3rd Party Running against Paul

[Havax]

I get the ironic feeling that the mainstream GOP talk show hosts and media would embrace a 3rd party run by someone else if Ron won the nomination. As much of a big deal they make about Ron potentially running 3rd party, I honestly think they would run some neocon under something like the Conservative Party and it would be totally embraced. I literally can't fathom Rush or Levin saiyng "we've got to get behind Ron Paul since he won the nomination". Bizarre scenario to think about. What do you think?

[SonofThunder]

LOL: http://itsmyblog.com/2011/11/will-mitt-romney-go-3rd-party-if-ron-paul-wins/

I was just thinking that!

[Xenophage]

I've been saying this for a while now. This is the same thing that happened in Alaska.

Joe Miller, a tea party candidate, won the GOP nomination for senate.

Lisa Murkowski, an insider GOP establishment candidate, then ran against him as an independent in the general election.

Alaska is so right leaning, however, that it didn't split the vote up enough to give a Democrat win and Murkowski ended up beating Miller in a very contested vote.

If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination, there will almost certainly be some GOP insider that runs against him as an independent.

[1stAmendguy]

Trump would run as an independent and the neocon/establishment GOP crowd would get behind Trump if Ron got the GOP nomination.

[PastaRocket848]

...the country wouldn't. he's a baffoon.

[KingNothing]

If Ron Paul won the nomination and they embraced a third party candidate, it would quite literally destroy the party and possibly bring a gigantic swath of independent voters to Ron Paul.

[Zarn Solen]

Miller is a punk. There was more than enough reason for anyone to challenge him. The reason for his loss was his own doing.

[PauliticsPolitics]

3rd Party Running against Paul

Yes, this is very likely if we get the nomination.

[KingNothing]

Trump, or someone like Trump, will run if Paul wins the nomination. I don't doubt that. The military industrial complex and a litany of other interest groups won't allow the pickpocketing of American citizens to end.

The farce of the electoral process would be blatant to everyone though. I suspect it wouldn't end well for anyone.

[bronxboy10]

LOL: http://itsmyblog.com/2011/11/will-mitt-romney-go-3rd-party-if-ron-paul-wins/

I was just thinking that!

Just got this from my company firewall when I tried to access that site:

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[Brian4Liberty]

A third Party run by an establishment GOP candidate would ensure an Obama victory. And that wouldn't bother the establishment one bit.

[ninepointfive]

Sounds like what happened in colorado with the constitution party in 2010.

[KramerDSP]

I guarantee you that if Romney OR Paul is the nominee, Trump runs third party. This hands the election to Obama. Kind of ironic, but I have used this argument against people on the Daily Caller comment threads who like Paul but fear he will run Third Party. If Paul does not win the nomination, he will not run third party, but SOMEONE will, and the GOP nominee loses Paul's 15%-20% of the base, giving Obama the election. Therefore, the only way the GOP can save it's party is by nominating Ron Paui and lessening the blow of a third party run by anybody else. I would love to see Ron Paul destroy Trump and Obama in the general election debates. That would be hysterical.

[SonofThunder]

That's odd. Definitely no porn there.

[Charlie Harris]

Well even if they did run a 3rd party, Ron could still get enough independents and democrats to come to his side. So I think if Ron could still win even if this scenario played out.

[TomtheTinker]

Miller is a punk. There was more than enough reason for anyone to challenge him. The reason for his loss was his own doing. punk?????

[Xenophage]

Miller is a punk. There was more than enough reason for anyone to challenge him. The reason for his loss was his own doing.

I did not know this. Is he more Michale Graves or more Danzig?

[Ranger29860]

Just got this from my company firewall when I tried to access that site:

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If i got that and it was at home i would IMMEDIATELY cancel and switch to another ISP.

[JohnGalt23g]

When (yeah, I said when) Ron wins the nomination, the vast majority of the GOP will suck it up and get behind him. A lot won't be thrilled, but they know it's a damn sight better than the alternative.

[McDermit]

It wouldn't surprise me.

[TNforPaul45]

I'll tell you one thing: If Ron Paul gets the GOP nomination and the Libertarian and Constitution parties go ahead and nominate candidates to run against him out of "principle," then they are bigger fools than we ever thought.

If Paul is the Nominee, EVERY third party had better get off their ass and push for him, principles be damned!

[Havax]

I'll tell you one thing: If Ron Paul gets the GOP nomination and the Libertarian and Constitution parties go ahead and nominate candidates to run against him out of "principle," then they are bigger fools than we ever thought.

If Paul is the Nominee, EVERY third party had better get off their ass and push for him, principles be damned!

Communist Party endorsed Obama so I assume they aren't running a candidate right? 3rd parties owe Ron Paul in 2012 because he endorsed all of them in 2008.

What a perfect storyline with America at the brink it would be: Communist Party endorsee vs. Constitution Party endorsee - Will America go off the deep end towards collapse or will we return to its foundation?

