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speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 05:55 AM
saw this over at daily paul, thought rpf would like to see this:) good stuff,just in case the gop blows it!!!

Submitted by jiradog (http://www.dailypaul.com/user/5644) on Sat, 11/26/2011 - 09:17in

Ron Paul 2012 (http://www.dailypaul.com/forums/ron-paul-2012)

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It appears that he is going to be drafted by Americans Elect (https://secure.americanselect.org/). I don't know if he can decline and refuse to run or not. I suppose he could. This organization is obtaining ballot access for some candidate to be selected by a secure online convention to be held in June. This is a big deal! This organization is basically forcing a third party run by someone and Ron Paul is the most tracked candidate. I just learned about this last night. So in other words, wether he wins the primary or not he will be on the ballot in November if he is chosen by that online convention, and he is the top choice by far now.
https://secure.americanselect.org/candidates

(https://secure.americanselect.org/candidates)http://www.dailypaul.com/189167/ron-paul-is-likely-going-to-be-on-the-ballot-in-all-50-states-on-nov-6-2012#comment-1981855

k (https://secure.americanselect.org/candidates)inda gets me excited in a Rongasm way!!! ooo do not forget to join this website and help mold the convention! We already are:)
ps this is something i joined when it came out and i signed up to be a delegate!

Elfshadow
11-27-2011, 06:03 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#45406374

Dear god they are trying to railroad this guy.

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:07 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#45406374

Dear god they are trying to railroad this guy.

just so you know american elect was formed way before anyone was trying to get ron paul to run 3rd party, so no tin foil hats please on this thread. It will be upto the gop if Ron paul runs or not!! It is up to me and you on who gets to wins this online convention.

bottom line the gop will make its own bed!!

just saw the hardball interview, i kinda like this line. Why are you scared of Ron Paul, Priceless:)

Elfshadow
11-27-2011, 06:11 AM
just so you know american elect was formed way before anyone was trying to get ron paul to run 3rd party, so no tin foil hats please on this thread. It will be upto the gop if Ron paul runs or not!!

Oh I know. I have an account with Americans Elect I'm one of them that's tracking Paul, mainly because he has said his main problem with running as a third party candidate is that of having to spend money to get on the state ballots, and this removes that.

oh the railroading comment is about what they do to the guy from Americans Elect in that video not about trying to make Paul run.

Tinnuhana
11-27-2011, 06:11 AM
So, it just gives us the option,if Ron is for some strange reason not nominated, to vote for him without writing him in, so the votes will be counted. Is this your take on this?

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:15 AM
Oh I know. I have an account with Americans Elect I'm one of them that's tracking Paul, mainly because he has said his main problem with running as a third party candidate is that of having to spend money to get on the state ballots, and this removes that.

oh the railroading comment is about what they do to the guy from Americans Elect in that video not about trying to make Paul run.

kewl i wasn't sure what angle you were going hehe:) i thought the guy did great against chris matthews and the other guy!!

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:18 AM
So, it just gives us the option,if Ron is for some strange reason not nominated, to vote for him without writing him in, so the votes will be counted. Is this your take on this?

the scenario i see is if the gop alienates ron paul aka not nominating the best choice to win:) Then we as online delegates have the abilty to nominate Ron paul and he will be on all 50 state ballots:) I am glad ron paul has not shut the door might wake the gop up to nominate him;) . either way even if ron paul gets the gop nomination. we can still win this online convention and get more support for Ron paul. I would assume if ron paul gets the gop nomination and wins this online convention. They would just nullify the 50 ballots and we would all vote gop with the help of this group if we win that nomination to. I am exicted about this. It gives us an option if the gop does not nominate Ron Paul, NO ONE BUT PAUL!!!!!

Elfshadow
11-27-2011, 06:18 AM
So, it just gives us the option,if Ron is for some strange reason not nominated, to vote for him without writing him in, so the votes will be counted. Is this your take on this?

