, but he wants to remain relevant in Iowa. Dammit someone call.

I totally wish Ron did the interview now. "Sanoturm guy" :rolleyes:

Seriously, this guy has some pull with the Iowa SoCons.

trey4sports
12-06-2011, 09:05 PM
I hope Steve would endorse him, but I'm not holding my breath.

sailingaway
12-06-2011, 09:05 PM
I think he's not likely to from what he has said, but I see no reason he'd be hostile, either. I'd like him to, obviously. He is concerned about foreign policy, so make sure if you call and it comes up that you make it clear Ron would protect America.

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 09:05 PM
I hope so! You think out-of-state people should call?

Fermli
12-06-2011, 09:06 PM
There better be some damn good callers.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:07 PM
I hope so! You think out-of-state people should call?

Sure. Might make him realize the power of Paulites. Iowans are preferable though.

musicmax
12-06-2011, 09:07 PM
Why isn't Paul himself doing this interview?

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:07 PM
I think he's not likely to from what he has said, but I see no reason he'd be hostile, either. I'd like him to, obviously. He is concerned about foreign policy, so make sure if you call and it comes up that you make it clear Ron would protect America.

He loves Tom Woods. Maybe Tom should call in.

No Free Beer
12-06-2011, 09:08 PM
Iowans...

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

for force of freedom is with you

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:09 PM
Whos this guy?

GeorgiaAvenger
12-06-2011, 09:09 PM
Call.

And do not be rude for goodness sake!!! No cussing, no conspiracies, none of that.

Bring up that fact that Ron has the only abortion solution. (if you don't know it, research it)

And make this clear on foreign policy: Ron will protect us from imminent attack, Congress will decide if we go to war, Ron will make the Navy stronger and secure the border, Ron voted for SDI

And on Israel: Paul was one of the few to defend Israel in 1981 after they bombed Iraq

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:09 PM
"I'm confident this is the first time (my endorsement) has been solicited by someone smarter than me"

Come on guys. He's talking up Tom Woods again.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:10 PM
Whos this guy?

Influential Iowa evangelical.

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:10 PM
Ah oh, here we go.

Fermli
12-06-2011, 09:10 PM
good show so far. He's playing a long Tom Woods video over the air.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 09:12 PM
Are you guys listening?

I just emailed him at steve@stevedeace.com


DO IT.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 09:13 PM
I hope Steve would endorse him, but I'm not holding my breath.

He's asking for your opinion. Give it to him!

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 09:13 PM
Uh, the comments on the link above are weeks old?

GeorgiaAvenger
12-06-2011, 09:14 PM
http://stevedeace.com/news/iowa-politics/the-case-for-ron-paul-2/

SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 09:14 PM
Uh, the comments on the link above are weeks old?

Yes they are, but the show is live on the air in Iowa right now.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:14 PM
Uh, the comments on the link above are weeks old?

It's the live stream page. He's ASKING people ACROSS AMERICA to call in.

"Should I follow Tom's advice, should I endorse Ron Paul?"

GeorgiaAvenger
12-06-2011, 09:16 PM
Talking point: Ron Paul is the only candidate that has an abortion solution and wants to give marriage back to the church. Everyone else wants to tell Israel what to do.

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:16 PM
Appeal to emotion? It was fact based...

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 09:17 PM
Something weird with the live listening widget on his site.

Echoes
12-06-2011, 09:17 PM
Tom Woods is an exceptional communicator.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:17 PM
He's taking calls next. I hope some of you guys are calling in.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:18 PM
I hope so! You think out-of-state people should call?

Follow up: He said people across America should call in.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 09:19 PM
Something weird with the live listening widget on his site.

Try this:


http://www.talk920.com/

wgadget
12-06-2011, 09:20 PM
Follow up: He said people across America should call in.

He's also taking Tweets and emails.

The email address is: steve@stevedeace.com

lucent
12-06-2011, 09:20 PM
From my experience as a listener of Deace, it is best to argue from an economic point of view.

RestoreTheRepublic
12-06-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm pretty removed the local media in Iowa, so does this guy have a pretty big audience?

Is he well-known/does he have clout among the Republican electorate?

SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 09:22 PM
"He's crazy enought to do it."

HOLLYWOOD
12-06-2011, 09:24 PM
CTRL-ALT-DELETE

AlexG
12-06-2011, 09:29 PM
Is Ron Paul moral? lol he's the most moral guy running

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:30 PM
I'm pretty removed the local media in Iowa, so does this guy have a pretty big audience?

Is he well-known/does he have clout among the Republican electorate?

If he endorses, we win. <<< My prediction and opinion, not trying to make people complacent

Matthew Zak
12-06-2011, 09:30 PM
I emailed him.


His foreign policy is the most efficient in protecting America by concentrating it's purpose in defending this country and not acting as another nation's or organization's muscle. Furthermore, we need someone dependable in these dire times and Ron Paul is the most consistent and principled man who's run for president since the late 1700's. He's been married for 50 years, has raised generations of healthy and successful people, and has always been consistent in his voting record. If you could love someone you've never met, you would love Ron Paul. Thank you.

Matt, from MN.

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:31 PM
Is Ron Paul moral? lol he's the most moral guy running

So Steve spun that to mean that while he's consistent, is it a consistency that's moral... :(

Echoes
12-06-2011, 09:33 PM
Is Ron Paul moral? lol he's the most moral guy running

As if it's debatable...

