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Sola_Fide
11-15-2011, 01:33 AM
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Under the laws of the State of Montana, a person is lawfully allowed to receive prescribed amounts of medical marijuana for legitimate health reasons (I know many of these people personally). And contrary to what anyone inside the Beltway says, marijuana in medicinal amounts has been proven to greatly assist people who suffer from a variety of maladies. Furthermore, the misuse of alcohol–which is also known to help treat a variety of illnesses in medicinal amounts, which even the Holy Scripture collaborates in I Timothy 5:23–inflicts far greater havoc upon both the individual user and society in general than marijuana has or could ever inflict.

It is also true that the so-called “war on drugs” by the federal government is not only an abject failure, it has become a tool by which power-hungry despot-wannabes strip hundreds of thousands of harmless, peaceful Americans of their freedoms and liberties. There are tens of thousands of people languishing behind prison walls that have never harmed a single person, have never stolen, have never committed an act of violence, or have never even shown the slightest aggression toward a fellow human being. They languish for decades and even for a lifetime in harsh prison conditions because of this never-ending, always escalating “war on drugs.”

Talk about a financial cost to taxpayers: the cost of incarcerating tens and hundreds of thousands of harmless, nonviolent drug users–not to mention the cost of investigating, arresting, arraigning, and trying them–literally dwarfs whatever the cost would be to let them live peacefully in society, or even to allow churches and special-needs ministries and hospitals to treat them.

But a few things the “war on drugs” does accomplish is it serves as a major reason to increase federal funding for all kinds of Gestapo-like tactics at every level of government; it provides justification for governmental restrictions of civil liberties; and it is a major excuse for the exponential growth of the emerging police state. And dare I even mention the fact that it is now absolutely certain that persons (at the highest levels) and agencies within the federal government have been (and are) reaping gargantuan profits via illegal drug trafficking. As one retired federal agent (that’s right, federal agent) who was personally involved in the feds’ “war on drugs” for decades personally told me, “Chuck, the federal government hates competition.” (I’m not making it up; that’s what he said.) Oh yes! It also allows the ATF to deny Second Amendment rights to more and more people!

America desperately needs State governors to draw a line in the sand against this federal leviathan for the protection of the liberties and freedoms of the citizens within his or her State! Let me say it bluntly: we desperately need a State governors to tell the feds to go to Hades! If State leaders would stop cooperating with and submitting to these would-be tyrants, I am convinced the people of the states would rally behind them in record numbers and speed! I am absolutely convinced that this would be the case in the Mountain States anyway. And when the feds attempt to withhold federal tax dollars from these courageous, albeit recalcitrant states, it needs to be remembered that the states can do likewise. They can withhold tax revenues from the feds: two can play that game! All it would take would be a plucky governor with enough backbone to do it!

In the meantime, combat veterans, people who have taken certain prescription drugs, people who have shown up on no-fly lists, and now people who have been lawfully issued a particular medical card can be denied their right to keep and bear arms by the US government. When will the American people ever have enough?

donnay
11-15-2011, 01:34 AM
I really respect Chuck Baldwin!

Sola_Fide
11-15-2011, 02:22 AM
I really respect Chuck Baldwin!

I like how he comes at the argument from a Biblical perspective, drawing the comparison of the medicinal use of alcohol with the medicinal use of marijuana. This is what brainwashed statist Christians need to understand....on top of the liberty/moral/fiscal arguments.

That is the guy I want standing up to the FEDS for me!

gerryb
11-15-2011, 04:07 AM
http://bobfanning.net/

Chuck Baldwin for Lt. Governor!

amy31416
11-15-2011, 05:58 AM
I'd probably even go to church if Baldwin was the pastor.

Danke
11-15-2011, 06:02 AM
I'd probably even go to church if Baldwin was the pastor.

Whatever it takes.

LibertyEagle
11-15-2011, 06:57 AM
I'd probably even go to church if Baldwin was the pastor.

