Big Oops: Senate Republicans Just Legalized Sodomy and Bestiality in the Military

[FrankRep]

Senate Repeals Bans on Sodomy and Bestiality in the Military (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-military)


CNS News
December 1, 2011

The Senate on Thursday evening voted 93-7 to approve a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.



http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1867/show


Republicans Voting 'Aye'

Sen. Lamar Alexander [R, TN]
Sen. Kelly Ayotte [R, NH]
Sen. John Barrasso [R, WY]
Sen. Roy Blunt [R, MO]
Sen. John Boozman [R, AR]
Sen. Scott Brown [R, MA]
Sen. Richard Burr [R, NC]
Sen. Saxby Chambliss [R, GA]
Sen. Daniel Coats [R, IN]
Sen. Thad Cochran [R, MS]
Sen. Susan Collins [R, ME]
Sen. Bob Corker [R, TN]
Sen. John Cornyn [R, TX]
Sen. Michael Crapo [R, ID]
Sen. Jim DeMint [R, SC]
Sen. Michael Enzi [R, WY]
Sen. Lindsey Graham [R, SC]
Sen. Charles Grassley [R, IA]
Sen. Orrin Hatch [R, UT]
Sen. Dean Heller [R, NV]
Sen. John Hoeven [R, ND]
Sen. Kay Hutchison [R, TX]
Sen. James Inhofe [R, OK]
Sen. John Isakson [R, GA]
Sen. Mike Johanns [R, NE]
Sen. Ron Johnson [R, WI]
Sen. Mark Kirk [R, IL]
Sen. Jon Kyl [R, AZ]
Sen. Richard Lugar [R, IN]
Sen. John McCain [R, AZ]
Sen. Mitch McConnell [R, KY]
Sen. Jerry Moran [R, KS]
Sen. Lisa Murkowski [R, AK]
Sen. Robert Portman [R, OH]
Sen. James Risch [R, ID]
Sen. Pat Roberts [R, KS]
Sen. Marco Rubio [R, FL]
Sen. Jefferson Sessions [R, AL]
Sen. Richard Shelby [R, AL]
Sen. Olympia Snowe [R, ME]
Sen. John Thune [R, SD]
Sen. Patrick Toomey [R, PA]
Sen. David Vitter [R, LA]
Sen. Roger Wicker [R, MS]


Background:

U.S. Senate votes for Indefinite, Unconstitutional Detention (http://thenewamerican.com/opinion/959-jack-kenny/9993-us-senate-votes-for-indefinite-unconstitutional-detention)



The Senate has voted to authorize indefinite, unconstitutional detention of terror suspects in the United States and around the world — viewing even the U.S. as a battlefield and trampling on the Constitution.

[John F Kennedy III]

Now I have to remove Dean Heller from my Senators We Can Trust list. It's just Rand Paul and Mike Lee now...

Oh and the story would be funny if the rest of the bill didn't entail what it does.

[Feeding the Abscess]

At least cornholing my fellow Patriots when we're thrown into Guantanamo or a sister prison will be legal.

[pcosmar]

What makes you think that was an "Oops"?

There has to be some perks for the Stormtroopers rounding up US citizens.

[Anti Federalist]

The Senate on Thursday evening voted 93-7 to approve a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.

Lindsey?

[phill4paul]

Lindsey?

ROFL.

[Jingles]

Ah, if you don't laugh you cry. So I'll laugh.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[amy31416]

Lindsey?

Levin does support gay rights as far as I know. So it's nice that he threw Lindsey this bone, so to speak.

[amy31416]

Oh man, we should try to get a chain email together that could be forwarded to the military & their families, informing them of the new rights they have under this bill. And, of course, inform them of the other, less funny, parts.

Could go "viral."

[Danke]

Bestiality? Really?

[pcosmar]

Bestiality? Really?
Yeah really. That way US Troops can still do this shit when "Domestic Terrorists" are declared sub human.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/111024/gaddafi-sodomized-video-gaddafi-sodomy

[Pericles]

Oh man, we should try to get a chain email together that could be forwarded to the military & their families, informing them of the new rights they have under this bill. And, of course, inform them of the other, less funny, parts.

Could go "viral."

Or, maybe even motivate these people to read stuff before they vote on it.

[amy31416]

Or, maybe even motivate these people to read stuff before they vote on it.

LOL, don't be silly. Their vote is pre-determined whether they read it or not.

[ZanZibar]

This is righteous......


Did they even READ the bill?!

[heavenlyboy34]

Bestiality? Really?
Feeling left out? ;)

[heavenlyboy34]

Or, maybe even motivate these people to read stuff before they vote on it.
lolz...yeah, right. The Read The Bill act did wonders, eh? ;) ETA: n/m. Just noticed it never passed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_the_Bills_Act).

