Has Bank Transfer Day Renewed Your Hope in OWS?

[AGRP]

Probably the brightest outcome so far that Ive seen from OWS.

By CANDICE CHOI
NEW YORK (AP) -- It's moving day for bank customers.

A grassroots movement that sprang to life last month is urging bank customers to close their accounts in favor of credit unions by Saturday.

The spirit behind "Bank Transfer Day" caught fire with the Occupy Wall Street protests around the country and had more than 79,000 supporters on its Facebook page as of Friday. The movement has already helped beat back Bank of America's plan to start charging a $5 debit card fee.

It's not clear to what extent the banking industry's about-face on debit card fees will extinguish the anger driving the movement. But many supporters say their actions are about far more than any single complaint.

"It's too little, too late," said Kristen Christian, the 27-year-old Los Angeles small business owner who started "Bank Transfer Day." She already opened accounts at two credit unions in preparation for cutting ties with Bank of America this weekend.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BANK_TRANSFER_DAY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-11-04-19-26-20

[phill4paul]

Americans should move their money once a week. The shifts would cripple them.

[Arklatex]

Already did!

[AbVag]

There's something about the words "credit" and "union" uttered in the same breath that bothers me.

[Miss Annie]

I have no hope in OWS other than to do what the government has created them to do.
The psychology behind OWS is : "government has created the problem ( destroying the economy ), the people scream (OWS - even if initially it was a simulated scream to get the general public on board with the screaming), then the government jumps in and solves the problem with the solution they wanted to implement to begin with (martial law, NWO, etc.... )

[pcosmar]

(martial law, NWO, etc.... )

Martial Law?


I start fightin' a war, I guarantee, you'll see somethin' new.
Malcolm Reynolds

They don't really want to do that.

[Miss Annie]

Yes, Martial law. That is why they ( the groups that are closely associated with the government, yet tied with OWS ) are trying to up the ante by calling for more more militancy. I put up a couple of posts referring to this last night.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=363693

[ryanmkeisling]

I do not understand why some people have such a problem with OWS? It seems pretty straight forward to me. Government and the banks have been in serious collusion for decades,creating bubbles in various sectors and then "taking it to the bank" so to speak. In the end people loose their homes, their financial security, their jobs, their savings, etc. Who cares what ideology motivates any of it, it is completely justified. This society is out of control and if many of these critics were to stop and ask themselves what would our founding fathers do? I do not even have to answer that as any student of history can; the words "tar" and "feather" come to mind, or "ridden out on a rail."

People should be pissed off and in the streets screaming because in modern day America it seems the only concerns for freedom and liberty will come after they are gone. The system is broken and Ron Paul is the only guy to fix it; many people know this. If he does not get the chance to set things right in the next decade all hell is going to break loose here. All anyone need do is look around the world, the US is behind or involved in every modern problem, even if once or twice removed (saddam hussain, we placed in power, molar quadaffi, we placed in power, hosni mubarack, osama bin laden, and on and on.) The CIA has been up to no good since its inception. We have seriously wrecked this planet and there is a price to be paid. The US is leading the charge because its population has failed to reign in its leaders and has allowed, knowingly or not, itself to fall under the control of sociopaths and thieves. It is time to put a stop to this, in any way possible. If you think OWS is bad, wait until large scale inflation, 50% unemployed and a crippled welfare state. Or are we already there? The thing about this transition is it is chronic, and perpetual. Before you know it, your in the throws.

If people think it is petty to be motivated by debit card charges, no jobs, etc. Wait until people start starving and cannot afford basic necessities of life, the USA will be a completely different place.

[Arklatex]

Miss Annie, what if that is the perception they are manufacturing to sway you from joining in? From what I can tell that's the exact opinion being molded by the mainstream media.

The media will demonize any threat to the status quo. (Tea Party, OWS, Ron Paul)

They don't want the people awake and demonstrating because we might realize who really has the power and that Fear is the only tool the dark cabal has.

People standing up for themselves is needed. Tom J said we need constant Revolutions if we are to keep our liberty. Fear keeps us all drones scrapping for a living, always focusing on survival when we can easily live in a different world. The parasites want to keep the general population from realizing this.

I was going to attend an OWS parade this AM but woke too late. =) Join in and educate the cause, we are missing out on a huge energy that are just waiting to be educated about Ron Paul!!!! We need to led!

I think even if us, the Ron Paul movement got Paul the most votes, this system is so controlled and corrupt, he'd still lose! We need to stop playing traditional cookie cutter, status quo politics because that system will not ever allow us. Freedom will never be allowed under the current system, we need major change. We should encourage OWS and capitalize on it! No other candidate has this option but us!!!~! We are not being innovative by trying to be soooo "politically correct". Reach the people, OWS is our chance!!!! Not the mind controlled Fox News crowd!!!

[pcosmar]

The media will demonize any threat to the status quo. (Tea Party, OWS, Ron Paul)



This is the truth. Add the Militia in there as well.
They do everything to divide along "right" and "left".. Black and White. Anything to get people fighting each other rather than focusing on the real enemy.

