NH newspaper endorsement clues

[realtonygoodwin]

If you check out @DrewHampshire on Twitter, you will see some clues as to who they will endorse Tomorrow.

My money is on Perry.

[sailingaway]

Oh wow. LOL!

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Although, looking at the tweets it could be Gingrich. Looks like it is a red meat and bluster person, whomever it is.

[Jtorsella]

i'd still hold out hope for paul 'cause there are a lot of references to age, but patriotism is not his strong suit and that's mentioned.

[sailingaway]

Patriotism is a HUGE strong suit for Ron, but it is possible the Union Leader may define patriotism as how many bombs would you be willing to drop on someone who has done nothing to you, rather than using the dictionary definition. I only know the paper from this election, pretty much.

That 'doesn't smell much like teen spirit' would apply to all of them but Ron would smell more like it than most, due to the constant proximity of young supporters.

[pauliticalfan]

Its huntsman...

[garyallen59]

Makes a mockery of liberalism merely by appearing in the same room with it. #UnionLeaderEndorsementHints #fitn

Sounds like Paul to me.

[sailingaway]

One tweet responded to the question "Does the last name have more than one syllable" with "Depends on how drunk you are."

[pauliticalfan]

Smells Like Teen Spirit? Remember this?


Huntsman Explains Cobain Joke

Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman explained why he name-dropped the late grunge rocker Kurt Cobain during Monday's presidential debate in Tampa. When talking about Mitt Romney's book No Apology, Huntsman quipped, "I don't know if that was written by Kurt Cobain or not." Huntsman said of the line, "That just sort of came to me. You can't say 'no apologies' on the 20th anniversary and not have Kurt Cobain come to mind." Nirvana's Nevermind, which contained the song "All Apologies," was released in 1991.

http://www.drudge.com/news/148380/huntsman-explains-cobain-joke

[bluesc]

This endorsement could be turned into a national surge by the media. I hope it's not Huntsman. Could be used as a way to solidify Newt's support though.

[pauliticalfan]

English as a second language? Chinese anyone?

[sailingaway]

This endorsement could be turned into a national surge by the media. I hope it's not Huntsman. Could be used as a way to solidify Newt's support though.

It said NOT much like teen spirit, so if they were talking about Huntsman it sounds like it ISN'T him, doesn't it?

[sailingaway]

English as a second language? Chinese anyone?

no that was one of those jokes like:

Ron Paul doesn't go to a gym, he exercises his civil rights....

It was "English is his second language - to Justice"

Other than Ron I can't think of ANY of them that applies to, but I think most of the tweets were simply jokes.

[bluesc]

It said NOT much like teen spirit, so if they were talking about Huntsman it sounds like it ISN'T him, doesn't it?

Shouldn't that reply be to the post above mine :p? I have no idea who it will be.

[KingRobbStark]

It's going to be Huntsman. It's soon to be his turn after all.

[sailingaway]

Shouldn't that reply be to the post above mine :p? I have no idea who it will be.

yes, I hit the wrong reply to all and didn't read it. So sue me :p

[pauliticalfan]

Sounds to me like it's either Perry or Huntsman. All the Toby Keith, bald eagle, crying liberal red meat crap sounds like Perry. All the tongue in cheek jokes sound like Huntsman's humor though. Guess we'll deal with it when it happens, nothing much we can about it right now.

[sailingaway]

It's going to be Huntsman. It's soon to be his turn after all.

That won't work because Iowa despises him.

[Anti Federalist]

It won't be Paul.

This is the same paper that endorsed McPain.

It'll be Romney.

[pauliticalfan]

Is capable of uttering the words, "fa shizzle," but probably never has. #UnionLeaderEndorsementHint #fitn

Lol, now this could be anybody.

[lucent]

It won't be Paul.

This is the same paper that endorsed McPain.

It'll be Romney.

I thought they hate Romney which is why they endorsed McCain who was 2nd in the polls.

[clint4liberty]

It won't be Paul.

This is the same paper that endorsed McPain.

It'll be Romney. I completely agree this newspaper is going to always pick the establishment Republican Candidate for President: It will be Mitt Romney.

[axlr]

So the consensus of the Ron Paul Forums is...

We don't have a clue, but we know it won't be Paul.

[KingRobbStark]

Lol, now this could be anybody.

Its Romney.

[KingRobbStark]

That won't work because Iowa despises him.

The media can change that over night.

[pauliticalfan]

This guy isn't even following Ron Paul on Twitter. He's following a bunch of Perry and Huntsman accounts, and a Herman Cain. I think that tells us everything we need to know...

[Lord Xar]

Its huntsman...

I wouldn't be surprised. Time just had a piece on him this month and Klein said something to the effect that Huntsman is the only candidate who understands the economic crisis....

