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BizmanUSA

11-07-2007, 08:15 AM

I guess Pat is more concerned with warmongering, than with God?

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Make this into a RP Campaign Flyer

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BizmanUSA

FluffyUnbound

11-07-2007, 08:15 AM

Robertson had to decide who he hates more: Gays or Muslims.

He picked Muslims.

Ridiculous

11-07-2007, 08:17 AM

I am going to write David Brody asking about this he is the CBN News Senior National Correspondent. He always writes very favorably about Paul in his column the Brody File. http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/blogs/brodyfile/

I wonder how pissed the people working for CBN are about this.... Or if they will just be Robertson's little sheep.

He did a pretty good interview with Paul two weeks ago: http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/254049.aspx

freelance

11-07-2007, 08:18 AM

If this is true, the Christian coalition just fell apart.

Yes, and that's a good thing for us--unless they all decide to rally around Guliani, which I think has about zero chance of happening.

margomaps

11-07-2007, 08:22 AM

I guess Pat is more concerned with warmongering, than with God?

http://democratsforpaul.com/praypaul.jpg

That kid has pretty big hands for his age. A future basketball player? :D

But seriously, this is bizarre. Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani? Does not compute. I didn't have much respect for Robertson before, but now I have none whatsoever. And it's not sour grapes that he didn't endorse Paul -- it's disgust that this supposed Christian has revealed himself as someone who will exchange his deepest held principles (anti-abortion for example) for the likelihood of killing more muslims. I'm shocked about this, actually.

ifthenwouldi

11-07-2007, 08:25 AM

Agreed. Getting evangelicals to understand that Paul is the best possible choice to protect their religious liberties is a key to winning in the primaries IMHO.

First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:1-4

What other candidate promises Christians the freedom to "lead a tranquil and quiet life" with the same integrity as Ron Paul?

Ridiculous

11-07-2007, 08:26 AM

Thread title should be changed to "MSNBC: Pat Robertson to endorse Giuliani"

ForLiberty-RonPaul

11-07-2007, 08:29 AM

That kid has pretty big hands for his age. A future basketball player? :D

But seriously, this is bizarre. Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani? Does not compute. I didn't have much respect for Robertson before, but now I have none whatsoever. And it's not sour grapes that he didn't endorse Paul -- it's disgust that this supposed Christian has revealed himself as someone who will exchange his deepest held principles (anti-abortion for example) for the likelihood of killing more muslims. I'm shocked about this, actually.

Christian?!?!?! HAHAHA. no way. Robertson is a figure head, or voice for the Neo-Cons. Direct channel into the hard right conservatives of the US. You can't contain that much sleeziness and be a true Christian.:rolleyes: And this is coming from an Athiest!(well i'm athiest some of the time) So no I don't find this bizarre at all.

DjLoTi

11-07-2007, 08:30 AM

Thread title should be changed to "MSNBC: Pat Robertson to endorse Giuliani"

yes

freelance

11-07-2007, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ridiculous View Post
Thread title should be changed to "MSNBC: Pat Robertson to endorse Giuliani"

Agreed. I was just trying to get the info out as quickly as possible.

I'll flag the post.

terlinguatx

11-07-2007, 08:33 AM

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freelance

11-07-2007, 08:34 AM

Someone YouTube it.

peruvianRP

11-07-2007, 08:35 AM

WHAT???!!! That's crazy...

Pat is crazy

Trassin

11-07-2007, 08:35 AM

I can't believe this crap. It's on CNN headline news right now.

werdd

11-07-2007, 08:38 AM

Great, now giuliani just needs Fred Phelps to endorse him.

Ridiculous

11-07-2007, 08:39 AM

I suggest emailing the people that work for him at CBN and the 700 club that have email addresses posted expressing displeasure. The email donesn't need to say anything about Ron Paul, just that you have lost all respect for Robertson, and if you want to fudge a little, that you won't be giving any more money to the 700 club or CBN....

http://www.cbn.com/contact/feedback-cbnnewswatch.aspx
http://www.cbn.com/contact/feedback-700club.aspx?WT.svl=menu

http://www.cbn.com/contact/feedback.aspx

kylejack

11-07-2007, 08:39 AM

Great, now giuliani just needs Fred Phelps to endorse him.
He endorsed Thompson already, seriously.

tarsus

11-07-2007, 08:40 AM

It almost seems like evangelicals are pushing for a world that will usher in the Armageddon they so adamantly warn against.