Some years back the Patriot movement was gaining momentum. It was a mixture of all kinds of folks.
They (TPTB) blew up a Federal Building to stifle that movement. Ran most of them underground, arrested and killed some.
Painted it all as right wing racists, though that was not the case. (only a few were)
They were Survivalists, anti-war folks, Nam Vets... Cold war survivors. Americans.

[John F Kennedy III]

I have no hope in OWS other than to do what the government has created them to do.
The psychology behind OWS is : "government has created the problem ( destroying the economy ), the people scream (OWS - even if initially it was a simulated scream to get the general public on board with the screaming), then the government jumps in and solves the problem with the solution they wanted to implement to begin with (martial law, NWO, etc.... )

The force is strong in this one.

[John F Kennedy III]

Martial Law?


They don't really want to do that.

Most may not. But it is well documented that OWS is being controlled by the global elites. It does and will continue to do their bidding.

[pcosmar]

Most may not. But it is well documented that OWS is being controlled by the global elites. It does and will continue to do their bidding.

Documentation? Post it. I have already posted where this started and who was involved
You are so full of shit it is getting annoying.

You don't even know where the "99%" came from,, who first used and wrote about it or why.

[hazek]

They should've closed their accounts and bought gold if they really wanted to do something meaningful. :rolleyes:

[Gumba of Liberty]

Most may not. But it is well documented that OWS is being controlled by the global elites. It does and will continue to do their bidding.

Well documented where? In the mainstream press? It must be true! :rolleyes: The irony is that YOU are being controlled by the global elites and YOU are continuing to do their bidding by dismissing OWS as some insider plot to confuse the public. Divide and conquer is how the Elites maintain their power, don't allow them to convince you to hate, scorn, and dismiss your fellow well-meaning (economically-illiterate) Americans.

[Miss Annie]

Documentation? Post it. I have already posted where this started and who was involved
You are so full of shit it is getting annoying.

You don't even know where the "99%" came from,, who first used and wrote about it or why.

I will refrain from posting on any further OWS related threads, because after seeing all of the documentation that I will post below, I don't know if it would be possible for me to change my mind on this one. I do know that there are a lot of people suffering from the state of this country, but it is the roots of this movement that I find so deeply disturbing.
Posting links :
http://biggovernment.com/thomasryan/2011/10/14/the-email-archive-of-the-occupywallstreet-movement-anarchists-socialists-jihadists-unions-democrats/

http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/10/26/exclusive-email-from-lisa-fithian-to-occupywallstreet-confirms-acorn-role-in-occupys-next-assault-on-banks/

http://moonbattery.com/?p=4085

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2011/11/meet-the-marxists-behind-the-curtain/

http://biggovernment.com/laborunionreport/2011/11/03/unions-occupywallstreet-reveal-their-hidden-agenda-a-worldwide-financial-tax/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/03/acorn-officials-scramble-firing-workers-and-shredding-documents-after-exposed/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-acorn-organizing-sustaining-planning-occupy-orlando/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/occupy-event-organized-by-aide-to-democratic-deputy-mayor.html

http://biggovernment.com/aandrzejewsk/2011/10/21/lech-walesa-not-attending-occupywallstreet-in-new-york-after-discovering-hard-left-organizers/

http://potterwilliamsreport.com/2011/10/09/capitalism-or-communism-alinsky-rules-occupy-wall-street.aspx

http://angrywhitedude.com/2011/09/are-liberals-plotting-to-disrupt-the-2012-elections/

http://patdollard.com/2011/10/van-jones-promotes-his-occupy-movement-as-only-effective-leftist-answer/

These links are really only the tip of the iceberg and what I could pull out of my hat in short order. There is a ton of documentation out there that is NOT on Main Stream Media.

[PaulConventionWV]

Yes, Martial law. That is why they ( the groups that are closely associated with the government, yet tied with OWS ) are trying to up the ante by calling for more more militancy. I put up a couple of posts referring to this last night.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=363693

I don't think they'll be implementing martial law any time soon. It's better to let the people think they are free and eventually make enough national laws to the point where it is effectively martial law whether or not it is declared.

[Arklatex]

That's all manufactured.

[muh_roads]

If enough of you people start moving your money out of Wells Fargo I'm going to have to follow suit. Eventually the ones that remain will get stuck with new fees again to offset the loss of other customers I'd imagine.

[pcosmar]

I will refrain from posting on any further OWS related threads,
Miss Annie,,before you buy all that please read this. and understand that it was written well over a year ago. (Feb 2010)

The Economic Elite Vs. The People of the United States of America – Part I
http://ampedstatus.com/the-economic-elite-vs-the-people-of-the-united-states-of-america-part-i

[Miss Annie]

Miss Annie,,before you buy all that please read this. and understand that it was written well over a year ago. (Feb 2010)

The Economic Elite Vs. The People of the United States of America – Part I
http://ampedstatus.com/the-economic-elite-vs-the-people-of-the-united-states-of-america-part-i

Absolutely, I will read it! I will try to have an open mind. I do realize that I am very new to the political scene and that the deception is RAMPANT.
Thanks for the reference! :)

[dbill27]

Another thread about the great OWS protestors. While we're at it why don't we start talking about how awesome the madison protestors were again.