HOLLYWOOD
12-06-2011, 09:33 PM
Chuck Baldwin Loves Ron Paul... enuff enuff

Have Chuck call in... now that would be "CRAFTY" ;)

AlexG
12-06-2011, 09:35 PM
Wait this guy is a social christian conservative and he has a "man-crush" on Tom Woods? He must be one of those "new, hip, edgy" christians

Echoes
12-06-2011, 09:35 PM
He's sweating Nullification, bigtime.

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:38 PM
Good question, 40%???

Fermli
12-06-2011, 09:39 PM
even if he doesn't endorse, spending so much of his radio show on this is good publicity.

AlexG
12-06-2011, 09:39 PM
I think this guy is leaning toward endorsing Ron Paul

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:39 PM
WTH???

SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 09:40 PM
Wait this guy is a social christian conservative and he has a "man-crush" on Tom Woods? He must be one of those "new, hip, edgy" christians

You'd have to listen to his past interviews with Tom Woods to understand truly why he likes him.

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:41 PM
You'd have to listen to his past interviews with Tom Woods to understand truly why he likes him.

So what do you think, is it gonna be RP?

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 09:41 PM
Good question, 40%??? That was me :) Did I sound good or stupid?

Kords21
12-06-2011, 09:41 PM
Just tuned in, has he said what the 40% that he seems to have a problem with is? I'm guessing foreign policy

lucent
12-06-2011, 09:42 PM
Deace wants big government solutions to abortion and gay marriage. Best to inform him that presidents do not sign constitutional amendments.

SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 09:42 PM
That was me :) Did I sound good or stupid?

+rep

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 09:42 PM
He just told me that he would get to exactly what that 40% is later in the show, because it's going to suck all the oxygen out of the room.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:42 PM
Just tuned in, has he said what the 40% that he seems to have a problem with is? I'm guessing foreign policy

Probably DADT, abortion, Israel and Iran.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 09:42 PM
I wonder if Deace has read "THE LAW" yet?

wgadget
12-06-2011, 09:43 PM
That was me :) Did I sound good or stupid?

You done good! Thanks, bro.

lucent
12-06-2011, 09:44 PM
Probably DADT, abortion, Israel and Iran.

DADT and abortion, I don't think he disagrees with Paul necessarily on Israel or Iran.

AlexG
12-06-2011, 09:44 PM
That was me :) Did I sound good or stupid?

You were great, you didn't come off as a Paul fanatic. You brought up some valid points about the others and basically left him with "Ron Paul is our only hope"

Echoes
12-06-2011, 09:44 PM
He just told me that he would get to exactly what that 40% is later in the show, because it's going to suck all the oxygen out of the room.

You did excellent. As did the previous 2 callers.

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:44 PM
That was me :) Did I sound good or stupid?

You sounded good.

I was Bobby, howd I sound?

Jovan Galtic
12-06-2011, 09:45 PM
My take - he already told Tom Woods he will endorse Ron Paul.

They are just making the show of it... :)

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:45 PM
DADT and abortion, I don't think he disagrees with Paul necessarily on Israel or Iran.

Definitely did when Doug Wead or Tom Woods was on.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:45 PM
My take - he already told Tom Woods he will endorse Ron Paul.

They are just making the show of it... :)

And some money. If that's the case, it's fine by me!

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:46 PM
Did RP "solicit" Tom Woods or has Tom gravitated to RP?

lucent
12-06-2011, 09:47 PM
Did RP "solicit" Tom Woods or has Tom gravitated to RP?

They are joking.

Kords21
12-06-2011, 09:47 PM
Woods is laying the smackdown!

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 09:48 PM
Thanks! I've listened to myself on the radio afterwards before and thought I sounded kind of stupid and used filler words (umm) too much.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 09:48 PM
And some money. If that's the case, it's fine by me!

That's what I emailed him: "Think of the ratings!"

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:49 PM
No stupid. States cant violate the Constitution.

AJ187
12-06-2011, 09:50 PM
Who the hell was that guy?

Fermli
12-06-2011, 09:50 PM
wow, first anti-Paul caller... quite the ignorant comments.


No stupid. States cant violate the Constitution.

the constitution does not apply to the states.

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 09:50 PM
You sounded good.

I was Bobby, howd I sound? Bobby.... which one were you? I only heard two callers because the widget was repeating on me.

SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 09:51 PM
I thought murder was a state law.

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 09:51 PM
I just tuned in, are they making fun of Ron Paul's support?

People better be calling in. I can't at the moment.

AlexG
12-06-2011, 09:51 PM
I dont think I've ever heard a radio show with so many commercials

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:52 PM
Need moar callers.

matt0611
12-06-2011, 09:52 PM
wow, first anti-Paul caller... quite the ignorant comments.



the constitution does not apply to the states.

There are parts in the constitution that say what states can't do...

States can't outlaw guns either.

So...it does apply to the states right?

I'm pretty sure all the amendments apply to the state governments as well the federal government.

lucent
12-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Someone want to tell him that the Constitution does not grant the presidency any enforcement powers and only gives Congress very limited enforcement powers.