Magsec

11-07-2007, 08:40 AM

Pat Robertson endorsing Giuliani? The guy fired off several things wrong with the Middle East/Pakistan/Korea, and it sounded like a big ol' mess.

BIG_J

11-07-2007, 08:41 AM

I think this has been talked about on CBN but the old coalition has fallen apart; and they themselves are wondering if they will have any power because (and this is a direct qoute) "We are now a lot of little fishes in a bigger pond)

Sounds like GBII coalition is falling apart.

freelance

11-07-2007, 08:43 AM

Call me crazy, but do these endorsements to Thompson, Guiliani and McCain not make chumps out of the people who supported the Christian Coalition all of these years?

How will they convince the people that their leaders are anything but satanists? Will they call upon the same pastors that they used to distort Romans 13? Those people have already been brainwashed in accepting martial law.

wsc321

11-07-2007, 08:44 AM

This is beyond crazy... Especially given that Dobson said he'd lead a coalition against the GOP is Guiliani was endorsed.

I never would have thought this would happen.

J4ck

11-07-2007, 08:46 AM

Don't be suprised. They're all corrupt hypocrites.

margomaps

11-07-2007, 08:47 AM

Christian?!?!?! HAHAHA. no way. Robertson is a figure head, or voice for the Neo-Cons. Direct channel into the hard right conservatives of the US. You can't contain that much sleeziness and be a true Christian.:rolleyes: And this is coming from an Athiest!(well i'm athiest some of the time) So no I don't find this bizarre at all.

Well, I did say "supposed Christian." He certainly believes he is a Christian, and he certainly has a lot of followers who see him that way.

J4ck

11-07-2007, 08:50 AM

A question to think about: Is it a positive thing to have the armageddon vote? ;)
(which Giuliani certainly deserves)

Kregener

11-07-2007, 08:50 AM

If Robertson 'hated' homosexuals, then he was never a Christian to begin with.

The Apostatic church cannot be relied upon to vote for Ron Paul, they will vote for whomever their "leaders" endorse.

Pure sheep.

runderwo

11-07-2007, 09:01 AM

foofighter20x

11-07-2007, 09:03 AM

A question to think about: Is it a positive thing to have the armageddon vote? ;)
(which Giuliani certainly deserves)

Biblically, the U.S. plays no major role in the end of the world or the Battle of Armageddon, so technically, if the people wanting to force the rapture and the end of the world and the Second coming want to vote for the candidate that'll get them that, then they'd need to vote for Dr Paul.

margomaps

11-07-2007, 09:03 AM

Giuliani isn't just pro-choice, he's militant pro-abortion in that he advocates government funding for abortions. Pat, how do you like the idea of your money being taken from you by the government and used to fund abortions?

I don't think he likes it. But it's worth it to him in order to have someone in office who will continue killing people overseas. Ironic, isn't it?

freelance

11-07-2007, 09:05 AM

Biblically, the U.S. plays no major role in the end of the world or the Battle of Armageddon, so technically, if the people wanting to force the rapture and the end of the world and the Second coming want to vote for the candidate that'll get them that, then they'd need to vote for Dr Paul.

Foofighter, MUST you insist on enlightening us the finer points??? LOL!

Someone forgot to pass along the finer points of Roman 13 as well.

STICK TO THE TALKING POINTS, wouldya?

Minlawc

11-07-2007, 09:10 AM

This isn't exactly good for Giuliani, but it is bad for Pat Robertson.

Robertson loses more credibility. Joe Scarborough doesn't know what he's talking about...

We should use this opportunity to reach more evangelicals.

wsc321

11-07-2007, 09:14 AM

We should use this opportunity to reach more evangelicals.

I'm wondering if somehow this could further serve a "perfect storm" to help Dr. Paul? This plus the dollar crisis increasing (per China's recent announcement)...?

apropos

11-07-2007, 09:17 AM

Robertson will probably end up losing a lot of his flock because of this. Giulani is not what one associates a Christian world view.

reduen

11-07-2007, 09:19 AM

I guess Pat is more concerned with warmongering, than with God?

http://democratsforpaul.com/praypaul.jpg

Ra, this picture is beautiful. :)

Duckman

11-07-2007, 09:35 AM

Yeah, this is unbelievable. Dobson is going to try to lead evangelicals out of the GOP if Guiliani is nominated, and then Robertson ENDORSES Guiliani?

