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anarchy
11-28-2011, 06:21 AM
I see it everywhere.. it's their last resort. After him Paul will win.

JoshS
11-28-2011, 06:25 AM
After Newt falls, Ron wins.

bluesc
11-28-2011, 06:28 AM
I was about to create this thread :D. They are trying to solidify his support to ensure that Ron isn't the anti-Romney. One particular thing I found pretty disgusting was this..


While the endorsement itself made no mention of Romney and allowed that Gingrich was imperfect, Union Leader publisher Joe McQuaid suggested Sunday that they would reprise their tradition of near-daily editorials that reiterate full-throated support for their favored candidate and equally robust opposition toward his challengers.

“I think we will be sticking with our traditional approach,” McQuaid wrote in an email.


He is going to get the Des Moines Register endorsement too.

fearthereaperx
11-28-2011, 06:28 AM
I doubt it , I saw some Lady on tv say 'watch out for Santorum' in Iowa

fatjohn
11-28-2011, 06:31 AM
Cain has risen and fallen but there are still more dumbo´s voting for him than there are normal people voting for ron.

bluesc
11-28-2011, 06:32 AM
Cain has risen and fallen but there are still more dumbo´s voting for him than there are normal people voting for ron.

Voting only counts in the next state to vote, which is Iowa, and Ron is ahead of Cain there.

JoshS
11-28-2011, 06:33 AM
If Cain were a stock, I'd be'a sellin.

overcastpatriot
11-28-2011, 06:34 AM
The Today Show had a short piece on how Gingrich is the frontrunner in Iowa, despite having no organization and having done no campaigning there. They mentioned illegal immigration as a weakness. The little digs by the media are hints Newt will follow the traditional candidate boom and bust we have seen these season. This may turn out to be wishful thinking though, as it seems establishment organizations like the newspapers are willing to 'settle' for Newt.

The piece also mentioned Bachmann's robo-calls to central Iowa and Paul's mailings to much of the state.

Elwar
11-28-2011, 06:35 AM
These artificially inflated candidates are a great lesson on what happens with artificial inflation...

Newt bubble pop in 3....2...

mczerone
11-28-2011, 06:51 AM
I was about to create this thread :D. They are trying to solidify his support to ensure that Ron isn't the anti-Romney. One particular thing I found pretty disgusting was this..


While the endorsement itself made no mention of Romney and allowed that Gingrich was imperfect, Union Leader publisher Joe McQuaid suggested Sunday that they would reprise their tradition of near-daily editorials that reiterate full-throated support for their favored candidate and equally robust opposition toward his challengers.

“I think we will be sticking with our traditional approach,” McQuaid wrote in an email.

He is going to get the Des Moines Register endorsement too.

Note the undertone here: If there isn't a "daily challenge" printed against a non-endorsed candidate, then they don't really exist. I bet that these will be 90% Romney, 6% Cain, 4% Perry/Bachman/Santorum. They won't print a word against Ron, because they know that they can't find an issue about which NH disagrees with him, and they'll just pretend he's not really running.

wgadget
11-28-2011, 06:59 AM
Romney, Gingrich, Paul

One of these things is not like the other.

Which one is it?*












*Paul is the only one who is NOT a flip-flopper.

unknown
11-28-2011, 07:38 AM
TV commercials, media, signs?

Only thing Ive seen is news on this endorsement.

airborne373
11-28-2011, 07:46 AM
The Third Wave Contract with America.

Gingrich and his Marxist Swami Alvin Toffler:

"For a long time, I have been friends with Alvin and Heidi Toffler, the authors of Future Shock and The Third Way." - Newt Gingrich

"While I am a Republican leader in the Congress, I do not believe Republicans or the Congress have a monopoly on solving problems and helping America make the transformation necessary to enter the Third Wave information revolution. Democratic mayors like Norquist in Milwaukee and Rendel in Philadelphia are making real breakthroughs at the city level. Some of the best of Vice President Gore's efforts to reinvent government nibble in the right direction..."

