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cindy25
11-04-2011, 08:44 PM
he wasn't there; why does he keep bringing up these issues?

http://conservativebyte.com/2011/11/ron-paul-i-oppose-in-god-we-trust-bill/

123tim
11-05-2011, 03:21 AM
I doubt that he brought it up. He probably was asked the question by some sort of reporter.

In my opinion, any Christian should have voted "No" on this bill because we, as a country, certainly don't trust in God.
Making it our official "National motto" is hypocrisy and will bring us one step closer to our demise.

I don't know what Ron Paul's reasoning was. I'm sure that it had a constitutional aspect to it as well. :)

Philosophy_of_Politics
11-05-2011, 04:21 AM
Those comments make me sick.

juleswin
11-05-2011, 05:26 AM
Those comments make me sick.

Read about 25 of the comments and its seems 50/50 to me. Also the headline is misleading abit

cindy25
11-05-2011, 05:42 AM
the only problem is these votes are meaningless, and using political capital on these (this, the Rosa Parks issue last time) is a waste.

not that Ron is wrong, but it has no upside, and will cost votes. and winning is everything.

No Free Beer
11-05-2011, 06:36 AM
the only problem is these votes are meaningless, and using political capital on these (this, the Rosa Parks issue last time) is a waste.

not that Ron is wrong, but it has no upside, and will cost votes. and winning is everything.

Winning is not everything. This wouldn't make Ron any different from the others. It's about ideas.

LauraB
11-05-2011, 07:36 AM
Pretty sure the Constitution never granted authority to congress to designate/create a "national motto". I find the bill laughable, just a bunch of politicians pandering.....I am not surprised one bit Dr Paul was against this bill and I am proud of his consistency to follow the constitution even when it may not be "convenient" for him.

LisaNY
11-05-2011, 07:39 AM
Pretty sure the Constitution never granted authority to congress to designate/create a "national motto". I find the bill laughable, just a bunch of politicians pandering.....I am not surprised one bit Dr Paul was against this bill and I am proud of his consistency to follow the constitution even when it may not be "convenient" for him.

Agreed, it's just silly.

COpatriot
11-05-2011, 08:13 AM
Food for Ron. But of course the American Taliban will chastise him even over something as minor as this.

Created4
11-05-2011, 09:57 AM
“I would have voted ‘no’ not because I don’t like the motto and don’t think we can use it but ‘no’ because we were telling the states what to do,” Paul told The Hill."

Does anyone have the full context here? How did this bill "tell the states what to do?" That seems to be the principle he is standing upon.

Ronulus
11-05-2011, 11:45 AM
Why are my comments being deleted? They were not offensive at all, yet all are gone.

Ekrub
11-05-2011, 11:53 AM
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.” - Sinclair Lewis

kind of relevant here.

Zippyjuan
11-05-2011, 02:38 PM
"In God We Trust" seems like it may violate the First Amendment.
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am1.html

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Which god (or gods) should we trust in? Allah? Yaweh? Jesus? Zeus? Oden? The Buddah? Adi Shakti?

Rothbardian Girl
11-05-2011, 02:53 PM
"In God We Trust" seems like it may violate the First Amendment.
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am1.html


Which god (or gods) should we trust in? Allah? Yaweh? Jesus? Zeus? Oden? The Buddah? Adi Shakti?
I don't really see how it violates the First Amendment, since it's technically not a law. I mean, I haven't looked at the text of the bill itself, but to me if it has no enforcement provisions, I don't really see how it could be a law. I agree that Ron Paul was correct in not voting for this measure, because it's probably meant to distract, and because it really is meaningless, considering the only god we are meant to worship nowadays is the state.

PaulConventionWV
11-05-2011, 03:05 PM
the only problem is these votes are meaningless, and using political capital on these (this, the Rosa Parks issue last time) is a waste.

not that Ron is wrong, but it has no upside, and will cost votes. and winning is everything.

I don't think winning is everything. If Ron is asked a question, it is his duty to be a good statesman and stick to his principles. That's what's important, not necessarily playing politics to win votes.

sirgonzo420
11-05-2011, 05:26 PM
"In God We Trust" seems like it may violate the First Amendment.
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am1.html


Which god (or gods) should we trust in? Allah? Yaweh? Jesus? Zeus? Oden? The Buddah? Adi Shakti?

Aquabuddha

ONUV
11-05-2011, 09:50 PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2802805/posts

some disgusting comments. when/how did conservatism get so far off track?