Huh?

I think Guiliani gets no bump from this and Robertson loses whatever credibility he has left.

MO4RonPaul

11-07-2007, 09:43 AM

To the Christians in this forum:

If you have MySpace (or similar) post a bulletin or a blog with a link to this news story. Hopefully your Christian friends will read it and get mad. Maybe they will shake themselves from their sheepdom and realize that the Christian right have been duped. Make sure you have something on your page that will lead them to Ron Paul. Maybe add the Christians For Ron Paul banner to your page.

Pat Robertson has just urinated in our corn flakes and we are not gonna take it anymore!

WAKE UP!!!!!

mconder

11-07-2007, 09:44 AM

They're saying that Pat Robertson is going to endorse Giuliani.

Must be a cold day in hell.

FrankRep

11-07-2007, 09:45 AM

Ask Pat a Question

http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/BringItOn/askpat.aspx

Zydeco

11-07-2007, 09:46 AM

If this is true, the Christian coalition just fell apart.

Yes. This is a sign of corruption in the Christian coalition, and many of its members will realize that quickly.

Ever get the sense that the whole corrupt system is disintegrating before our eyes? I do. :cool:

freelance

11-07-2007, 09:50 AM

F3d

11-07-2007, 09:52 AM

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Primbs

11-07-2007, 09:53 AM

It is on the front page of Drudge in red.

I don't think many christians are going to follow Robertson's lead.

This throws the election into further chaos with no clear front runner for the GOP.

Ron Paul now has a bigger chance to capture part of the evangelical vote.

werdd

11-07-2007, 09:53 AM

i asked pat if killing muslims is more important than killing babies.

freelance

11-07-2007, 09:53 AM

This throws the election into further chaos with no clear front runner for the GOP.

Yes, and that's GREAT news.

ConstitutionGal

11-07-2007, 09:56 AM

This makes perfect sense when you realize that organized Christianity is a BIG business in this country and Pat is probably near the top of those who are raking in the $$$ while PROFESSING to be Christian. I think he'll see his donations fall off DRAMATICALLY after this fiasco and deservedly so.

I'll stick with Pastor Chuck Baldwin (www.ChuckBaldwinLive.com ) . He has a huge following and is all about the Holy Bible and the U.S. Constitution AND...he has already endorsed Dr. Paul!!

runderwo

11-07-2007, 09:57 AM

I don't think he likes it. But it's worth it to him in order to have someone in office who will continue killing people overseas. Ironic, isn't it?

Someone needs to call Robertson out in a BIG way with this info. Christians, Pat Robertson wants YOU to continue paying for other people's abortions!

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

"Every good Christian ought to kick Pat Robertson right in the ass"

Mortikhi

11-07-2007, 09:58 AM

Pat Robertson supports abortion.
Pass it on.

JosephTheLibertarian

11-07-2007, 10:00 AM

giuliani is not just prochoice.. he supports tax payers paying for it!! you can't get more prochoice than that

Taco John

11-07-2007, 10:00 AM

Ask Pat a Question

htt p://www.cbn.com/700club/features/BringItOn/askpat.aspx

When are people going to learn that you don't link directly to their site?

Primbs

11-07-2007, 10:01 AM

There have been very few Christian Coalition national conventions the last few years. They are not very strong any more.

It has fallen a part but other organizations have risen to take its place.

Many are going to quit the Christian Coalition in disgust.

The pro life issue is there bread and butter. To support an openly pro choice republican is not going to cut it with 98% of the remaining christian coalition followers.

newmedia4ron

11-07-2007, 10:02 AM

Call talk radio
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=32664

and bring up the Rudy dirt!

http://web.archive.org/web/20070625221949/www.oppodepot.com/giuliani.html
http://therealrudy.org
http://www.rudyrevealed.com/
http://www.realchange.org/giuliani.htm
http://www.ronpaulpostcards.com/rudy.html
https://johnedwards.com/assets/site/scary-times.gif
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/archive/index.php/t-8788.html
http://www.joinrudy20008.com/
http://dontvote4.us/

fedup100

11-07-2007, 10:04 AM

The 700 Club website has no mention of this. Also the story about Paul's one day haul is in their news section as a favorite story.