TXcarlosTX
12-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Is the show still on? Ill call in from TEXAS! We dont play down here

Echoes
12-06-2011, 09:54 PM
That caller was right. If the federal govt isnt gonna intervene in stopping a massacre of innocent life, then there's fundamentally really no reason to have a federal govt (which im open to).

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Bobby.... which one were you? I only heard two callers because the widget was repeating on me.

I was the guy who said that we as an electorate have to judge politicians on actions not rhetoric. I didnt wanna call them liars, so the broad said it.

ord33
12-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Did that caller essentially say that Ron Paul wasn't strong on right to life? Even after Ron Paul introduced the Sanctity of Life Act which defines life as beginning at conception? Someone should bring this up to him on the air/e-mail in my opinion.

Maybe I misunderstood the caller though regarding what he was talking about on the 10th amendment?

Fermli
12-06-2011, 09:56 PM
BEST CALLER YET. THANK YOU THANK YOU!

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 09:56 PM
Nice job, Dave.

zHorns
12-06-2011, 09:56 PM
Awesome caller!

Kords21
12-06-2011, 09:57 PM
I like this Dave caller

TXcarlosTX
12-06-2011, 09:58 PM
what is the call in number!?! my audio isnt working.

MRoCkEd
12-06-2011, 09:59 PM
Current caller did a pretty good job.

zHorns
12-06-2011, 09:59 PM
Dave is my hero.

unknown
12-06-2011, 09:59 PM
what is the call in number!?! my audio isnt working.

877-655-6755

bluesc
12-06-2011, 09:59 PM
Here comes the DADT talk.

undergroundrr
12-06-2011, 09:59 PM
Last caller couldn't have been better.

Kords21
12-06-2011, 09:59 PM
Another commercial break? This is worse than Hannity as far as breaks go and that's saying something

pauliticalfan
12-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Major props to that last caller, whoever you are. Fantastic.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Dave are you here? I love you.

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Dave here...thanks guys.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Dang, this society needs to become reacquainted with the Common Law theories.

1. I will do all that I agree to do.
2. I will not encroach on other people or their property.

It's really pretty simple.

sailingaway
12-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Probably DADT, abortion, Israel and Iran.

there is no one more pro life than Ron, and Ron's solution vis a vis Iran is the right one.

Polskash
12-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Mr. Deace,

I'll keep this sweet and to the point.

-Ron Paul has been married to his wife for over 50 years. He is a humble Christian man who demonstrates character of the highest order. He is a personal role model of mine and for many others.

-Ron Paul follows in Christ's footsteps in opposing the use of coercion to solve moral problems such as gambling, drug abuse, and prostitution. Christ routinely dealt with these people during his ministry and never once attempted to save anyone through force. Only a fallible human race would presume to think that it could make immoral people moral through violence when the only infallible person to have ever lived never did even attempted to do so.

-Ron Paul's experience as an obstetrician who delivered 4,000+ babies speaks for itself. Ron Paul has the wisdom to understand that the abortion problem in this country (and around the world for that matter) is, at the root, a problem of godlessness and immorality.

-Ron Paul opposes the notion that marriage even falls under the purview of earthly governments. It is long overdue that the institution of marriage be restored as a covenant between a man, woman, and God and not a contract between a man, woman, and the State (or a man, man, and the State, or possibly a man, animal, and the State in the future). The tax code needs to be abolished in its entirety but the codes dealing with marriage need to be eliminated immediately. Other arrangements, such as guardianship in emergency medical situations, need to be handled through private arrangements.

I and many others support Ron Paul because it's the right thing to do. For Christians who adhere to natural rights ethics (as given to us by God), there are no other considerations that matter.

Kind Regards,

Peter

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:01 PM
People who aren't calling in, email him!

Does this Steve Deace guy have that much influence in Iowa?

wgadget
12-06-2011, 10:01 PM
Dave here...thanks guys.

You're awesome!

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:01 PM
there is no one more pro life than Ron, and Ron's solution vis a vis Iran is the right one.

Tell Deace that!

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 10:01 PM
How can he be pro-nullification and anti-tenth amendment? Does not compute.

Anyway, the last one I heard (I think it's close to live now) brought up that his issue with Paul is the Life issue, because he's a 10th Amendment guy, and if you live by the 10 Am. sword, you die by the 10th Am. sword. That was the main point.

So I think the good point to bring up in reply to this would be "Ron Paul is the ONLY one who was actually presented and sincerely tried to repeal Roe vs. Wade. He's the ONLY one who has done anything REAL in regards to being pro-life for the last 30 years. Everyone gives good speeches about how pro-life they are, but where's the results? Abortion is still legal. With Ron Paul's bill, states will be able to ban abortion, without having to go through some decades-long process" Somehow maybe you'd have to make it shorter.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:01 PM
Dave here...thanks guys.

You're an awesome person.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 10:02 PM
I hope someone brings up the Christian Just War theory, if he wants to argue about Iran.

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:03 PM
Dave here...thanks guys.

+rep

RDM
12-06-2011, 10:03 PM
People who aren't calling in, email him!

Does this Steve Deace guy have that much influence in Iowa?

Very much. His listening audience is about 2/3 of the state.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:03 PM
Dave here...thanks guys.

I was thinkin how I would have responded. I woulda gotten tripped up on the whole God, freedom, DADT.

Man, I need to hear it again. :( I need to get my rhetoric down.

