NY - Cops shoot dog scaring trick or treaters.

[Anti Federalist]

Greece police shoot dog scaring kids

Posted at: 10/31/2011 9:43 PM | Updated at: 10/31/2011 9:48 PM

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S2352653.shtml?cat=566

Greece police say an officer had to fatally shoot a dog that was scaring trick-or-treaters on Monday night.

Police say they were called to a home on Kinmount Drive, off of Latta Road, around 6:30 p.m. for reports of a large rottweiler scaring children that were out trick-or-treating.

According to a statement issued by the department, an officer arrived on scene and asked for animal control to also report to the scene. A second Greece officer arrived at the home as a neighbor was escorting kids away from the dog. They say the dog then charged at the second officer. The officer shot the dog and the dog was pronounced dead at the scene.

Greece police say a preliminary investigation shows that the officer's actions were justified. The owner of the dog was out of town and unavailable. The Greece Police Department says it is not identifying the officer involved.

[Krugerrand]

This dog would have been toast:

http://p.twimg.com/Ac--MzjCAAIpbEw.jpg:large

[aGameOfThrones]

This dog would have been toast:

Agree with you, I do.

http://www.disneycostumeideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/star-wars-yoda-dog-costume.jpg

[flightlesskiwi]

Agree with you, I do.



This dog would have been toast:

i see your dogs and raise you:

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/flightlesskiwi/hatehalloween.jpg

about the article:

all i can say is, thank goodness no kids were harmed (not talking about the dog doing the harming).

[AGRP]

The dog was loose and "chasing" children before it "charged" the cop. Technically, the shooting is justified.

[CaptainAmerica]

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/article-1181557-04EE9709000005DC-37_634x546.jpg
Dogs....so easy to tame and control that even an ape can tame a dog. Cops are idiots.

[Czolgosz]

lmfao! As much as I'm against doing that to dogs (not cats, I dislike them), couldn't help but rofl at those picz.

[Anti Federalist]

The dog was loose and "chasing" children before it "charged" the cop. Technically, the shooting is justified.

You're right, if those terms are correct as used.

As always, I question that.

But this is not one of the more egregious cases.

[green73]

The dog was loose and "chasing" children before it "charged" the cop. Technically, the shooting is justified.

Of course. Contempt of cop shouldn't just be lethal for humans.

[tfurrh]

My wife dressed up our dog. I kinda liked it.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6303725132_9f9fb95f6a.jpg

[tfurrh]

Further findings from the Greece Police dept show that the dog killed was actually a Jack Russell dressed in a Rottweiler costume.

[green73]

lmfao! As much as I'm against doing that to dogs (not cats, I dislike them), couldn't help but rofl at those picz.

By all means, kill the cats...kill them all. What shall we kill next that you dislike?

[CaptainAmerica]

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/HU020878.jpg?size=67&uid=dca22e25-da7f-421f-96a7-9b437e5f61df
monkey walking a dog twice his size.that monkeys got some cajones

[AGRP]

Of course. Contempt of cop shouldn't just be lethal for humans.

If the dog really was going after children and really did charge at the cop its completely justified. I should have the right to kill an aggressive dog if it was charging towards me just as the cop should. If theres any complaint from me its that a private citizen should have done it without having to call the cops.

[Anti Federalist]

My wife dressed up our dog. I kinda liked it.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6213/6303725132_9f9fb95f6a.jpg

Why does it look like he did not?

LoL

[fisharmor]

The dog was loose and "chasing" children before it "charged" the cop. Technically, the shooting is justified.

Oh, absolutely.
Why, the article lists the names and ages of no fewer than fourteen children that the dog had already mauled in its path of destruction.
And if it had gotten loose before, man, that's like fourteen children with facial scars for every time.
It's about damned time someone did something! Thank the state-god we have people whose job it is to protect us.
I hear tell that the dog was also single-handedly responsible for global warming and wanted to force grocery stores only to carry New Coke.

[green73]

If the dog really was going after children and really did charge at the cop its completely justified. I should have the right to kill an aggressive dog if it was charging towards me just as the cop should. If theres any complaint from me its that a private citizen should have done it without having to call the cops.

There used to be a time when they would use a snare or even biscuits. But they are too stupid and lazy now. And love to kill things.

