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Gage
12-05-2011, 05:09 AM
Joe Scarborough and Mark Halperin talking about Ron Paul winning Iowa on Morning Joe right now. Steven Rattner voicing his opposition in support of the Federal Reserve.

freefromchains
12-05-2011, 05:11 AM
Joe is defending him.

Halperin and this liberal guy are hounding on him.

Halperin: Ron Paul supporters don't know what the caucus is like, it isn't like a primary. His support won't be as good at the actually caucuses, unless bad voter turnout.

Liberal guy: Ron Paul is the most flawed candidate.

Morning Joe: IF you are a manhattan liberal.

bluesc
12-05-2011, 05:13 AM
Joe is defending him.

Halperin and this liberal guy are hounding on him.

Halperin: Ron Paul supporters don't know what the caucus is like, it isn't like a primary. His support won't be as good at the actually caucuses, unless bad voter turnout.

Liberal guy: Ron Paul is the most flawed candidate.

Morning Joe: IF you are a manhattan liberal.

We don't know how to caucus? Does that dick know how obsessed we are?

He also implies that regular caucus goers won't be caucusing for Ron, and that people who support Ron are just some separate entity or something.

Feeding the Abscess
12-05-2011, 05:16 AM
Halperin has it completely backwards. We're going to kill in caucuses, it's the primaries that are going to be the uphill climb.

Also, I thought Ron was ahead of Romney with 18%?

bluesc
12-05-2011, 05:16 AM
Halperin has it completely backwards. We're going to kill in caucuses, it's the primaries that are going to be the uphill climb.

Also, I thought Ron was ahead of Romney with 18%?

MSNBC had a poll with Ron one point behind Romney. All within the margin of error.

freefromchains
12-05-2011, 05:17 AM
Halperin is an idiot. He has always gives RP the lowest marks for debates. That is subjective, but his caucus comments are blatant lies. Look at the numbers last go around. We don't know how to caucus...what a f'ing joke.

freefromchains
12-05-2011, 05:18 AM
Halperin has it completely backwards. We're going to kill in caucuses, it's the primaries that are going to be the uphill climb.

Also, I thought Ron was ahead of Romney with 18%?

We are at 17% in the NBC-Marist poll, 18% in Des Moines Register.

CableNewsJunkie
12-05-2011, 05:21 AM
Halperin: Ron Paul supporters don't know what the caucus is like, it isn't like a primary. His support won't be as good at the actually caucuses, unless bad voter turnout.

Check youtube for Iowa caucus training videos.

Just found this one...watching it now for review.

Iowa Caucus Training
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqAenIntnRY


And according to their website, it looks like:

Romney is the only one who hasn't taken their pledge.

h ttp://strongamericanow.org/

jct74
12-05-2011, 05:23 AM
I just saw Trump on Fox & Friends. He said Ron Paul's campagn is a "joke", was making fun of his position on Iran, and said Ron was "cutesy" and had "nice slogans".

bluesc
12-05-2011, 05:24 AM
I just saw Trump on Fox & Friends. He said Ron Paul's campagn is a "joke", was making fun of his position on Iran, and said Ron was "cutesy" and had "nice slogans".

Expect to see more of that.

CableNewsJunkie
12-05-2011, 05:26 AM
I just saw Trump on Fox & Friends. He said Ron Paul's campagn is a "joke", was making fun of his position on Iran, and said Ron was "cutesy" and had "nice slogans".

I didn't see it, but I say we let him run his mouth for a while.

He's trolling and trying to build ratings for his circus.

freefromchains
12-05-2011, 05:27 AM
I still think picking a fight with Trump was NOT a good move :(....

Not worth it.

speciallyblend
12-05-2011, 05:58 AM
I still think picking a fight with Trump was NOT a good move :(....

Not worth it.

you wanna argue with Ron Paul? :) hehe i say go for it:)

freefromchains
12-05-2011, 06:05 AM
you wanna argue with Ron Paul? :) hehe i say go for it:)

But who is Fox and the like going to back :(....that's what concerns me. The establishment forces.

speciallyblend
12-05-2011, 06:11 AM
But who is Fox and the like going to back :(....that's what concerns me. The establishment forces.

i hear ya, not sure how it will play out but i have to think Ron Paul made this decision and in the end i think it will be the wise one! We just need to win iowa and if we do that trump and fox lose alot of credibility if they had any to begin with! I have a feeling more folks will drop out of that debate! either way the debate just lost credibility with the front runner dropping out of it;)

FreedomProsperityPeace
12-05-2011, 06:15 AM
It's a bunch of wishful thinking by Rattner and Halperin. They're trying to hold the "unelectable" theme together, but it's crumbling to dust in their hands.