[anaconda]

...the country wouldn't. he's a baffoon.

But buffoons have certainly occupied the White House. George W. Bush is a ready example.

[heavenlyboy34]

I highly doubt a 3rd party run against RP would work. There's the ballot access problem as well as getting into the debates. Does Trump have enough cash to pull a Ross Perot? I dunno. Maybe someone else could answer that.

[heavenlyboy34]

Communist Party endorsed Obama so I assume they aren't running a candidate right? 3rd parties owe Ron Paul in 2012 because he endorsed all of them in 2008.

What a perfect storyline with America at the brink it would be: Communist Party endorsee vs. Constitution Party endorsee - Will America go off the deep end towards collapse or will we return to its foundation?
I only heard him endorse Baldwin (and Barr was rather irate about it). What do you mean by "all of them"?

[Havax]

I only heard him endorse Baldwin (and Barr was rather irate about it). What do you mean by "all of them"?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/10/ron-paul-endorses-the-third-party-field/

[Feeding the Abscess]

I only heard him endorse Baldwin (and Barr was rather irate about it). What do you mean by "all of them"?

Ron endorsed Baldwin after Barr started crying about Ron spreading liberty "to the four corners of the earth".

[thomas-in-ky]

punk?????

Met Miller in person here in Kentucky at a tea party event. I never got that impression. Seemed like a genuinely nice guy with good motives. Other than needing to shave, I didn't notice any defects. :)

[affa]

Wait. What? Some people consider Trump presidential material? Like, really? I'm not trying to be snide here -- to me, that's... I don't know, absolutely absurd as a concept, like Snooki for president. He's a reality tv star with an attitude and bad hair. And he eats pizza with a fork. I realize he's a businessman, but... really?

[stephensmith]

We could end up with an election like that of 1860, with the country split between four major candidates. Only this time, the split would be based on ideology, not geography.

[pinkmandy]

I can definitely see them doing this. Didn't Bush back a former dem against Paul for his Texas seat? I'm sure it will be someone the media puts forth as in independent tea partier trying to save the country. Can you imagine Trump (or Bloomberg? Palin?) running on a tea party platform against the father of the tea party...

[rideurlightning]

I did not know this. Is he more Michale Graves or more Danzig?

If Danzig, then he's got my back.

[ryanmkeisling]

I only heard him endorse Baldwin (and Barr was rather irate about it). What do you mean by "all of them"?

He endorsed them at his third party press conference (kind of), Barr was left out because he didn't show up which in turn made RP look foolish and kind of perturbed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYALxUfEmfQ

This is classic ron paul, he is right on the edge of his patience! I could watch it over and over...I love him. It is so brilliant it brings tears to my eyes, especially that stuff about the Quigley book. When this aired many of the ideas were still considered fringe but what a change after 4 years. He gives a good explanation as to why despite there being two parties they are both essentially the same. Even many members here on this site today cannot wrap their heads around this facade that we live under and yet they are Ron Paul fans today! Beware the false dichotomy. Hoefully this is the election where Ron Paul co-opts that whole corrupt party and puts it to death. R.I.P. GOP!!!

[69360]

Nobody will run 3rd party against Ron. The GOP will line up behind hold there noses, endorse and vote for him. Just like what happened with McCain. They want Obama out. Ron can do it and they know it, they aren't stupid. Ron would hammer Obama in the debates like nobody has ever before.

[pauladin]

if someone like romney or another prominent republican or conservative went independent against the republican nominee (paul), he would immediately be branded a traitor to the party and a spoiler. it would probably be political suicide. nobody wants to be THAT GUY that gave obama a second term.

[McChronagle]

you have to remember things can change rapidly in the global and political landscape at any time. markets could be drastically different even by the time iowa comes and i think the worse the economy gets the more people will look for somebody to explain it all. we also have russia reacting to us intervention in syria from what i hear. americans are in for a big wake up call here and it should go in rons favor since hes called all of this.

[anaconda]

Nobody will run 3rd party against Ron. The GOP will line up behind hold there noses, endorse and vote for him. Just like what happened with McCain. They want Obama out. Ron can do it and they know it, they aren't stupid. Ron would hammer Obama in the debates like nobody has ever before.

Some rank and file GOP voters would hold their nose while droves of independents would enthusiastically vote for Ron.

[Student Of Paulism]

We could end up with an election like that of 1860, with the country split between four major candidates. Only this time, the split would be based on ideology, not geography.

Hmm is this like when Washington was leaving office or something, and Adams and his mate and Jefferson and his mate (Burr) were running? I know back then it wasn't like it is now, like more a popular vote/winner take all sorta thing. People would place votes even for the VP too, and i think that person could also win and become president. Alexander Hamilton was involved in trying to rig that election too (he was really a very shady bastard when it came down to it lol, kinda like the Gingrich of his time...ok well not THAT bad, but he was no angel).