[Anti Federalist]

If the dog really was going after children and really did charge at the cop its completely justified. I should have the right to kill an aggressive dog if it was charging towards me just as the cop should. If theres any complaint from me its that a private citizen should have done it without having to call the cops.

That's where I have a real problem with some of these stories.

There are aggressive dogs that will attack.

But let you go and shoot one to prevent such an attack, and woe betide you, Mundane.

You're going to jail.

[green73]

Americans should really learn to teach their dogs to kneel down and lick the boots of people in government-issued costumes. Then they would never get shot.

[tfurrh]

Further findings from the Greece Police dept show that the dog killed was actually a Jack Russell in a Rottweiler costume.

Nobody.........?

[Acala]

He was just trying to help scare the kids. It was Halloween! Jeez, lighten up. Having costumed government employees fanning out through the neighborhoods blasting animals to death adds to the ambiance. You WANTED scary!

[Acala]

Nobody.........?

Very funny.

[Anti Federalist]

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/24/14/enhanced-buzz-11142-1287944643-4.jpg

[pcosmar]

Maksimchuk said, "The neighbors know that dog was the nicest dog. The reason it was running from group to group is because he wanted to meet everybody. It was really a nice dog. It's a big dog. I could see why he (the officer) got scared but it was a nice dog. It wouldn't hurt him."

No one at all was bitten. But the dog was shot because people (and the Cop) can not tell the difference between friendly and aggressive.

:(

[Acala]

No one at all was bitten. But the dog was shot because people (and the Cop) can not tell the difference between friendly and aggressive.

:(

I have this problem with women. But I don't shoot them.

[kylejack]

Guy leaves his dog in the front yard unattended while he is out of town? Hm, something missing here...

[Czolgosz]

By all means, kill the cats...kill them all. What shall we kill next that you dislike?

'tard.

[pcosmar]

Guy leaves his dog in the front yard unattended while he is out of town? Hm, something missing here...
Read the story.
Was chained in the backyard,, but apparently got loose.


"I saw a lot of cop cars outside and I heard a shot. I heard the dog yell, whine, and then I heard two more shots and then it was dead quiet," said Dennis Maksimchuk, the brother of the dog's owner who was out of town. Maksimchuk said he ran outside and a neighbor told him police shot their dog.

"And then I heard her say they shot Puma. That's the dog's name, Puma. It's a 100-pound Rottweiler. So I went to the backyard and she's not connected to the chain."

[realtonygoodwin]

Just going on the facts we have available, this shooting appears to be justified.

[pcosmar]

Just going on the facts we have available, this shooting appears to be justified.

How?

I have owned a 109 lb female Rottweiler. Very friendly dog, loved kids and cats.
Would have hated to see her shot for being friendly by some dumb fuck that did not know the difference between a friendly dog and a threat. She wasn't loose often,, but it happens.

[green73]

'tard.

Next you want to kill all the mentally disabled? I'm not sure what you're getting at.

[Icymudpuppy]

I live in a rural area where there are deer, cattle, sheep, goats, domestic rabbits, and chickens that do sometimes get attacked and killed by dogs running loose. There is an unspoken rule that if a farmer doesn't know whose dog it is, since we all know our neighbors at least within a 4 mile radius, that that dog's life is forfeit if it exhibits any predatory behavior such as growls, snarls, raised hackles, perked ears, bared teeth, squinted eyes, flattened tail, crouched posture, etc. Those of us who have dogs around here make an effort to keep them on our property, and also make sure to introduce him to our neighbors so that they will recognize him if he wanders over. If my dog gets caught threatening anybody else's livestock, pets, or children, I will shoot him myself because he has been trained, and knows better. Inability to control primal urges should be fatal for both dogs and humans.

[Invi]

It'd be nice if now and then they would at least TRY to get the dog without killing it.
I'm still clinging to that one story of a cop rescuing a dog from a river in hopes that one day we'll see more of that and less of this.
Perhaps they should just dispatch K9 handlers to these calls so they're sending someone who might actually have some clue as to how to deal with a large dog.

edit:
Perked ears? Seriously? Perked ears are a sign of interest, not aggression.
I sure hope you're talking about combinations of behavior because if someone shot my dog for perking her ears, I'd lose it.
If she's got her hair on end, tail up or level, and is showing her teeth, that's something different altogether, but usually aggressive dogs pull their ears back.