Klein is a douchebag.

[sailingaway]

The media can change that over night.

Maybe but ONLY because they waited so long people will have a hard time finding out the truth before the election if they rely on media for their facts. The activists there seem to hate him.

[libertyfanatic]

The teen spirit comment could be referring to the candidate's age.

[libertyfanatic]

Has never pepper-sprayed another candidate. Though probably has thought about it.

New hint

[realtonygoodwin]

The first language being justice makes me think of Perry and the death penalty. And I think Toby Keith has actually mentioned endorsing Perry, and he has supported Obama before I think.

[Jtorsella]

http://twitter.com/#!/LtdPoliticos
@LtdPoliticos
Limited Politicos
Breaking: @UnionLeader will endorse @JonHuntsman for president tomorrow. #fitn
Doesn't seem credible.

[pauladin]

would a rise in huntsman even be bad for us? he sure as hell won't get anywhere in iowa, but it seems like he would just take from romney in new hampshire.

[eduardo89]

Endorsing huntsman? That's pretty pathetic...I would have respected even a perry endorsement more!

[sailingaway]

It might hurt us in New Hampshire, just because the REASON some there like Ron is war and they will focus on Huntsman not being for torture, and calling for a draw down on Afghanistan and ignore that he wants to invade Iran. It is sort of like with Obama wanting to 'end the Iraq war' during the last election, but if you went to the pdf attached to his plan, it said troops would go to Afghanistan to bolster the war there. Musical soldiers.

[Jtorsella]

Yeah I think this isn't actually the endorsement. The account has like 20 followers and doesn't seem to be legitimate.

[pulp8721]

Yeah I think this isn't actually the endorsement. The account has like 20 followers and doesn't seem to be legitimate.

But say that it was legitimate and they are endorsing Huntsman? Who's to say that's a bad thing? He'll probably split the Romney vote, and shave off a little of each of the candidates with the exception of us, and it could become a three-four way race just like in Iowa.

[Keith and stuff]

would a rise in huntsman even be bad for us? he sure as hell won't get anywhere in iowa, but it seems like he would just take from romney in new hampshire.

Some of his supporters might be Paul supporters if Huntsman wasn't around. He appeals to the young less war/no torture crowd.

[Suzu]

It said NOT much like teen spirit

That seems like a reference to age. Like, 76....

[Aratus]

its 50/50 odds it's RON PAUL
especially if jon huntsman's
poll numbers have yet to rise
but his ads are denting mitt's
big regional monolith of support.

[Aratus]

its not to be mitt romney

it just has to be dr. ron!!!

newt is not polling in n.h

as well as jon huntsman.

[Karsten]

I don't see a shred of evidence in the tweets that it's Huntsman. Hunstman is moderate. The tweets seem to reference a strong conservative.

[pauliticalfan]

I don't see a shred of evidence in the tweets that it's Huntsman. Hunstman is moderate. The tweets seem to reference a strong conservative.

Yeah, while I think Hunstman is still likely, it does point to a "strong conservative." Even though Rick Perry campaigned for Al Gore, supported the bailouts, etc., etc., it does sound like him. Which is kind of weird, considering he's polling at like 2% in NH. What does everyone think about Herman Cain? Could this be the start of trying to pump him back up post-scandal?

[Karsten]

Yeah, while I think Hunstman is still likely, it does point to a "strong conservative." Even though Rick Perry campaigned for Al Gore, supported the bailouts, etc., etc., it does sound like him. Which is kind of weird, considering he's polling at like 2% in NH. What does everyone think about Herman Cain? Could this be the start of trying to pump him back up post-scandal?

I would prefer they endorse Perry or Cain. They would just split the establishment vote with Romney. Hunstman would unfortunately take votes from us.
Of course, I can dream and still will for the correct endorsement. :D

[Uriah]

Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAKMAhB6Lg then these two tweets will make sense.
Likes hot dogs, apple pie, and making liberals cry.
Makes a mockery of liberalism merely by appearing in the same room with it.

Ann Coulter has endorsed Mitt Romney.

Look at this tweet: Is capable of uttering the words, "fa shizzle," but probably never has.

And then read this article. http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2008/01/23/who-let-mitt-romney-out-of-the-year-2000/

This article (http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2009/03/toby-keith-and-destruction-of-nephites.html) may be referenced by the Toby Keith tweet.

[pauliticalfan]

Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAKMAhB6Lg then these two tweets will make sense.
Likes hot dogs, apple pie, and making liberals cry.
Makes a mockery of liberalism merely by appearing in the same room with it.

Ann Coulter has endorsed Mitt Romney.

Look at this tweet: Is capable of uttering the words, "fa shizzle," but probably never has.

