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FrankRep
10-30-2011, 03:32 PM
Top 10 Reasons Occupy Wall Street Is a Joke (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47187)


Human Events
Oct 29, 2011


The Left was envious when Tea Party protests popped up in 2009, and now has countered with the Occupy Wall Street gathering in New York that has spread to other cities. While Tea Party enthusiasm became an effective force during the 2010 elections, #OWS will not have the same impact and here is why: The Top 10 Reasons Occupy Wall Street is a Joke.

1. Agenda: Unlike the clarity of the Tea Party message of smaller government, the Wall Street Occupiers have a potpourri of juvenile demands, from free college education and an annual living wage to “forgiveness of debt on the entire planet.” One protester mused that the solution was to do away with money altogether. Apparently these recipients of federal student loans have yet to take Economics 101.

2. Celebrities: The usual suspects of empty-headed progressive Hollywood stars are showing up at the Wall Street rally, many arriving by limo. Millionaires Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr have all made appearances. Kanye West wore gold jewelry worth more than many protesters have made in their lifetimes. If they hadn’t noticed, these stars are part of the 1%.

3. Soros: The roster of George Soros-funded entities are aiding and abetting the Occupy movement. AdBusters, an anti-consumerist publication that sounded the initial call for the protests, is funded in part by Tides, a major recipient of Soros’ funding. Another Soros venture—MoveOn.org—has rallied support for the initiative. Soros, a billionaire several times over largely through currency manipulation, says he “sympathizes with their grievances” of those protesting corporate greed.

4. Arrests: Unlike the Tea Party rallies, there have been numerous arrests at the Occupy protests, as the crowds ignore city ordinances about overnight camping on public property. Nearly a thousand were arrested in New York for blocking the Brooklyn Bridge, snarling traffic for those who work for a living, and hundreds have been taken into custody in Chicago, Boston and other cities.

5. Politics: Democrats from President Obama on down are trying to find common ground with the Occupy Wall Streeters, hoping the protests can be the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party and breathe some life into a moribund progressive movement. The hypocrisy is ripe—the President has garnered more corporate donations than any politician in the nation’s history.

6. Unpatriotic: OWS protests routinely view the United States as the enemy. The American flag is trashed, desecrated and flown upside down. A Coast Guard female officer in uniform was harassed and spit on near the Boston rally. In Portland, Ore., a speaker said, “F**k America.” The protesters would like nothing better than to see the decline of their country.

7. Extremists: It is no small feat to be praised by both the American Nazi Party and the Communist Party USA. From aging hippies who are trying to relive the glory of the Sixties to the younger anarchists who have nothing better to do, many of the OWS protesters are extremists who show up at every left-wing demonstration.

8. Trash: After Tea Party rallies, the grounds were generally swept clean of garbage by the protesters, leaving the areas cleaner than before they arrived. In contrast, at OWS protests, piles of trash are mounting, creating a public health hazard. And after several weeks, many in the crowd are in dire need of a shower.

9. Anti-Semitic: While the mainstream media pushed a fictitious story line that the Tea Party was a cauldron of racism, the OWS rallies feature plenty of examples of outright anti-Semitism. The rallies are marrying the anti-Zionist tirades of the Left with the stereotypical view of Jewish Wall Street bankers to create an ugly atmosphere.

10. Signs: The Tea Party rallies were always full of clever signs, poking fun at Big Government and Barack Obama, and honoring the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. By contrast, the Occupy Wall Street signs are characterized by misspelled words, profanity and inane statements such as, “One day the poor will have nothing left to eat but the rich.”


SOURCE:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47187

AGRP
10-30-2011, 04:23 PM
9. Anti-Semitic: While the mainstream media pushed a fictitious story line that the Tea Party was a cauldron of racism, the OWS rallies feature plenty of examples of outright anti-Semitism. The rallies are marrying the anti-Zionist tirades of the Left with the stereotypical view of Jewish Wall Street bankers to create an ugly atmosphere.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-GVXunrbE4

Johnny Appleseed
10-30-2011, 04:33 PM
I wonder what % of people that are against OWS own stocks? I am not an OWSer but I always question motives of all sides.

KAYA
10-30-2011, 08:04 PM
I wonder what % of people that are against OWS own stocks? I am not an OWSer but I always question motives of all sides.