:eek:

:p

pcosmar
11-15-2011, 08:46 AM
I love it and agree with it 99.5%.
I have one issue with States Rights. It is misusing the words.
People have rights. States have sovereignty. Using the phrase "States Rights" is rather like "Group Rights".
Only people have Rights. Individuals. Love the Idea,, Hate the phrase.
I wish people would start using State Sovereignty.

otherwise,, Yay for Chuck.

flightlesskiwi
11-15-2011, 09:16 AM
i totally agree with Chuck on this.

but i see a problem, especially with those western states and people "rallying behind" the governor. i'll post his comment, and then another example. you all figure out what the problem would be.


America desperately needs State governors to draw a line in the sand against this federal leviathan for the protection of the liberties and freedoms of the citizens within his or her State! Let me say it bluntly: we desperately need a State governors to tell the feds to go to Hades! If State leaders would stop cooperating with and submitting to these would-be tyrants, I am convinced the people of the states would rally behind them in record numbers and speed! I am absolutely convinced that this would be the case in the Mountain States anyway. And when the feds attempt to withhold federal tax dollars from these courageous, albeit recalcitrant states, it needs to be remembered that the states can do likewise. They can withhold tax revenues from the feds: two can play that game! All it would take would be a plucky governor with enough backbone to do it!

compare that statement with this:

New Mexico, perhaps more than other Western states, has retained this dependency. According to a study by the University of New Mexico, the state received a record $18.7 billion in federal money in 2003 — $10,000 per person. That’s four times the size of the state’s general fund. Of that, $5.8 billion "involved procurement by the Departments of Energy and Defense," according to the study. http://www.hcn.org/issues/304/15714

also use this handy little (albeit outdated) reference to further what i'm getting at:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html

Sola_Fide
11-15-2011, 09:24 AM
I love it and agree with it 99.5%.
I have one issue with States Rights. It is misusing the words.
People have rights. States have sovereignty. Using the phrase "States Rights" is rather like "Group Rights".
Only people have Rights. Individuals. Love the Idea,, Hate the phrase.
I wish people would start using State Sovereignty.

otherwise,, Yay for Chuck.

Agree. I like that phrase better too.

donnay
11-15-2011, 09:40 AM
I'd probably even go to church if Baldwin was the pastor.

I certainly agree! At least Pastor Baldwin isn't on the take like so many pastors are in their 501c3 churches. He is also part of the Black Regiment--a Patriot Pastor!

Sola_Fide
11-15-2011, 09:47 AM
i totally agree with Chuck on this.

but i see a problem, especially with those western states and people "rallying behind" the governor. i'll post his comment, and then another example. you all figure out what the problem would be.



compare that statement with this:


also use this handy little (albeit outdated) reference to further what i'm getting at:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html


Yeah, I do hear ya. But could you imagine the firestorm that one state could create if it withheld tax revenue from the Federal government??? I could see Anti-Federalist and Pcosmar starting a fringe gun-hoarding militia/cult and moving up there just for the fireworks.:)

Tinnuhana
11-15-2011, 10:29 AM
What also can happen is that as Chuck is getting out there and campaigning, articles about his stances will leak over into Iowa, where the base will take another look at Ron Paul's platform because Pastor Chuck is saying the same thing.

Kylie
11-15-2011, 11:37 AM
What also can happen is that as Chuck is getting out there and campaigning, articles about his stances will leak over into Iowa, where the base will take another look at Ron Paul's platform because Pastor Chuck is saying the same thing.


From your lips to God's ears! :D

I hope the Pastor gets elected.

Pericles
11-15-2011, 01:15 PM
If they actually do it, I'd move to Montana to be a part of that.

GeorgiaAvenger
11-15-2011, 06:59 PM
If they actually do it, I'd move to Montana to be a part of that.
There could be a new Free State Project

amy31416
11-15-2011, 07:05 PM
There could be a new Free State Project

Free State Project, Mid-West version. For those who can't stomach NH's property taxes. Perhaps the FSP was a bit short-sighted in thinking they had to start with one state.

Now they'd need a West coast and Southern state. Pick a county and start there.