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mport1
11-10-2011, 11:24 PM
Ron Paul's plan would eliminate 5 departments in the first year. Which ones would you eliminate year one?

Agriculture
Commerce
Defense
Education
Energy
Health and Human Services
Homeland Security
Housing and Urban Development
Interior
Justice
Labor
State
Transportation
Treasury
Veterans Affairs

I vote all of them :)

lx43
11-10-2011, 11:27 PM
All except defense, but I would cut defense by 99%. lol

BattleFlag1776
11-10-2011, 11:29 PM
Are you keeping the EPA? ;)

pcosmar
11-10-2011, 11:46 PM
Most, and might consolidate some.

BuddyRey
11-10-2011, 11:58 PM
Most of the above, plus BATF

mport1
11-11-2011, 12:24 AM
And also, for the ones you would leave, why?

jm1776
11-11-2011, 06:05 AM
I would go last in, first out skipping Veterans Affairs which would be a priority to make functional.

This makes the first year five a great list.

1) Homeland Security
2) Education
3) Energy
4 Transportation
5) Housing and Urban Development

Sola_Fide
11-11-2011, 06:25 AM
Education, commerce, and...and...oops.

cindy25
11-11-2011, 07:17 AM
agencies to go first:
Selective Service
OHSA
EPA
DEA
TSA
FBI

fisharmor
11-11-2011, 07:49 AM
I'd leave state with a budget of $50 million, and defense with a budget of $100 million.
I'd keep a system of ambassadors, but only as many as $50M would get, and they would live only as luxuriously as that would get them. That still works out to a budget of $300k or so per ambassador, doesn't it? Seems plenty to me.
I'd dissolve the national guard system and push states into developing militia, with federal guidance only in how they are armed (not even how they're trained).
I think $100 million is plenty budget for coming up with standards for armament.
I assume transportation is in the poll twice because one is meant to be Treasury - I would keep treasury but again with a fraction of the budget.
I'd direct them to go back to the original method of taxation.

Philhelm
11-11-2011, 07:53 AM
I wouldn't even care to consider which one is first. For me it would be like running around with a morningstar swinging around my head, smacking anything I see. Which ever ones get crushed first, get crushed first.

Matthew5
11-11-2011, 08:48 AM
I would only keep Defense, Justice, VA, and State. I would reduce the Defense budget (no more empire to maintain) and give a temporary increase to VA to deal with all the returning soldiers and to honor the commitments we made for sending off our young people for pointless wars.

ShaneEnochs
11-11-2011, 09:18 AM
ELIMINATE
Agriculture
Commerce
Education
Energy
Health and Human Services
Housing and Urban Development
Interior
Justice
Labor
Transportation

Then I would combine Defense, Homeland Security, State, and Veteran Affairs into one department (probably just call it Defense).

DEPARTMENTS NEEDED
Defense
Treasury

oyarde
11-11-2011, 10:54 AM
Right now , in the poll , the four that have the most votes , would be the same four I thought would have the most votes , for good reason...

Brian4Liberty
11-11-2011, 10:59 AM
Are you keeping the EPA? ;)


Most of the above, plus BATF

Great choice.

Other missing departments: FDA? DEA?

oyarde
11-11-2011, 11:14 AM
Great choice.

Other missing departments: FDA? DEA? atf dea must go !!

CaptainAmerica
11-11-2011, 11:33 AM
FBI,TSA,NSA,BATF need to be cut immediately

LibertasPraesidium
11-11-2011, 12:14 PM
I haven't decided what to leave the Federal Gov't with. Its an internal battle between my anarchist side, and some skewed idea that maybe just maybe government can work and do some good. Just haven't figured out what.

mport1
11-11-2011, 07:29 PM
I haven't decided what to leave the Federal Gov't with. Its an internal battle between my anarchist side, and some skewed idea that maybe just maybe government can work and do some good. Just haven't figured out what.

Go with your anarchist side :)

Cutlerzzz
11-11-2011, 07:34 PM
I think the real question is, why does Transportion have more votes the first time it is listed than the second time?

GeorgiaAvenger
11-11-2011, 07:35 PM
Eliminating Agriculture and Health and Human services quickly would be dangerous IMO. Need to take time to transitition those.

Sola_Fide
11-11-2011, 07:37 PM
Eliminating Agriculture and Health and Human services quickly would be dangerous IMO. Need to take time to transitition those.

Yeah, what would the drug companies and the corporate mega farms do without their subsidies? :)

mport1
11-11-2011, 08:48 PM
I think the real question is, why does Transportion have more votes the first time it is listed than the second time?

Oops...

ryanmkeisling
11-11-2011, 09:24 PM
Great choice.

Other missing departments: FDA? DEA?

Yes these would be some of my main targets along with USDA, with prejudice. They are literally killing us with the food we eat and the drugs we medicate with but also killing the soil we depend on. If free markets existed in these areas we would barely need healthcare, and people would start to eat right again. How is any citizen supposed to have a healthy mind when the food they eat is the product of corporate controlled agricultural practices, and horizontal gene transfer. Being an organic farmer is a real eye opener. 90% of our food is genetically modified which accounts for the rise in killer diseases and chronic conditions. The real kicker is through these very departments the American tax payer pays for his own destruction through the very thing that makes him/her alive and has since before world war 2.

mport1
11-11-2011, 11:43 PM
Only 3 for defense? That would be the very first thing I'd eliminate.