This needs to be verified before anyone acts on it. I suggest all of us that are Christian to send an email now, a nice one and let him know we will not support Guilliani and he shouldn't either.

http://www.cbn.com/

jmdrake

11-07-2007, 10:05 AM

Pat endorsing a Pro-Choice guy really just baffles me.

Why? Didn't you know that Pat Robertson supports forced abortion?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Pat+Robertson+Forced+abortion&btnG=Google+Search

http://archive.salon.com/politics/red/2001/04/18/blue/
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22475

I learned this surprising fact years ago listening to Alex Jones. Maybe if people would spend as much time listening to AJ as they do dumping on him they might not be surprised by such developments.

Regards,

John M. Drake

Johnnybags

11-07-2007, 10:05 AM

He is more interested in Israeli funding aid than morals. Robertson just proved he is a fraud, lol. Christian right betrayed. This election is bringing out the whole circus.

LibertyEagle

11-07-2007, 10:06 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21669328/

james1906

11-07-2007, 10:13 AM

Wouldn't Robertson say Ghoul's prostate cancer is God punishing him for his marital indiscretions and pro-choice stance?

This is baffling, but shows how warmongering is job #1 on the neocon agenda.

American

11-07-2007, 10:15 AM

I guess Pat is more concerned with warmongering, than with God?

No, that's faith in action.

jcbraithwaite7

11-07-2007, 10:15 AM

A few months ago I sent a prayer request "Help guide our country and appoint a true pro-life leader who will protect our soverignty against the North American Union."

Robertson is the modern day Judas. I hope the pieces of silver haunt him. If evangelicals want to help the end times come they are foolish to think that God needs any assistance in speeding up the process.

I say flood the prayer request lines with prayer requests for some sanity and leadership for CBN.

rockwell

11-07-2007, 10:17 AM

What was the name of that cross-dresser in the Bible?

That's right, there wasn't one.

Phenom24

11-07-2007, 10:23 AM

I can't help but think some of these guys would have chosen Barabbas over Jesus if he "had a better chance to win."

I wrote a letter to Pat - see if he answers....

fedup100

11-07-2007, 10:23 AM

GGGGGGRRRRRRR.....!!!!!!!!

I personally as a Christian will blast the 700 Hundred club email today. I hope all of us melt their server. let them know he has lost all credibility as a Christian and we will never darken their site again or watch his phony prayers for the sick while he flashes the "diablo satan" sign.

I must say this here and now. I realize we are not a free people and we have no freedom of speech, but people must realize why these phony christian leaders are making these astonishing moves......it is Israel.

Please study who the real Israel is ( hint: it isn't the ones that claim to be them), the Christians have been duped by these vile double agents of zionism.

Dustancostine

11-07-2007, 10:26 AM

Pat endorsing a Pro-Choice guy really just baffles me.

Pat Robinson is a billionaire globalist corporatist. Yeah he is going to back Guliani. This is the same guy who called the Bank of Scotland the antichrist and then took a seat on their corporate board in the US. He is also the one who "donated" money for airplanes to air lift food and medicine for the poor in Africa, then used those planes to fly in equipment for his diamond mining company instead. His father was a Senator and the mentor of one Prescott Bush (father of H.W.). The whole religious thing is just a front, it is all about business.

--Dustan

Santana28

11-07-2007, 10:27 AM

I think this is GREAT news! Why? Because the Evangelical vote just got split in half.

The warmongers will break off with Pat and support Guiliani now. The rest will have to come to their senses.

Actually, do you think it is possible that Guiliani told Pat he would be selecting Huckabee as his VP?

If thats the route things go... the remainder will have to turn to the only real candidate left - Ron Paul. I have a feeling that alot of evangelicals in support of MH will not continue that support if he aligns himself with RG like Pat Robertson just did.