From bad to worse! First the socialist work the Third Wave is seminal, and then Al Gore's streamlining plan, which centralized executive authority, and spread gun carrying police powers to agencies previously lacking them, nibbles in the right direction! Toward what direction is that? The total state? One has to wonder.

But there was a reason, we suspect, Gingrich felt this way.

Alvin Toffler writes: "In 1975 at the request of Congressional Democrats, we organized a conference on futurism and "anticipatory democracy" [the latter being the political game plan of the former] for senators and members of the House. We invited Newt Gingrich, probably the only Republican among the many futurists we knew. He attended.

‘That conference led to the creation of the Congressional Clearinghouse on the Future, a group eventually cochaired by a young senator name Al Gore, now vice president."

Link (http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/1199third1.htm) to Newt Gingrich's direct involvement with Toffler and his love of "controlling the future through Marxism."

Dr.3D
11-28-2011, 07:53 AM
It would seem this plan is right on time. Soon enough to be gaining traction before the first state votes and short enough before that vote to perhaps keep much dirt from sticking. If anything is to bring him down, it will have to happen pretty quickly.

KingNothing
11-28-2011, 07:58 AM
It would seem this plan is right on time. Soon enough to be gaining traction before the first state votes and short enough before that vote to perhaps keep much dirt from sticking. If anything is to bring him down, it will have to happen pretty quickly.

Things happen quickly. By the time the next round of debates is upon us, Newt will have to answer for a lot of the crummy things he's done politically and personally.
I suspect that by the time Christmas rolls around, Newt will be falling. ...if not... well.... four more years of Obama. There's no way such an unlikable bastion of the Old Guard will be able to take down our struggling president.

sanssq
11-28-2011, 07:59 AM
Actually they are pumping us.

matt0611
11-28-2011, 08:08 AM
LMAO, Gingrich up to 24% on intrade now.

This whole thing is oh so very predictable, we all saw it a mile away too, we called it :D
Newt will make a spectacular fall in the next 2-4 weeks, mark my words.
I was right about Bachmann, Perry, and Cain.

LibertyEagle
11-28-2011, 08:18 AM
LMAO, Gingrich up to 24% on intrade now.

This whole thing is oh so very predictable, we all saw it a mile away too, we called it :D
Newt will make a spectacular fall in the next 2-4 weeks, mark my words.
I was right about Bachmann, Perry, and Cain.

I hope so. Gingrich scares me even more than Obama and that's quite a lot.

tbone717
11-28-2011, 08:19 AM
LMAO, Gingrich up to 24% on intrade now.

This whole thing is oh so very predictable, we all saw it a mile away too, we called it :D
Newt will make a spectacular fall in the next 2-4 weeks, mark my words.
I was right about Bachmann, Perry, and Cain.

You are right. 2-4 weeks is about the honeymoon phase for the media created "frontrunners". The timing, I believe, works out perfectly for Paul. In all honesty the majority of people that are voting in IA really aren't paying all that much attention to things. Sure IA and NH are more into the race than say the rest of the country, but when you truly understand who is the average GOP voter you realize that 90% of what we read and hear doesn't even register to the average voter. When January rolls around and people are heading into the voting booths they will essentially have two choices that have been consistent throughout these last few months - Romney and Paul. Everyone else by that time will have come and gone and really won't be much of a factor.

Student Of Paulism
11-28-2011, 08:23 AM
It's really sad to see, considering all this man has done and has supported throughout his time, that people even would consider voting for him, let alone actually doing it. If people like Newt, Herman and Mitt were running for potus back in the 40s and 50s, they would have been kicked to the curb in seconds and wouldn't even be given the time of day. The people were much more proactive/patriotic back then and much more informed then they are now, and the media was nowhere near as biased and manipulative.

Eh, all i know is if this pos gets elected, im outta here.

I won't be sticking around and will have my bags packed, because this here is what will happen if this war-mongering, closet communist gets elected:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EO9y4rGxvk

Carole
11-28-2011, 08:32 AM
Excerpt from article below emphasizes Gingrich's faithfulness to the communist ideology.