It will also give him an inroad to the debates if he is polling more then 15% without having to spend a dime of his own camps Money. Americans Elect is going to be the big deal this election cycle if paul gets the nod or not because I think it will permanently open up a independent spot on the ticket for someone.

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:19 AM
So, it just gives us the option,if Ron is for some strange reason not nominated, to vote for him without writing him in, so the votes will be counted. Is this your take on this?

yes votes would be counted on all 50 state ballots and there would be no need to spend a dime on ballot access leaving more money to promote his run if the gop fails common sense!
ps make sure you join this site and speak up:) i joined when it first came out!!

Elfshadow
11-27-2011, 06:20 AM
the scenario i see is if the gop alienates ron paul aka not nominating the best choice to win:) Then we as online delegates have the abilty to nominate Ron paul and he will be on all 5p state ballots:) I am glad ron paul has not shut the door might wake the gop up to nominate him;) . either way even if ron paul gets the gop nomination. we cna still win this online convetion and get more support for Ron paul. I would assume if ron paul gets the gop nomination and wins this online convetion. They would just nullify the 50 ballots and we would all vote gop with the help of this group if we win that nomination to. I am exicted about this. It gives us an option if the gop does not nominate Ron Paul, NO ONE BUT PAUL!!!!!

I don't think thats how this is going to work. They will pick someone else if Ron is the GOP nominee. Hopefully they will steal votes from Obama.

bluesc
11-27-2011, 06:21 AM
"Why are you so afraid of Ron Paul?!"

That was a beautiful line. Anyway, some of the people running this organization make it very questionable. They have the final say on who their nominee is.

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:24 AM
side note , you can see the fear in chris and the other guys eyes:) They know who would win that nomination. I could see the fear spilling out of my laptop:) made me smile:)

Working Poor
11-27-2011, 06:24 AM
A friend of mine sent me a link to a site that is starting up an independent candidate campaign Ron Paul is on the candidate list and guess what he is ahead in votes.

Here is the link

http://www.americanselect.org/

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:25 AM
"Why are you so afraid of Ron Paul?!"

That was a beautiful line. Anyway, some of the people running this organization make it very questionable. They have the final say on who their nominee is.

yeah i loved that:) called them both out live:) I love that as a new tag line:) for the grassroots:)

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:26 AM
A friend of mine sent me a link to a site that is starting up an independent candidate campaign Ron Paul is on the candidate list and guess what he is ahead in votes.

Here is the link

http://www.americanselect.org/

yep get all of your friends to join asap no matter what party they are in;) We are gonna win with the gop or without, NO ONE BUT PAUL, the gop better shape up quick:)

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:30 AM
I don't think thats how this is going to work. They will pick someone else if Ron is the GOP nominee. Hopefully they will steal votes from Obama.

maybe not but we are the ones that choose thru an online convention. If we all decide to still nominate someone that has been nominated in his own party. i would think the people have spoke:) we will see, either way this is exciting and the gop establishment and chris matthews should lose lots of sleep i can only hope! i hope it scares them to death;)

if we choose Ron paul and they ignore it. Then that makes them no different then status quo obama or gop est! Folks would see that i hope!!

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 06:34 AM
A friend of mine sent me a link to a site that is starting up an independent candidate campaign Ron Paul is on the candidate list and guess what he is ahead in votes.

Here is the link

http://www.americanselect.org/

yep, we just have to make sure the justin bieber fans do not over run Ron paul on this site:) let's slam this site with people:) one at a time,one vote at a time. Lets run away with this!! after all Ron Paul is the People's Choice!!!

Elfshadow
11-27-2011, 06:40 AM
yep, we just have to make sure the justin bieber fans do not over run Ron paul on this site:) let's slam this site with people:) one at a time,one vote at a time. Lets run away with this!! after all Ron Paul is the People's Choice!!!

You actually have to be a registered Voter to Vote in this is my understanding. That will eliminate alot of the noise.