And then read this article. http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2008/01/23/who-let-mitt-romney-out-of-the-year-2000/

This article (http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2009/03/toby-keith-and-destruction-of-nephites.html) may be referenced by the Toby Keith tweet.

Hmm, that's interesting, but I'm still not totally convinced it's gonna be Romney. The Ann Coulter thing seems like a stretch.

[Uriah]

Hmm, that's interesting, but I'm still not totally convinced it's gonna be Romney. The Ann Coulter thing seems like a stretch.

Yeah, I know but I'm guessing that at least one of these "hints" might have the nugget we're looking for. Perhaps not what I've come up with so far but I think we can figure it out before the official endorsement.

[fearthereaperx]

It' Romney or Huntsman. Those seem to be the only two options here.

[Aratus]

if the ghost of the old Union Leader is still with us, they may give Dr. Ron Paul the good word!

[Karsten]

if the ghost of the old Union Leader is still with us, they may give Dr. Ron Paul the good word!
What did it used to be like?

[Keith and stuff]

What did it used to be like?

Crazy. Loeb was crazy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Loeb_III

[pauliticalfan]

Likes hot dogs? Is that a Bachmann reference?

[bluesc]

This guy is fuckin' with you.

[pauliticalfan]

This Drew guy had a Huntsman twitpic on his profile... and now it's gone.

This is why I don't like endorsements. Why should a handful of journalists have this much power? Why is their opinion more valuable than the average person's? They have every right to make an endorsement, but dragging it out into this 21-questions carnival game clusterfuck is a bit much.

[libertyfanatic]

This guy is probably screwing with us. Each of the hints was designed for a different candidate. Thats why they don't make sense. This way, we can't know which one it will be.

[pauliticalfan]

Okay, so Mitt Romney's butt buddy Kevin Madden (campaign spokesman) just retweeted this Drew guy's latest tweet about being on CNN tomorrow to discuss the endorsement. If this were an Intrade thing, Romney's numbers just went way up for getting the endorsement.

[kahless]

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/nhs-most-influential-paper-to-make-gop-primary-endorsment-sunday/


Romney recently dined with the Union Leader’s publisher, Joe McQuaid, at a Manchester, N.H., holiday fundraiser co-hosted by the paper.

The former Massachusetts governor also met with McQuaid in October.

Several of the other GOP candidates, including Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Sen. Rick Santorum and former speaker Newt Gingrich, held meetings with either McQuaid or the full editorial board during the past few months.

Businessman Herman Cain, who initially cancelled his meeting with the paper’s editorial board, is scheduled to sit down for an interview later this week.

[HOLLYWOOD]

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/nhs-most-influential-paper-to-make-gop-primary-endorsment-sunday/And Ron paul didn't interview with Publisher Joe McQuaid?

Union Leader BLOWBACK?

UL endorses Newt Gingrich and a backup of Rick Perry

[wgadget]

Top of Drudge says it was Gingrich.:eek::eek:

No worries...The paper usually gets it wrong in the long run.

[wgadget]

Well, at least it wasn't Mittens.

[chris41336]

It was Gingrich. Whatever. He isn't going to win anyway.

[Okie RP fan]

Fox Nation has Gingrich as the winner of the endorsement.

I take it this is pretty big news for anyone who would have received it?

This just means our ground crews in New Hampshire have to ramp it up.

[Echoes]

Boycott the Union Leader, never give them traffic again.

[Okie RP fan]

So it's on the front page of Fox Nation and Fox News so far.


MSNBC has it on the top of their page also.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Visions of '08 (McCain's rise). Great...

[acptulsa]

So once again they pick the one G.O.P. candidate least likely to beat Obama in the general election.

I see a pattern here...

[rideurlightning]

Fuck it, we'll do it live.

[Tod]

Some of the comments from the Union Leader article:


Dino Rossi said:

The Union Leader has lost any credibility it may of had with the endorement of Gingrich. This country finally has a true business man as a cantidate and he is a sort of NH guy and you slap him in the face. This country is lucky to have a business person that is interested in this position. Newt's a joke!!
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November 27, 2011 9:08 am Gregg Czarnecki said:

Until there is campaign finance reform, I don't think I have much faith in any candidates, Democrat or Republican.
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November 27, 2011 9:09 am Donna Cook said:

Cannot believe this newspaper is endorsing Newt. What a let down that one is. I mean that is taking the total right side. But then that's the Union Leader. No room for anyone who's ideas differ from theirs. I thought for sure they would endorse Romney.
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November 27, 2011 9:11 am Stephen Boyington said:

The UL editorial board is that guy. He doesn't do anything that is mainstream... for anything mainstream is lame. He tends to buy products that nobody else buys... so he can tell you how much better those products are than the typical ones. The UL is loathe to endorse anyone that actually has a chance to win... for if they did they would somehow be mixed with the rabble.
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November 27, 2011 9:16 am Mike Pelander said:

Once again, the Union Leader backs a candidate that represents the status quo.