Austrian Econ Disciple
12-05-2011, 06:15 AM
But who is Fox and the like going to back :(....that's what concerns me. The establishment forces.

Why does it bother you? The establishment will do what the establishment always does -- they are quite predictable. Who cares who they endorse -- we all know it is going to be someone else than Paul, so the focus should be on getting our message out to as many people as possible bypassing the filter machines and gatekeepers. In other words, it is up to ourselves and not any other entity or organizations that 'are in the way' so to speak. There is nothing we can do about the establishment except ignore them and do our best to beat our information drums. This is the same thought process that the only change that you can have absolute success at is changing yourself as an individual. You have no one to worry about except yourself. So, spread the message.

CableNewsJunkie
12-05-2011, 06:16 AM
But who is Fox and the like going to back :(....that's what concerns me. The establishment forces.

Yea, but that's why a lot of us are here. We eventually woke up to what was going on. More and more people are waking up every day. The attacks will continue to backfire.

speciallyblend
12-05-2011, 06:20 AM
It's a bunch of wishful thinking by Rattner and Halperin. They're trying to hold the "unelectable" theme together, but it's crumbling to dust in their hands.

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wgadget
12-05-2011, 06:22 AM
Individuals vote for Ron Paul after doing their research. Groups (of sheep) vote for whomever they are told to vote for after watching the boob tube.

anewvoice
12-05-2011, 06:23 AM
I've had near universal support to Ron Paul's stance, from non-supporters. He took the high road and will be rewarded accordingly.

freeforall
12-05-2011, 06:30 AM
I still think picking a fight with Trump was NOT a good move :(....

Not worth it.

Trump has a lot of money to protect. He would be gunning for Ron either way. The campaign pointed out real flaws and he is responding with name calling. I don't think there are many who relate to Trump or respect his opinion.

FreedomProsperityPeace
12-05-2011, 06:31 AM
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speciallyblend
12-05-2011, 06:34 AM
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No Free Beer
12-05-2011, 07:02 AM
Ron is top tier now. Expect all these attacks

djruden
12-05-2011, 07:37 AM
It kills me when I see NY Media elite talking about Iowa like they know a thing or two when it's obvious they have never even set foot here...

JohnGalt23g
12-05-2011, 07:39 AM
Mark Halperin, lay off of the Gardasil, man.

There's no future in it.

Eric21ND
12-05-2011, 07:40 AM
LOL @ Iowans and specifically Paul supporters not knowing how to caucus. Even the smallest bit of research shows that caucus states are our strong states.

IterTemporis
12-05-2011, 08:54 AM
Trump has a lot of money to protect. He would be gunning for Ron either way. The campaign pointed out real flaws and he is responding with name calling. I don't think there are many who relate to Trump or respect his opinion.

I believe that there is a poster here who has something along the lines of "The first sign of a failed argument is when they start name-calling/insulting you" in their signature. I believe that it fits this situation well.

specsaregood
12-05-2011, 09:02 AM
LOL @ Iowans and specifically Paul supporters not knowing how to caucus. Even the smallest bit of research shows that caucus states are our strong states.

He must think we are chained in our momma's basements.

rawful
12-05-2011, 09:15 AM
I just saw Trump on Fox & Friends. He said Ron Paul's campagn is a "joke", was making fun of his position on Iran, and said Ron was "cutesy" and had "nice slogans".

Coming from the guy who has to shoehorn "you're fired" into everything.

sailingaway
12-05-2011, 10:24 AM
We are at 17% in the NBC-Marist poll, 18% in Des Moines Register.

but in that poll Ron is also the ONLY GOP candidate who beats Obama.

Athan
12-05-2011, 10:48 AM
I still think picking a fight with Trump was NOT a good move :(....

Not worth it.
If you mean earlier in the year with Ron Paul supporters shouting during his speech? I agree. Heckling shouldn't start from our peeps unless its payback.
If you mean now? **** it. He doesn't deserve respect from the Ron Paul campaign as he is daft and shouldn't be moderating. Seriously it would have been another CBS joke a debate anyway.

Join The Paul Side
12-05-2011, 10:51 AM
We don't know how to caucus? Does that dick know how obsessed we are?


Apparently he didn't pay attention to Nevada 2008, where we were winning big and the Establishment was so embarrassed that they shut the caucus down.

We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn!!!! :D

No Free Beer
12-05-2011, 09:18 PM
but in that poll Ron is also the ONLY GOP candidate who beats Obama.

MSNBC didnt show that this morning tho...