Umm, that's ridiculous. I guess anyone with a retirement plan is disqualified from being critical of OWS?

NewRightLibertarian
10-30-2011, 08:14 PM
I wanted to support these guys, but it's becoming more and more clear that they're an unruly mob who want free money. Some of them have legitimate concerns but I suggest everyone here focuses their time on the GOP and getting Ron Paul elected.

Johnny Appleseed
10-30-2011, 08:23 PM
Umm, no anyone with a retirement plan would be expected to be critical of OWS as $ is a very motivating factor.

I know my ego makes it hard to be objective about my own motives. So natural I must question others

GuerrillaXXI
10-30-2011, 08:54 PM
I'm far from being in complete agreement with the OWS movement, but this top 10 list is tripe:


1. Agenda: Unlike the clarity of the Tea Party message of smaller government, the Wall Street Occupiers have a potpourri of juvenile demands, from free college education and an annual living wage to “forgiveness of debt on the entire planet.” One protester mused that the solution was to do away with money altogether. Apparently these recipients of federal student loans have yet to take Economics 101.Sounds like someone's been cherry-picking. We might as well judge the Tea Party movement by these people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y

(Best part: the talk about "czars" after 5:37. LMFAO!)

Anyway, a fairer assessment of the true demands of the OWS movement is as follows:


As critics have noted, the protesters are not in complete agreement with each other, but the overall message is reasonably coherent. They want more and better jobs, more equal distribution of income, less profit (or no profit) for banks, lower compensation for bankers, and more strictures on banks with regard to negotiating consumer services such as mortgages and debit cards. They also want to reduce the influence that corporations—financial firms in particular—wield in politics, and they want a more populist set of government priorities: bailouts for student debtors and mortgage holders, not just for banks.http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/occupy-wall-street-its-not-a-hippie-thing-10272011.html


2. Celebrities: The usual suspects of empty-headed progressive Hollywood stars are showing up at the Wall Street rally, many arriving by limo. Millionaires Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr have all made appearances. Kanye West wore gold jewelry worth more than many protesters have made in their lifetimes. If they hadn’t noticed, these stars are part of the 1%.This is a silly criticism. So what if celebrities express sympathy for a movement? And why can't rich people express support for those who aren't rich?


3. Soros: The roster of George Soros-funded entities are aiding and abetting the Occupy movement. AdBusters, an anti-consumerist publication that sounded the initial call for the protests, is funded in part by Tides, a major recipient of Soros’ funding. Another Soros venture—MoveOn.org—has rallied support for the initiative. Soros, a billionaire several times over largely through currency manipulation, says he “sympathizes with their grievances” of those protesting corporate greed.Again, so what if Soros wants to aid and support the movement? Even if one dislikes Soros, this is an attempt to find guilt by association. It's kind of like the way a lot of Ron Paul's critics accuse him of being a racist because some racists support him.


4. Arrests: Unlike the Tea Party rallies, there have been numerous arrests at the Occupy protests, as the crowds ignore city ordinances about overnight camping on public property. Nearly a thousand were arrested in New York for blocking the Brooklyn Bridge, snarling traffic for those who work for a living, and hundreds have been taken into custody in Chicago, Boston and other cities.This is not a criticism of the OWS agenda.


5. Politics: Democrats from President Obama on down are trying to find common ground with the Occupy Wall Streeters, hoping the protests can be the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party and breathe some life into a moribund progressive movement. The hypocrisy is ripe—the President has garnered more corporate donations than any politician in the nation’s history.This is a criticism of those Democrats in particular, not the OWS movement. It's not their fault if someone seeks to ride on the coattails of their movement.


6. Unpatriotic: OWS protests routinely view the United States as the enemy. The American flag is trashed, desecrated and flown upside down. A Coast Guard female officer in uniform was harassed and spit on near the Boston rally. In Portland, Ore., a speaker said, “F**k America.” The protesters would like nothing better than to see the decline of their country.Obviously they don't believe the population of the US is the enemy, since they believe they are speaking on behalf of 99% of it. More likely they view the government and Wall Street as the enemy.

While it's wrong to spit on people, there's nothing special about a uniform or anyone who's chosen to serve this corrupt government. And who gives a fuck about a flag? Trash as many flags as you want; just quit trashing the Bill of Rights.


