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Toureg89
11-22-2011, 11:17 AM
"by protesting the Federal Reserve"

a Paki-Saudi (also a libertarian ish Republican voting for Paul :D) friend and I were discussing, after our Politics of the Middle East class (UCF) the CATO Institute and the Rand Foundation (Institute?), and I was showing him how they were more libertarian than conservative,

some liberal Democrat overheard us, and then accused me of the above. I responded, well I am here in Orlando, not in DC or NYC so idk how I am personally messing it up. I further responded that the Federal Reserve was at least partially responsible for the crap OWS claims to be protesting (to which my friend agreed), then the liberal said "well, i don't want to get into a discussion about it..." then left...

yeah...

KAYA
11-22-2011, 11:22 AM
at least partially responsible?

Toureg89
11-22-2011, 11:26 AM
at least partially responsible?

i was setting the threshold low for my argument in case if we did get into a discussion, it would seem "reasonable", a "middle ground", something we could both agree on.

obviously, he didn't even want to discuss the merits he sees in the Federal Reserve, because he declined to back up his argument.

Xenophage
11-22-2011, 11:42 AM
OWS is messing up itself by protesting capitalism.

FrankRep
11-22-2011, 11:47 AM
OWS is messing up itself by protesting capitalism.

Communists are in control of the Occupy Wall Street movement.


Unions, Socialists Join Forces to "Occupy Wall Street" (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9214-unions-socialists-join-forces-to-occupy-wall-street)

Occupy Wall Street: Lawlessness & Communist Revolution (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9838-occupy-wall-street-lawlessness-a-communist-revolution)

"Smash Capitalism!" Say the Wall Street Protesters (http://www.thenewamerican.com/opinion/sam-blumenfeld/9390-qsmash-capitalismq-say-the-wall-street-protesters)

Occupy Wall Street, Democracy & Mob Rule (http://thenewamerican.com/opinion/thomas-sowell/9611-occupy-wall-street-democracy-a-mob-rule)

Big Labor Supports "Occupy" Movement (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9834-big-labor-supports-qoccupyq-movement)

pcosmar
11-22-2011, 11:48 AM
OWS is messing up itself by protesting capitalism.

perhaps he should examine the roots of the Movement he joined.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XySGw-g2tyk

This was the movement before Adbusters co-opted it.

FrankRep
11-22-2011, 11:53 AM
This was the movement before Adbusters co-opted it.

Pcosmar, The Communists are in control NOW. They hijacked it. You have to face reality bro.

pcosmar
11-22-2011, 11:56 AM
Pcosmar, The Communists are in control NOW. They hijacked it. You have to face reality bro.

Just like the Tea Party then.
But I still try to educate the ignorant.

Communists run the Freakin' Republican Party, but that does not stop Ron from "associating" with them.

nobody's_hero
11-22-2011, 11:58 AM
I don't really know why communists would hijack OWS when they already have control of the government. They might be using it as a means to vent their frustrations but in terms of hoping to get more power out of the deal, they already have the power: Obama.

FrankRep
11-22-2011, 12:02 PM
I don't really know why communists would hijack OWS when they already have control of the government. They might be using it as a means to vent their frustrations but in terms of hoping to get more power out of the deal, they already have the power: Obama.
The United States is not the Soviet Union yet. The Communists have their chess pieces in the Federal government to weaken it from above and now they're building up their strength with the "poor masses" below, setting up the conditions of a Bolshevik-like Revolution.

BattleFlag1776
11-22-2011, 12:03 PM
then the liberal said "well, i don't want to get into a discussion about it..."

That's the classic liberal foil. Translation: "I don't know what I am talking about."

pcosmar
11-22-2011, 12:11 PM
The United States is not the Soviet Union yet. The Communists have their chess pieces in the Federal government to weaken it from above and now they're building up their strength with the "poor masses" below, setting up the conditions of a Bolshevik-like Revolution.