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Very much. His listening audience is about 2/3 of the state.

Iowa must not have TV

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Iowa must not have TV

Iowa must have a lot of SoCons. He has a lot of influence.

rideurlightning
12-06-2011, 10:05 PM
There are parts in the constitution that say what states can't do...

States can't outlaw guns either.

So...it does apply to the states right?

I'm pretty sure all the amendments apply to the state governments as well the federal government.

Originally, the Bill of Rights did not apply to the states. Each state had their own. See Baron V. Baltimore. But yeah, the Civil War Amendments fucked everything over.

MRoCkEd
12-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Know your audience. This is an evangelical, pro-life, pro-Israel show. Dave did a good job with that.

My one criticism is the remark about sending missiles into Iran. Probably best to avoid controversial areas like foreign policy, and focus on where this guy really agrees with Ron.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:07 PM
Airing Romney's dirt, nice.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:07 PM
Wow, this guy hates Romney, huh?

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:08 PM
Huckabee? Mannn, come on.

Bruno
12-06-2011, 10:08 PM
Huckster? Hmmm....

Kords21
12-06-2011, 10:08 PM
I somehow doubt that Huckabee will be pushing for a Ron Paul endorsement

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:08 PM
Huckabee? Mannn, come on.

He's gonna bash Ron hard. Probably heard this and called in to do exactly that.

matt0611
12-06-2011, 10:08 PM
Who does Deace currently support? Santorum?

RDM
12-06-2011, 10:09 PM
Iowa must not have TV

What I meant to say is 2/3 of the state can tune into his show because they are in coverage area. Not saying everyone listens but he has huge following.

wgadget
12-06-2011, 10:09 PM
Don't forget that GOD HIMSELF gave us free choice. Having the government enforcing our "free choice" at the point of a gun is not really freedom.

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:09 PM
Probably best to avoid controversial areas like foreign policy, and focus on where this guy really agrees with Ron.

Yeh, I thought about that, but I felt it to be somewhat pre-emptive (how ironic is that), as I think the whole Iran thing is in his 40%. I wanted to use it as an example of it not being ok to do what God hasn't given us the right to do. Thanks for comment.

Bruno
12-06-2011, 10:09 PM
Tom Woods - True Patriot

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:10 PM
Is Huckabee calling in tonight? Or is that for a later segment?

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:10 PM
Is Huckabee calling in tonight? Or is that for a later segment?

Tonight. He probably wanted to bash Ron to prevent the endorsement.

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:11 PM
Tonight. He probably wanted to bash Ron to prevent the endorsement.

Right. I just wanted to make sure I heard that right. Let's just sit back and listen.

In the meantime, thank you, Tom!

Kords21
12-06-2011, 10:11 PM
Huckabee is going to come out with guns blazing, he has to try to stop the Paulmentum in Iowa

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 10:12 PM
I was the guy who said that we as an electorate have to judge politicians on actions not rhetoric. I didnt wanna call them liars, so the broad said it. Oh yeah! I did hear you. You did really well, and gave them something to laugh about.

"For a long time, the politicians have been doing something traditionally known as......"

"Lying?"

Ha, ha, ha!

tsetsefly
12-06-2011, 10:12 PM
Did he endorse Paul? im too lazy to read all 13 pages...

Bruno
12-06-2011, 10:12 PM
Do the right thing, Steve!

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:12 PM
He's gonna bash Ron hard. Probably heard this and called in to do exactly that.

ikr

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:13 PM
Did he endorse Paul? im too lazy to read all 13 pages...

Not yet. People are calling in trying to push for the endorsement. However, Huckabee is supposed to be on sometime soon.

TXcarlosTX
12-06-2011, 10:13 PM
877-655-6755

gracias!

steve7
12-06-2011, 10:13 PM
I sent him two emails. One letting him know to endorse Ron Paul and that I a veteran. Another with the picture of the group of marines deployed in afghanistan wearing veterans for ron paul tshirts.

sailingaway
12-06-2011, 10:13 PM
He's gonna bash Ron hard. Probably heard this and called in to do exactly that.

What he has been doing is calling Ron 'libertarian' implying but not saying that he is libertine, which is incredible when you know Ron's personal history. Then he calls MB and S the 'real conservatives'. But even though Deace was a huge force behind Huck's win, I'm not sure that influence goes the other way, now that there is a different slate of candidates. Honestly, Huck doesn't have nearly the economic credentials Ron does.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:14 PM
What he has been doing is calling Ron 'libertarian' implying but not saying that he is libertine, which is incredible when you know Ron's personal history. Then he calls MB and S the 'real conservatives'. But even though Deace was a huge force behind Huck's win, I'm not sure that influence goes the other way, now that there is a different slate of candidates. Honestly, Huck doesn't have nearly the economic credentials Ron does.

Huck has the influence over Deace's audience though. He'll be able to pressure him out of it.

Feeding the Abscess
12-06-2011, 10:14 PM
I'd like to amend my previous post.

Snaggletooth is going to say that Ron Paul is a LibAtarian running as a Republican.

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:15 PM
I sent him two emails. One letting him know to endorse Ron Paul and that I a veteran. Another with the picture of the group of marines deployed in afghanistan wearing veterans for ron paul tshirts.