From:
Technology, sovereignty and the Third Wave
http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0601thirdwayp1.htm
By Steve Farrell


Introduction
On November 11, 1994, in a post-election victory speech, Republican House member Newt Gingrich revealed to Congress what his Contract With America, his Republican Revolution, was in fact about. (1) He called it the Third Way, a "progressive" movement he would interchangeably refer to as the Third Way, the Third Wave, or Conservative Futurism in speech after speech from that point forward. He recommended the reading of two books, for those ambitious enough to decipher its meaning: the first, "The Third Wave" by "ex"-Marxist Alvin Toffler, and the second, "The Tragedy of American Compassion" by "ex"-Marxist Marvin Olasky, founding father of George W. Bush's Compassionate Conservatism.




Consider Plato's list of virtues.

The 'Virtuous' Aims of Plato's Third Wave

Private property must be abolished, the wealthy hated, and their wealth redistributed by state mandate. (3)
Children belong to, and are born to serve, the state. The influence of parents is noxious and disruptive to the interest of the state; therefore, every child should be raised in government nurseries, far from home, without knowledge of who its parents are, and without the parents having knowledge of who their offspring are. Every child becomes the common property of every parent in the city, who possess the collective duty to watch over them. (4)
Private education, like traditional parenting, is at the very headwaters of falsehood and social strife. It must be eliminated and replaced by a closely monitored state school system. (5)
Old values, passed down through song, history and children's storybooks, are equally a source of trouble. These should be rewritten to discredit and erase the old virtues and to exalt and enthrone the new. (6)
Frivolous children's games make for foolish children. New games should be developed which emphasize law and order. (7)
Private industry is self-serving. The state has a moral obligation to move toward the absolute control of all industry for the benefit of the whole. (8)
Class mobility is a revolutionary idea which threatens the stability of the state and the pre-eminence of true philosophy. A strict caste system and the elimination of career choice is the answer. (9)
Talent must never be allowed to wander or be wasted. Early on, children must be identified and channeled by the state, for the benefit of the state, into careers selected by the state, with only a "few" promising students selected for career or class crossover. (10)
Equality is preposterous and dangerous, but useful during the Third Wave. During this phase, extreme views on equality are to be promoted by the state and by wise opportunists in order to, all the more quickly, overthrow the existing order. (11)
Under the guise of equality, women ought to be exploited in the same way. First to foment "class war" during the Third Wave (women's roles are reversed to men's). Next, to be promptly put into their place as part of a "community of women" to be shared collectively by male guardians, war heroes and rulers for pleasure or offspring. (12)
Selective breeding is beneficial to the state (13), as are the legalization and encouragement of recreational sex and rape across class lines.
Unwanted babies, inferior babies, deformed babies (14) and the adult handicapped are an unnecessary drag on the prosperity and well-being of society. They should be left to die. Unproductive adults, likewise, should be terminated. (15)
Homosexuality is morally acceptable, and homosexual rape of lower-class males and boys is a right of rulers, guardians and war heroes. (16)
Only a very few men are foreordained to understand life and the higher good. All the rest are the equivalent of dumb sheep. A few "wise" ones should be appointed "philosopher kings," even "saviors," by the state, and given absolute power to control every facet of the helplessly lost lives of the masses. (17)
Absolute loyalty to the government is vital for the success and safety of society. Thus, the establishment of a state-sanctioned KGB-like network is an essential good. Citizens and leaders must be watched and intentionally goaded into committing crimes against the state, into taking advantage of sexual opportunities, and into being tried by every method imaginable in order to weed out those who are not loyal and not fit for duty, from those who are. (18)
Wealth is not essential to the safety of the state. When at war with free states, the enemy will display economic superiority. But not to fear. Their wealth is their weakness, and can and will be used against them. The divide and conquer/class warfare tactic is the choice of the virtuous. (19)
Lastly, virtue rejects troublemaking democracy (pure or direct democracy) as an end, yet shrewdly identifies it as the quickest, surest route to promoting the communist view of equality of ends. (20) During the transitional phase, the virtuous reformer will utilize democracy to:
1. Degenerate traditional morality and foster fierce intolerance against it.