Fabian socialists have run this country for 100 years, and on the orders of the same people that created communism and ran both world wars. They are setting up WWIII as we watch.

jason43
11-22-2011, 12:13 PM
OWS is messing up itself by protesting capitalism.

Bingo

AuH20
11-22-2011, 12:19 PM
Fabian socialists have run this country for 100 years, and on the orders of the same people that created communism and ran both world wars. They are setting up WWIII as we watch.

Correct. There are too many mouths to feed and the spotlight is too intense on their agenda. They need a distraction.

dannno
11-22-2011, 12:26 PM
Pcosmar, The Communists are in control NOW. They hijacked it. You have to face reality bro.

http://img.ie/62101.jpg

FrankRep
11-22-2011, 12:48 PM
Creepy 'One Voice' Occupy Protesters Heckle Ron Paul (http://www.infowars.com/creepy-one-voice-occupy-protesters-heckle-ron-paul/)

Infowars.com
November 22, 2011

pcosmar
11-22-2011, 12:54 PM
Creepy 'One Voice' Occupy Protesters Heckle Ron Paul (hxxp://www.infowars.com/creepy-one-voice-occupy-protesters-heckle-ron-paul/)

Infowars.com
November 22, 2011

You have obviously not seen the multiple postings of video and threads on this.

Or that Ron Paul agreed with them.(and was applauded)

FrankRep
11-22-2011, 01:04 PM
You have obviously not seen the multiple postings of video and threads on this.

Or that Ron Paul agreed with them.(and was applauded)
Ron Paul never agreed with the solutions offered by OWS.

FrankRep
11-22-2011, 01:05 PM
LOL.

Occupy DC Protesters: Don't Privatize the Post Office!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?331971-Occupy-DC-Protesters-Don-t-Privatize-the-Post-Office

We are the 99 percent!

CaptainAmerica
11-22-2011, 01:10 PM
We've been protesting the Federal Reserve for 4 years..they can go fly a fucking kite.

pcosmar
11-22-2011, 01:34 PM
Ron Paul never agreed with the solutions offered by OWS.
Who said solutions? Who said Ron agreed with any "solutions"? OWS does not have any solutions.

He agreed with the Problem,, which the protesters presented.

please stop being so deliberately obtuse.

freeforall
11-22-2011, 01:44 PM
perhaps he should examine the roots of the Movement he joined.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XySGw-g2tyk

This was the movement before Adbusters co-opted it.

What are the sources they used for this video? Didn't we learn these things from legislation proposed by Ron Paul? My understanding of the partial audit done on the Fed is limited, so this is a serious question.

Less serious - anyone else think the phrase " protected by anonymous" at the end of the video is a little creepy? I suspect that all of this was planned before before the election and the choice between Obama and Clinton were one and the same. I'd say you all are getting to me, but I was already suspicious during the elections.

dannno
11-22-2011, 01:58 PM
Ron Paul never agreed with the solutions offered by OWS.

After the video posted, he said the quote in my sig:

"I am with the 99%" -Ron Paul

OWS doesn't have solutions that are common among the entire movement, you are trying to project solutions onto them.

pcosmar
11-22-2011, 02:03 PM
What are the sources they used for this video? Didn't we learn these things from legislation proposed by Ron Paul? My understanding of the partial audit done on the Fed is limited, so this is a serious question.

Less serious - anyone else think the phrase " protected by anonymous" at the end of the video is a little creepy? I suspect that all of this was planned before before the election and the choice between Obama and Clinton were one and the same. I'd say you all are getting to me, but I was already suspicious during the elections.

Well,, I don't know if David Degraw got any inspiration from Ron Paul or not. But His site does have a couple of Ron's Videos.
He is certainly not hostile to Ron Paul but does not care for the GOP. or the DNC for that matter.
Anonymous has been fighting for freedom of speech issues for some time, mostly internet related, but not entirely. They are a very diverse group, and they are worldwide so they are not always US oriented.