Warrior_of_Freedom
11-27-2011, 06:42 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#45406374

Dear god they are trying to railroad this guy.
Interrupting while somebody is talking gives Chris Matthews hard balls.

Btw, how do we prove we're a registered voter?

cindy25
11-27-2011, 07:21 AM
in many states candidates can be on more than 1 ballot line

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 07:24 AM
in many states candidates can be on more than 1 ballot line

nice to hear, on comments over on dp a few think it is a nwo set up but wouldn't the irony be great if we were able to win the nomination in the gop and win this one to haha. either way if the gop does not nominate ron paul and we were able to get him nominated using this site? The irony would be sweet but the major bottom line for the gop is you better nominate Ron Paul or the gop will elect obama!

oo the irony if the gop does not nominate Ron paul and we used a so-called nwo site as some dp members say and nominated ron paul. If ron paul is leading this site and they do not nominate him. Then it shows they are no different then the corrupt gop! Either way Liberty Wins in the LONG RUN!!!

Warrior_of_Freedom
11-27-2011, 07:30 AM
nice to hear, on comments over on dp a few think it is a nwo set up but wouldn't the irony be great if we were able to win the nomination in the gop and win this one to haha. either way if the gop does not nominate ron paul and we were able to get him nominated using this site? The irony would be sweet but the major bottom line for the gop is you better nominate Ron Paul or the gop will elect obama!

oo the irony if the gop does not nominate Ron paul and we used a so-called nwo site as some dp members say and nominated ron paul. If ron paul is leading this site and they do not nominate him. Then it shows they are no different then the corrupt gop! Either way Liberty Wins in the LONG RUN!!!
TPTB in the GOP could give less of a shit if Obama is elected as long as an honest man isn't elected, A.K.A Ron Paul.

Working Poor
11-27-2011, 08:53 AM
yep get all of your friends to join asap no matter what party they are in;) We are gonna win with the gop or without, NO ONE BUT PAUL, the gop better shape up quick:)

Yea the GOP must be shaking in their shoes. Ha Ha ;D

A liberal friend of mine sent me the link he said he would vote for Ron if he did not have to vote republican.

specsaregood
11-27-2011, 09:03 AM
Yeah, as if a Rothschild organization is gonna allow Dr. Paul to be their nominee. LOL

RDM
11-27-2011, 09:06 AM
Yeah, as if a Rothschild organization is gonna allow Dr. Paul to be their nominee. LOL

I was thinking the same thing. Have you seen half of the board members are CFR?

Paulitics 2011
11-27-2011, 09:15 AM
Regardless, we must win the GOP nomination if we really want to win.

olehounddog
11-27-2011, 10:02 AM
Only 13% say stick to principles.

National Results (weighted by priority)Which of the statements below is closest to your personal view?

A13%
It is very important to stick to principles.

B18%
It is more important for politicians in Congress to stick to the principles and values on which they campaigned .

C67%
It is more important for politicians in Congress to work with members of the other party and make consensus policy.

D2%
Unsure .

PeacePlan
11-27-2011, 10:55 AM
This is great we will at last get Ron Paul on the ballot no matter what they try and do to him (GOP, MSM etc.). I just made a Get Ron Paul on the ballot event on facebook and invited all my friends to become delegates and sign up. This made my day, this time maybe his name will be on the ballot and I won't have to write it in.

Captain America
11-27-2011, 11:41 AM
has anyone went through the quiz the results are very big government.

spladle
11-27-2011, 11:51 AM
Was anyone else extremely impressed by that Elliott Ackerman guy? Thought he handled himself very well, especially given the overtly hostile tone of the interviewers.

bill1971
11-27-2011, 04:11 PM
Good, will save me the trouble of a write in.

speciallyblend
11-27-2011, 04:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE30TH6Y7cI<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE30TH6Y7cI">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE30TH6Y7cI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE30TH6Y7cI)

Aratus
11-27-2011, 04:35 PM
!!!

kylejack
11-27-2011, 04:52 PM
No guarantee AE will nominate Ron Paul.

anaconda
11-27-2011, 05:19 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#45406374

Dear god they are trying to railroad this guy.