[oyarde]

Bestiality was illegal before ?

[pcosmar]

Bestiality was illegal before ?

Don't ask
Don't tell

[Pericles]

lolz...yeah, right. The Read The Bill act did wonders, eh? ;) ETA: n/m. Just noticed it never passed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_the_Bills_Act).

In a state where corruption abounds, laws must be very numerous.
Tacitus (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/tacitus153816.html)

[KingRobbStark]

Don't ask
Don't tell

That explains the excessive number of "bomb" sniffing dogs.

[FrankRep]

Bestiality was illegal before ?
Yes, this bill repealed the ban on bestiality.

[ryanmkeisling]

This is really fucked up. I have no problem with what humans do in the privacy of their own homes but sex with animals is gross...

[flightlesskiwi]

hasn't been solidified yet. we'll see what the house does with it.

btw: oral sex is considered a form of sodomy that is punishable via the UCMJ.

[pcosmar]

Perhaps it is an effort to increase enlistment.

Can't wait for the video Ads.
:rolleyes:

[Dr.3D]

Yes, this bill repealed the ban on bestiality.
Hummm..... we had a saying when I was in the military. This gives new meaning to the phrase "F***ing the dog."

[oyarde]

Yes, this bill repealed the ban on bestiality. I had no idea Frank , I do not recall ever reading that ....

[oyarde]

hasn't been solidified yet. we'll see what the house does with it.

btw: oral sex is considered a form of sodomy that is punishable via the UCMJ. Yeah , probably everything not the missionary ...

[moderate libertarian]

Senate Repeals Bans on Sodomy and Bestiality in the Military (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-military)


CNS News
December 1, 2011

The Senate on Thursday evening voted 93-7 to approve a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.



http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1867/show


..

Is this really true?


If military lost the next war, we know whar the reason for it will be given by SBC and other pro war Christian leaders.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I&feature=player_detailpage

[oyarde]

Is this really true?


If military lost the next war, we know whar the reason for it will be given by SBC and other pro war Christian leaders.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I&feature=player_detailpage Alright , what 7 voted against it ??

[eduardo89]

Bestiality? Really?

Is this making you consider a career in the armed forces?

[nigh_eve]

Not to question your sources or ability to read, but do you mind highlighting the specific content of the bill that relates to your post?

[GeorgiaAvenger]

This is really fucked up. I have no problem with what humans do in the privacy of their own homes but sex with animals is gross...
Agreed

[amy31416]

This is really fucked up. I have no problem with what humans do in the privacy of their own homes but sex with animals is gross...

Your goat said the same thing about you.

:p

[ZanZibar]

Not to question your sources or ability to read, but do you mind highlighting the specific content of the bill that relates to your post?Goto the Senate home page and type in the bill number. Then look at the full text of the bill and search for "sodomy". You'll see it there.

[pcosmar]

Not to question your sources or ability to read, but do you mind highlighting the specific content of the bill that relates to your post?
Did you read the linked article?

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-military


On Nov. 15, the Senate Armed Services Committee had unanimously approved S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes a provision to repeal Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).


Article 125 of the UCMJ makes it illegal to engage in both sodomy with humans and sex with animals.

It states: "(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

[nigh_eve]

This was the link in the original post: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1867/show but thanks for the additional info.

[PreDeadMan]

isn't this just more proof that these asshats don't read the bills they sign? they would sign a bill not knowing that it rounded up people and puts them into concentration camps to exterminate them tsk tsk tsk

[eduardo89]

Your goat said the same thing about you.

:p

Lol

Does this mean I can join the military with my Mexican pig?

[acptulsa]

So, now we know what the latest 'enhanced interrogation technique' is. Sodomy. Surprise, surprise.

[Feeding the Abscess]

So, now we know what the latest 'enhanced interrogation technique' is. Sodomy. Surprise, surprise.

Well, from the stuff that was leaked regarding Abu Ghraib, that's already a technique...

I think you're on to something, though. Worrying about what adults do in their own time is rather silly, especially when I have a sneaking suspicion that the removal of that portion of the code may be used for torture.

[amy31416]

Lol

Does this mean I can join the military with my Mexican pig?

With all the stuff going on down there, I think the pig's too smart to join.

[amy31416]

Well, from the stuff that was leaked regarding Abu Ghraib, that's already a technique...

I think you're on to something, though. Worrying about what adults do in their own time is rather silly, especially when I have a sneaking suspicion that the removal of that portion of the code may be used for torture.

Much worse, I think, than we can imagine. I've read numerous reports of possible rape of children in attempts to force a parent to talk.

[Danke]

Is this making you consider a career in the armed forces?

I think I have been out too long to reenlist.

