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rambone
11-13-2011, 02:48 AM
If you had to rate them, in order of best to worst (ideologically). Explain if you would like... especially who you think the worst is.

1. Ron Paul
2. Gary Johnson
3. John Huntsman
4. Michelle Bachmann
5. Herman Cain
6. Rick Santorum
7. Rick Perry
8. Mitt Romney
9. Newt Gingrich


My Commentary:
Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are no-brainers at the top of my list.

John Huntsman actually strikes me as a decent candidate. He said tonight that he would bring the troops home from Afghanistan immediately and he is against waterboarding. He has some flaws but he doesn't reek of the Establishment.

Michelle Bachmann... could be somewhat tolerable... I guess. She's a little too in-bed with Israel and the Military-Industrial Complex. But she's also not as bad as some of these folks. She never supported bailouts and she had good things to say during the vaccination call-out of Rick Perry. She may not be so rabid about expanding the Police State.

Herman Cain seems like a puppet, I have very little trust to give him. He'd do what he is told. He seems pretty dumb with all his gaffes and lack of understanding of different topics. That actually moved him up on my list because dumb is less frightening than evil.

Rick Santorum cannot wait to get into another war. He'd also push moral dictates on us in a heartbeat. No way.

Rick Perry. The list is getting pretty scary at this point. He's a Bilderberger and vaccine-pusher. Definitely a globalist.

Mitt Romney is such a blatant liar and phoney. He's a gun-grabbing socialist. Absolutely cannot be trusted.

Newt Gingrich is the worst of them all, bar none. He's a political chameleon, extra dangerous because people actually trust him and think that he's conservative. In reality he's a total, unabashed NWO globalist. He's sold out our sovereignty and the free market his whole career. He's rabidly pro-war and pro-Police-State. He wants to end free speech and execute people for non-violent crimes. He absolutely scares the crap out of me.

rp08orbust
11-13-2011, 02:55 AM
Pointless exercise IMHO. If you were ranking GWB based only on his 1999-2000 campaign rhetoric without any knowledge of his presidency, you might rank him 3rd among the candidates above. All of them except Ron Paul and Gary Johnson (and even Gary I'm not so sure about) would govern in the worst possible way, regardless of anything they say between now and the election.

bluesc
11-13-2011, 02:57 AM
Paul
Johnson
Bachmann
Huntsman
Santorum

I really don't like Johnson, as I don't trust him, and some of his positions go against everything I believe. Bachmann is pretty fiscally conservative, and I would support a national ban on abortion (even though it wouldn't eliminate it) as I believe life is one of those liberties that the federal government must protect. Huntsman would at least draw down the troops to a counter-terrorism only role. None of the other candidates really have any positions that I would support.

Aside from Ron, I might be able to drag myself out to vote for Johnson, but no one else.

jlaker
11-13-2011, 03:02 AM
For Fun Cause it's really Ron Paul or nothing.
1. Ron Paul
2. Gary Johnson
3. John Huntsman
4. Herman Cain
5.Newt Gingrich
6.Mitt Romney
7.Michelle Bachmann
8.Rick Santorum
9.Rick Perry
Really the last three made me sick. At least as dumb as they are I can sit back and laugh at 3-6 but, the last three OMG.

hb6102
11-13-2011, 03:33 AM
Paul
Johnson
Roemer
Huntsman
Perry ( 4yrs of material for the Daily Show - comedy gold)
Obama
Gingrich
Frothy
Romney
Bachmann
Cain

BuddyRey
11-13-2011, 03:39 AM
Paul
Huntsman
Gingrich
Bachmann
Cain
Perry
Santorum
Romney

Rudeman
11-13-2011, 04:31 AM
Ron Paul

and that's it. I can't support any of the others because of their foreign policy stances. I don't trust Huntsman and Johnson waffles. For me it's either Ron Paul, 3rd party or I won't vote.

TheTexan
11-13-2011, 08:14 AM
A lot of the candidates say appealing things. Like limited government, cut spending etc. Even Romney!

It's a shame they don't actually do any of those things, and because they don't, my list is:

1. Paul
2. Paul
3. Paul
....

1000. Paul
1001. Paul
1002. Paul
1003. Johnson

....

27345. A comatose zoo animal

....

