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Anti Federalist
11-04-2011, 12:28 AM
No policy was broken.

What started the whole deadly chain of events that led to Officer Friendly and his buddies showing up?


The uniformed officers were responding to an emergency call about a man wielding a gun in the garden of a property in Long Beach, California.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338571/Douglas-Zerby-shot-dead-police-holding-GARDEN-HOSE-nozzle-gun-chief-admits.html#ixzz1ciP28Auq


Some asshole neighbor spots a guy with a black hose nozzle that they think is a gun, freaks the fuck out and gets this man killed.



DA clears Long Beach officers in killing of unarmed man

http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/11/03/29706/da-clears-long-beach-officers-killing-unarmed-man/

Los Angeles District Attorney Steve Cooley on Thursday cleared two Long Beach Police officers who shot and killed a man holding a garden hose nozzle last December. Cooley's office called it a "tragic mistake."

The report by Cooley's office said the officers “reasonably believed” that Douglas Zerby was armed with a handgun. The report called it a lawful shooting by officers who thought their lives were in danger.

The DA for the first time names the officers who killed Zerby: Officer Jeffrey Shurtleff, a six-year member of the Long Beach Police Department, and Officer Victor Ortiz, a 10-year veteran.

On the afternoon of Dec. 12, 2010, Long Beach cops responded to reports of a man with a gun. They snuck up on Zerby, 35, who had been drinking and was actually holding a garden hose nozzle while sitting on a friend’s back porch steps.

"Shurtleff believed that Zerby was waiting for someone to enter the courtyard in order to ambush him. Shurtleff watched as Zerby extended his arm and pointed the firearm south toward the location where Ortiz was positioned inside the front house," the DA's report states.

Shurtleff opened fire.

"Believing that Zerby was shooting at him, Ortiz fired his shotgun at Zerby," the report said.

Zerby, a Long Beach native and father of an eight-year-old son, was pronounced dead at the scene. His family has called the killing an "assassination."

“I’ve heard a lot of people saying that he was an alcoholic, just a dumb drunk who deserved to die," said Heather Woodland, Zerby's younger sister, shortly after her brother's death. "To those people I want to say shame on you."

Woodland said her brother was a good man who suffered from alcoholism.

"But that is no excuse to shoot and kill him when he hasn’t broken a law and done anything wrong,” she said.

Zerby apparently never knew the officers were watching him. They never identified themselves as they approached. Police said they wanted to "secure the location" before giving verbal commands to Zerby.

Long Beach Police Chief Jim McDonnell joined the DA in clearing his officers.

McDonnell "found the actions of both officers to be within department policy and consistent with departmental guidelines." A statement from the Long Beach Police Department said the reviews by the chief and DA concludes a "lengthy and arduous investigation of this incident."

Czolgosz
11-04-2011, 12:42 AM
So I wonder which hose nozzle scared these heros into shooting this guy?

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/327820954_1/Metal_Pistol_Trigger_Hose_Nozzle.jpg
http://www.asia.ru/images/target/photo/51625873/Spray_Gun__Hose_Nozzle_.jpg
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/327820954_4/Metal_Pistol_Trigger_Hose_Nozzle.jpg


I'd love to see the evidence. Hell, it wasn't even at night ("On the afternoon of Dec. 12, 2010...").

Anti Federalist
11-04-2011, 12:50 AM
So I wonder which hose nozzle scared these heros into shooting this guy?
I'd love to see the evidence. Hell, it wasn't even at night ("On the afternoon of Dec. 12, 2010...").

Here it is:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/14/article-1338571-0C796984000005DC-694_306x423.jpg

Vessol
11-04-2011, 12:55 AM
Here it is:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/14/article-1338571-0C796984000005DC-694_306x423.jpg

Well I can kinda understand their reasoning, I mean if you look at it for only a moment it kinda looks like a gun.

/cop apologetic

Czolgosz
11-04-2011, 01:20 AM
Here it is:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/14/article-1338571-0C796984000005DC-694_306x423.jpg

Interesting hose nozzle. lol

I'll still side w/ the murder victim in this case. Even if it were a real gun I'd expect the cops to approach w/ caution (using available cover), identify themselves, and open dialogue.

CaptainAmerica
11-04-2011, 02:38 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4248678243_523e3e44db.jpg
To think that when I was a kid I use to play with toy ray guns and I had a mac-10 replica(it had an orange tip but still looked real and was a water gun toy.Cops are so stupid ,all they ever think with is their gun.

asurfaholic
11-04-2011, 04:15 AM
Police cant yell "Drop the weapon" from behind cover?

Thats how i was trained.. we were told and taught very strictly that someone holding a weapon doesnt violate any laws unless it points at someone.

We were also taught to only shoot if we feared for our lives. If you are behind cover and have a tactical advantage on somebody, then there should be no fear. The report says the officers snuck up... these cops are murderers and the dpt and da just joined the "responsible" party

Dark_Horse_Rider
11-04-2011, 04:51 AM
Police cant yell "Drop the weapon" from behind cover?

Thats how i was trained.. we were told and taught very strictly that someone holding a weapon doesnt violate any laws unless it points at someone.

We were also taught to only shoot if we feared for our lives. If you are behind cover and have a tactical advantage on somebody, then there should be no fear. The report says the officers snuck up... these cops are murderers and the dpt and da just joined the "responsible" party

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