[Tinnuhana]

Is it possible that this was struck because of redundancy with a new section of the bill? Just asking. Maybe the new section has "politically correct" wording so a search for "sodomy" or "bestiality" doesn't provide a link.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Is it possible that this was struck because of redundancy with a new section of the bill? Just asking. Maybe the new section has "politically correct" wording so a search for "sodomy" or "bestiality" doesn't provide a link.

Good point, and good question.

[Brian4Liberty]

btw: oral sex is considered a form of sodomy that is punishable via the UCMJ.

Yep. This was archaic code that needed to be removed. This is the type of thing that people get upset about when it still exists in State or local code.

And it is hard to believe that people on a libertarian or Ron Paul oriented forum would argue that we need laws like this, or would imply that lack of such a law equals advocacy of something.

Like the marijuana issue, it is perfectly consistent to not smoke it, to tell your kids not to smoke it, and to advocate that other people not smoke it, and still oppose having laws against it. We don't need a law for everything. As for the bestiality aspect of it, there are probably animal cruelty laws that will cover that.

[ZanZibar]

Is it possible that this was struck because of redundancy with a new section of the bill? Just asking. Maybe the new section has "politically correct" wording so a search for "sodomy" or "bestiality" doesn't provide a link.Does anyone know for sure if this is true? :confused:

[Anti Federalist]

Feeling left out? ;)

Oh holy flirking schnit.

I laughed so hard I hurt myself.

I owe you a rep when get some more ammo.

[AFPVet]

Yeah , probably everything not the missionary ...

They really didn't care much about what you did in your bedroom... if you were gay, they didn't want to know. According to the UCMJ, indecent acts do not include sex positions or oral sex... they include child porn, rape/sodomy....

[ZanZibar]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2hEN5MIs7jM/TquPkLP96MI/AAAAAAAABG4/rsfjhpfvvPc/s1600/sheep+and+goats.jpg

[flightlesskiwi]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2hEN5MIs7jM/TquPkLP96MI/AAAAAAAABG4/rsfjhpfvvPc/s1600/sheep+and+goats.jpg

this thread is getting ready to be put in the RPF basement, isn't it?

[oyarde]

Did you read the linked article?

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-military Unnatural carnal copulation ?

[Philhelm]

lolz...yeah, right. The Read The Bill act did wonders, eh? ;) ETA: n/m. Just noticed it never passed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_the_Bills_Act).

They just didn't get around to reading it...

[Philhelm]

Don't ask
Don't tell

See something.
Say something.

[Philhelm]

Ungulate Copulation
Military Joyful

[libertarian4321]

Senate Repeals Bans on Sodomy and Bestiality in the Military (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senate-approves-bill-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-us-military)


CNS News
December 1, 2011

The Senate on Thursday evening voted 93-7 to approve a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals--or bestiality.






U.S. Senate votes for Indefinite, Unconstitutional Detention (http://thenewamerican.com/opinion/959-jack-kenny/9993-us-senate-votes-for-indefinite-unconstitutional-detention)



The Senate has voted to authorize indefinite, unconstitutional detention of terror suspects in the United States and around the world — viewing even the U.S. as a battlefield and trampling on the Constitution.

This bill was full of all kinds of heinous, anti-liberty provisions, and the part that has you worked up is that some soldier might, theoretically, be able to have sex with a sheep?

Really?

Look, the UCMJ is an archaic document, full of ridiculous provisions, that, while on the books, are NEVER enforced.

I used to amuse myself when I was on CQ duty reading it. It's almost comical.

That provision, btw, made it illegal for any soldier to give or receive oral or anal sex with ANYONE, male or female, including his or her spouse. Do you really believe no member of the military ever receives a blow job?

I think your hysteria over the possibility of "man on goat" sex within the military is probably equally ridiculous.

That portion of the bill was a formality to remove a portion of the UCMJ that is never enforced, just to prevent anyone in the military from using it as a back-door method of persecuting gay soldiers.

There are plenty of reasons to oppose the bill- this provision is NOT one of them.

[amy31416]

All I know is that I fear for the military dogs.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/110504_110504_wardogs2BB.jpg

[ord33]

I wonder how ole Rick Santorum would have voted on this one! He is so vehemently against gays and things like this. He even mentioned it in a debate about bestiality. Yet, on the other hand, he is in strong favor of detaining terrorist suspects and violating our 4th amendment rights. I think that should be a debate question to him next time! Would you vote for this bill considering what it had inside it!

[pcosmar]

This bill was full of all kinds of heinous, anti-liberty provisions, and the part that has you worked up is that some soldier might, theoretically, be able to have sex with a sheep?



NO.
It is the very real possibility that soldiers may use sodomy on American citizens as a means of torture.
It has just been legalized.

I could care less about the sheep. Other than a possible follow up that declares suspects as "less than human".