You can be guaranteed that not a thing will change in DC if either Newt or Mitt are elected.
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November 27, 2011 9:17 am Scott Downer said:

Ron Paul 2012 the Only person running to receive an endorsement for Ronald Reagan .A man that already has delivered over 4000 lives ! A man the believes in peace talks for all not guns pointed in there face that only brings Drama RON PAUL 2012
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November 27, 2011 9:21 am Robert Sklaroff said:

Key-issue that must be addressed...is "issues"!

He has been all over the place, and still adheres to the Individual Mandate.

This is not rectified @ http://www.newt.org/answers
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November 27, 2011 9:21 am Katherine Morrison said:

While I'd prefer to see Huntsman endorsed, I do give the UL credit for seeing Romney for who he really is, and for the second time not just endorsing him because he likes to 'play New Englander.'

Newt fits the paper's criteria, I can respect that, but I'd love to see them review Huntsman's economic plan.
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November 27, 2011 9:21 am Michael Bertoulin said:

Well the Union Leader got the most important part of the endorsement right; they weren't fooled by the Olympic medalist flip flopper. I think there were only two real choices Gingrich or Huntsman. Huntsman is the better conservative choice by history and skill set and he has the temperament to unify this country.
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November 27, 2011 9:23 am David Ratliff said:

I am so pleased that the Union Leader made this endorsement and put forth the sound reasons for doing so. I was disheartened with K. Ayotte's endorsement of M.R. (our once Attorney General who enjoined the Conval Class of 2006 to wholeheartedly seek and enter into the "Undiscovered Country" of Hamlet fame and I had to tell my son: Please don't do away with yourself!).
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November 27, 2011 9:31 am Jack Alex said:

Too bad the Union Leaders endorsements don't carry more weight, its still up to the voters of NH who we endorse to send forward to our parties nomination. Don't look at me to put another career politician into office. Just more of the same ole same ole. I'm not going to vote for a war monger that wants to bring the next war to Iraq.
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November 27, 2011 9:32 am Bob Jean said:

Mitt Romney and his special interest cronies are banking on Conservatives splitting themselves up. It's the only way he can win. No one really likes or is comfortable with his total lack of any political principle. He really only has been able to attract support from people looking to use government to socially ascend. He is totally unreliable, and the last person you can listen to to find out what Mitt Romney would do if he became President is to listen to Romney himself.

Our Country needs to balance the budget. We need to balance the budget for our economy, and we need to balance it for our national security. We need to elect someone we can trust to do that.

Republicans, Conservatives, and those of us who are Independent and understand that Obama is simply unprepared to continue to run this Country - almost as unprepared as Mitt Romney - need to understand that they - we - cannot split their respective votes up in a way that weights it to a Romney/Obama win.

Politics and responsibility go hand in hand. No where is civic duty more needed right now to insure that our Country is not run by people like Barrack Obama and Mitt Romney. It's a very important responsibility.

NH needs to send a very cohesive, unified, strong message to this country. At no time has NH's responsibility been more needed by this nation.

The UL is a very responsible force in NH politics. All candidates with conviction and principle and values, and their respective supporters who hold these too, need to think carefully about what this country will become should we be led into the future by Obama and Romney.

They - We - all need to think about that very carefully as we move forward over the next month.
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November 27, 2011 9:34 am Robert Sklaroff said:

Let's parse your criteria:

"conservatives" - he is an elitist/statist, never denying the intent to use Big Government to tinker.

"courage" - judgment-call, but evacuated the House after ethics-violation cost him Speakership [and intransigence led to Clinton re-election]

"conviction" - listen to wandering comments on Libya on FNC and note only one common-denominator: disagreement with whatever BHO was doing @ the time [even as it evolved]. Specifically, he predicated his flipped position regarding the military action against Libya on the flipped position of BHO ["once President Obama declared on March 3rd that “Gaddafi has to go,” he put the prestige of the United States on the line"] without articulating his own posture regarding the need to adopt a policy-position regarding such conflicts, wherever they might arise [Central Africa, Syria]. Therefore, if he felt Libya constituted a "strategic interest" of America, why didn't he initially advocate an aggressive posture ["swift and decisive action"], if he felt Libya didn't constitute a "strategic interest" of America, why didn't he explicitly state this observation and its rationale, and if he felt American lives were at-stake when functioning through NATO ["Obama ended up putting American troops in harm’s way under the auspices of a UN resolution for a chiefly humanitarian mission"], how could that have occurred when NATO commanded no American troops and no American lives were lost?