2. Lead the dumb masses (like "dumb asses") by the nose to trample on each other's rights in the blind pursuit of their own supposed rights.

3. Legitimize the government's "creeping into houses" through the creation of "new" rights which must be monitored.

4. Create moral chaos, mob and factional spirit, revolution (21) and anarchy.

5. Eventually, bring about such a violent state of uncertainty and fear that the people will, out of necessity, vote themselves the most absolute of tyrannies (22), that of the democratic king, in order to restore order, peace and security. (23, 24)

These were the ultimate goals, the communist goals, of Plato's Third Wave, the place where all this Third Wave/Third Way business began.



Alvin and Heidi Toffler
Creating a New Civilization
The Third Wave
Future Shock

Constitution “must die and be replaced”
Gingrich

pacu44
11-28-2011, 08:35 AM
I see it everywhere.. it's their last resort. After him Paul will win.

Frothy and Huntsman are the last to get pumped... for us it is no one but Paul, for the establishment it is anyone but Paul...

KingNothing
11-28-2011, 08:43 AM
Frothy and Huntsman are the last to get pumped... for us it is no one but Paul, for the establishment it is anyone but Paul...


Huntsman has been pushed since he announced his candidacy. It just hasn't stuck. Frothy.... well... Frothy is too crazy and contemptible for mainstream success.
After Newt, Paul is what's left if Joe Republican decides to go for another anti-Romney candidate. That's not a guarantee, btw.

sailingaway
11-28-2011, 08:47 AM
I read a couple of articles that Gingrich causes a split in the special interest groups, that GOP party establishment are terrified that if he wins the nomination he'll be skewered so badly in the general that it won't just be a matter of losing the White House, the GOP could easily loose the Senate as the GOP is painted with his brush.

All the more reason to get out of Ron's way and play fair, so he gets to showcase his positions for the public to review. If Ron Paul wins the nomination, he polls VERY well against Obama, will drain some of Obama's activists who are motivated by antiwar or civil liberties reasons, and will revitalize the GOP base. Painting the GOP with HIS record.... well....

sailingaway
11-28-2011, 08:49 AM
Huntsman has been pushed since he announced his candidacy. It just hasn't stuck. Frothy.... well... Frothy is too crazy and contemptible for mainstream success.
After Newt, Paul is what's left if Joe Republican decides to go for another anti-Romney candidate. That's not a guarantee, btw.

I honestly like Santorum, so long as he never gets any power, anywhere. Sure, he's bigoted and completely insensitive to the horrors and moral, not to mention economic, issues involved in war. However if he can't impose his views on anyone, he's at least a guy who has his big government all the time principles, in social issues AND in economic and warfare issues, and he sticks to them. It just isn't a package that is very attractive to voters.

69360
11-28-2011, 08:58 AM
He is going to get the Des Moines Register endorsement too.

I think Bachman or Santorum.

69360
11-28-2011, 09:00 AM
I honestly like Santorum, so long as he never gets any power, anywhere. Sure, he's bigoted and completely insensitive to the horrors and moral, not to mention economic, issues involved in war. However if he can't impose his views on anyone, he's at least a guy who has his big government all the time principles, in social issues AND in economic and warfare issues, and he sticks to them. It just isn't a package that is very attractive to voters.

Santorum is honest, I don't agree with him, but I do believe he tells the truth and won't lie for political gain. Same with Bachmann and Huntsman.

pacu44
11-28-2011, 09:06 AM
Huntsman has been pushed since he announced his candidacy. It just hasn't stuck. Frothy.... well... Frothy is too crazy and contemptible for mainstream success.
After Newt, Paul is what's left if Joe Republican decides to go for another anti-Romney candidate. That's not a guarantee, btw.

I agree with you, but those are the establisments last hopes (not good ones)

RDM
11-28-2011, 09:12 AM
I hope so. Gingrich scares me even more than Obama and that's quite a lot.