[Czolgosz]

Next you want to kill all the mentally disabled? I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Oh, dry humor. Thought you were one of the pucker butts. :D

[pcosmar]

I live in a rural area where there are deer, cattle, sheep, goats, domestic rabbits, and chickens that do sometimes get attacked and killed by dogs running loose. There is an unspoken rule that if a farmer doesn't know whose dog it is, since we all know our neighbors at least within a 4 mile radius, that that dog's life is forfeit if it exhibits any predatory behavior such as growls, snarls, raised hackles, perked ears, bared teeth, squinted eyes, flattened tail, crouched posture, etc. Those of us who have dogs around here make an effort to keep them on our property, and also make sure to introduce him to our neighbors so that they will recognize him if he wanders over. If my dog gets caught threatening anybody else's livestock, pets, or children, I will shoot him myself because he has been trained, and knows better. Inability to control primal urges should be fatal for both dogs and humans.

Yes, but you and likely your neighbors know the difference between "growls, snarls, raised hackles, perked ears, bared teeth, squinted eyes, flattened tail, crouched posture, etc." and a wagging tail and playful pounces.

I can tell the difference in a dog running at me and judge its intentions. And though a small man can still catch an aggressive dog midair and down it. Without a gun.

[Acala]

Big dogs are dangerous predators. Period. A particular dog may have a histroy of being peaceful most of the time. Still potentially dangerous and strangers don't know its history or habits. Still capable of inflicting serious injury or even death with little warning. Tens of thousands of people are mauled by dogs each year badly enough to need reconstructive surgery. Many of them are children bitten in the face. It takes two seconds and the kid is scarred for life.

If you own a big dog and it gets loose and it gets killed, it is YOUR fault. If you don't like the responsibility, don't keep a dangerous animal.

[pcosmar]

If you own a big dog and it gets loose and it gets killed, it is YOUR fault. If you don't like the responsibility, don't keep a dangerous animal.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5348979307_a3fede6983_z.jpg

This is my buddy. She will be three in January.
She does not wear a collar and is not contained.
Harm her and you WILL meet the vicious animal in this house.

http://jamadots.com/~pcosmar/photos/photogallery/18-begger_jpg.jpeg

Now these two are the aggressive ones.

[Acala]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5348979307_a3fede6983_z.jpg

This is my buddy. She will be three in January.
She does not wear a collar and is not contained.
Harm her and you WILL meet the vicious animal in this house.

I stand by what I said regardless of your silly internet bravado. If you own an animal capable of doing serious physical injury to another human being and YOU let it loose off your property out of your control and it gets killed, it is YOUR fault. You may wish to avoid that responsibility, as people often wish to avoid taking responsibility for their actions, but you will be wrong.

[flightlesskiwi]

Big dogs are dangerous predators. Period. A particular dog may have a histroy of being peaceful most of the time. Still potentially dangerous and strangers don't know its history or habits. Still capable of inflicting serious injury or even death with little warning. Tens of thousands of people are mauled by dogs each year badly enough to need reconstructive surgery. Many of them are children bitten in the face. It takes two seconds and the kid is scarred for life.

If you own a big dog and it gets loose and it gets killed, it is YOUR fault. If you don't like the responsibility, don't keep a dangerous animal.

curious: why only "big dogs"? and what do you consider "big"?

[pcosmar]

I stand by what I said regardless of your silly internet bravado. If you own an animal capable of doing serious physical injury to another human being and YOU let it loose off your property out of your control and it gets killed, it is YOUR fault. You may wish to avoid that responsibility, as people often wish to avoid taking responsibility for their actions, but you will be wrong.

My neighbors know my dogs. And I have chased the stepdaughter's boyfriend's dog through my neighbors cattle. He got a good laugh out of it.
it finally took one of the cows taking him on a run to get it out of his system. he just wanted someone to run with him.
A Husky/Greyhound mix. That dog loved to run.

Large dogs are quite common around here. And people talk across fence-lines.

[Acala]

curious: why only "big dogs"? and what do you consider "big"?

You are correct that people should control their animals, period.

An unknown dog big enough to do serious injury to a child's face with a bite is a big enough threat that having it shot when running loose should not come as a surprise.