JMT

F3d

11-07-2007, 10:29 AM

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FSP-Rebel

11-07-2007, 10:33 AM

Pat Robinson is a billionaire globalist corporatist. Yeah he is going to back Guliani. This is the same guy who called the Bank of Scotland the antichrist and then took a seat on their corporate board in the US. He is also the one who "donated" money for airplanes to air lift food and medicine for the poor in Africa, then used those planes to fly in equipment for his diamond mining company instead. His father was a Senator and the mentor of one Prescott Bush (father of H.W.). The whole religious thing is just a front, it is all about business.

--Dustan
Thx for saving me the research time.

OURPLAN

11-07-2007, 10:37 AM

How can this be happening?? I thought Pat Robertson loved Ron Paul????????

Dorfsmith

11-07-2007, 10:39 AM

How can this be happening?? I thought Pat Robertson loved Ron Paul????????

CBN has been positive about Ron Paul but Pat himself was talking about the greatness of Rudy months ago.

Stealth4

11-07-2007, 10:39 AM

How can this be happening?? I thought Pat Robertson loved Ron Paul????????

Who cares - I dont - Pat Robertson's endorsement is a detriment to a campaign in my opinion. That man has no credibility and he certainly doesnt practice the teachings of Christ.

He is to Christianity what Bush is to the ideals of the Republican Party.

Dorfsmith

11-07-2007, 10:40 AM

Dorfsmith

11-07-2007, 10:41 AM

Who cares - I dont - Pat Robertson's endorsement is a detriment to a campaign in my opinion. That man has no credibility and he certainly doesnt practice the teachings of Christ.

He is to Christianity what Bush is to the ideals of the Republican Party.

You know, if he had endorsed Ron Paul the media would spin it as another nut for Ron Paul. Thanks for supporting Rudy pat :D

cjhowe

11-07-2007, 10:44 AM

Dobson was right. The social conservative movement in America is dead.

OceanMachine7

11-07-2007, 10:44 AM

This doesn't surprise me, I just hope we don't see the positive articles from CBC stopping.

ButchHowdy

11-07-2007, 10:45 AM

This does not compute.

A CBN reporter was video taping the crap our Tyvek banners in Orlando and when I told him I appreciate David Brody's articles, he encouraged me to thank him via the lens, which I did.

And I thanked Pat Robertson and told him we needed his support as well.

MO4RonPaul

11-07-2007, 10:45 AM

I would love it if every one of his supporters would email him and call him Judas :D I'm sure his following pretty much supports any Republican over Rudy :D

You just need to mail him one word: ICHABOD it means the glory has departed.

He'll understand it.

Dorfsmith

11-07-2007, 10:51 AM

You just need to mail him one word: ICHABOD it means the glory has departed.

He'll understand it.

Exactly! :D

ButchHowdy

11-07-2007, 10:51 AM

You just need to mail him one word: ICHABOD it means the glory has departed.

He'll understand it.

AMEN! Remember Shiloh!

In fact . . . Remember Jerusalem!

tsetsefly

11-07-2007, 10:59 AM

that is a win for us, pat robertson is insane, i wouldnt want his endorsement ...

jumpyg1258

11-07-2007, 11:00 AM

I guess Pat is more concerned with warmongering, than with God?

You didn’t know that? Isn't Pat the one to endorse on national television the assassination of a publicly elected world leader?

OURPLAN

11-07-2007, 11:00 AM

You're right, it's a good thing we DIDN'T get an endorsement. The media would SPIN it into
another nutjob story.

RevolutionSD

11-07-2007, 11:01 AM

This makes total sense.
Pat R is a big government statist who benefits from the federal government.
Ron Paul would do him no favors, but Rudy is always on the take.

We definitely don't need neocon Pat on our side!

freelance

11-07-2007, 11:12 AM

I don't mean to get into a religious argument here (I go out of my way to avoid such things), but it certainly seems that this campaign has been riding around with an angel on it's shoulder.

It's a GREAT thing that Pat Robertson did not endorse Ron Paul.

I can't wait to see how this invisible hand guides the grassroots and the campaign to turn the Dec. 4th debate debacle into another success for Ron Paul. I'm over the doom and gloom. No matter what they throw at us, somehow, some way, it boomerangs.

I think that if Robertson and Dobson can split the Christian vote, that's only going to help.

I am CERTAIN that the attempt at exclusion from the debates and these endorsements (timed as they were) are just more proof that TPTB are running scared. I do NOT think that their antics are confined to campaign antics, so prepare for the worst and expect the best.