37858. Right leaning socialist Huntsman
37859. Lying snake oil salesman Cain
37860. Crazy warmonger Bachmann
37861. Irresponsible blowtard Perry
37862. Frothy (hey at least he's honest)
37863. Obama-lite Romney
37864. Romney-lite Gingrich

eduardo89
11-13-2011, 08:21 AM
1. Ron Paul
2. Barack Obama

Inny Binny
11-13-2011, 08:30 AM
1. Paul
2. Johnson
3. Huntsman
{Obama}
4. Romney
5. Gingrich
6. Cain
7. Perry
8. Bachmann
9. Santorum

It's really hard to separate Johnson and Paul, not because they're both completely amazing, but because neither of them are exactly perfect. With Paul it's the whole paleoconservative vibe...pro-life, iffy on immigration, adherence to states rights over individual rights etc. Whereas Johnson seems to be a bit moderate on everything. Both okay though.

sanssq
11-13-2011, 08:32 AM
Paul~~~ will campaign for and finance
Johnson~~~ would campaign for and finance
Huntsman ~~~ might vote for if nominated
___________________
Perry (for his position on Keynesian's and the Fed). ~~~would not vote for but might not campaign against if nominated
Bachman ~~~Would not vote for but might not campaign against if nominated
Romney ~~~Would not vote for but might not campaign against if nominated
__________________________________________________ __________________
Gingrich ~~~Would actively campaign against
Santorum ~~~Would actively campaign against
Cain Would~~~ Would actively campaign against

If any other than the top three are nominated, I will shift my support to RJ Harris for the Libertarian party endorsement. If RJ isn't nominated, I will look at the Libertarian party nominee or the Constitution party nominee. I may just write in Ron Paul anyway, but I'd like to give support to a third party to encourage them.

FreeTraveler
11-13-2011, 08:46 AM
No. One. But. Paul.

TYVM.

freeforall
11-13-2011, 09:08 AM
1. Ron Paul
2. apathy

KevinR
11-13-2011, 09:25 AM
1. Ron Paul
2. Move Abroad

sailingaway
11-13-2011, 10:04 AM
Paul

Why would anyone consider anyone beyond the one they plan to vote for in the primary?

We are only allowed one vote.

Echoes
11-13-2011, 10:10 AM
Just Ron.

Johnson is overrated, he's not for an end to the fed, irs, war on drugs, all military bases, etc plus he's pro abortion.

The rest are outright nazi scum.

Pizzo
11-13-2011, 10:10 AM
1. Ron Paul
2. Ronald Ernest Paul
3. Congressman Paul
4. Dr. Paul
5. Free State Project

Johnnymac
11-13-2011, 10:15 AM
NO ONE BUT PAUL!

Uriah
11-13-2011, 10:22 AM
1) Paul
2) None
3) third party(if anyone good is running)

Jingles
11-13-2011, 10:28 AM
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Maybe Huntsman (I don't know enough about him to make a choice)
Vote third party.

ShaneEnochs
11-13-2011, 10:30 AM
Ron Paul
No one.

PeacePlan
11-13-2011, 10:35 AM
Ron Paul
Nobody
Nobody
and then in last place nobody..

RDM
11-13-2011, 10:48 AM
1. Ron Paul
2. Move Abroad

You beat me to it.

Travlyr
11-13-2011, 11:13 AM
Ron Paul
No One Else

He is the only one talking sense. End the destructive force behind our monetary policy.

ItztehBean
11-13-2011, 02:17 PM
Ron Paul. Or I'm moving to North Korea.

But if I had to rank an order of GOP candidate preference regarding how they should be defamed in media, here's the order:

1. Neuter Gingrich (trap-spray-neuter)
2. Baritt Obamney (export to China?)
3. Frothy Mix (live session with Dan Savage)
4. Koch-Cain and Bat Boy Bachmann (perform waterboarding)
5. Rick Perry (hand him a pretzel)
6. Jon Huntsman?
7. Gary Johnson?

GaryJohnson2016
11-13-2011, 03:08 PM
Newt Gingrich is the worst of them all, bar none. He wants to end free speech and execute people for non-violent crimes. He absolutely scares the crap out of me.

What? Details on this?

1836
11-13-2011, 03:19 PM
1. Ron Paul
2. Gary Johnson
3. Michele Bachmann
4. Jon Huntsman
5. Newt Gingrich
6. Rick Santorum
7. Rick Perry
8. Herman Cain
9. Mitt Romney

BOLD are the only candidates I could ever vote for in the GOP primary.

ShaneEnochs
11-13-2011, 03:30 PM
1. Ron Paul
2. Gary Johnson
3. Michele Bachmann
4. Jon Huntsman
5. Newt Gingrich
6. Rick Santorum
7. Rick Perry
8. Herman Cain
9. Mitt Romney

BOLD are the only candidates I could ever vote for in the GOP primary.

I'm curious as to why you would choose Bachman over Huntsman? Huntsman is slightly closer to Paul's philosophy than Bachman.