[John F Kennedy III]

Documentation? Post it. I have already posted where this started and who was involved
You are so full of shit it is getting annoying.

You don't even know where the "99%" came from,, who first used and wrote about it or why.

Ok I'll bite. Judging by your post we have discussed this before?

And what is your stance on OWS? Do you believe they were a legitimate grassroots movement that was hijacked by the global elite? That it has been controlled by the global elite from the very beginning? Or do you think it is completely untouched by the global elite?

[pcosmar]

Ok I'll bite. Judging by your post we have discussed this before?

And what is your stance on OWS? Do you believe they were a legitimate grassroots movement that was hijacked by the global elite? That it has been controlled by the global elite from the very beginning? Or do you think it is completely untouched by the global elite?

It was (and is) a grass roots movement.
And like every other movement, there is an attempt to steer it and to neuter it.
There are those that want to lay claim to it for political purposes.

There are some that are seeking the leaders so they can either manipulate or eliminate them.
There are a few that claim to be leaders (but are not).


“We are a DECENTRALIZED non-violent movement. If you are looking to contact one of our leaders, go to the nearest mirror and peer deeply into it. It may take some time, but, eventually, one of our leaders will appear with answers to all of your questions.”

TPTB still have trouble dealing with the concept of a leaderless resistance.


“Anything you can do to rebel against the system of economic tyranny in a non-violent manner is welcome.”

http://ampedstatus.org/a-report-from-the-frontlines-the-long-road-to-occupywallstreet-and-the-origins-of-the-99-movement/

[John F Kennedy III]

It was (and is) a grass roots movement.
And like every other movement, there is an attempt to steer it and to neuter it.
There are those that want to lay claim to it for political purposes.

There are some that are seeking the leaders so they can either manipulate or eliminate them.
There are a few that claim to be leaders (but are not).



TPTB still have trouble dealing with the concept of a leaderless resistance.


http://ampedstatus.org/a-report-from-the-frontlines-the-long-road-to-occupywallstreet-and-the-origins-of-the-99-movement/

It seems they have succeeded in taking it over. It's global, which is exactly what the global elite want. The legit grassroots people in it are nothing but useful idiots, which plays into the hands of the globalists. The majority of them are hardcore socialists that hate capitalism. These are not people that should be trusted to give advice on how to fix our problems. Nor can anything good come from this movement even if it had remained untainted.

[pcosmar]

It seems they have succeeded in taking it over. It's global, which is exactly what the global elite want.
DUH !
The same people that OWN the Federal Reserve OWN the IMF and World Bank.
What the fuck do you think this is all about?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=013gL5AMZbE

[pcosmar]

And for more insight to the scope of rebellion,,
Decentralized global rebellion against neoliberal economic policies


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2kiprZTG0g

neoliberal economic policies,,,


Neoliberalism seeks to transfer control of the economy from public to the private sector,[2] under the belief that it will produce a more efficient government and improve the economic health of the nation.[3] The definitive statement of the concrete policies advocated by neoliberalism is often taken to be John Williamson's[4] "Washington Consensus", a list of policy proposals that appeared to have gained consensus approval among the Washington-based international economic organizations (like the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank). Williamson's list included ten points:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

[angelatc]

Probably the brightest outcome so far that Ive seen from OWS.

By CANDICE CHOI
NEW YORK (AP) -- It's moving day for bank customers.

A grassroots movement that sprang to life last month is urging bank customers to close their accounts in favor of credit unions by Saturday.0 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BANK_TRANSFER_DAY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-11-04-19-26-20)

If this is the "brightest" they've got, it explains so much....they seriously had to organize and be told to stop doing business with the people they're protesting? While most of us managed to ditch banks in favor of credit unions 15 years ago.

[angelatc]

Absolutely, I will read it! I will try to have an open mind. I do realize that I am very new to the political scene and that the deception is RAMPANT.
Thanks for the reference! :)

SO that was written a year ago, but OWS is a leaderless, spontaneous organization, that just happened to appear on the TV screens just in time for election season.

Leaderless? Nature abhors a vacuum.

[vita3]

Good move by OWS. The NY FED is 100 yards or so away from Zucooti park, time for Ron Paul supporters finest, to get in it.

[pcosmar]

SO that was written a year ago, but OWS is a leaderless, spontaneous organization,

Ever hear of something called the internet.. Folks here in the US and others from all over the world have been conversing.
It was the Bailouts that really kicked it into gear.

The first protests fizzled,, Too few showed up,, so they reached out for more people. (unfortunately, they got some clueless idiots as well)

[silentshout]

I like the OWS, even if I don't agree with them on everything. I also liked the tea party when it started, even though I didn't agree with everything. Basically, I just love it when Americans protest and stand up for what they believe in.

[speciallyblend]

no bank account to transfer anymore. we showed the banks!!!! or is it they showed me?;) f the banks

[moostraks]

Nor can anything good come from this movement even if it had remained untainted.

While I think they have been infiltrated, why do you think no good could come from the movement even if they remained untainted?