PDA

View Full Version : Enough OWS derision. We have built the R3volution one heart/mind at a time.




phill4paul
11-22-2011, 04:25 PM
OUR movement is not about pulling other movements in their entirety to our side. We have always approached this one person at a time. Some would write the Tea-Party off. Many say they have been co-opted by the neo-cons. Do we not still try to influence those in the Tea-Party? Yes. We do.
Like those in the Tea-Party there are many in OWS that are willing to listen to a different viewpoint. Like the Tea-Party they are made up of individuals that are simply pissed at the system. They do not necessarily have the answers. They are just fighting mad.
Has there ever been an entire block of voters that have just suddenly swung to OUR r3volution? No. It has always happened one individual at a time. Then that individual went out and recruited one individual at a time from those that they knew.
So just stop it. We keep doing it the way we have always done it. One heart/mind at a time.

Endgame
12-17-2011, 11:33 AM
I love how quickly this got threadslided by the feds manipulating this forum. My experiences with OWS have been similarly positive.

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/07/can_occupy_and_the_tea_party_team_up/singleton/

acptulsa
12-17-2011, 01:13 PM
The labels--conservative, liberal, tea partier, occupier, fundamentalist, atheist, black white red brown yellow--all designed to divide the have-nots from one another and keep us distracted from the real problems created by the real enemy.

But, you know, when they get carried away and start overestimating their ability to keep us divided up enough to suit them, that's when they lose control. And if you throw in a new little widget like the internet, well, all bets are off.

We have opened many doors so many people can come to us from many directions. And many trolls have whined, 'but we don't want them.' They, however, are Americans, and we do want them.

Kylie
12-17-2011, 03:57 PM
The labels--conservative, liberal, tea partier, occupier, fundamentalist, atheist, black white red brown yellow--all designed to divide the have-nots from one another and keep us distracted from the real problems created by the real enemy.

But, you know, when they get carried away and start overestimating their ability to keep us divided up enough to suit them, that's when they lose control. And if you throw in a new little widget like the internet, well, all bets are off.

We have opened many doors so many people can come to us from many directions. And many trolls have whined, 'but we don't want them.' They, however, are Americans, and we do want them.


Yes, and the reason is we are learning and standing on principles.

Principles know not the color of the skin, or the amount of money in one's pocket. Principles are in the mind, where everything with which we make our world comes from.

As long as we stand on strong principles, and allow others to come along and listen and change their ideals, we will keep growing numbers. Freedom is indeed popular, and the non-aggression principle is at the center of freedom.

jtstellar
12-18-2011, 12:55 AM
when we're making progress

and it becomes easy to support this movement again, they will come back,
because it now takes less courage to do so.

PaulConventionWV
12-18-2011, 01:29 AM
OWS is irrelevant. Move on.

Golding
12-18-2011, 03:04 AM
OWS is irrelevant. Move on.I'm often surprised that there are some people who so easily give up when it comes to the OWS movement. We were all well aware of the denigration of the Tea Party movement as it slowly became co-opted. Somehow we are more embracing of the denigration and co-opting of the OWS movement. I don't quite get it. These are people who are well aware that there exists fundamental flaws in our economic/government system. Some people are resistant to education, as they were in the Tea Party movement as well. But OWS is ripe with people who demand improvement, and all we have to do is educate a little bit to guide them.

Endgame
12-18-2011, 12:12 PM
I'm often surprised that there are some people who so easily give up when it comes to the OWS movement. We were all well aware of the denigration of the Tea Party movement as it slowly became co-opted. Somehow we are more embracing of the denigration and co-opting of the OWS movement. I don't quite get it. These are people who are well aware that there exists fundamental flaws in our economic/government system. Some people are resistant to education, as they were in the Tea Party movement as well. But OWS is ripe with people who demand improvement, and all we have to do is educate a little bit to guide them.

Just wait till summer. When the weather warms up, this thing is going to explode.

Sweman
12-18-2011, 12:25 PM
OWS is irrelevant. Move on.
You just fell into acptulsa's troll definition.

We have opened many doors so many people can come to us from many directions. And many trolls have whined, 'but we don't want them.' They, however, are Americans, and we do want them.