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Created4
11-13-2011, 07:18 PM
As the government continues to deny the vaccine-autism link and the rates of autism continue to skyrocket, we are going to see more and more stories like this unfold. Brian Hooker is a PhD scientist, and his son became autistic after receiving a vaccine. Since 2005 he has been trying to get access to the CDC's data that claims thimerosal in vaccines is safe, using the Freedom of Information Act. The CDC has been stalling for 5 years, so he has taken a lawsuit out to try to force them to release the information. In his investigation he has discovered that Julie Gerberding, the head of the CDC from 2002 through 2009, went from earning $250,000 a year to earning $2.5 million dollars a year as the president of Merck Vaccine Division, a ten-fold increase, AFTER leaving the CDC and restructuring the agency to take a pro-vaccine position that benefited Merck.

Read More: http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/cdc-continues-to-withhold-information-regarding-thimerosal-in-vaccines/

donnay
11-13-2011, 07:24 PM
It's totally sickening...all one has to do is follow the money trail to see whether or not you would trust these people. These people are not to be trusted!!

This is all part of a eugenicist program!

Horrifying State-Sponsored Eugenics Program Forcibly Sterilized Thousands of American Women
http://jezebel.com/5857121/state+sponsored-eugenics-program-forcibly-sterilized-thousands-of-american-women

Inny Binny
11-13-2011, 07:27 PM
Well, perhaps the CDC is ripe for dismantling, but it's hardly because of some pseudobabble about vaccines and autism.

Created4
11-13-2011, 07:55 PM
Well, perhaps the CDC is ripe for dismantling, but it's hardly because of some pseudobabble about vaccines and autism.

I see. And since the link to mercury and autism has been established, you prefer to agree with the CDC that the mercury in thimerosal somehow is not responsible for increasing autism? If that is true then why are they fighting the FOIA request for their studies? (see story link above.) If there is such a thing as "pseudobabble", it is what comes out of the CDC. Please explain why the government vaccine compensation program has compensated scores of families whose children have become autistic after receiving vaccines?? http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/83-cases-of-autism-associated-with-childhood-vaccine-just-tip-of-the-iceberg/

Zippyjuan
11-13-2011, 10:00 PM
And since the link to mercury and autism has been established,
Let us see. Mercury was removed from vaccines for children (not just in the US but some countries in Europe as well) several years ago and the growth of the autism rate didn't slow one bit. If mercury in childhood vaccines was indeed causing autism, then the rate should have declined (or at least slowed) but it instead went the other way. That is pretty strong proof that a cause- effect link between children getting vaccinated and getting autism due to the mercury content does not exist.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/93217.php

Autism spectrum disorders continued to rise in the state of California, US, even after mercury-containing thimerosal was removed from childhood vaccines, suggesting that exposure to the compound is not a cause of autism, as claimed by some groups.

These are the findings of a study published in the January issue of the journal Archives of General Psychiatry that was carried out by Drs Robert Schechter and Judith K. Grether of the California Department of Public Health, based in Richmond.

Diagnosed cases of autism spectrum disorders, which include autism and related conditions, have been rising steadily in the last few years, said the authors.


A certain percent of people getting a vaccine willl be involved in a traffic accident during the next month. Does that mean that the vaccine caused them to have an accident? Causality and corelation can be difficult to determine but again in this case, the potential souce was eliminated and the problem only got worse. Autism tends to show up at a certain stage of development- and that coincides with some of the childhood vaccinations- this is true. But is that proof that it is the vaccine whihc is causing it? No. One stronger corelation found is that between autism and the age of the parents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/09/health/09autism.html

In a study published online on Monday in the journal Autism Research, the researchers analyzed almost five million births in California during the 1990s, and 12,159 cases of autism diagnosed in those children — a sample large enough to examine how the risk of autism was affected when one parent was a specific age and the other was the same age or considerably older or younger.

Previous research found that the risk of autism grew with the age of the father. The new study suggested that when the father was over 40 and the mother under 30, the increased risk was especially pronounced — 59 percent greater than for younger men.

By contrast, for women 30 and older, the risk of autism rose 13 percent when the father was over 40.

Every five-year increase in a mother’s age raised her risk of having a child with autism by 18 percent; a 40-year-old woman’s risk was 50 percent greater than that of a woman who became a mother in her late 20s, and 77 percent higher than that of a woman under 25.

rambone
11-14-2011, 12:08 AM
Let us see. Mercury was removed from vaccines for children (not just in the US but some countries in Europe as well) several years ago and the growth of the autism rate didn't slow one bit.[/url]
Thimerosal (mercury compound) is still present in flu-shots that are pushed on Americans annually from birth to death. Yes, to this day, in 2011.

Its not ALL about the mercury either. Aluminum compounds, Formaldehyde, and other neurotoxins and poisons are present in those magic wellness shots. Your brain and organs just love fending off toxic chemicals.

