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Frank DeMartini
11-04-2011, 12:01 PM
Here is an article I wrote today regarding the Obama Administration's out and out attack on Freedom of Religion. It is becoming more apparent that he wants to turn this country into a secular state.



http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/?p=11812



Thoughts?

JoshLowry
11-04-2011, 12:21 PM
Government shouldn't have anything to do with your church's marriage customs.

Protect the rights of the individual and you've just gone and protected everyone.

You're trying to get the government to define your church definitions, or did I read it wrong? We should let your church speak on it's own accord.

No government policy or law makers should try and define it. Neither Holder or Huckabee.

How many times has the definition changed of liberal, conservative, or libertarian in day to day conversations over the last 50 years?


I accept the restrictions set forth by the Supreme Court because they are logical.

What? :p


Speak to people who lived in communist countries. Speak to people who remember the cold war. Let’s now allow it to sneak in here under any guise and especially not by taking away our freedom to express our religious thought however we may see fit.

You may and should express your religious liberty as you see fit.

The minute you encroach on another man or woman's sphere of liberty, you've gone from supporter of liberty to something else...

Go bigger tent!

Frank DeMartini
11-04-2011, 12:34 PM
The Supreme Court restrictions that I accept are: pornorgraphy, hate speech and speech intended to incite a riot. To me those are the only valid exceptions on Free Speech and they are logical.

Other than that, I agree with you comments.

pcosmar
11-04-2011, 12:48 PM
The Supreme Court restrictions that I accept are: pornorgraphy, hate speech and speech intended to incite a riot. To me those are the only valid exceptions on Free Speech and they are logical.

Other than that, I agree with you comments.

Pornography? Folks have been arrested for family baby pictures or breastfeeding. Others have been arrested for drawings.
Define Pornography.
Hate speech?? what is that? I hate several things. Is speaking against Authoritarianism hate speech if I really hate it.
Define "hate speech".
Speech intended to start a riot??
What if telling the truth results in a riot?
What if exposing serious corruption, Theft and fraud cause people to become angry enough to act.

A Right is just that.

LibertyEagle
11-04-2011, 01:04 PM
The Supreme Court restrictions that I accept are: pornorgraphy, hate speech and speech intended to incite a riot. To me those are the only valid exceptions on Free Speech and they are logical.

Other than that, I agree with you comments.

What pcosmar said on hate speech. The 1st amendment was written to protect unpopular speech. If it was something everyone agreed with, there would be no need for it to be protected by an amendment. Don't you see that putting such vices on speech can easily be used to shut down discussion of anything that the people in power, or special interests, don't want you talking about? It's a very dangerous bridge to cross.

Why do you want the federal government to define pornography? If you simply must have some kind of ordinance against call girls walking the streets in your neighborhood, wouldn't it be better to do that with a local ordinance?

Our founders wanted the vast majority of all laws to be at the local or state level. The further our government is from us, the less control we have over it.

Kylie
11-04-2011, 01:45 PM
There should be no entanglement of the churches and the government.

No taxes. No funding. Nothing.

If this were the way it is(like it was intended), then you would have a government that had no way to influence the churches. And your churches could speak about anything they wanted at any time, like it should be. You should be able to preach about your beliefs even if those are political. You speaking in God's house, and he is the one who gave you your rights, correct?

Who the hell is some bureaucrat to take them away?