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Mach
11-17-2011, 03:31 PM
The watchers are watching... as usual. :toady:


http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/spy-plane/

* By Kim Zetter
* November 16, 2011

Not content to spy on people using street cameras, the small city of Lancaster, Calif. approved a resolution last week that will allow a crime-fighting spy plane to fly overhead and watch what’s going on below.

The city council voted unanimously last week to allow the surveillance to begin next May.

The Cessna 172 fixed-wing aircraft, equipped with infrared imaging and a video camera, would fly at altitudes between 1,000 to 3,000 feet, up to 10 hours a day, and feed encrypted video footage directly to the Los Angeles County sheriff’s office.

Instead of being deployed only in response to specific incidents or needs — as most police aircraft is used — the plane would be dispatched for general-purpose surveillance, regardless of whether there’s any suspicion of a crime being committed.

When a 911 call comes in, the location of a suspected crime will be relayed to the aircraft, which will then fly to the scene and begin recording, a sheriff’s spokesman told the Los Angeles Times.

The project, dubbed the Law Enforcement Aerial Platform System, or LEAPS, will cost $1.3 million to launch and thereafter cost the city about $90,000 a month to maintain and operate.

The technology, not surprisingly, was developed by a local company, Spiral Technology.

“The camera could spot a home invasion robbery or track unsuspecting criminals. It could note car accidents so patrol cars could get there more quickly,” city officials told the Times.

But Peter Bibring, senior staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California, told the paper that, “People who have done nothing wrong shouldn’t have anything they do in their yards or homes subject to video surveillance from the sky. To the extent that it involves observing things which a typical pilot overhead might not be able to see, it raises serious constitutional questions.”

The Supreme Court has upheld in two different cases that police aerial surveillance of land surrounding a house or property without a warrant does not constitute a search, since anyone flying overhead can observe what is occurring in that space, and therefore the owner or residence of a property under surveillance has no expectation of privacy.

CaptainAmerica
11-17-2011, 03:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhTRPj9rXaM

this scene comes to mind..

acptulsa
11-17-2011, 08:06 PM
Let's hope they stray over the skunkworks adjacent to Edwards Air Force Base (Area 51 to you) and get themselves shot down.

aGameOfThrones
11-17-2011, 08:24 PM
Breaking news: the city just passed an ordnance saying, "all houses must install a glass roof".

Anti Federalist
11-17-2011, 08:35 PM
The Supreme Court has upheld in two different cases that police aerial surveillance of land surrounding a house or property without a warrant does not constitute a search, since anyone flying overhead can observe what is occurring in that space, and therefore the owner or residence of a property under surveillance has no expectation of privacy.

So, let me see if I have this right...

The government installs a surveillance grid that can watch you 24/7, so, since it can watch you 24/7, therefore you have no expectation of privacy, therefore, we can put you under 24/7 surveillance, that eliminates your expectations of privacy.

And of course, if you were to put up anti IR, ghillie net camouflage over your backyard, so that they couldn't snoop, that would get you a SWAT raid.

We're fucking doomed...

Tod
11-17-2011, 08:44 PM
We're fucking doomed...

Something tells me that some brave soul with one of these would arm it and take the city drone out easy-peasy.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pk5r0BulGU


edit: actually, I guess I don't know that the Cessna would be unmanned....pity the poor pilot who has to fly the thing if it isn't. That would be one DULL job.

coastie
11-17-2011, 08:45 PM
So, let me see if I have this right...

The government installs a surveillance grid that can watch you 24/7, so, since it can watch you 24/7, therefore you have no expectation of privacy, therefore, we can put you under 24/7 surveillance, that eliminates your expectations of privacy.

And of course, if you were to put up anti IR, ghillie net camouflage over your backyard, so that they couldn't snoop, that would get you a SWAT raid.

We're fucking doomed...

Correct. Lets all at least try to make it a slow process, the sooner this shit collapses, the better. I just don't see it in country this size, there is just not enough of "them"....

james1906
11-17-2011, 10:22 PM
So, let me see if I have this right...

The government installs a surveillance grid that can watch you 24/7, so, since it can watch you 24/7, therefore you have no expectation of privacy, therefore, we can put you under 24/7 surveillance, that eliminates your expectations of privacy.

And of course, if you were to put up anti IR, ghillie net camouflage over your backyard, so that they couldn't snoop, that would get you a SWAT raid.

We're fucking doomed...

Those cavemen you call the founding fathers lived in a time before airplanes.

Mach
11-17-2011, 10:51 PM
.....and feed encrypted video footage directly to the Los Angeles County sheriff’s office.

Live spying.... it won't be long after they get started that they will throw some public relations spots on their local news to show people all of the "good" they are doing.

Same subject but with a little more detail......


He has an unwavering belief that this will not only continue to reduce crime in Lancaster, but also provide law enforcement agencies nationwide with a model and tool which will benefit their public safety efforts;

http://www.publicceo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3506:lancaster-unveils-new-aerial-law-enforcement-platform&catid=151:local-governments-publicceo-exclusive&Itemid=20

specialK
11-17-2011, 11:20 PM
Meh.. we're already being spied on illegally here on the border by the US gov't. I've always thought it's just a matter of time before you're all on camera 24/7 nationwide.

http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4128