U.S. Antidumping Rules Kill American Jobs

[Wesker1982]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD9vK5bCS7I&feature=player_embedded

[Becker]

you act like jobs are some sacred thing that's always good to have, always bad to lose.

[ShaneEnochs]

you act like jobs are some sacred thing that's always good to have, always bad to lose.

A job is a bad thing to have?

[specsaregood]

A job is a bad thing to have?

he didn't say that.

[Wesker1982]

you act like jobs are some sacred thing that's always good to have, always bad to lose.

Economics is value free.

[Becker]

Economics is value free.

economics may be value free, but jobs are not.

[Becker]

he didn't say that.

correct, thanks. I never said jobs are bad to have, I just said jobs are not always good to have, and bad to lose. I am honest enough to admit some people don't deserve jobs, and some jobs don't deserve to exist. Contrary to the belief that either all people deserve jobs or only jobs is the legitimate way to live normally.

[FlatIron]

The video may be right about jobs, but what about the wealth taken from the U.S. because of imports? How do we know China may stop or at least limit trade with us when its imports exceed their exports?

[Becker]

The video may be right about jobs, but what about the wealth taken from the U.S. because of imports? How do we know China may stop or at least limit trade with us when its imports exceed their exports?

exactly, and you are right in using the word WEALTH, not jobs. Nobody wants jobs, we want wealth, and if we can do it without jobs, we would. Jobs are for people who don't know how else to create wealth.

[Gaddafi Duck]

Hmm..marginal increase in the number of jobs available in this country, or preserve our aquifers that without would raise the cost of doing business far above what anti-dumping laws do.

I'm not saying our anti-dumping laws are the be-all end-all, and I know someone is going to mention property rights, but if you dump hazardous material even on your property and that leaches miles down to the aquifers, that taints a water source we can't reinvent.

Like it's been said, there are more important things than jobs...like, say, reasonably clean water to live off of.

[Fox McCloud]

Hmm..marginal increase in the number of jobs available in this country, or preserve our aquifers that without would raise the cost of doing business far above what anti-dumping laws do.

I'm not saying our anti-dumping laws are the be-all end-all, and I know someone is going to mention property rights, but if you dump hazardous material even on your property and that leaches miles down to the aquifers, that taints a water source we can't reinvent.

Like it's been said, there are more important things than jobs...like, say, reasonably clean water to live off of.

.....Did you even listen to the video?

"Dumping" has nothing to do with hazardous waste disposal; it's 100% a trade policy.

In either case, the video is great, and they also make note of the fact it increases wealth, as well, with higher profit margins and lower costs for consumers.

So it's a double win--more jobs and more net wealth.

[Becker]

Hmm..marginal increase in the number of jobs available in this country, or preserve our aquifers that without would raise the cost of doing business far above what anti-dumping laws do.

I'm not saying our anti-dumping laws are the be-all end-all, and I know someone is going to mention property rights, but if you dump hazardous material even on your property and that leaches miles down to the aquifers, that taints a water source we can't reinvent.

Like it's been said, there are more important things than jobs...like, say, reasonably clean water to live off of.

exactly, and this is of course assuming, we can live long enough and in the places to utilize the clean water. I appreciate you being able to explain this without using the words "green" "environment".

[Diurdi]

This is why trade barriers are so dangerous. It's none different from getting big government subsidies.

[squarepusher]

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[axiomata]

Good video. It's amazing how our RPF protectionists are blind to the unintended consequences of the interventions they advocate.

[noxagol]

Jobs do not create good economy. Good economy creates jobs.

[Becker]

Good video. It's amazing how our RPF protectionists are blind to the unintended consequences of the interventions they advocate.

I am not blind to it, nor am I against unemployment.

[Becker]

Jobs do not create good economy. Good economy creates jobs.

I would say good economy creates happiness, even if it doesn't create jobs. Being busy and making money beats being poor and starving, but being rich and lazy beats being rich and hard working.

[Wesker1982]

It's amazing how our RPF protectionists are blind to the unintended consequences of the interventions they advocate.

Agreed.

[FlatIron]

Good video. It's amazing how our RPF protectionists are blind to the unintended consequences of the interventions they advocate.

Got proof to back your statement? I am still waiting for someone to answer my post from earlier.

[Fox McCloud]

Got proof to back your statement? I am still waiting for someone to answer my post from earlier.

It's already been covered in the video. Keeping the "jobs in the US" means higher labor costs and higher raw material cost...this means less profits, less R&D, and higher prices for consumers....that means slower innovation and less wealth for the economy on the whole.

They're just taking the "jobs" approach, right now, because most people don't understand the wealth aspect about it.