I sent an email with a few points and a link to the "Christian Just War Theory" link.

steve7
12-06-2011, 10:15 PM
Did he endorse Ron Paul? I sent him two emails.

specsaregood
12-06-2011, 10:15 PM
@SteveDeaceShow#RonPaul has swayed more young people to the pro-life cause than any other politician in my lifetime.

McChronagle
12-06-2011, 10:15 PM
am i listening to a delayed stream? or did they just discuss abortion with caleb

TXcarlosTX
12-06-2011, 10:17 PM
im on hold. i hope i dont fuck it up

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:17 PM
Theological questions? ouch let's stay away from that

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:17 PM
am i listening to a delayed stream? or did they just discuss abortion with caleb

Live. A few of us just called in.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:17 PM
im on hold. i hope i dont fuck it up

Good luck dude!

4000 babies! No abortions! Worked for church hospital!

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:17 PM
am i listening to a delayed stream? or did they just discuss abortion with caleb

You have to refresh your browser or its gonna repeat.

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:18 PM
am i listening to a delayed stream? or did they just discuss abortion with caleb

"Owen" just finished.


im on hold. i hope i dont fuck it up

Don't be nervous, you're going to do great! Just watch out for the religious "gotcha" questions that this Deace guy is trying to pin on some people.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:18 PM
im on hold. i hope i dont fuck it up

Stick to what you know. I get lost on constitutional/states/God. :(

Steve seems to have some knowledge. Wheres Tiom Woods?

Whys he like Tom Woods so much?

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 10:19 PM
I must still be behind, I'm just barely getting to Dave...

Yes, Dave, nice calm voice. Jen is helping out with the point about giving more aid to their enemies. Good job knowing the exact figures, Dave (7 billion, 10 billion), that's impressive. So the Israel Point was won, I'd say. After that Deace was pretty tough on Dave, asking him unexpected questions veering off this way and that, but he held it together.

Canderson
12-06-2011, 10:19 PM
im on hold. i hope i dont fuck it up

most military donations!!!!!

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:19 PM
most military donations!!!!!

THIS. More than all other candidates, and Obama put together.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Use the term "foreign welfare". Do it!!!

Canderson
12-06-2011, 10:20 PM
supported israel by condemning the congress which passed a vote of condemnation against israel for bombing iraq in 1981

TXcarlosTX
12-06-2011, 10:20 PM
I'm doing philosophy vs the status qou

steve7
12-06-2011, 10:20 PM
All I hear are commercial ads.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:21 PM
I'm doing philosophy vs the status qou

If he moves to Israel or abortion.. Israel state-funded abortions, and we subsidize it.

specsaregood
12-06-2011, 10:21 PM
Use the term "foreign welfare". Do it!!!

you mean us taxpayer money funding abortions in israel?

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:21 PM
im on hold. i hope i dont fuck it up

Relax and speak from the heart. Just talk about what you know. Don't be like Ron and try to cram too much in!

TXcarlosTX
12-06-2011, 10:22 PM
fuck!!! its a bunch of church stuff. im going to get killed!!!! ehhhh

Canderson
12-06-2011, 10:22 PM
im on hold. i hope i dont fuck it up

you cant legislate morality. Those who act immorally will be punished by god and fate, not the government

specsaregood
12-06-2011, 10:22 PM
If he moves to Israel or abortion.. Israel state-funded abortions, and we subsidize it.

bingo, every woman in israel is guaranteed a free or inexpensive abortion if they meet any 1 of 4 criteria. and we help fund it with our foreign aid.

Canderson
12-06-2011, 10:23 PM
fuck!!! its a bunch of church stuff. im going to get killed!!!! ehhhh

you cant legislate morality, immortality will be punished by fate and god, not by government

Canderson
12-06-2011, 10:23 PM
you mean us taxpayer money funding abortions in israel?

SAY THIS

matt0611
12-06-2011, 10:24 PM
you cant legislate morality, immortality will be punished by fate and god, not by government

Yeah, this is good.

pauliticalfan
12-06-2011, 10:24 PM
If you don't think he'll like what you have to say, maybe don't reference RP explicitly?

pauliticalfan
12-06-2011, 10:25 PM
Ugh.

MRoCkEd
12-06-2011, 10:25 PM
fuck!!! its a bunch of church stuff. im going to get killed!!!! ehhhh
Do NOT argue from a non-religious perspective, please! That's his problem with Ron Paul and libertarians! You need to make a Christian, biblical case for Ron Paul.

"You can't legislate morality" is a bad approach!

(PS: Good luck :p)

specsaregood
12-06-2011, 10:26 PM
SAY THIS

Source:
hxxp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Health/abort1.html


A 1977 law ensures a low-cost, and in some cases free, legal abortion to any woman who fills one of four criteria:

She is under 18 or over 40 (cost to those in between: 1,500 shekels [$370]).

She is carrying a fetus with a serious mental or physical defect (free).

She claims that the fetus results from forbidden relations such as rape or incest (free) or, in the case of a married woman, that the baby is not her husband's (not free). Single women also fall under this clause, and they too must pay.

She shows that by continuing the pregnancy, her physical or mental health would be damaged (free).

In 1980, a fifth criterion that allowed abortions for women living in economic hardship was abolished due to pressure from religious political parties

sailingaway
12-06-2011, 10:26 PM
People who aren't socially conservative might not be the best ones to call in.