[Acala]

My neighbors know my dogs. And I have chased the stepdaughter's boyfriend's dog through my neighbors cattle. He got a good laugh out of it.
it finally took one of the cows taking him on a run to get it out of his system. he just wanted someone to run with him.
A Husky/Greyhound mix. That dog loved to run.

Large dogs are quite common around here. And people talk across fence-lines.

That's good. I like dogs and get along with most. I would probably have one if I didn't have to be away from home all day. And I would be pretty pissed if someone messed with him.

[pcosmar]

And to think. A bunch of us kids used to runaround for miles with a 210 lb St Bernard, a Wolf mix, a Samoyed, and a Collie all unrestrained.
Visited a neighbor that had 21 hunting dogs, (all loose) and nobody even thought about shooting any. Though everyone had guns then.

[kylejack]

I'm going to give the dog the benefit of the doubt, as I'd rather be stuck in a room with a Rottweiler than a vicious animal such as a police officer.

[pcosmar]

That's good. I like dogs and get along with most. I would probably have one if I didn't have to be away from home all day. And I would be pretty pissed if someone messed with him.

This is yet another reason that I hate cities, and made the choice to live far from any.

I spent too many years dealing with asshole neighbors. this sounds like another case of that.

[flightlesskiwi]

You are correct that people should control their animals, period.

An unknown dog big enough to do serious injury to a child's face with a bite is a big enough threat that having it shot when running loose should not come as a surprise.

it's hard to shoot a chihuahua and not hit my kids. and chihuahua's can invoke a nasty bite. i'm quite certain that a chihuahua could inflict a lot of damage on my child.

along those lines, i would say any dog is capable of harming a person. while perhaps small dogs do not have as much lethal potential as a large dog, the potential for harm is there. and it is my opinion that aggressive behavior in small dogs is often times overlooked because of their size. which, imho, is absolutely ridiculous.

i am less apt to look at the breed and size and more the temperament and behavior of a dog-- and its owner.

because of my experiences in life, i am much more leery and guarded around small dogs (less than 65 pounds-- especially in the 3 to 15 pound range) than i am large (65+ pounds).

[phill4paul]

In late on this post. Much of everything has been said so all I can do is add my 2 cents..
A man is responsible for his weapons. A +100# canine is a weapon. I wouldn't hand over a side-arm to someone that didn't know better any more so than than I'd let a +100# run unrestrained except by his own convictions.
That said I do see where in some of these instances it is individuals fear fullness that causes over reaction.
In the end we are responsible for our canines actions.
In a drug raid are they gonna shoot the dog? Damn straight they are. So just go ahead and figure that will be the reaction wherever the encounter takes place.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm hijacking my thread, I know, but this was just too classic:

Antoine Dogson

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/24/13/enhanced-buzz-11142-1287941808-0.jpg

In case anybody doesn't know...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520

[phill4paul]

I'm hijacking my thread, I know, but this was just too classic:

Antoine Dogson

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/24/13/enhanced-buzz-11142-1287941808-0.jpg

In case anybody doesn't know...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNhaLUT520

LOL!

[flightlesskiwi]

I'm hijacking my thread, I know, but this was just too classic:

Antoine Dogson

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/10/24/13/enhanced-buzz-11142-1287941808-0.jpg

In case anybody doesn't know...



hijacked (better video)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw

[Anti Federalist]

hijacked (better video)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw

I just watched that.

Now every pop star of the last ten years now suddenly makes sense.

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg5SwyTvAHw&feature=related

[CaptainAmerica]

http://www.cesarsway.com/images/about/approach2.jpg
would the cops shoot caesar milan and his dog pack if they saw him walking by?

[phill4paul]

http://www.cesarsway.com/images/about/approach2.jpg
would the cops shoot caesar milan and his dog pack if they saw him walking by?

I dunno about the dogs but I'd put 3 rounds in that Transformer in the middle. WTF? The man has wheels for feet. I'm bugging out! I AM BUGGING OUT!.

Edit reason: OK whew. Seems with a bit of googling those a roller blady-thingies.

[flightlesskiwi]

http://www.cesarsway.com/images/about/approach2.jpg
would the cops shoot caesar milan and his dog pack if they saw him walking by?

my guesssssssssssss issssssssssssssssss yes. that's why he relocated his dog psychology center to the county.