Ask my sister. She had a seizure immediately after receiving the Gardasil vaccine. She woke up in the exam room with the entire staff of the clinic holding her arms and legs down. The doctor said it was probably caused by what she ate for breakfast. Certainly not the drugs he pressured her to get.

F*** vaccines and F*** the CDC.

Created4
11-14-2011, 12:13 AM
Let us see. Mercury was removed from vaccines for children (not just in the US but some countries in Europe as well) several years ago and the growth of the autism rate didn't slow one bit.

Not true. When mercury was removed from vaccines in Denmark in 1992, the rates of autism went down. This infuriated the pro-vaccine cartel, however, and they did everything they could to refute this with epidemiological studies. Always look and see who is funding these studies, and note the revolving door between government and pharmaceutical companies, as is noted above. A good commentary on some of these studies that supposedly refute the Danish data is found here: http://www.safeminds.org/research/commentary.html

As to the rate of autism not going down here in the US, one must also look at the correlation of increased vaccination schedules, which continue to increase. Here is a good 16 minute video by Dr. Tenpenny that gives a very good overview:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CAJb01ZiJNk

Inkblots
11-14-2011, 12:16 AM
Well, perhaps the CDC is ripe for dismantling, but it's hardly because of some pseudobabble about vaccines and autism.

Indeed. Reality-based arguments for ending Federal programs are more than sufficient, there's no need to resort to conspiracism.

Created4
11-14-2011, 12:24 AM
Indeed. Reality-based arguments for ending Federal programs are more than sufficient, there's no need to resort to conspiracism.

"Conspiracism?" Did you even read the article? It is a 5 year battle with the CDC to release information regarding their supposed studies stating that thimerosal is safe, and the CDC has basically said they are above the law and that they are not going to release the information. Then Julie Gerberding heads the CDC and implements a restructuring of the department that benefits pharmaceutical companies creating vaccines, and then leaves the CDC to go work for the vaccine division of Merck at ten times the pay, and that is "conspiracism?" I call that cronyism.

Created4
11-14-2011, 12:32 AM
Inkblots - you're in California. Did you know your governor recently signed a bill allowing 12 year olds to receive the Gardasil vaccine without parental consent? Now schools and doctors can inject them without their parents consenting and fulfill their quota. See: http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/governor-brown-takes-away-parents-rights-in-new-california-vaccine-law/

And yes, school districts actually have quotas on number of children vaccinated to receive government funding in most school districts in California:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLkQo_ELDIk&feature=related

School districts may lose funds for unvaccinated students
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By Melody Gutierrez
mgutierrez@sacbee.com
Published: Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2011 - 12:00 am | Page 1B
Last Modified: Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2011 - 9:37 am
Cash-strapped school districts are grappling with the potential loss of funding for students sent home for not having a state- mandated whooping cough vaccination or exemption on file.

Many students still haven't gotten their shots on time, and their districts are at risk of losing aid.

Some districts are sending unvaccinated students home as the law states, and some are allowing them to attend classes even without the shots.

The question is: Will the state pay school districts for any unvaccinated student?

Natomas Unified was so concerned that it sent officials and a nurse door-to-door Friday to dozens of students' homes in hopes of getting them vaccinated.

donnay
11-14-2011, 12:35 AM
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Zippyjuan
11-14-2011, 01:06 AM
Not true. When mercury was removed from vaccines in Denmark in 1992, the rates of autism went down.
Can you provide us with a chart showing this?
Can you dispute the US figures of rising rates even after thimerisol was removed from chidhood vaccines?
Thank you for the input.


On May 17, 2004, a committee of the Institute of Medicine (IOM) released a report concluding that the scientific evidence "favors rejection of a causal relationship" between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism. An earlier review in 2001 found the evidence available at that time was too thin to draw that conclusion, but the 2004 report was based on more than 200 studies and papers. It found that "all well-designed epidemiological studies provide evidence of no association between thimerosal and autism," and it recommended that instead of spending more money chasing a theoretical link to thimerosal, research dollars should be directed at more promising areas of inquiry.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-07-06-autism_x.htm

Scientists admit they don't know precisely what causes autism, though they believe it has a genetic component triggered by something in the environment, possibly occurring during the first trimester of pregnancy, which would eliminate infant vaccines as a candidate. Among studies cited by IOM was one that found autism rates in Denmark actually increased after thimerosal-containing vaccines were discontinued in 1992.




http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/112/3/604.full

Design. Analysis of data from the Danish Psychiatric Central Research Register recording all psychiatric admissions since 1971, and all outpatient contacts in psychiatric departments in Denmark since 1995.

Patients. All children between 2 and 10 years old who were diagnosed with autism during the period from 1971–2000.

Outcome Measures. Annual and age-specific incidence for first day of first recorded admission with a diagnosis of autism in children between 2 and 10 years old.