"independent-minded" - one must differentiate the "intellectual" mantle he has created for himself [manifest, in particular, during the debates] with the contents of his books. His support for the Individual Mandate is vigorously argued: Real Change [2008, page 227: "Everyone should be required to have coverage"] and Winning the Future [2005, page 116: "You have the right to be part of the lowest-cost insurance pool and you have a responsibility to buy insurance."].

"grounded in their core beliefs about this nation and its people" - Regarding the Middle East, the essence of his position ["Israel will continue to receive a robust package of aid from the United States under a new merit-based approach to foreign aid"] is based on a viewpoint ["Israel is one of America’s closest friends and a key strategic ally in a dangerous part of the world"] that is vulnerable to attack by those Republican neo-isolationists who adamantly oppose the "neo-con" approach to Foreign Policy. What is unstated is the specific criterion he would emphasize when justifying not only the continuation of prior commitments ["multi-year aid agreement"] but also whatever expansion thereof that might arise...such as the necessity to engage in military action against Iran.

"best-equipped for the job" - All that insider-stuff [Freddie-Mac] justifying having made seven-digits due to the intent to function as a "historian" ... does this rationalization pass the scratch/sniff test?
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November 27, 2011 9:37 am Stephen Dyleski said:

Endorsing the preferred Republican candidate of the Democrat party? The Democrats now have two effective charges to use against the Republicans, NAFTA and ethics violations not to mention some other charges that will result in the loss of about half the vote, be they true or not. That is of course if this endorsement is helpful. Newt rose from nowhere to become Rick Perry's replacement.
Not being as wealthy as Romney or as committed to the Constitution as Ron Paul, he would be easy to influence.
That is what the powers that be want. Unfortunately this is no time to play political games in America. Gregg Czarnecki is right to a certain extent. The reform has to be more than financial, though. Especially when third parties can pull the strings behind the scenes through manipulation of the media. That is advertising or the curtailment of advertisement if the wrong tune is played by that particular media outlet.
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November 27, 2011 9:37 am Keith Lockhart said:

Newt is the only one that can beat Obama. His stance on immigration will bring in droves of support from independents and Latino's. As for Romney supporters the guy is a used car salesman with a silver spoon in his mouth. Like Obama "give em what they want to hear".
Willard..Mitt owned and or invested in a company called Keystone..cheap Chinese aftermarket body repair parts. SOMEHOW the Mass insurance laws got changed so that any Insurance Company that was doing a repair on any vehicle that had over 15000 miles or was over 1 years old was mandated to use these parts. So translated if you had a $42,000 F350 diesel pickup and somebody smashed into you, the next thing you know you have a Chinese hood, fenders, bumpers, grilles, radiators, ac condenser.
Lets talk about Willard's dog deal. Willard..Mitt took his Irish Setter and strapped him to the roof of his car for a TWELVE HOUR HIGHWAY TRIP TO CANADA. (In a dog crate)The dog lost control of his bowels and urine and diarrhea was running down the side of his car. Mitts kids almost threw up. Willard pulled into a service station and hosed the dog and car down and proceeded with his trip. That's not the guy we need in the white house. Thanks but no thanks.
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November 27, 2011 9:38 am Robert Sklaroff said:

Concur with rationale to eschew Romney, but those who promote Huntsman must rationalize myriad postures/behaviors that contrast with GOP-Conservatism [notwithstanding his overt expression of scorn regarding the ethical expressions of evangelicals...claiming "science" solely to himself]. From enhanced interrogation to defense of articulation of BHO's flawed China-policy... he lucidly demonstrates the danger of reliance upon "moderation." He's the darling of Morning-Joe, an observation that speaks for itself when compared/contrasted with the GOP-electorate.
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November 27, 2011 9:44 am Michael Stevens said:

Wow! That’s a pretty big piece of crow-pie that the UL is going to have to swallow by endorsing this guy. Does this mean they endorse cheating on your cancer-stricken wife while attempting to prosecute another guy for adultery? Some of the right wing rumor-mills already have Obama stepping down and Hillary replacing him as the Democrat’s nominee. If Newt secures the Republican nomination this could make for some real fun debates.
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November 27, 2011 9:45 am Robert Sklaroff said:

@ Jake

First, you perpetuate a smear against Newt, and then you build thereupon to smear the GOP-POTUS field. Your input should be ignored.
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November 27, 2011 9:47 am Gerry Rudmin said:

I don't know where the Union Leader editors have found that Gingrich has any administrative experience. He's been a lobbyist (profiting handsomely from FannieMae/FreddieMac), a politician, and a college professor who was never advanced, but never an administrator. His books are historic regurgitations signed by him.