This^^^^^^ I'm getting tired of carrying my barf bag around 24/7

sailingaway
11-28-2011, 09:19 AM
I was about to create this thread :D. They are trying to solidify his support to ensure that Ron isn't the anti-Romney. One particular thing I found pretty disgusting was this..



He is going to get the Des Moines Register endorsement too.

You have got to be kidding. Supporting extension of the Patriot Act and torture? Lobbyist (or historian) for Big Pharma and Big Oil? Cheerleader for NAFTA? I don't know the Des Moines Register all that well, but for the campaign, but I thought they were liberal/moderate. Would their readers stand for Rent-a-Speaker as endorsee?

I honestly thought Ron might be the beneficiary of a 'non-endorsement', sort of a 'we can't endorse him because we are terrified of change' BUT that he is the only one who is consistent and really has a plan, like it or don't, to address the economic position we are in. In their heart of hearts, I think they want to endorse Huntsman (the other Romney) but would probably settle for Romney.

Okie RP fan
11-28-2011, 09:20 AM
Varney on Fox Business has been pushing Newt pretty hard.

Fox Nation had three or four Newt stories on their front page all weekend long.

Drudge is posting positive stories regarding Newt.

The difference between Newt, Perry, and Cain, is that they've intended to push someone such as Newt all along. He is the epitome of an establishment politician. He's dangerous. We must continue to work on family and friends daily, and keep pushing in Iowa.

bluesc
11-28-2011, 09:22 AM
You have got to be kidding. Supporting extension of the Patriot Act and torture? Lobbyist (or historian) for Big Pharma and Big Oil? Cheerleader for NAFTA? I don't know the Des Moines Register all that well, but for the campaign, but I thought they were liberal/moderate. Would their readers stand for Rent-a-Speaker as endorsee?

Newt is pretty liberal himself. They endorsed McCain last time around, and the only difference is that he was anti-torture. Their readers stood for Mr "100 years in Iraq" as endorsee.

LibertyEagle
11-28-2011, 09:27 AM
The campaign (ours) needs money, BADLY, to execute their strategic plans for Iowa and New Hampshire. If anyone has any ideas of how we can help to raise it, now is the time. We are going to be very sad if our guy doesn't take Iowa and we haven't done everything humanly possible.

bluesc
11-28-2011, 09:29 AM
The campaign (ours) needs money, BADLY, to execute their strategic plans for Iowa and New Hampshire. If anyone has any ideas of how we can help to raise it, now is the time. We are going to be very sad if our guy doesn't take Iowa and we haven't done everything humanly possible.

As posted in another thread, I came up with a pretty good idea. Iowa themed ticker rolling until the end of November. We had a thread going, we emailed asking for the ticker, and they didn't deliver. They want to take the lead on fundraising, I guess. Not much to be done.

PauliticsPolitics
11-28-2011, 09:30 AM
Pumping Gingrich
A film I am certainly not interested in.

speciallyblend
11-28-2011, 09:39 AM
we have to destroy newt with his own record in nh and iowa, did you guys just see the BULL____ on fox with the one guy from the nh paper endorsing the newter? i had to turn it off. We must destroy Newt and Romney in NH and IOWA. We must expose newt as newt exposes romney! newt is the devil bobbie bouche!!

speciallyblend
11-28-2011, 09:41 AM
As posted in another thread, I came up with a pretty good idea. Iowa themed ticker rolling until the end of November. We had a thread going, we emailed asking for the ticker, and they didn't deliver. They want to take the lead on fundraising, I guess. Not much to be done.

this is a great idea,email josh lowry, tell him kenny said make it happen and get the ball rolling :) ,seriously though if we get rpf and daily to apply pressure. who is gonna say no to more money?? dec santas going to iowa? type of them moneybomb presents for ron paul for america? who wouldn't want to put a present under the ron paul christmas tree?

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Original_Intent
11-28-2011, 10:42 AM
If Gingrich drops before Iowa Caucus (almost a certainty) I suspect they will recycle Bachmann or Cain. I'm leaning towards Bachmann, if she doesn't go broke first.