7. Extremists: It is no small feat to be praised by both the American Nazi Party and the Communist Party USA. From aging hippies who are trying to relive the glory of the Sixties to the younger anarchists who have nothing better to do, many of the OWS protesters are extremists who show up at every left-wing demonstration.There's nothing inherently wrong with extremism.


8. Trash: After Tea Party rallies, the grounds were generally swept clean of garbage by the protesters, leaving the areas cleaner than before they arrived. In contrast, at OWS protests, piles of trash are mounting, creating a public health hazard. And after several weeks, many in the crowd are in dire need of a shower.My heart bleeds.


9. Anti-Semitic: While the mainstream media pushed a fictitious story line that the Tea Party was a cauldron of racism, the OWS rallies feature plenty of examples of outright anti-Semitism. The rallies are marrying the anti-Zionist tirades of the Left with the stereotypical view of Jewish Wall Street bankers to create an ugly atmosphere.The video AGRP posted above answers this nicely. Also, the immense power of the Israel lobby and Zionist-Jewish money in US politics isn't exactly a secret to anyone who hasn't been living under a rock. Some Zionist Jews even brag about it:

"AIPAC has recently stated the need for a strategy to combat anti-Israel sentiments on U.S. university campuses.

"How are we going to beat back the anti-Israel divestment resolution at Berkeley?" said Jonathan Kessler, leadership development director for AIPAC, at a recent conference of the lobbying group. "We're going to make sure that pro-Israel students take over the student government and reverse the vote. This is how AIPAC operates in our nation's capitol. This is how AIPAC must operate on our nation's campuses."

http://archive.dailycal.org/article/109056/international_attention_focused_on_asuc_divestment

When non-Jews point out the very same thing that the AIPAC staffer pointed out above, they are accused of anti-Semitism. Go figure.


10. Signs: The Tea Party rallies were always full of clever signs, poking fun at Big Government and Barack Obama, and honoring the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. By contrast, the Occupy Wall Street signs are characterized by misspelled words, profanity and inane statements such as, “One day the poor will have nothing left to eat but the rich.”Yes, the Tea Party signs were brilliant:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-tea-party-signs.htm

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg

zade
10-30-2011, 10:01 PM
someone do a top ten reasons why frankrep is a joke

NewRightLibertarian
10-30-2011, 10:01 PM
someone do a top ten reasons why frankrep is a joke

Go right ahead.


Sounds like someone's been cherry-picking. We might as well judge the Tea Party movement by these people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y

(Best part: the talk about "czars" after 5:37. LMFAO!)


I agree that you can cherry pick anyone who is an idiot from any type of mass movement. But turnabout is fair play. The right is getting their shots in after the incredibly unfair demonization of the tea party, and what's coming out of 'Occupy' is MUCH worse than what happened at any tea party.



Anyway, a fairer assessment of the true demands of the OWS movement is as follows:

As critics have noted, the protesters are not in complete agreement with each other, but the overall message is reasonably coherent. They want more and better jobs, more equal distribution of income, less profit (or no profit) for banks, lower compensation for bankers, and more strictures on banks with regard to negotiating consumer services such as mortgages and debit cards. They also want to reduce the influence that corporations—financial firms in particular—wield in politics, and they want a more populist set of government priorities: bailouts for student debtors and mortgage holders, not just for banks.

The fairest assessment I can come up with is 'they want free shit.' I strongly disagree that the message coming out of occupy is coherent. And you realize they want the government to stay big to enforce their 'reforms' and hand them their piece of the pie.


Again, so what if Soros wants to aid and support the movement? Even if one dislikes Soros, this is an attempt to find guilt by association. It's kind of like the way a lot of Ron Paul's critics accuse him of being a racist because some racists support him.

I think that it's very telling that Soros, Obama, Buffet and Bernanke have all come out in support of the movement or at the least are expressing sympathy with it. It shows what forces are working to co-opt this mob of useful idiots.


Obviously they don't believe the population of the US is the enemy, since they believe they are speaking on behalf of 99% of it. More likely they view the government and Wall Street as the enemy.

Wall Street, not the government, is who they blame. I can't say I blame them for the anti-USA sentiment considering the atrocities the government takes place in around the globe. But they should blame the Federal Government, not Wall Street (which was created by, is subsidized, fostered and bailed out by the Federal Government)


Yes, the Tea Party signs were brilliant:

Many of them were. I was given a whole book of the best ones at CPAC last year. Good stuff. I agree with you on the rest of what you were saying. If these 'occupy' protests spread to the Federal Reserve and Federal Government they might be of some use but the powers that be are working hard to make sure that doesn't happen. I don't have high hopes for this movement other than it instigating full on martial law or allowing the government to stage another power grab.

