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jmdrake
11-07-2007, 10:16 AM
I mentioned this in the "Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani" thread, but I felt it deserved a thread of its own. It is NO SURPRISE to me that Pat Robertson endorsed Giuliani. They both agree on the war in Iraq, going to war in Iran, killing Hugo Chavez (well I haven't heard Rudy endorse that one yet, but give him time) and abortion. Well...again Rudy isn't as bad as Pat Robertson. Rudy endorse the "pro choice" position. Pat Robertson has taken the position that forced abortion is an appropriate government position in certain circumstances! He defended China's use of forced abortion to enforce its one child policy! But don't take my word for it, read his.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0104/16/wbr.00.html

BLITZER: How do you balance your historic support for closer relation with China, improved trade relations with China, with what many conservatives complain about, specifically the so-called forced abortions in China?

ROBERTSON: Well, you know, I don't agree with it. But at the same time, they've got 1.2 billion people, and they don't know what to do. If every family over there was allowed to have three or four children, the population would be completely unsustainable.

Right now, they run the risk of a tremendous unemployment. There are some antiquated factories that the government owns that have to be shut down that is going to put hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people out of work. And the leadership is like on a teeter-totter board, they can fall off if the population gets too restive.

So, I think that right now they're doing what they have to do. I don't agree with the forced abortion, but I don't think the United States needs to interfere with what they're doing internally in this regard.

BLITZER: But in effect, won't your critics on the right be saying that Pat Robertson is justifying abortions in China?

ROBERTSON: Well, I just think they need to get involved in what's happening.

But I'll tell you what the Chinese are doing, and it's going to be a demographic catastrophe. When they're having abortions, they're picking the girl babies for the slaughter, and they're allowing only the males to be born. And in another, say, 10 or 20 years, there's going to be a critical shortage of wives. The young men won't have any women to marry, so it will, in a sense, dilute the -- what they consider the racial purity of the Han Chinese.

And that to them will be a great tragedy, because then they will have to be importing wives from Indonesia and others countries in order to fill up the population.

I have to thank the Alex Jones show for alerting me to this. I thought he was making it up until I did my own research and found out that, yet again, he was right on the money! Pat Robertson is a disgusting individual and I am OH SO GLAD that he's endorse Giuliani over Dr. Paul or anyone else! Get this article out to all of your evangelical friends. Some of the people leading them are NOT Christian!

Regards,

John M. Drake

F3d
11-07-2007, 10:20 AM
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FrankRep
11-07-2007, 10:23 AM
Pat Robertson Backs Giuliani's Bid

Nov 7


Shortly after 9/11, Robertson released a statement in which he said the attacks occurred because Americans had insulted God and lost the protection of heaven by allowing abortion and "rampant Internet pornography."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071107/D8SOTN7G1.html

Matt Collins
11-07-2007, 01:20 PM
We need to spread this message as " Pat Robertson supports FORCED abortion!" FAR AND WIDE!!!

Grandson of Liberty
11-07-2007, 01:23 PM
Umm. . . "I don't agree with it. . .I don't agree with the forced abortion. . .it's going to be a demographic catastrophe"

I don't match these statements up with your thread title

Duckman
11-07-2007, 01:28 PM
Yeah, it seems Robertson is more of a "forced abortion apologist" than a "forced abortion supporter", but it's still kind of disgusting.

Paulitician
11-07-2007, 01:29 PM
Man, they're getting desperate.

DaronWestbrooke
11-07-2007, 01:29 PM
Sounds like he is supporting their freedom to run their own country and for us to keep our nose out of it.

Why is he supporting a war monger who wants us to shove our nose in other country's business?

lawdida
11-07-2007, 01:39 PM
Sounds like he is supporting their freedom to run their own country and for us to keep our nose out of it.

Why is he supporting a war monger who wants us to shove our nose in other country's business?

yeah, that quote makes it sound like he is a noninterventionist.

d991
11-07-2007, 01:52 PM
Forced abortion enabler is a better title for Robertson.

jmdrake
11-07-2007, 04:11 PM
Umm. . . "I don't agree with it. . .I don't agree with the forced abortion. . .it's going to be a demographic catastrophe"

I don't match these statements up with your thread title

That's because you snipped out the rest of the statement.

But at the same time, they've got 1.2 billion people, and they don't know what to do.