[flightlesskiwi]

did you just discover schmoyoho???!!!! did i help in that discovery?!!??!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg5SwyTvAHw&feature=related

[Brian4Liberty]

They say the dog then charged at the second officer.

Apparently this is the new catch-word that allows you to shoot a dog. The dog charged. We all know how unusual that is. Usually dogs run and dash, but if they charge, then you know you can shoot! "Look out Ned, he's charging right for us!"

[GeorgiaAvenger]

That officer had no right to shoot an attacking dog! DOWN WITH THE STATE!

lmao

[Anti Federalist]

Apparently this is the new catch-word that allows you to shoot a dog. The dog charged. We all know how unusual that is. Usually dogs run and dash, but if they charge, then you know you can shoot! "Look out Ned, he's charging right for us!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgF-KAxbTmE

[Anti Federalist]

did you just discover schmoyoho???!!!! did i help in that discovery?!!??!!

Is that another word for AutoTune?

LoL

[heavenlyboy34]

"Police called for animal control hoping to capture the dog as a neighbor was trying to protect the kids." Somehow, I doubt it. The story doesn't say whether or not the telephone records verify this story.

[fisharmor]

That's good. I like dogs and get along with most. I would probably have one if I didn't have to be away from home all day. And I would be pretty pissed if someone messed with him.

Well I fuckin' hate dogs and I'm never going to own one, and I think you're wrong.
I have a three-year-old daughter who doesn't talk, likes to bite and scratch (draws blood), and can let herself out of the house.
Nice to know that if she wanders over into the neighbors' yard and takes a swipe at them, they can call the cops and have a new hole drilled in her skull, and you'd apparently be OK with it.

[pcosmar]

Just before this thread my wife was showing me a pic (on FaceBook) of a dog dragged behind a car.
It sickened me. I went looking for the story online, and Googled ,, many stories and not for the faint.

Before that I was watching a video of a Navy veteran facing the police while standing in tear gas. He was holding a Pocket Constitution high.
before that I was watching police provocateurs initiating violence.

It fucking puts me in a "mood".
:(

[PreDeadMan]

This is the one Halloween costume everyone is afraid of ....
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBIIk789inApTRn4DJkYfEq78fzHdyX qrI3rRa6cFYHbTkIBYSHA

[SL89]

Just before this thread my wife was showing me a pic (on FaceBook) of a dog dragged behind a car.
It sickened me. I went looking for the story online, and Googled ,, many stories and not for the faint.

Before that I was watching a video of a Navy veteran facing the police while standing in tear gas. He was holding a Pocket Constitution high.
before that I was watching police provocateurs initiating violence.

It fucking puts me in a "mood".
:(

I am with ya. +rep

[SL89]

Just a question after a quick run through.....Did the "perp" actually leave the front yard?? If a neighbor had to go to the back yard to confirm the dog was off his chain?? If the Dog was still on his owners property than.....:rolleyes: Oh yeah, big dogs don't = dangerous, dumbest thing I have heard.

[Anti Federalist]

This is the one Halloween costume everyone is afraid of ....
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBIIk789inApTRn4DJkYfEq78fzHdyX qrI3rRa6cFYHbTkIBYSHA

Let's make that more realistic:

http://ww2.esn.net/sheriff/gifs/swat1.jpg

[Acala]

Well I fuckin' hate dogs and I'm never going to own one, and I think you're wrong.
I have a three-year-old daughter who doesn't talk, likes to bite and scratch (draws blood), and can let herself out of the house.
Nice to know that if she wanders over into the neighbors' yard and takes a swipe at them, they can call the cops and have a new hole drilled in her skull, and you'd apparently be OK with it.

Wow. Really? You are equating dogs and humans? Dogs are property. They have no rights. Dog OWNERS are legally and morally responsible for their property and for any damage they cause. Keep your dog on your own property and you will have no problem with me. Your dog comes onto MY property and we have a problem. Is there something about property rights you don't understand?

Oh, and if your toddler can escape from your house, don't complain if she gets hit by a car. You are being irresponsible.

[Krugerrand]

That officer had no right to shoot an attacking dog! DOWN WITH THE STATE!

lmao

I'm fine with an officer shooting an attacking dog. I object to reality becoming whatever the officer says - even when the facts of a case do not support that reality.


Here's what came to mind first:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2moov7k.jpg