Results. A total of 956 children with a male-to-female ratio of 3.5:1 had been diagnosed with autism during the period from 1971–2000. There was no trend toward an increase in the incidence of autism during that period when thimerosal was used in Denmark, up through 1990. From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal.

Conclusions. The discontinuation of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an increase in the incidence of autism. Our ecological data do not support a correlation between thimerosal-containing vaccines and the incidence of autism.


http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/112/3/604/F1.medium.gif

As for who was behind this study:

The activities of the Danish Epidemiology Science Centre and the National Centre for Register-Based Research are funded by a grant from the Danish National Research Foundation. This study was supported by the Stanley Medical Research Institute. No funding sources were involved in the study design.

Zippyjuan
11-14-2011, 01:17 AM
In the real world, you see, injecting children with DNA fragments harvested from diseased animals seems utterly senseless. In the real world, the human immune system is an amazing system of biotechnology that doesn't need chemical assistance to function properly. In the real world, teenage girls are dropping dead within hours after receiving HPV vaccine injections.


Can anybody provide any numbers showing how many girls are dropping dead each year within hours of receiving their HPV vaccinations? (No, I don't think this should be a mandatory vaccine in the first place). Curious. The article sounds like it is hundreds or thousands dying shortly after getting vaccinated.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/CancerPreventionAndTreatment/gardasil-hpv-vaccine-faces-safety-questions/story?id=8356717&page=2

As of June 1, 2009, the CDC reported that over 25 million doses of Gardasil, which is recommended for women between ages 9-26, have been distributed in the U.S. and there was an average of 53.9 VAERS reports per 100,000 vaccine doses. Of these, 40 percent occurred on the day of vaccination, and 6.2 percent were serious, including 32 reports of death.

Any deaths is sad but 32 out of 25 million is not a significant number.

Created4
11-14-2011, 09:20 AM
Can anybody provide any numbers showing how many girls are dropping dead each year within hours of receiving their HPV vaccinations? (No, I don't think this should be a mandatory vaccine in the first place). Curious. The article sounds like it is hundreds or thousands dying shortly after getting vaccinated.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/CancerPreventionAndTreatment/gardasil-hpv-vaccine-faces-safety-questions/story?id=8356717&page=2


Any deaths is sad but 32 out of 25 million is not a significant number.

Where do you see "hundreds or thousands"? I don't know anyone claiming that. Your own source shows deaths, for a worthless vaccine that is being forced on young girls, now against their parents' wishes in some cases. Also, by the CDC's own admission, only a very small percentage of adverse effects are reported and recorded in VAERS. 53.9 per 100,000 reported is A LOT considering that some effects may not been seen until years later, and be so far removed from the time of the vaccine as to not be associated with it, such as infertility when the girls become child-bearing age.

Created4
11-14-2011, 09:41 AM
Can you dispute the US figures of rising rates even after thimerisol was removed from chidhood vaccines?
Thank you for the input.


I am not disputing this. As I (and others) have said in previous comments, no one is claiming that mercury is the sole cause of autism or neurological disorders. There are many other nuero toxins given in vaccines, and many other factors to consider. The number of vaccines the U.S. currently gives to infants less than one year old is the one of the highest of any country in the world, and we also have one of the highest rates of infant mortality, ranked 34th in the world. See: http://het.sagepub.com/content/early/2011/05/04/0960327111407644.full.pdf+html

Yes, I realize that these statistics are correlation, and do not prove causation. But the same thing can be said over the supposed effectiveness of vaccines and reduction of diseases. The pro-vaccine research also only shows correlation, and there are other factors to consider besides vaccines. They also conveniently leave out the polio stats in the UK in the 19th century that show polio was already in decline before vaccines were mandated, and then rates started increasing for a while after vaccines were mandated. For a good interview with a pharma vaccine insider turned whistleblower see this article: http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/ex-vaccine-developer-reveals-lies-the-vaccine-industry-is-built-upon-in-interview/

As to the dangers of the Thimerosal, here is an interesting report about how other countries view it who are not controlled by the CDC, FDA, and WHO: http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/who-cdc-and-fda-scorned-at-third-un-mercury-conference-on-thimerosal-in-vaccines/

I am curious as to why you are defending the CDC? Do you work in government or for the pharmaceutical industry?

Cinderella
11-14-2011, 09:46 AM
the issue i have with the HPV vaccine, without getting into the scientifics, is that we are the population that it is being tested on....this is not a vaccine that has been around for 30+ years...this isnt a vaccine that has years of research studies done....the ones taking the vaccine NOW will be the ones they will be writing about in 20+ years! no thanks :)

jkr
11-14-2011, 10:01 AM
Any deaths is sad but 32 out of 25 million is not a significant number.

unless ,of course, it is you


statistical analysis used to justify the unnecessary deaths of human beings=eugenics