That's like someone saying "I don't agree with war...but after 9/11 what were we supposed to do?" Or "I don't agree with giving drivers licenses to illegal immigrants...but what else can Elliot Spitzer do other than to give dirvers licenses to illegal immigrants?" Making lame excuses for something = supporting it!

Regards,

John M. Drake

jmdrake
11-07-2007, 04:17 PM
Sounds like he is supporting their freedom to run their own country and for us to keep our nose out of it.

Why is he supporting a war monger who wants us to shove our nose in other country's business?

Because his position has NOTHING to do with supporting "their freedom to run their own country"! Read it again. The excuse he gave for forced abortion is because China has a large population. In other words he's part of the same population control agenda as abortion supporters worldwide! Look at the blatant hypocrisy. China can have forced abortion because it's inconvenient, but some poor high school girl can't abort her baby because it's "murder" despite the lack of convenience? Also remember that Pat Robertson is the same man that advocated assassinating Hugo Chavez. Does that sound like a man who supports "freedom" for others to "run their own country"? Is Pat Robertson all of a sudden going to come out against the embargo against Cuba?

The reason Pat Robertson supports forced abortion in China is because he has MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN CHINA!

Please read:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5339-2001Nov9

Pat Robertson and His Business Buddies

By Colbert I. King
Saturday, November 10, 2001; Page A27

Joseph Mathews is Pat Robertson's point man in a Liberian mining venture called Freedom Gold Limited. Mathews doesn't much care for what has appeared in this column about his boss's business dealings in Liberia, so he's trying to put a little distance between the televangelist and that West African nation's strongman, Charles Taylor.

Wrote Mathews in a fax sent from Freedom Gold's headquarters in Virginia Beach last week: "Dr. Robertson has no more of a relationship with President Taylor than any foreign business investor in the United States can be said to have with President Bush."
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Oh, really?

Let's see. Has President Bush -- or any American president, for that matter -- personally signed an agreement with a foreign mining company that gives his administration a 10 percent equity interest in the investment with a right to purchase at least 15 percent of the shares after the exploration period? Have I missed something?

This much is known, however, based primarily on information obtained from Freedom Gold Limited. Pat Robertson did learn about the gold mining investment opportunity from a visiting Liberian delegation. Robertson did subsequently create the for-profit Freedom Gold Limited in the Cayman Islands in December 1998 in which he was listed as the president and the company's sole director. He did conclude a mining agreement signed personally by him, Charles Taylor and key members of Taylor's cabinet on May 18, 1999. And the deal does give the Taylor regime a cut of the action.

Mathews also has a fertile imagination.

He implied that Robertson's gold mine deal with Taylor doesn't faze the U.S. government. "The US State Department has not discouraged or prohibited dealings in Liberia nor are any US national security interests adversely affected by an investment in Liberia," Mathews wrote.

Shown the Mathews fax, a State Department official said yesterday, "As you know, the United Nations has imposed sanctions on Liberia. In addition, the United States has imposed a set of travel restrictions. Though there are no legal prohibitions on U.S. investment in Liberia, the State Department has not encouraged either trade or investment in Liberia due to the absence of the rule of law and President Charles Taylor's support for armed insurgencies."

Now why is a freedom-loving, God-fearing man such as Pat Robertson signing on the dotted line with Taylor, a U.S. prison escapee, Libyan terrorist training camp graduate, human rights violator, and pillager of his own country and his neighbor, Sierra Leone?

What's there to like about Charles Taylor?

He was once an ally of the equally repulsive Samuel Doe, the semi-literate master sergeant who led a bloody coup in April 1980 against Liberian President William Tolbert. The late Tolbert ended up dead and disemboweled in the executive mansion -- a fate shared 10 years later by election-rigger par excellence Doe who, while wearing the mantle of president, was tortured, mutilated and done in by rebels.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.

Time was Taylor and Doe were good buddies. The relationship landed Taylor a top spot in Doe's government. But then word got around that Taylor had developed sticky fingers and had taken unscheduled leave of Liberia for America with more than $900,000 of his government's money. Charged with embezzlement by Liberia, Taylor was picked up and jailed in Plymouth County, Mass., to await extradition.

But Taylor, impatient fellow that he is, didn't much care to wait around for safe passage back into the arms of Doe. So he broke jail. Well, not exactly.