No Free Beer
11-13-2011, 03:42 PM
1. Paul
2. Johnson
3. Huntsman

simplyjacy
11-13-2011, 03:51 PM
1. Dr. Ron Paul
2. Write-In: Dr. Ron Paul

i would not even consider voting for a 3rd party. If Ron doesn't get the nomination, 3rd party would not even stand the chance to get the presidency. It's time for us to unite and let our voices be heard that No One Else but PAUL.

sailingaway
11-13-2011, 03:59 PM
I'm curious as to why you would choose Bachman over Huntsman? Huntsman is slightly closer to Paul's philosophy than Bachman.

that really depends. On a Constitutional approach to action Bachmann has distinct gaps but at least seems systematic. Neither Johnson nor Huntsman do, they seem both more 'how much can I get' kind of guys with no particular fixed principles, to me, just guidelines. Having said that, I am only considering Ron in the primary, and no way is she getting further than that.

No Free Beer
11-13-2011, 04:00 PM
either way, im writing ron paul in...

Liberty74
11-13-2011, 04:11 PM
1. Paul as a Republican
2. Paul as an Independent
3. Does it really matter?

I noticed that some put Obama in their list. You could not pay me enough to vote for such gangster criminal scumbag. I like Johnson and Huntsman as possible alternatives. Honestly people, I just don't trust anyone except RP. I like what many "say" but when you look at their voting history and whatnot, I loose interest quickly.

FreeTraveler
11-13-2011, 04:23 PM
Srlsy, why does it matter?

Will any of those other candidates end the War on (Some) Drugs?

Will any of those other candidates seriously address the illegal wars?

Will any of those other candidates address the failure of our monetary system?

Will any of those other candidates do anything about the Patriot Act?

Will any of those other candidates use the bully pulpit to address crony capitalism, the welfare/warfare state, or the fallacy of "too big to fail?"

Do any of those candidates have the knowledge and experience to even address those issues?

Will the world actually improve in significant ways with anyone but Paul?

We all know the answers to those questions. Don't kid yourselves.

There are solid reasons the two candidates even remotely resembling Ron Paul in some areas are more marginalized than he.

Anybody else is simply the selection of Bush IV in hopes of unseating Bush III.

1836
11-13-2011, 04:33 PM
I'm curious as to why you would choose Bachman over Huntsman? Huntsman is slightly closer to Paul's philosophy than Bachman.

While Huntsman is okay on some foreign policy issues, and Bachmann clearly isn't, at least she has some sense of the Constitution and has fought the GOP establishment to the point that I believe she would have no qualms about cutting radically as president. She opposed the debt deal and has taken a hard-line on spending.

BethanyGrace
11-13-2011, 04:35 PM
1. Paul
2. Disappointment

I had a difficult time choosing between Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, and Paul (hard to believe) for the Iowa Straw Poll; and I would still (very sadly and grudgingly) vote for just about any Republican except Romney just to spite the Democrat.

But if we really want change, we have to have Paul. If Paul doesn't get the nomination, we'll just have more of the same. No change. The future of my United States? dark. My future? I'd despair if it were not for Jesus Christ who gave Betsy ten Boom liberty even in a Nazi concentration camp.

Give me liberty; give me liberty!
For one thing I plead, that’s liberty!

Liberty in darkest lands,
With trouble on every hand?
Liberty behind prison walls?
This one thing I recall:

There is no pit so deep
That God’s not deeper still!
There’s no mountain too steep:
God’s love can be seen on every hill!

He sent His Son to manumit
Those who in darkness did sit.
Servants of sin are set free;
His grace reaches even me!

Praise God in the highest heaven!
Spread the news to every nation.
Praise God in all creation
For His wondrous salvation!

marhlfld
11-13-2011, 04:39 PM
Ron Paul or nothing. I'll write him in. If he doesn't win, the country is done. In fact, it may already be done. We might end up with no election, just a martial law dictatorship of Obama. Ron Paul even said something like we have MAYBE a year before total default. Then its a NWO currency.

1836
11-13-2011, 04:41 PM
1. Paul
2. Disappointment

I had a difficult time choosing between Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, and Paul (hard to believe) for the Iowa Straw Poll; and I would still (very sadly and grudgingly) vote for just about any Republican except Romney just to spite the Democrat.

But if we really want change, we have to have Paul. If Paul doesn't get the nomination, we'll just have more of the same. No change. The future of my United States? dark. My future? I'd despair if it were not for Jesus Christ who gave Betsy ten Boom liberty even in a Nazi concentration camp.

Give me liberty; give me liberty!
For one thing I plead, that’s liberty!

Liberty in darkest lands,
With trouble on every hand?
Liberty behind prison walls?
This one thing I recall:

There is no pit so deep
That God’s not deeper still!
There’s no mountain too steep:
God’s love can be seen on every hill!

He sent His Son to manumit
Those who in darkness did sit.
Servants of sin are set free;
His grace reaches even me!

Praise God in the highest heaven!
Spread the news to every nation.
Praise God in all creation
For His wondrous salvation!

WELCOME to the liberty movement!

BethanyGrace
11-13-2011, 04:47 PM
WELCOME to the liberty movement!