And if it is looking like a Ron Paul win, they may even pump Romney.

LibertyEagle
11-28-2011, 10:44 AM
As posted in another thread, I came up with a pretty good idea. Iowa themed ticker rolling until the end of November. We had a thread going, we emailed asking for the ticker, and they didn't deliver. They want to take the lead on fundraising, I guess. Not much to be done.

You are talking about a ticker on the campaign website, right? If so, that alone isn't going to get it done.

Are you saying you just give up, because they don't have a ticker up? Seriously?

bluesc
11-28-2011, 10:48 AM
You are talking about a ticker on the campaign website, right? If so, that alone isn't going to get it done.

Are you saying you just give up, because they don't have a ticker up? Seriously?

Yes, a ticker. Their website has over 200,000 unique viewers a month, and we all know it encourages people to donate. We had momentum after the awesome polls and with the Iowa themed ticker, promotion would have been much easier.

No, I'm not saying give up. I've been trying to get people to donate non-stop, but there's only so much you can do. A ticker is a passive effort since people visit the campaign site when they learn about him, and many of those people are beyond reach when promoting fundraising.

SpiritOf1776_J4
11-28-2011, 10:48 AM
If Gingrich drops before Iowa Caucus (almost a certainty) I suspect they will recycle Bachmann or Cain. I'm leaning towards Bachmann, if she doesn't go broke first.

And if it is looking like a Ron Paul win, they may even pump Romney.

Look for Cain's stock story to come out then.

jcarcinogen
11-28-2011, 10:51 AM
On the Sunday news shows Paul was never mentioned but Huntsman was mentioned a few times even when the same bs "third party" talk came up on Chris Wallace's Sunday Fox show, he mentioned Huntsman as if he was apparent third party choice.

JohnGalt1225
11-28-2011, 10:54 AM
Santorum is honest, I don't agree with him, but I do believe he tells the truth and won't lie for political gain. Same with Bachmann and Huntsman.
I can agree with Huntsman but I'm not sure about Bachmann. She is either just plain wrong a lot, or she lies quite a bit.

G-Wohl
11-28-2011, 12:00 PM
Santorum is honest, I don't agree with him, but I do believe he tells the truth and won't lie for political gain. Same with Bachmann and Huntsman.

Bachman??? Give me a break - she's one of the most disingenuous politicians around today.

69360
11-28-2011, 12:04 PM
Bachman??? Give me a break - she's one of the most disingenuous politicians around today.

Stupidity doesn't equal dishonesty. She needs to vet her ideas before she parrots them to the media, but I've seen no deliberate attempts at misinformation.

affa
11-28-2011, 12:07 PM
I'm concerned Huntsman is next in line; not for any real reason... I tend to agree with the idea that he's off the table. But last week (or two weeks ago?) he was on SNL during the interview segment... and it just felt odd. Like - why did they have him on? Why is he pushing New Hampshire so hard? It felt so out of place that it got me thinking it might be part of a bigger plan. I'm likely reading too much into it, but something about it just... didn't sit right with me.

JamesButabi
11-28-2011, 12:13 PM
I'm concerned Huntsman is next in line; not for any real reason... I tend to agree with the idea that he's off the table. But last week (or two weeks ago?) he was on SNL during the interview segment... and it just felt odd. Like - why did they have him on? Why is he pushing New Hampshire so hard? It felt so out of place that it got me thinking it might be part of a bigger plan. I'm likely reading too much into it, but something about it just... didn't sit right with me.

There is a good block of anti-war / civil liberty vote in NH. Huntsman is the only alternative available besides Ron (hopefully Gary endorses pre-NH as I know quite a few Gary supporters as well there). Its apparent that Iowa should do well. If Ron does well in NH as well that's some serious momentum.

RDM
11-28-2011, 12:34 PM
There is a good block of anti-war / civil liberty vote in NH. Huntsman is the only alternative available besides Ron (hopefully Gary endorses pre-NH as I know quite a few Gary supporters as well there). Its apparent that Iowa should do well. If Ron does well in NH as well that's some serious momentum.