As the story goes, Taylor and some other petty crooks cut through the bars and climbed out the window with knotted sheets. The future president of Liberia was last seen moving out smartly, his shirttails parallel to the ground.

Eventually, Taylor made his way to Libya, where he hooked up with the Great Jamahiriyah, Col. Moammar Gadhafi. Taylor wasn't just passing through.

In Libya, Taylor and future West African rebel leaders -- Sierra Leone's Foday Sankoh and Burkina Faso's Blaise Compaore -- received military and terrorist training that prepared them to launch attacks on their governments. Shaped by Gadhafi, Taylor went after Doe in 1989, Sankoh led his Revolutionary United Front against Sierra Leone, and Compaore fought his way to power in Burkina Faso. Seven years, and 500,000 broken and destroyed lives later, Taylor's now president. He's still up to no good.

His government and Compaore's have been charged with running guns into and smuggling diamonds out of Sierra Leone. An alleged al Qaeda connection has even surfaced.

The rest is history. But one that's not well known.

Thanks to an American foreign policy that -- until Sept. 11 -- treated NATO and Europe as the main event and Africa as a sideshow, Gadhafi was able to quietly recruit and nurture proteges to export his revolution throughout West Africa. It was Gadhafi money that helped stoke the effort to overthrow Sierra Leone's first democratically elected government. Gadhafi, to this day, is still Taylor's benefactor.

Taylor would have Americans believe he is their best friend in Africa. Hah! He and Gadhafi are closer than two pages in a book.

Check out this excerpt from a Nov. 18, 2000, Libyan TV report in Tripoli on Taylor's visit to Libya a year ago, translated from Arabic by the BBC: "President Charles Taylor made a statement to the Libyan news agency in which he expressed his joy on visiting the Great Jamahiriyah. Charles Taylor said: 'I am very pleased to be here in my second country, Libya, in order to consult with my brother the leader on bilateral issues and on issues regarding African unity.' " "My second country, Libya"? Explain that, Liberian Ministry of Information and Culture.

Speaking of relationships, what about Robertson's? I'll say this for him: There's nothing Eurocentric in his choice of business buddies.

Before Taylor, Robertson was in cahoots with the late brutal and rapacious dictator of Zaire, Mobutu Sese Seko, alias the "President of Kleptocracy." Mobutu gave Robertson's privately formed African Development Co. concessions to hunt for diamonds and gold in Zaire in the '90s. That venture, alas, went bust.

Undeterred, Robertson has formed a for-profit Internet portal, Global Business Development Network, that's out to make big bucks in that great bastion of liberty, religious freedom and land of forced abortions, the People's Republic of China.

Mobutu. Beijing. Robertson should be right at home with Charles Taylor.

Bless the ol' reverend's heart.

Regards,

John M. Drake

rodent
11-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Wow. This lends so much credibility to Alex Jones' movie "End Game".



I mentioned this in the "Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani" thread, but I felt it deserved a thread of its own. It is NO SURPRISE to me that Pat Robertson endorsed Giuliani. They both agree on the war in Iraq, going to war in Iran, killing Hugo Chavez (well I haven't heard Rudy endorse that one yet, but give him time) and abortion. Well...again Rudy isn't as bad as Pat Robertson. Rudy endorse the "pro choice" position. Pat Robertson has taken the position that forced abortion is an appropriate government position in certain circumstances! He defended China's use of forced abortion to enforce its one child policy! But don't take my word for it, read his.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0104/16/wbr.00.html


I have to thank the Alex Jones show for alerting me to this. I thought he was making it up until I did my own research and found out that, yet again, he was right on the money! Pat Robertson is a disgusting individual and I am OH SO GLAD that he's endorse Giuliani over Dr. Paul or anyone else! Get this article out to all of your evangelical friends. Some of the people leading them are NOT Christian!

Regards,

John M. Drake

DaronWestbrooke
11-07-2007, 06:33 PM
During the ‘96 election, Robertson sent his little corrupt boy Ralph Reed down to South Carolina to stir anti-Catholic bigotry against Patrick J. Buchanan. Look at the harvest that the globalist neo cons have brought to USA. The dollar is collapsing and we are running a trillion dollar trade deficit with the world. Meantime, Communist China is arming themselves to the teeth with our money and technology. Our army is depleted thanks to Bush, Robertson, and the neocons. We are flooded with illegals, our industry is almost, and we are eating Chinese wheat glutton.