Thanks, I'm loving it :)

Cleaner44
11-13-2011, 04:49 PM
No One But PAUL!

DavidK
11-13-2011, 04:52 PM
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Jon Huntsman

Screw the rest.

PursuePeace
11-13-2011, 04:58 PM
1. Ron Paul
2. lol.. that's a good one.

NOBP.

GopBlackList
11-13-2011, 05:05 PM
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Jon Huntsman

Screw the rest.


my list too

Ray
11-13-2011, 05:06 PM
1) Paul
2) Johnson
3) Huntsman
4) Obama
5) Gingrich
6) Bachmann
7) Perry
8) Romney
9) Santorum

hammy
11-13-2011, 05:45 PM
1. Ron Paul
2. apathy

This. This exactly.

rambone
11-13-2011, 11:30 PM
Newt Gingrich is the worst of them all, bar none. He wants to end free speech and execute people for non-violent crimes. He absolutely scares the crap out of me.

What? Details on this?

Please check this list out.

Comprehensive list of Newt Gingrich positions (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?329010-Comprehensive-list-of-Newt-Gingrich-positions)

He's supported curbing free speech on the internet to fight terror, supported the Fairness Doctrine, wants to execute drug smugglers, he called the Wikileaks owner an "enemy combatant" and thought he should be hunted down and killed.

Yeah, he is about as Fascist as they come.

rambone
11-13-2011, 11:33 PM
The real reason I set up this question was to see how favorable people were viewing Newt Gingrich. He's fooling quite a few of us it seems.

He should be nowhere near the top of your list.

NeoconTea
11-14-2011, 12:45 AM
1. Paul
2. Johnson
3. Huntsman
(Obama - endure the 4 years with any of the below clowns and hope for a real candidate next time)
4. Bachmann (seems to be honest about getting economic reform done and stole Ron's plan but is a Frothy-lite in social/foreign policy)
5. Cain (he's tied to the supposedly "libertarian" Kochs, I think he might be more pro-liberty if he actually gets in office, but he still sucks majorly. still, no policy can be better than a bad one.)
6. Romney (I think he'd be almost fine if it werent for foreign policy, but that foreign policy team chock full o neocons is WAY too scary)
7. Perry (who needs a teleprompter when you can have a big oil exec whispering in your ear)
8. Santorum (all the bad neocon and socon positions to an extreme)
9. Gingrich (the worst of all the other candidates combined. mean and power hungry, he would be a ruthless dictator.)

Dianne
11-14-2011, 07:56 AM
Paul
Johnson
Huntsman
Bachmann
Obama
Perry
Cain
Gingrich
Santorum
Romney

SilentBull
11-14-2011, 08:52 AM
1. Ron Paul
2. Gary Johnson

truthspeaker
11-14-2011, 12:26 PM
Just for kicks:

1. Ron Paul
2. Johnson
4. Bachman?
4.5 Huntsman--really don't know enough about him. Was for Newt originally, until I read some things about him.
5. At this point I'd go Constitution Party or Libertarian Party
6. Reform Party
7. Cain
8. Jimmy McMillan (He's supposedly running as a Republican too--you know, the "Rent is too Damn High" party) jk, wouldn't actually vote for him, but I'd have to say he does have charisma.

Won't vote for Perry or Romney.

truthspeaker
11-14-2011, 12:27 PM
Okay, just may change my mind about Newt. Wow, we don't really have a stellar lineup in the GOP this race. What happened?

Brian4Liberty
11-14-2011, 12:34 PM
I have three top candidates I would support, and first and foremost is Ron Paul. Secondly, Gary Johnson would be acceptable. And for number three, it would be, uh, number three would be, hmm, I can't remember number three. Oops. ;)

Brian4Liberty
11-14-2011, 12:36 PM
So many people having Huntsman at number three leads me to wonder if the media and establishment push for Huntsman is primarily directed at Ron Paul supporters?

Ronulus
11-14-2011, 12:41 PM
No one but Paul!

enoch150
11-14-2011, 01:14 PM
Paul
Johnson
Huntsman
Bachman
Cain
Romney
Gingrich
Obama
Santorum
Perry

Perry is the most dangerous to liberty, but the bottom half of that group all desire to run every aspect of other people's lives while the 4 below Paul only want to run a part of other people's lives.

Athan
11-14-2011, 01:21 PM
1. Ron Paul
2. Gary Johnson
3. John Huntsman
4. Michelle Bachmann
5. Buddy Rohmer
6. Herman Cain
7. Rick Perry
8. Newt Gingrich
9. Mitt Romney
10. Rick Santorum

Benjam
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
1. Ron Paul
2. Write in Ron Paul
3. Rand Paul 2016. Guaranteed win, especially if GOP loses against Obama. (Rand's stance on sanctions against Iran is still unknown to me, which could change my position.)