Why would Gary Johnson endorse someone when he has plans of going 3rd party?

ctiger2
11-28-2011, 12:48 PM
Santorum is honest, I don't agree with him, but I do believe he tells the truth and won't lie for political gain. Same with Bachmann and Huntsman.

I agree with your Santorum assessment. I disagree with Bachmann and Huntsman being honest though. You can tell by what they say in the debates that both of them will knowingly and willfully lie to gain political power. I can see it plain as day.

Fredom101
11-28-2011, 01:11 PM
I see it everywhere.. it's their last resort. After him Paul will win.

I accurately called this 3 weeks ago. :)
Cain's cracks were showing and Newt is a household name.
The media and their controls are so predictable, that it's simply boring.

South Park Fan
11-28-2011, 04:48 PM
LMAO, Gingrich up to 24% on intrade now.

This whole thing is oh so very predictable, we all saw it a mile away too, we called it :D
Newt will make a spectacular fall in the next 2-4 weeks, mark my words.
I was right about Bachmann, Perry, and Cain.

Can we be certain that the Newt bubble is going to pop? He's already double what Cain had on Intrade at his peak, and there's not much time to expose Gingrich for what he is.

Aigik
11-28-2011, 04:49 PM
They still have Santorum and Bachmann. I wouldn't be surprised if they got desperate enough to try to pump up one of them when Gingrich falls.

Lisa100
11-28-2011, 07:32 PM
MSNBC is definitely pushing for Huntsman especially on Morning Joe and they mentioned that many states have open primaries and that Huntsman can do well in those states. Mika said she would love to see Huntsman vs. Romney. You know who her father is? Everyone besides Paul is corrupt. Newt is one of the most dangerous since he sounds smart to the average person. I think Huntsman is only being funded so he can take points away from Ron in NH. Gary Johnson will be a huge disappointment if he doesn't drop out of the race and endorse Ron before the Iowa caucus. He has zero chance of winning anyway!

Knightmare
11-28-2011, 07:42 PM
Gingrich is a Sly Fox and he sounds very intelligent. He knows how to speak well and he is blunt. People like that and RESPECT that regardless of his checkered past. We need to Push the Liberal in Conservative Clothing, Now!

FreedomProsperityPeace
11-28-2011, 08:17 PM
I read a couple of articles that Gingrich causes a split in the special interest groups, that GOP party establishment are terrified that if he wins the nomination he'll be skewered so badly in the general that it won't just be a matter of losing the White House, the GOP could easily loose the Senate as the GOP is painted with his brush.Which is why I don't understand this push behind Gingrich. They must be trying to run out the clock going into Iowa. Suck up all the media airtime with Gingrich so Ron Paul can't get any. Then everyone jumps on the Romney train for NH and beyond.

Gingrich has so many holes in his armor, he has no chance to survive a general election.

anarchy
11-30-2011, 05:56 AM
I accurately called this 3 weeks ago. :)
Cain's cracks were showing and Newt is a household name.
The media and their controls are so predictable, that it's simply boring.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?327206-All-candidates-are-idiots-media-only-has-gingrich-left-(and-paul-to-ignore)

Me too my friend :) It's way too obvious.. unfortunately this is what the USA ended up with.. totally (and more and more overtly) controlled media

Muwahid
11-30-2011, 06:08 AM
How can Newt win the republican nomination with stuff like this in his past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

Also note, his massive head.

Hospitaller
11-30-2011, 07:22 AM
He is the epitome of an establishment politician. He's dangerous.

Just behind Romney and perry, Newt is the worst case establisment scenario.

wgadget
11-30-2011, 09:10 AM
Which is why I don't understand this push behind Gingrich. They must be trying to run out the clock going into Iowa. Suck up all the media airtime with Gingrich so Ron Paul can't get any. Then everyone jumps on the Romney train for NH and beyond.

Gingrich has so many holes in his armor, he has no chance to survive a general election.

Well...MAYBE they're rooting for Obama? He's doing swimmingly well with this NWO thing.