Honestly, I think he's every bit as much a narcissist as President Obama. They care only about adulation. I suppose all politicians are narcissists, but at least let's nominate and elect someone with administrative/executive experience.
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November 27, 2011 9:50 am Robert Sklaroff said:

@ Michael

First, you perpetuate a smear against Newt, and then you falsely cite "right-wing rumor-mills" regarding Hillary's potential-role; although many had suggested he might defer to her, the latest is that she could be invoked to displace Biden. Do concur the debates would be fascinating, although the issue of jobs/jobs/jobs will dominate regardless of who gets the GOP-nod.
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November 27, 2011 9:51 am Valerie Powell said:

Dear Union Leader, this morning in the discussion of the Gingrich endorsement on CNN, I heard Mr. Andrew Cline say, "...very false..."
As an undergraduate, over a half century ago, I was taught, on pain of a bad grade, not to use the word "very" inappropriately. Perhaps Mr. Cline could explain how the concept "false" is on a continuum where it could be "more or less true" :)
Valerie
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November 27, 2011 9:58 am brian mccarty said:

I never believed that puke had a face or could speak for that matter, I was wrong, along come Newt.
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November 27, 2011 9:58 am Mike Farquhar said:

Newt is the kind of guy I listen to, admire, and learn from each time he speaks. Willard is the kind of guy who gives me the creeps every time he speaks.

Down here in Mass, the RiNOs look upon Romney as the Twelfth Imam; - they’ve forgotten or overlooked the damage he already did to this state.

For all his warts, Newt is a better man than the other six combined! He’s the one Obama fears.
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November 27, 2011 9:58 am Timopthy Meehan said:

Endorsements mean nothing to me - particularly from the Union Leader.Newt Gingrich is probably the most hate-rendering, arrogant, and above all hypocritical person out there. Yes, he is intelligent, but also has a history of flip-flopping and rhetorical double-speak. Add to that his supposed "historical" consult resulting in a 1.6 million fee, his suspect Tiffany charges, multiple instances of infidelity,and probably the nastiest vitriol I have ever witnessed. By comparison, John Huntsman is just as knowledgeable and in my opinion has exceedingly superior integrity.No, Gingrich is not the anti-Washington candidate as some will have you believe...the majority of politicians are influenced in some way - even if only for their reelection(s). Campaign finance reform is the only way to fix this mess. Politicians are bought by the lobbyists and special interest concerns and until that is fixed, it really doesn't matter who this country's leader is. What "does" matter is a more cooperative, bi-partisan, and compromising House and Senate. The lack thereof has resulted in the most unfavorable rating of the Congress in history...politicians who are more concerned about their staunch ideologies while they ignore the will and voice of the people. No, one person is not going to fix this dire situation, but if solely for a figurehead and symbolic leader of this country, Newt Gingrich is the last person I would ever consider voting for President.
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November 27, 2011 10:01 am Mark John Hunter said:

Please, Mr. McQuaid,

Read "Conservatives Without Conscience," by John Dean. The phrase "without conscience," is commonly used for psychopaths, or persons with social disorders. If you do not have the time to read the full book ( it is a short book) look up the parts about Newt GIngrich in the index. Read those. Pay two or three psychiatrists to watch the video of your interview with Newt Gingrich, and give them as much biography and history about Newt Gincrich you can assemble. Ask them for their opinion of the man's mental state.
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November 27, 2011 10:03 am Robert Sklaroff said:

"Breach of Trust" by Sen. Tom Coburn tells us a lot, as well.
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November 27, 2011 10:06 am John Grassi said:

I recently wrote a letter saying that I would help support Newt if Ron Paul did not win. I feel after listening to him at our last debates and then going to a website to verify what he was saying as either correct or not. I quickly learned that many of his comments at the last debate were note only untrue but they were against the law.

Folks - old or young - check your facts and do not follow this newspaper - as it is being used as a tool to mold minds with out checking the real facts. Thats a real shame or should I say sham?

John Grassi
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[Karsten]

Well its the best non-Paul endorsement we could hope for. Ginrich and Romney will hopefully split the vote.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

It's not a newspapers role to endorse any candidate.

[sailingaway]

The problem is the short time. Gingrich was starting to sag, imho, and yesterday a ton of hit pieces came out on him (see opposing candidates). The problem is if Vander Haart actually thinks his reputation would stand endorsing a guy (Gingrich) who literally gave seminars on how to capture the religious voter, has a horrible personal record, pushed for creation of the WTO, voted to create the Dept of education, proposed a mandatory health insurance scheme similar to Obamacare, favored global warming cap and trade, decided that 'after all' if he were in office he would vote for TARP, was a NAFTA cheerleader, and promises the moon with NO spending cuts to pay for them. (Well, OK, the GOP is good at ignoring that last thing.)

IF he can get a bunch of the social conservatives behind someone so obviously not socially conservative, and a con man to boot, by pointing to the UL endorsement in NH, it could be an issue with Ron's momentum, imho.