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 10:26 PM
Oh man, I should have talked about abortion after all. I hope someone can win the abortion point by the end. Ron Paul is STRONGLY PRO-LIFE. He's just not thinking rationally. I would ask: what pro-life actions would any of the candidates take which Ron Paul would not? There are no such actions!

lucent
12-06-2011, 10:26 PM
Ask him if he wants a world government to ban abortion in Israel.

TomtheTinker
12-06-2011, 10:26 PM
prediction:There will be no endorsement from this guy.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:27 PM
This guy's pro war?

pauliticalfan
12-06-2011, 10:27 PM
Jesus and Ayn Rand? Are you kidding me?

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:27 PM
If he brings up abortion, bring up Dr. Paul's experience in the hospital room. You should hopefully know what I am talking about.

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:27 PM
@SteveDease;Libertarianism is not 'no gov't'-that's anarchism. Gov't's job is to protect our right of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness

pauliticalfan
12-06-2011, 10:28 PM
Yeah, no endorsement from this guy.

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:28 PM
Oh boy here's the all muslims are evil rant

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 10:28 PM
We have crashed his live player!

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:28 PM
Yeah, no endorsement from this guy.

Yep... Here we go with homosexuality now.

Shane Harris
12-06-2011, 10:28 PM
prediction:There will be no endorsement from this guy.

yep. pronounced "lost cause". he said every government is a theocracy. and that government must reward good and punish evil, someone tell him to read "the law"

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:28 PM
I would like to hear the tape of that.

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
This guy's pro war?

As is most of the evangelical church. Sometimes I'm embarrassed be part of it.

Kords21
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
I would be surprised if this guy endorses Paul. This just sounds like he's justifying why he's not going to endorse Paul.

TXcarlosTX
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
they ran out of time, mike huck is next. at least they told me i wasnt going to make it

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
OK, we're done.

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Game plan now?

Never mind, Huckabee is on next.

Well, email and Twitter this guy with Ron's religious stand points!

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Yeah, no endorsement from this guy.

He already said that there's 40% were he disagreed, I dont think he would spend all this time talking about Ron Paul just not to endorse him. I think he's going to listen to Huckabee but still endorse Paul

matt0611
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
There's no way he's endorsing Paul guys...

TomtheTinker
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Rand Paul needs to call in..or doug weed.

LibertyEsq
12-06-2011, 10:30 PM
Might have been a mistake to have people call in unprepared.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:30 PM
Rand Paul needs to call in..or doug weed.

Doug Wead wasn't great when he was on the show. Tom should.

SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 10:30 PM
He needs to read this http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/government-plays-social-conservatives-like-a-fiddle/

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:30 PM
I swear if Huckabee trashes Ron there will be hell

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:31 PM
I swear if Huckabee trashes Ron there will be hell

Of course he will.

Kords21
12-06-2011, 10:31 PM
The only reason the Mullah's stay in power in Iran is because they can use the US as a rallying point for thier people. If the US said "Okay Iran, you got oil, we'll buy it, do what you want", I think the mullah's power would crumble overnight. Our foreign policy keeps us hated and our enemies in power.

HOLLYWOOD
12-06-2011, 10:31 PM
Rand Paul needs to call in..or doug weed.Chuck Baldwin needed to call in...

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:31 PM
I swear if Huckabee trashes Ron there will be hell

We can't act in the manner they will be expecting.

Let's take it in stride.

AJ187
12-06-2011, 10:31 PM
I didn't realize war was such a pillar of Christianity. What a waste of time.....

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:32 PM
Don't think they are not watching this thread.

lucent
12-06-2011, 10:32 PM
His premise is wrong. He buys into the propaganda. They dont hate us "for our freedoms". Come on man.

Now F*ckabee...

He's not saying that all. He is saying they hate us because we aren't Muslims.

ord33
12-06-2011, 10:33 PM
In response to Steve Deace's comments about DADT and homosexuality I wrote this in an e-mail:



Hi Steve,

I’m really enjoying the show so far.

I would like to make a follow up comment if I may regarding the last caller when you asked him about repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. You may have noticed that he mentioned the Senate already voted (93-7) to allow such despicable acts such as beastiality in Senate Bill 1867.

This was part of a bigger bill that had at its core the ability for the government to detain US citizens on US soil for “suspicion of terrorist activities” without a right to a trial, any evidence being shown, and be held indefinitely. In the Republicans (and Democrats) haste to push through this legislation they failed to realize there was a provision in the bill that repeals Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) which: not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.

Senator Rand Paul was one of only 3 Republicans voting against this bill – the others being Tom Coburn and Mike Lee. I have no doubt that Ron Paul would have voted the same way – as he as already spoken out against the bill.

Below is a link regarding the topic.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-military

It is essential this does NOT pass the House and become law.

Finally, I’d like to say that I think you should endorse Ron Paul. However, it definitely isn’t my place to say what you should or shouldn’t do! I think you should do more research on Ron Paul and if you feel confident with his positions, policies, and morals then make your decision. I am confident based on our Christian values that you and I will come to the same conclusion.

Thanks very much for taking the time to discuss at length Ron Paul on your show!

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:33 PM
He's not saying that all. He is saying they hate us because we aren't Muslims.