Ninja Homer

11-07-2007, 11:26 AM

I thought Ron Paul had a perfect storm going for him a couple weeks ago. Now it's... ummm... even more perfect.

Millions of Christians will be waking up to the fact that they have been lead down the neocon path by people like Robertson pretending to be Christians. These people will start thinking for themselves, and I think many of them will find Ron Paul.

This would be a good week to talk to pastors/preachers or hand out flyers at churches. Here's some good things to print up:
http://www.covenantnews.com/ronpaul070721.htm
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin410.htm
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin412.htm

ValidusCustodiae

11-07-2007, 11:34 AM

Robertson will probably end up losing a lot of his flock because of this. Giulani is not what one associates a Christian world view.

Many Christians' world view (ESPECIALLY EVANGELICALS) is that we as a nation MUST support Israel or else GOD will kill us all with hellfire and brimstone. It might sound crazy, but as my aunt said, "Any nation that turns its back on Israel is doomed". In other words, the Zionists have long infiltrated our churches and people like Pat Robertson.

There is no reason to be surprised that Pat endorsed a pro-choice candidate, because that candidate is the one promising the police state here and continued unqualified support of Israel in the Middle East.

james1906

11-07-2007, 11:34 AM

How can this be happening?? I thought Pat Robertson loved Ron Paul????????

You might be thinking of Pat Buchanan

wgadget

11-07-2007, 11:35 AM

I think that Robertson will see checks coming in from little old ladies dropping off. He has sold his soul to the devil himself. This is also good for Ron Paul. When all these ex-Robertson supporters figure out that he's off his rocker, they'll look elsewhere for advice on who to vote for....Who knows, maybe they'll even do their own research. And they may end up going with Ron Paul.

When my 11-year-old daughter heard this news, she said, "He probably paid him..." Wise words for such a young one, eh?

BTW, I am an evangelical myself. This just does not make sense.

ValidusCustodiae

11-07-2007, 11:36 AM

Evangelicals

Many evangelicals are hoping the government will continue to pass religion-based laws (such as the blue laws) so they can force others to subscribe to their faith. Evangelicals do not believe in freedom, for the most part. It's the LAST thing on their list. There are exceptions to every rule.

deedles

11-07-2007, 11:38 AM

We have to try and pick off the smart christians conservatives who will, no doubt be upset by Robertson's blatant sell-out. This is a group we have to target. Some won't be budged but some absolutely can be.

My meetup group is right now working on radio ads targeting our local Christian radio stations. We're going to run a series of 30 sec ads: pro-life, sovereignty, the war, immigration, aid to Israel and a general Ron Paul ad. We are lucky to have a professional broadcaster in our group with a great voice, and will certainly make the commercials available to all when they are finished. Looking to be ready mid-late November.

We have a chip-in if anyone wants to help!

http://foxvalleywisconsin.chipin.com/ron-paul-radio-ad-campaignoperation-wake-up-wisconsin-christians

Brinck Slattery

11-07-2007, 11:40 AM

Many Christians' world view (ESPECIALLY EVANGELICALS) is that we as a nation MUST support Israel or else GOD will kill us all with hellfire and brimstone. It might sound crazy, but as my aunt said, "Any nation that turns its back on Israel is doomed". In other words, the Zionists have long infiltrated our churches and people like Pat Robertson.

There is no reason to be surprised that Pat endorsed a pro-choice candidate, because that candidate is the one promising the police state here and continued unqualified support of Israel in the Middle East.

I don't see how that's even possible, God would have to be pretty fickle since Israel didn't exist before the 40s.

hells_unicorn

11-07-2007, 11:44 AM

A Protestant judas-goat supporting a Catholic judas-goat, definitely a match made in hell.

P.S. - Pat Robertson has rationalized mandatory abortions in China on socio-political grounds (in contrast with most Churches I might add), so him supporting a Pro-Choice candidate is only mind-boggling to someone who doesn't fully research Mr. Robertson's history.

JosephTheLibertarian

11-07-2007, 12:06 PM

I never liked Pat Robertson anyway.

max

11-07-2007, 12:09 PM

let me get this straight..pat Robertson..."a man of God"...is endorsing a three time married cross dressing adulterous warmonger over a 50 year married to same woman, honest peace lover????