WOW! If I ever had any doubts that Chris Matthews was a statist foot soldier, this interview removed them completely. His adamant assertion that "people need to make a choice" between the two parties was laughable and telling. That he disapproved of Andersen and Nader was actually surprising to me. I really would have guessed that Matthews would have simply analyzed the popularity of a third party candidate as a legitimate expression of the will of The People and their dissatisfaction with the limited option of the Democrat or the Republican. Unfortunately, the Americans Elect spokesman didn't attack Matthews logic as dramatically as he could have.

anaconda
11-27-2011, 05:26 PM
No guarantee AE will nominate Ron Paul.

Hypothetically, if Ron Paul wanted to run as an independent at some point next year, would this create a problem by making Ron Paul appear on ballots in duplicate? And therefore possibly split his vote? In other words, if Ron achieved 50 state ballot access as an independent and then this Americans Elect also made him their candidate, could this be problematic? For example, in 2008, Ron appeared as the candidate on a couple of ballots, against his wishes. There was nothing he could do about it (Montana and I forget the other state...Louisiana maybe?).

anaconda
11-27-2011, 05:35 PM
Good, will save me the trouble of a write in.

I don't believe write-ins are counted unless the candidate in an "official" write in candidate (Dr. Paul was an official write in candidate in my state of CA in 2008, for example. But I believe this was an exception.). So I don't know that "writing in" Ron Paul serves any purpose that staying home wouldn't.

Lavitz
11-27-2011, 06:03 PM
has anyone went through the quiz the results are very big government.

Yes, I'm going through the quiz right now and it seems 80% of the respondents are big fans of government intervention.

Hospitaller
11-27-2011, 06:15 PM
"Obama and Mitt Romney for example"

The MSM picking candidates again

Luieburger
11-29-2011, 11:30 PM
I was about to make a post for this, but I found this thread. I just found the politician tracking feature on American's elect.

Not only is it amazing that he is the most tracked on this highly liberal website, it is awesome that he matches the rest of the country's answer at 73%. 5th! 5th best match for the country according to the site.

Luieburger
11-29-2011, 11:32 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#45406374

Dear god they are trying to railroad this guy.

Holy cow... Chris Matthews is nuts! He won't let the guy talk!!!

enoch150
11-30-2011, 12:29 AM
Hypothetically, if Ron Paul wanted to run as an independent at some point next year, would this create a problem by making Ron Paul appear on ballots in duplicate? And therefore possibly split his vote? In other words, if Ron achieved 50 state ballot access as an independent and then this Americans Elect also made him their candidate, could this be problematic? For example, in 2008, Ron appeared as the candidate on a couple of ballots, against his wishes. There was nothing he could do about it (Montana and I forget the other state...Louisiana maybe?).

In Connecticut all the votes for a particular candidate are totaled, regardless of how many times the name appears on the ballot. But I think that only became the law in 2006, so there might be states where that is an issue.

The other issue is sore loser laws. Texas, Ohio, Mississippi, South Dakota, and possibly Pennsylvania have sore loser laws that might require a lawsuit, but it is generally believed that they don't apply to Presidential candidates because you're not voting for the candidate on the ballot during a presidential election but rather, a slate of electors who say they will vote for that candidate.

ryanmkeisling
11-30-2011, 12:54 AM
side note , you can see the fear in chris and the other guys eyes:) They know who would win that nomination. I could see the fear spilling out of my laptop:) made me smile:)

Me too. +rep for this, I am joining. These two talking heads were on the verge of a freak out fit! This is exciting, Ron Paul is the natural choice. This is gonna be an exciting election.

Romulus
11-30-2011, 10:37 AM
So WILL AE nominate RP??

THAT is the question.

Judging by that interview, the man sounds like a fan.

This could be HUGE!