Same thing.

matt0611
12-06-2011, 10:33 PM
Chuck Baldwin needed to call in...

This.

TomtheTinker
12-06-2011, 10:34 PM
Chuck Baldwin needed to call in...

Yea...+1 to that

Bama Boy
12-06-2011, 10:34 PM
Santorum endorsement wouldn't hurt us. Split up newts vote more

Bruno
12-06-2011, 10:34 PM
40%? Really? You weight those issues that heavily?

1) Ron Paul would go to war with Iran if the Congress authorized it or we were attacked.

2) Why do you care if Ron Paul thinks homosexuality is a sin as the President of the United States? What are you looking to do to homosexuals that you need a Presidential authority to do?

Echoes
12-06-2011, 10:35 PM
Hucks gonna trash ron.

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:35 PM
Hucks gonna trash ron.

Don't listen.

RDM
12-06-2011, 10:36 PM
Might have been a mistake to have people call in unprepared.

It's always a mistake. I wish people would understand their weakness and strength when calling into these shows and not do it without being prepared. Does more harm than good.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:36 PM
He's not saying that all. He is saying they hate us because we aren't Muslims.

Either way he's wrong. Theres no reason why we cant trade and dialogue in peace...

Bruno
12-06-2011, 10:36 PM
Hucks gonna trash ron.

Yeah, as someone said earlier, this was almost a set up for the inevitable decision he has already made.

And I'm leaning towards, "I'm going to vote for a war monger who hates gays instead."

Canderson
12-06-2011, 10:36 PM
If I had long distance on my phone plan Id call in now that the segments over and say:

"Hi Steve, I just wanted to call in and tell you thank you for discussing him seriously. Its nice to see someone in the media address Paul rather than ignore or immediately write him off. Thank you for the substantive discussion."

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:37 PM
In response to Steve Deace's comments about DADT and homosexuality I wrote this in an e-mail:

+rep

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 10:37 PM
No, there were no real mistakes made. I basically knew what he disagreed with Paul on (he played the homosexuality is not a sin clip when Tom Woods was on last time) but I figured I'd "build on common beliefs". Should have attacked right to the heart of the abortion/homosexuality/etc. issues. Because he just is not thinking clearly. What pro-gay actions would Ron Paul take as President? What pro-abortion actions would Ron Paul take? There just are no such actions. He'd be as pro-life, pro-traditional values, pro-family, as any candidate, and I would say much more so! He wouldn't just be satisfied to say "oh, I'll appoint some good justices to the Supreme Court.... IF any retire.... and then MAYBE, in 20 YEARS they'll overturn Roe vs. Wade" like every other supposedly pro-life FAKE since the 60s. He would actually do something pro-active to stop abortions immediately, via pushing his remove-the-jurisdiction act.

He just isn't thinking about the reality of what being president actually entails.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:38 PM
TPTB woke Huckabee up to have him call in. This thread probably alerted them. :(

matt0611
12-06-2011, 10:39 PM
I still don't get what his problem with Ron Paul is.

Does he want to outlaw homosexuality? If so, I don't see what his point is.

Ron is pro-life and is open to a constitutional amendment defining life at conception. So I don't see what his problem is here either.

Is it the non-interventionism? Does he just want to war on the whole religion of Islam? I don't get it...

TomtheTinker
12-06-2011, 10:40 PM
So basically this guy believes Christians should be in a constant state of war with Muslims because in his mind they(Muslims) want to replace anybody different. As if every little Muslim worker bee wakes up in the morning with the goal to destroy groups of people they have never even seen before.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:40 PM
Wish God would send down a bolt of lightning at this dude for the commercials alone.

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:41 PM
More abortions than ever??? Abortions are legal now thanks to Roe vs Wade! WTH is he talking about. Come on Huckster, make some sense when you speak.

pauliticalfan
12-06-2011, 10:41 PM
Huckabee about to talk about the candidates and his forum. Oh boy.

specsaregood
12-06-2011, 10:41 PM
I still don't get what his problem with Ron Paul is.
Does he want to outlaw homosexuality? If so, I don't see what his point is.


I suppose he thinks there needs to be a law against it otherwise he might be unable to resist the temptation to try it. That is all I can figure; but it is confusing. I know I don't need a law to keep me from doing it.

RDM
12-06-2011, 10:41 PM
How can you be pro life and blow up innocent babies with drones over someone's religious beliefs if there is no imminent attack or threat?

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:42 PM
How would getting rid of Roe v Wade be worse? It legalized abortions...

WTF is Huckabee babbling about?

malkusm
12-06-2011, 10:43 PM
40%? Really? You weight those issues that heavily?

1) Ron Paul would go to war with Iran if the Congress authorized it or we were attacked.

2) Why do you care if Ron Paul thinks homosexuality is a sin as the President of the United States? What are you looking to do to homosexuals that you need a Presidential authority to do?

Plus. Freaking. Rep.

Echoes
12-06-2011, 10:44 PM
How can you be pro life and blow up innocent babies with drones over someone's religious beliefs if there is no imminent attack or threat?

The world is full of hypocrites, mainline republicans lead the pack.

specsaregood
12-06-2011, 10:44 PM
How would getting rid of Roe v Wade be worse? It legalized abortions...
WTF is Huckabee babbling about?