Like Jesus said when asked how we should distingiush between false prohets and real ones...

"BY THEIR FRUITS SHALL YE KNOW THEM!"

drain

11-07-2007, 12:10 PM

You might be thinking of Pat Buchanan

i know i was until i saw the article. Pat Robertson is a wacko, no need for him here.

-adrian

ValidusCustodiae

11-07-2007, 12:11 PM

I don't see how that's even possible, God would have to be pretty fickle since Israel didn't exist before the 40s.

It doesn't have to make sense.

In fact, I'd go so far as to argue that 99% of typical evangelical political positions make no sense.

CurtisLow

11-07-2007, 12:14 PM

Pat Robertson Endorses Rudy: Deems Him 'More Than Acceptable to People of Faith'
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/11/robertson_to_endorse_giuliani.html?hpid=topnews

It's crazy.... There's something funny going on. I could see him endorsing anyone else but Rudy.

Old Pat is off his rocker, A real nut case! Now he' going to lie about rudy's record?

DjLoTi

11-07-2007, 12:14 PM

This thread should GET OUT OF THIS FORUM!!!

fj45lvr

11-07-2007, 12:16 PM

Pat NEEDS to rebuild the JEWISH TEMPLE to usher in the end of the world..

Needs to have NAZI war machine to put down the Muslims to make it happen

Boy you know now that Pat is a FALSE TEACHER.

Minlawc

11-07-2007, 12:21 PM

I don't see how that's even possible, God would have to be pretty fickle since Israel didn't exist before the 40s.

This depends on what you call Israel, the state or the land.

Actually Israel(The State) shouldn't really be called Israel. It's a Jewish state, and it should be named as such, and if you prescribe to the Germanic/Celtic Israeli tribe theory they're far off the mark.

There is NO denying that it is or was the land of Israel though.

For some reason I can only see good things coming from this event, guess I'm an optimist.:cool:

runderwo

11-07-2007, 12:34 PM

What was the name of that cross-dresser in the Bible?

That's right, there wasn't one.

Some would argue that what Jesus had long hair and wore a dress.

Original_Intent

11-07-2007, 12:40 PM

OK Robertson endorsing Giuliani makes about as much sense as anything else happening in this country.:confused:

DjLoTi

11-07-2007, 12:40 PM

This thread does not belong here!!!!!!!

TechnoGuyRob

11-07-2007, 12:41 PM

Can I just say...
What the ****?

GeorgiaRPFan

11-07-2007, 01:09 PM

They're saying that Pat Robertson is going to endorse Giuliani.

So abortion is no longer an issue for Pat Robertson? :confused:

TimSteeno

11-07-2007, 01:31 PM

Paulitician

11-07-2007, 01:35 PM

I pity his followers. BTW, this seems like attempt to say "see, Giuliani can get the support from conservative Evangelicals... no reason why we can't support him" among other things. It's so pathetic.

V4Vendetta

11-07-2007, 01:41 PM

Pat NEEDS to rebuild the JEWISH TEMPLE to usher in the end of the world..

Needs to have NAZI war machine to put down the Muslims to make it happen

Boy you know now that Pat is a FALSE TEACHER.

The Jewish Temple is ALRWADY built! And they found the Red Heffer to sacrifice.

RP4ME

11-07-2007, 01:48 PM

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." -Pat Robertson

That gets passage gets very twisted by preachers and non belivers as well. Teh other side of that which doesnt get mentioned is that Husbands are to GIVE UP THEir LIVES if necessary for their wives....so who gets the biggest burden? Ist not at all about keeping women silent and mindless although im sure a few misguided pastors and feminists woudl wnat you to belive that!

RP4ME

11-07-2007, 01:48 PM

The Jewish Temple is ALRWADY built! And they found the Red Heffer to sacrifice.

Tahts right!

Dary

11-07-2007, 02:15 PM

Pat Robertson to endorse Giuliani

Thank God!

RPFTW!

11-07-2007, 02:26 PM

ROFL that is an awesome image.

that kid has some huge hands

V-rod

11-07-2007, 02:55 PM

I think this is great news. Many hardcore evangelical followers know won't vote for Giuliani even with Robertson's endorsement. This is good because this is a message to Romney that he will get very minimal evangelical support.