VoluntaryAmerican
10-30-2011, 10:31 PM
Top 10 Reasons Occupy Wall Street Is a Joke (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47187)


Human Events
Oct 29, 2011


The Left was envious when Tea Party protests popped up in 2009, and now has countered with the Occupy Wall Street gathering in New York that has spread to other cities. While Tea Party enthusiasm became an effective force during the 2010 elections, #OWS will not have the same impact and here is why: The Top 10 Reasons Occupy Wall Street is a Joke.

1. Agenda: Unlike the clarity of the Tea Party message of smaller government, the Wall Street Occupiers have a potpourri of juvenile demands, from free college education and an annual living wage to “forgiveness of debt on the entire planet.” One protester mused that the solution was to do away with money altogether. Apparently these recipients of federal student loans have yet to take Economics 101.

2. Celebrities: The usual suspects of empty-headed progressive Hollywood stars are showing up at the Wall Street rally, many arriving by limo. Millionaires Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr have all made appearances. Kanye West wore gold jewelry worth more than many protesters have made in their lifetimes. If they hadn’t noticed, these stars are part of the 1%.

3. Soros: The roster of George Soros-funded entities are aiding and abetting the Occupy movement. AdBusters, an anti-consumerist publication that sounded the initial call for the protests, is funded in part by Tides, a major recipient of Soros’ funding. Another Soros venture—MoveOn.org—has rallied support for the initiative. Soros, a billionaire several times over largely through currency manipulation, says he “sympathizes with their grievances” of those protesting corporate greed.

4. Arrests: Unlike the Tea Party rallies, there have been numerous arrests at the Occupy protests, as the crowds ignore city ordinances about overnight camping on public property. Nearly a thousand were arrested in New York for blocking the Brooklyn Bridge, snarling traffic for those who work for a living, and hundreds have been taken into custody in Chicago, Boston and other cities.

5. Politics: Democrats from President Obama on down are trying to find common ground with the Occupy Wall Streeters, hoping the protests can be the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party and breathe some life into a moribund progressive movement. The hypocrisy is ripe—the President has garnered more corporate donations than any politician in the nation’s history.

6. Unpatriotic: OWS protests routinely view the United States as the enemy. The American flag is trashed, desecrated and flown upside down. A Coast Guard female officer in uniform was harassed and spit on near the Boston rally. In Portland, Ore., a speaker said, “F**k America.” The protesters would like nothing better than to see the decline of their country.

7. Extremists: It is no small feat to be praised by both the American Nazi Party and the Communist Party USA. From aging hippies who are trying to relive the glory of the Sixties to the younger anarchists who have nothing better to do, many of the OWS protesters are extremists who show up at every left-wing demonstration.

8. Trash: After Tea Party rallies, the grounds were generally swept clean of garbage by the protesters, leaving the areas cleaner than before they arrived. In contrast, at OWS protests, piles of trash are mounting, creating a public health hazard. And after several weeks, many in the crowd are in dire need of a shower.

9. Anti-Semitic: While the mainstream media pushed a fictitious story line that the Tea Party was a cauldron of racism, the OWS rallies feature plenty of examples of outright anti-Semitism. The rallies are marrying the anti-Zionist tirades of the Left with the stereotypical view of Jewish Wall Street bankers to create an ugly atmosphere.

10. Signs: The Tea Party rallies were always full of clever signs, poking fun at Big Government and Barack Obama, and honoring the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. By contrast, the Occupy Wall Street signs are characterized by misspelled words, profanity and inane statements such as, “One day the poor will have nothing left to eat but the rich.”


SOURCE:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47187

This is a very biased take,

if Ron Paul were here I'm sure he would say there needs to be coalition building between the Tea Party and OWS.

And that's what we should do.

Sola_Fide
10-30-2011, 10:33 PM
someone do a top ten reasons why frankrep is a joke

Why the personal insult?

FrankRep
10-30-2011, 10:34 PM
if Ron Paul were here I'm sure he would say there needs to be coalition building between the Tea Party and OWS.

That's a stupid move to make.