If you removed the abortion argument from the federal level, all those so-called pro-life politicians and organizations wouldn't be able to fundraise as effectively. So ya know, it would be worse for those guys.

Tod
12-06-2011, 10:48 PM
It sounds like Steve wants the US to be a theocracy, not understanding that if you create a theocracy, the people in control WILL force THEIR beliefs on people and it won't take long before Steve finds himself living under a religious tyranny that doesn't share his particular religious views.

THAT is something that the founding fathers understood.

malkusm
12-06-2011, 10:48 PM
How can you be pro life and blow up innocent babies with drones over someone's religious beliefs if there is no imminent attack or threat?

Someone should make a T-shirt which on the front says:

100% Pro-Life

And on the back says:

=
50% Anti-Abortion
50% Anti-War

evadmurd
12-06-2011, 10:48 PM
Too bad this has turned into a Huckster-fest.

unknown
12-06-2011, 10:48 PM
"Gotcha" questions. Whatever. A "gotcha" question is one that exposes Newt's lies and flip-flops.

helmuth_hubener
12-06-2011, 10:48 PM
I still don't get what his problem with Ron Paul is.

Does he want to outlaw homosexuality? If so, I don't see what his point is.

Ron is pro-life and is open to a constitutional amendment defining life at conception. So I don't see what his problem is here either.

Is it the non-interventionism? Does he just want to war on the whole religion of Islam? I don't get it... Yes, of course he wants to outlaw homosexuality. The thing is, it's already illegal on a state level, and Ron Paul as President would take the let-Iowa-jail-gays-if-they-want position. So what's the problem?

And as you say, Paul would be OK with the amendment, but more importantly the President is irrelevant to a constitutional amendment anyway! So again, what's the problem?

There is no problem. Ron Paul will accomplish actual results for his agenda better than anyone. But Deace actually doesn't care so much about that. What's the problem? Paul doesn't give him the right rhetoric. Paul doesn't spew forth the correct talking points and rhetoric and actively promote Christianity by wearing his religion on his sleeve. Deace cares more about the posturing, the speeches, and the overall image of the candidate than the actual results in policy and culture. That's it. He values talk over walk, words over reality.

Inkblots
12-06-2011, 10:50 PM
So, were there many good callers? I don't really have time to read 24 pages, but skimming through I saw some mentions of people being unprepared or trying to argue for Ron's positions from a secular point to an evangelical audience.

I wish I'd know this was happening, I would have liked to take a crack at calling in. There are a lot of great arguments for Ron from a Biblical and Scholastic perspective.

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:50 PM
Mitt Romney, consistent? LMAO

Fermli
12-06-2011, 10:50 PM
You're damn right, we're devoted!

LibertyEsq
12-06-2011, 10:50 PM
"devoted followers" Huckabee didn't rip Ron and he had a chance. I don't think Huck is such a bad guy, he just doesn't agree with Ron on everything

he even ripped Perry

hammy
12-06-2011, 10:50 PM
Huckabee just said Mitt Romney was CONSISTENT?

Okie RP fan
12-06-2011, 10:51 PM
Ron Paul: "Devoted followers."

For Mitt Romney: "Consistent" as in consistent in his campaign...

Santorum and Bachmann getting major props...

bluesc
12-06-2011, 10:51 PM
Huckabee just said Mitt Romney was CONSISTENT?

The people of Iowa disagree. It's fine. Deace HATES Romney, apparently.

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:51 PM
Rick Perry: "Nice try bud.." lol

SchleckBros
12-06-2011, 10:51 PM
OMG. They're playing word association and these are the Hucksters answers...

Ron Paul - devoted followers

Mitt Romney - consistent


The one word he uses to describe Romney is consistent :rolleyes:

LibertyEsq
12-06-2011, 10:51 PM
he meant consistent in terms of polling

RestoreTheRepublic
12-06-2011, 10:52 PM
Yeah he said consistent for Mitt in terms of poll numbers, not in convictions

ord33
12-06-2011, 10:52 PM
Devoted followers - Huckabee on Ron Paul. Could have been much worse!

Said of Gingrich: "Surging" Romney: "Consistency (in polling) Perry: "Nice try" Bachmann: "Underestimated" Huntsman - I can't remember exactly but essentially meant no chance in the world.

AJ187
12-06-2011, 10:52 PM
Huckabee just said Mitt Romney was CONSISTENT?

His consistency is his inconsistency.

Bruno
12-06-2011, 10:52 PM
"Devoted followers"??? Huck, you suck.

And Bachmann gets "underestimated"?

Yeah, right! Overestimated. She has plummeted since her Randy Travis win.

hammy
12-06-2011, 10:53 PM
Man I should've called in... dang it. I really thought someone was going to bring up Matthew 5:9 and the just war theory. And nobody mentioned the military donations?

AlexG
12-06-2011, 10:53 PM
Devoted followers - Huckabee on Ron Paul. Could have been much worse!

Said of Gingrich: "Surging" Romney: "Consistency (in polling) Perry: "Nice try" Bachmann: "Underestimated" Huntsman - I can't remember exactly but essentially meant no chance in the world.

Jon Huntsman: "Might as well go home"

Inkblots
12-06-2011, 10:53 PM
"Devoted followers"??? Huck, you suck.

What? That's not insulting, it's true! No need to be rude...