Would his reputation stand endorsing Newt? I can't fathom why he's even considering the man.

But if he DOESN'T, I think this is just another thing, not a big deal.

But I could not believe the cheerleading I saw on Redstate for someone as toxic as Gingrich.

[neverseen]

i'm curious if you all think this will help to drop romney out of the 40% he's been polling at in NH? If newt raises in the polls, it should take away from Romneys 40% and even out the spread quite a bit. Again, it'd put paul in 3rd, but it'd be a much closer third than he is in now...

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Well its the best non-Paul endorsement we could hope for. Ginrich and Romney will hopefully split the vote.

Wasn't that supposed to be the case in '08? Instead McCain (like Gingrich is doing now) sneaked up behind Romney and rode the momentum wave to the nomination. I'm just afraid that there is too little time for Gingrich to be brought down at this point.

[HarryBrowneLives]

Ole Newty's still really in the same fix with better poll numbers. He doesn't have a lot of money or organization. At last count a couple weeks back, he had about 1.4M on hand. Getting much more difficult now to make a dent with ad buys, etc. I think Newt's something of a paper tiger right now until he raises some money, and he's VERY suspect against any attack ads that some of the others could come out with. With that kind of money, he can't fight back.

[HarryBrowneLives]

The problem is the short time. Gingrich was starting to sag, imho, and yesterday a ton of hit pieces came out on him (see opposing candidates). The problem is if Vander Haart actually thinks his reputation would stand endorsing a guy (Gingrich) who literally gave seminars on how to capture the religious voter, has a horrible personal record, pushed for creation of the WTO, voted to create the Dept of education, proposed a mandatory health insurance scheme similar to Obamacare, favored global warming cap and trade, decided that 'after all' if he were in office he would vote for TARP, was a NAFTA cheerleader, and promises the moon with NO spending cuts to pay for them. (Well, OK, the GOP is good at ignoring that last thing.)

IF he can get a bunch of the social conservatives behind someone so obviously not socially conservative, and a con man to boot, by pointing to the UL endorsement in NH, it could be an issue with Ron's momentum, imho.

Would his reputation stand endorsing Newt? I can't fathom why he's even considering the man.

But if he DOESN'T, I think this is just another thing, not a big deal.

But I could not believe the cheerleading I saw on Redstate for someone as toxic as Gingrich.


I don't use Redstate as much of a guage on anything. They are a small group of Neocons on average who care nothing about such things and only care about the blue team vs the red team. Total neandertals.

[KingRobbStark]

Most voters are team placed. It doesn't matter how toxic a canditate is as long as he belonges to their team. All in all I hate the media, and most of those who swallow their shit and lick their finger afterwords.

[libertygrl]

This makes me sick! Maybe we need to start a chipin for a super "Newt" brochure where we spell out the truth about him. I hate this! The media always has the upper hand. :mad: Maybe if people could actually read something in their own hands rather than following what they hear on tv, we could win some people over. Maybe a Newt vs. Paul brochure with a comparison chart?

Everytime he waddles out on stage in these debates I want to hurl. Is it me, or does he sort of remind you of an arrogant humpty dumpty?


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[acptulsa]

Is it me, or does he sort of remind you of an arrogant humpty dumpty?

lulz Well, he certainly sits on the fence a lot. I'm reasonably sure he's headed for a great fall. And all the MSM's horses asses and all the MSM's men will probably try to put him together again.

[Avalon]

Ole Newty's still really in the same fix with better poll numbers. He doesn't have a lot of money or organization. At last count a couple weeks back, he had about 1.4M on hand. Getting much more difficult now to make a dent with ad buys, etc. I think Newt's something of a paper tiger right now until he raises some money, and he's VERY suspect against any attack ads that some of the others could come out with. With that kind of money, he can't fight back. McCain was in debt at this time. Romney likely won't punch down (like last time) and by the time Newt has momentum (eg after a first win in NH) it may be too late. But it probably won't be given the lack of winner take all until April.

[Aratus]

this keeps the N.H race four-way or five-way, because Jon Huntsman's pappy got a half millions worth of ad airtime for the diplomat and utah governor. i've seen the ads and i am in the boston market. the Union Leader staff seems possessed by the ghost of William Loeb III because a divided GOP field plays into Newt's EGO when he gets to Tampa. they did not want Mitt, decided not to humour Herman Cain, and Jon Huntsman was too compassionately against waterboarding during the last debate. were they more computer savvy they could have backed Ron Paul but they didn't. this hurts Mitt Romney and sends the spin factor into overdrive...

[Anti Federalist]

Manchester Union-Leader: Then and Now

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/99427.html#more-99427

Posted by Charles Burris on November 27, 2011 03:09 PM

Today’s endorsement of neocon Newt Gingrich further demonstrates that The Manchester Union-Leader has substantially changed for the worse since the death of long-time president and publisher William Loeb (an admirer of Old Right Republican Robert Taft) which can be illustrated by Mr. Loeb's personal response to this letter below.

On April 11, 1978, when I was the executive director of the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, I composed the following letter for publication:

Dear Mr. Loeb:

Your March 27 Union Leader editorial, "Red Sails On The Horizon," warned of the possible dangers of the ever-expanding Soviet Merchant Marine to the NATO alliance. I should like to add some important facts to your careful analysis.

Over fifty years ago, economist Ludwig von Mises stated, without refutation, that central planning by state bureaucracies is inherently inefficient. This is because rational economic calculation is impossible due to the absence of a market pricing system of profit and loss. Socialism is necessarily parasitical as an economic system, being in fact the violent abolition of the market.

If this is the case, how does one explain the increased production in the Soviet Union since 1917?

Anthony Sutton, former Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University, one of the most prestigious academic "think tanks," is an expert on the origins of Soviet technology.

He is the author of many works, including the three-volume Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development 1917 – 1930, 1930 –1945, 1945 – 1964.

Surveying every possible source of information, in five languages, and regarding every industry, physical plant capacity, and technological development in the Soviet Union since 1917, Sutton proves "there is no such thing as Soviet technology," but technology transferred from the Western bloc countries by physical force, monopolistic concessions, harassment, breach of contract, or numerous other unsavory methods.

In National Suicide: Military Aid To The Soviet Union, Sutton observes that over two-thirds (68 percent) of the Soviet Merchant Marine ship tonnage has been built outside of the Soviet Union. The remaining 32 percent was built in Soviet yards and to a great extent with shipbuilding equipment from the West, particularly Finland and the NATO alliances' Great Britain and Germany.

Also, four-fifths (79.13 percent) of the main marine diesel engines used to propel the vessels of the Soviet Merchant Fleet, were built in the West. Moreover, even this startling statistic does not reflect the full nature of Soviet dependence on the foreign marine diesel technology because all the main engines manufactured in the U. S. S. R. are built to foreign designs.

In effect, powerful international interests in the United States and Western Europe have created the Soviet Military Industrial Complex.

We must end this destructive policy of having the honest, hardworking taxpayers subsidize a potential aggressor so a privileged elite can gain its profits and plunder.

We must adopt a new, realistic approach to foreign affairs . . . one which rejects the very dangerous premises of the present policy.

That approach is non-intervention. It was well regarded by men of our revolutionary era as they faced the concrete tasks of charting sound policy in a world of great power rivalry and large empires — a world much like our own.

Our first president, George Washington, enunciated the non-interventionist viewpoint in his celebrated Farewell Address to the American people in 1796. It was reiterated by John Adams, our second president, and Thomas Jefferson, in his First Inaugural Address in 1801, called for "peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." And so it went. Non-interventionism, despite serious lapses, was the major theme in American foreign policy up to 1898, even to 1917.

In the Twentieth Century, however, American statesmen have largely ignored the arguments for non-intervention, with consistently catastrophic results. A few courageous individuals, men such as Robert Taft, Sr., Harry Elmer Barnes, John T. Flynn, and Roger MacBride, have warned again and again that our freedoms could not survive "perpetual war for perpetual peace," that military adventures have always undermined republican forms of government. But their words have been generally unheeded.

American foreign policy should seek an America at peace with the world and the defense — against attack from abroad — of the lives, liberty, and property of the American people. Provision of such defense must respect the individual rights of people everywhere.

Sincerely,

Charles A. Burris
Executive Director

In response to this letter I received the following personal letter from Mr. Loeb:

Dear Mr. Burris:

Thank you for your good letter. It will be turned over to the editors for publication.

The problem is that the leaders of the American financial complex are such brilliant specialists in their own fields but so ignorant to the world as a whole and so isolated by their wealth that they think that they can make more money as Lenin once said, "manufacturing and selling the rope that will be used to hang them"; but they don't believe in the last apart of that equation.

Regards and best wishes,

Sincerely,

William Loeb
President

[eleganz]

This is a good thing, the more people that vote for Newt, the less people will vote for Romney and the more we shine in NH.

[BattleFlag1776]

...The problem is that the leaders of the American financial complex are such brilliant specialists in their own fields but so ignorant to the world as a whole and so isolated by their wealth that they think that they can make more money as Lenin once said, "manufacturing and selling the rope that will be used to hang them"; but they don't believe in the last apart of that equation.

Unfortunately, and to our detriment, those "leaders of the American financial complex" are in charge.

[Anti Federalist]

Unfortunately, and to our detriment, those "leaders of the American financial complex" are in charge.

Yup, and Lenin's quote, updated for today:

"We will sell the capitalists the rope with which they hang themselves."